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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭brianblaze


    recipio wrote: »
    I would imagine you could use pressure treated softwood for that. If you can't find 4x4 just glue up whatever you have to get the final dimensions. Not forgetting to use a waterproof glue. ;)

    Would something like this do, or would it not be as strong as the Douglas Fir? (It's a deck post)

    https://mccarthystramore.ie/product/4x4-treated-deck-post-2-4m/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    brianblaze wrote: »
    Would something like this do, or would it not be as strong as the Douglas Fir? (It's a deck post)

    https://mccarthystramore.ie/product/4x4-treated-deck-post-2-4m/

    That looks ideal. It will have plenty of structural strength.The manufactures of pressure treated wood have eliminated the nasty chemicals they used to use so the stuff is now safe for human contact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭brianblaze


    recipio wrote: »
    That looks ideal. It will have plenty of structural strength.The manufactures of pressure treated wood have eliminated the nasty chemicals they used to use so the stuff is now safe for human contact.

    Cheers!! Much appreciated


  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭jamesbil


    Anyone out there got a contact for Paulownia?

    Or be interest in sharing shipping from Spain?


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jamesbil wrote: »
    Anyone out there got a contact for Paulownia?

    Or be interest in sharing shipping from Spain?

    I wouldn’t set fire to it for some heat even if my fingers were about to fall off.

    A hateful wood if you’ve any intention of using finer hand joinery techniques or having it stand up to any wear and tear or knocks/bumps at all.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭jamesbil


    JayZeus wrote: »
    I wouldn’t set fire to it for some heat even if my fingers were about to fall off.

    A hateful wood if you’ve any intention of using finer hand joinery techniques or having it stand up to any wear and tear or knocks/bumps at all.

    Ha, is it that bad to work with? was thinking of using it for wooden built paddle board. Might go red cedar instead.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Very interesting details of Paulownia here,

    https://www.wood-database.com/paulownia/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭dendof


    Would anyone know where to get replacement slats in Ireland for garden bench?
    This kit is exactly what I'm looking for:
    https://www.arbc.co.uk/standard-bench-kit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    dendof wrote: »
    Would anyone know where to get replacement slats in Ireland for garden bench?
    This kit is exactly what I'm looking for:
    https://www.arbc.co.uk/standard-bench-kit

    That's one inch Iroko planed and bullnosed. I would think your best bet is to contact a joinery works ( the smaller the better ) and ask them to mill them for you.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dendof wrote: »
    Would anyone know where to get replacement slats in Ireland for garden bench?
    This kit is exactly what I'm looking for:
    https://www.arbc.co.uk/standard-bench-kit

    Itp.ie might be worth a look if I remember correctly a mate got rough larch from them when restoring some garden benches at a reasonable price. But at the time he was able to go to the yard and pick out what he wanted and take it in his van.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Planning to build a pergola over paving at home. Would anyone recommend a good timber to use? Something like larch or cedar?

    Also, for the corner posts they will need to be about 10’ tall and as thick as I can get. What’s the chances of getting posts 4x4 or bigger? Any good places to try?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Where are u based:
    at 10 feet you could double/treble 6 by 2.
    At 10 feet, wind loading needs to be considered, whats the ground fixing?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Where are u based:
    at 10 feet you could double/treble 6 by 2.
    At 10 feet, wind loading needs to be considered, whats the ground fixing?

    Halfway between Kilkenny and Portlaoise.
    Had thought about laminating the 6x2. Is there any challenge laminating something that will be exposed to the elements for years?

    Planning to anchor bolt a steel bracket into a concrete base at each corner. Is more than this needed?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    bamayang wrote: »
    Planning to build a pergola over paving at home. Would anyone recommend a good timber to use? Something like larch or cedar?

    Also, for the corner posts they will need to be about 10’ tall and as thick as I can get. What’s the chances of getting posts 4x4 or bigger? Any good places to try?

    Why do the corners have to be 10' high.

    And if you are laminating multiples of 6x2 , you need to have

    proper connection methods employed, ie. bolt sizing, additional metal plates possibly.

    And ground connection needs to be appropriate to anchor the building.

    And if its near a neighbours property, are you entering into an engineers domain at all ???

    Needs to be asked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    brianblaze wrote: »
    Would something like this do, or would it not be as strong as the Douglas Fir? (It's a deck post)

    https://mccarthystramore.ie/product/4x4-treated-deck-post-2-4m/

    Just one source. I'm sure they are available in the bigger garden centres. Laminating never looks quite as good as solid timber.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭timfromtang


    bamayang wrote: »
    Planning to build a pergola over paving at home. Would anyone recommend a good timber to use? Something like larch or cedar?

    Also, for the corner posts they will need to be about 10’ tall and as thick as I can get. What’s the chances of getting posts 4x4 or bigger? Any good places to try?




    Greetings bamayang,
    I've a sawmill and larch in suitable sizes for your project, I will cut to order, you supply the cutting list, I'll fell suitable larch trees from my forest and cut it for you. I charge €13 per cu ft or €460 per m³ just figure the volume of timber you need and you can figure your price.
    pm me if you are interested, I am located in the midlands about 19km north of Athlone.
    all the best
    tim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭timfromtang


    recipio wrote: »
    Just one source. I'm sure they are available in the bigger garden centres. Laminating never looks quite as good as solid timber.


    https://mccarthystramore.ie/product/4x4-treated-deck-post-2-4m/

    These are expensive €550 m³ for pressure treated timber is a bit of a sting.
    tim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Guru Maith Agut


    Lads I'm looking for 6 sheets of 8x4 birch plywood. I had used Brooks (online) for an order in the past few weeks but I found they were an absolute SHAM of a company! I ordered some decking boards and was left short 1 board. Not a big deal if I hadn't measured exactly and needed 15 boards instead of the delivered quantity of 14. :rolleyes:

    Long story short, I got absolutely NO joy out of the manager of their online department until I rattled off the same email day after day for a week and gave them a ****ty review on their Google business page. That woke somebody up! :D
    I then got a call from another chap who couldn't apologise enough and said he'd get me the missing board out early next week that they were out of stock and he couldn't understand where the breakdown in communication had happened. Fair enough I said, I just wanted a call to tell me that rather than me having to chase them as I had done for over a week.
    Lo and behold, they have now blocked my online account it would seem. I got some shpiel about them starting a "new website" and I may have to register again, but the original URL hasn't changed from the one the previous week so.. :eek::eek:

    So they can go fcuk themselves now, I'll shop elsewhere.



    Sooooo, where do you get your birch ply the cheapest please, lads and ladies? I had got some from Ray Grahams (up north) last year but I'd prefer to buy south if at all possible.

    TIA ;)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    he'd get me the missing board out early next week that they were out of stock
    i think i have a suspicion why you didn't get your 15 boards.

    did you pay by credit card? one option may be to dispute the transaction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Guru Maith Agut


    i think i have a suspicion why you didn't get your 15 boards.

    did you pay by credit card? one option may be to dispute the transaction.

    Yes I paid by card. But its not the missing board was the problem. It was the fact that not one human being could call me back to tell me this lightbulb event. I had to do all the chasing after the initial call I made telling a manager that, on the day it was all delivered while the driver was still there to concur.

    Common business courtesy like :mad:

    I'm a bit beyond disputing the transaction at this stage tbh. Their loss, not mine as I order a lot of wood online.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭glynf


    Guru Maith Agut, where are you based?



    FWIW, I have bought a decent amount of 18mm Baltic Birch form Wood Industries in Rathdrum, Wicklow as well as from Woodworkers in Terenure-both great to deal with. I'm sure they would carry a decent stock. I also found Strahan's in Rathcoole carry some nice wood-again bound to have stock & helpful staff.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 14,320 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Master


    glynf wrote: »
    I also found Strahan's in Rathcoole carry some nice wood-again bound to have stock & helpful staff.

    +1 for Strahan
    I'm a guitar maker and buy all of my wood from them
    Great service, communication and quick delivery times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Guru Maith Agut


    glynf wrote: »
    Guru Maith Agut, where are you based?


    All the way northwest in soggy Cyavan.

    I'll check out those two options. Thanks Glyn


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,181 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    bamayang wrote: »
    Planning to build a pergola over paving at home. Would anyone recommend a good timber to use? Something like larch or cedar?
    hijacking this question, sent to me by a friend; this is in her parents garden, the tiles are cedar and she was wondering was there any maintenance which might be suggested? i told her not to apply any finish to the tiles.

    516305.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭jamesbil


    hijacking this question, sent to me by a friend; this is in her parents garden, the tiles are cedar and she was wondering was there any maintenance which might be suggested? i told her not to apply any finish to the tiles.

    516305.jpg

    Biocidal wash, NOT bleach or hypo. Will kill any moss, algae, fungus etc, gradually come back to weathered wood colour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭Murt102


    Can anyone recommend somewhere in Ireland that does nice garden fencing / “contemporary” garden fences. Most garden centers I’ve been to only have the rough shiplap fencing. Looking for something like the following;

    home-design.jpg

    contemporary-garden-fencing-ideas-1-3390.jpg


  • Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Those sort of fences are bespoke, you won't pick them up in a garden centre.

    Need to hire a landscaper or a carpenter that does fencing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    awec wrote: »
    Those sort of fences are bespoke, you won't pick them up in a garden centre.

    Need to hire a landscaper or a carpenter that does fencing.

    That makes it sound beyond a mere mortals reach. It's just timber pinned to batons on a wall. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭headtheball14


    Clone sawmills have a contemporary vogue fence on website, similar


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Greetings bamayang,
    I've a sawmill and larch in suitable sizes for your project, I will cut to order, you supply the cutting list, I'll fell suitable larch trees from my forest and cut it for you. I charge €13 per cu ft or €460 per m³ just figure the volume of timber you need and you can figure your price.
    pm me if you are interested, I am located in the midlands about 19km north of Athlone.
    all the best
    tim

    Would this be planed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Would this be planed?

    I would not thing so and whats more it will be unseasoned if he is cutting it fresh from his forest

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭timfromtang


    not planed and fresh sawn.
    tim


  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭Aodhan5000


    Best place to buy sheets of plywood? Located in South West of the country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭dnme


    Hi all.

    Can anyone advise me where to source planed oak boards in the Limerick Clare area. I've been in to McMahons and found the experience very intimidating. I felt like a nuisance. All the timber was rough sawn so you could not see the grain and it was nearly all stacked and strapped.

    I want to build a headboard, see rough sketch attached. The sizes are still approximate so I can tolerate variances on widths and thicknesses but would like to stay as close as possible to the plan.

    I think I'd like Oak for the surround, main styles and rails but maybe you'd use something better / cheaper / etc. Any advice greatly appreciated.

    521430.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    I dunno about dimensional stuff, but https://www.instagram.com/irishhardwoods/ might be of interest, it's a tad north in Galway but that's not that far and he seems to be aiming at a smaller scale market than McMahons would be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Im looking to make a kitchen table hopefully out of a single slab of wood from a tree with a nice grain, approx 1m wide by 2m long and a few inches thick. Is that something that sawmills do or is it more a tree surgeon that I need to find? Have tried Clonee sawmills but its not something they carry.

    Also in terms of the grain is it potluck on what trees they are cutting or is this something they might have in stock where you have a choice of a few options? Have no ideas what way tree surgeons or sawmills work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    Willie Crowley in Quin Co Clare has started trading again and you will not meet a nicer man to do business with.Check out his website. However all the timber merchants will only sell undimensioned timber. If you are going to stay with the hobby why not spend a few hundred on a secondhand planer thicknesser.?
    The headboard is fine but do you not have a lot of timber under the mattress level which will never be seen ? -and the mitred wrap around seems a bit superfluous :D Just sayin'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭dnme


    recipio wrote: »
    Willie Crowley in Quin Co Clare has started trading again and you will not meet a nicer man to do business with.Check out his website. However all the timber merchants will only sell undimensioned timber. If you are going to stay with the hobby why not spend a few hundred on a secondhand planer thicknesser.?
    The headboard is fine but do you not have a lot of timber under the mattress level which will never be seen ? -and the mitred wrap around seems a bit superfluous :D Just sayin'

    Many thanks and I take your point about timber below mattress level. I was going to use cheaper t+g here but your right, I might MDF it. The surround adds depth and leaves me with a working cavity into which I will install lighting, just cant really be seen in that drawing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Im looking to make a kitchen table hopefully out of a single slab of wood from a tree with a nice grain, approx 1m wide by 2m long and a few inches thick. Is that something that sawmills do or is it more a tree surgeon that I need to find? Have tried Clonee sawmills but its not something they carry.

    Also in terms of the grain is it potluck on what trees they are cutting or is this something they might have in stock where you have a choice of a few options? Have no ideas what way tree surgeons or sawmills work.

    Try Kiln Dried Hardwoods, Kilruddery Bray, they may have something to suit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭recipio


    dnme wrote: »
    Many thanks and I take your point about timber below mattress level. I was going to use cheaper t+g here but your right, I might MDF it. The surround adds depth and leaves me with a working cavity into which I will install lighting, just cant really be seen in that drawing.

    Fair enough. I've made a few beds and the k/d fittings to keep the thing together are crucial. You can buy clip on systems but they are useless - the bed will rack and squeak. The best fittings I've found are metal dowels about 30mm long in the horizontals with bolts joining them through the vertical posts if that makes sense.All available online.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Im looking to make a kitchen table hopefully out of a single slab of wood from a tree with a nice grain, approx 1m wide by 2m long and a few inches thick. Is that something that sawmills do or is it more a tree surgeon that I need to find? Have tried Clonee sawmills but its not something they carry.

    Also in terms of the grain is it potluck on what trees they are cutting or is this something they might have in stock where you have a choice of a few options? Have no ideas what way tree surgeons or sawmills work.

    You'll do well to get a slab that size let alone afford to be picky on the grain. A specialist saw mill would be the one you're looking for. There's one down the road from me I'm dropping over during the week I'll see what they have. It won't be cheap though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭chillyspoon


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Im looking to make a kitchen table hopefully out of a single slab of wood from a tree with a nice grain, approx 1m wide by 2m long and a few inches thick. Is that something that sawmills do or is it more a tree surgeon that I need to find? Have tried Clonee sawmills but its not something they carry.
    Try Kiln Dried Hardwoods, Kilruddery Bray, they may have something to suit

    +1, KDH should be able to sort you out - here's Neil from KDH with a nice beech log about to go through the mill, he's sound to deal with but brace yourself for the cost of a slab of that scale, it won't be cheap:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CCt7n-in1_v/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Thanks tabby will check them out. I also came across Pat Staunton Sawmills in Glenealy,Co.Wicklow and spoke to him as he deals a lot in hardwoods. Said he has a Californian sequoia redwood in the sawmill at the moment so going to head down to see it when he gets back from holidays in a couple of weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    You'll do well to get a slab that size let alone afford to be picky on the grain. A specialist saw mill would be the one you're looking for. There's one down the road from me I'm dropping over during the week I'll see what they have. It won't be cheap though

    re: the grain, yeah thats what I was afraid of in that you just have to take what you can get but as its intended as a kitchen table for the next few decades Id like something I really like so maybe this venture is trickier than I thought. Still though I can only visit some sawmills and see what is available. .Regarding price Pat Staunton said about 500 euro for a 3ft by 9ft untreated piece of his sequioa so definitely not cheap. But if it was something that has a beautiful grain then I would stretch to it. Im hoping to end up with a table I love and will keep for life so its worth paying for.

    Ive come across websites in the UK that sell exactly what Im after but would prefer try to source locally if I can. Shipping would also be a hassle too so I will stick local if I can.

    Would appreciate it if you could take a look in your local sawmill and report back if anything suitable is available. Im not necessarly stuck on hardwoods either, would consider anything that looks nice and could be sanded and polished up good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Pat Staunton was the first person I bought timber from, over 20 years ago, Beech, quarter sawn Oak and a few planks of Walnut, I still have the Walnut , they haven't told me what they want to be yet, he has a great understanding of how to cut logs to get the best out of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    If you buy a fresh sawn plank from a sawmill, it could take a few years to season and stabilise, before you could use it indoors, KDH in Kilruddery will have dried timber, though 2 inch may be the thickest they have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Guru Maith Agut


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    ...Im not necessarly stuck on hardwoods either, would consider anything that looks nice and could be sanded and polished up good.

    Honestly, I wouldn't even consider a "softwood" for a project like a kitchen table. You will never keep it in good condition regardless of how much varnish you use. It will mark badly over time and although some say it "adds character", if you want it to last a long time, it will be in bits with general day to day use.

    Why not go with a slightly thinner piece and beef up all around it using the same type of wood, giving it the appearance of being really thick? At least that way it'll cut down on weight and cost.

    Worth considering maybe..?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭chillyspoon


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Thanks tabby will check them out. I also came across Pat Staunton Sawmills in Glenealy,Co.Wicklow and spoke to him as he deals a lot in hardwoods. Said he has a Californian sequoia redwood in the sawmill at the moment so going to head down to see it when he gets back from holidays in a couple of weeks.

    Wow; bizarre coincidence - I was looking at some sequoia turning blanks that came from Pat's mill just last weekend, except they've been "seasoning" (gathering dust) since 2008 in a friend's workshop!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    Am reading here with envy (rage actually!) at all these suppliers, AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE COUNTRY TO ME :mad:

    Rant over!

    Came across this video of Surry Timber, might be just as well its in another country, or I'd be bankrupt!

    Its a real pity there's no such like place here (or if there is, I don't know about it).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Surrey would have a large chunk of my pay if they were too close :D
    But that Irish hardwoods crowd are in Galway Mick, that shouldn't be too far from you surely?

    Also, if you think Surrey are bad, try these lads: http://www.feinesholz.de/
    Or https://shop.exotichardwoods.co.uk/

    :D


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