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05-03-2012, 21:12   #1
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Carto tanks

I've been trying various different devices with varying degrees of success, and mostly I have been pretty happy with them for the simple fact that they weren't cartos. But last week I got stuck and had to go back to one for a few hours, and I actually quite liked it. Then today the imist and stardust just really weren't satisfying me, so I went back to the cart (a smoktech LR DCC), and I'm really really liking it. So I'm thinking that I may have come a full circle and be back to using cartos again But I want to avoid the problems I had with them before, the main one being that I always overfilled them leading to tons of leakage out the bottom.

So long story short, I want to try a carto tank and have a few questions if anyone has any experience of them
  • The chibi and the mini-sub seem to be best with not much to choose between them, any recommendations here? (are either available this side of the atlantic?)
  • People seem to use them with Boge 3.0 ohm cartos, but I'm not sure I want a VV mod yet, will they work ok with an eGo battery, or if not would a Boge 2.0 ohm work well?
  • Do they leak out the bottom of the carto (onto the battery connector etc)


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I've had the chibi for about 3-4 months now
it's nice and most importantly cheap. 8 dollars for the tank + 1 carto
you have to fill with a syringe, and you can't change cartos until the tank is empty as it's a pain in the sack to unseat one grommet without also unseating the other.
you can just stick a syringe in to suck up any juice thats left in, change the carto and then refill with the syringe. not a huge deal, just not exactly something you can do on the go

they dont really leak unless the pressure is all ****ed up, if you get leaking or a bit of gurgling cos of a flooded carto.. just stick a syringe in between the grommet and the tank wall and let some air escape. once the pressure is equalised, the leaking/flooding will stop. a knife/scissors/whatever will do.. all you have to do is break the seal of the grommett and let some air escape.. or in.. i dont really understand that. saying that, I think my chibi has only leaked once since I got them and I fixed it in 2 seconds by letting some air out.

youll probably have a little bit of hassle getting it all set up the first time, but once you figure out the best way to do it.. (i put both grommets on either end of the carto and then gently but firmly push the carto into the tank) it hardly takes any time or effort.

the mini sub is meant to be similar (dont have one, but want one) except instead of having to equalise the pressure by lifting the grommett it has a little screw on the side which you just screw out and pull out to let the air escape, fixing your gurgling/flooding issues if they arise. good idea, you also fill through that hole iirc so a blunt needle capped bottle will do.

my main problem with carto tanks is flavour. you can get alternating great flavourful hits and sort of muted hits. I think it's to do with the way that only some of the carto gets soaked in the liquid as opposed to just filling a carto normally, where more of the filler is soaked? I dont really know, just some times and some juices the carto tank isn't as good an experience as a plain carto.. although it is a fair bit handier cos yhou're not faffing about refilling it every half hour. although maybe it's because keeping the bottom of the carto sitting in the liquid kinda wears it out a little quicker, so that while it still performs the oomph of the flavour isn't there any more. *shrug* ease of use and lack of hassle versus slightly better flavour sometimes, personal preference really

parkesvaping sell the chibi and also sell boge 2ohms, i dont know if momandpopvaporshop also sell boge 2ohms for the mini su, never ordered from them. parkes charge 5dollars for delivery and it generally takes a week or just under, so pretty reasonable.
oh and the boge 2ohms that thebestshop sell wont fit either of them, asa they are the XXL boge's. obviously if you're buying some that aren't from parkes of momandpop's get stainless so you dont have to peel that black ****e off.

actually.. maybe the boges that TBS have would work with the larger of the sub tanks that momandpops have.. the dual coil one. they seem to be sort of kinda similar in size to dual coils.


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oh, momandpops do have boge 2ohms. the mini sub holds slightly less juice than the chibi though. chibi holds i think around 3ml + whatever a filled carto will hold. mini sub holds 3ml including the filled carto

the submarine tank from momandpops might be good for you, it has 1.7ohm "ressurector" which i think is just a dual coil.. not sure

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Excellent, thanks for the detailed post. They both look really good. I think I'd lean more towards ones that would fit the boges, so if I do go VV (the lavatube is looking more and more tempting) then I can carry on with those. I thought shipping would be much more, that seems really reasonable.
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i just did up a fake little order on momandpops, shipping for 2 minisubs and 2 15ml bottles of juice came to 8 dollars. so parkes is a little cheaper over all. and i think they're 50-90 cent cheaper for the replacement cartos.

so chibi.. just about as good, but a fair bit cheaper
mini sub.. havent used it, but seems to be quite a bit easier to fill and solve any flooding/leaking issues although like i said above, they're pretty rare with the chibis
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I've been trying various different devices with varying degrees of success, and mostly I have been pretty happy with them for the simple fact that they weren't cartos. But last week I got stuck and had to go back to one for a few hours, and I actually quite liked it. Then today the imist and stardust just really weren't satisfying me, so I went back to the cart (a smoktech LR DCC), and I'm really really liking it. So I'm thinking that I may have come a full circle and be back to using cartos again But I want to avoid the problems I had with them before, the main one being that I always overfilled them leading to tons of leakage out the bottom.

So long story short, I want to try a carto tank and have a few questions if anyone has any experience of them
  • The chibi and the mini-sub seem to be best with not much to choose between them, any recommendations here? (are either available this side of the atlantic?)
  • People seem to use them with Boge 3.0 ohm cartos, but I'm not sure I want a VV mod yet, will they work ok with an eGo battery, or if not would a Boge 2.0 ohm work well?
  • Do they leak out the bottom of the carto (onto the battery connector etc)


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i just did up a fake little order on momandpops, shipping for 2 minisubs and 2 15ml bottles of juice came to 8 dollars. so parkes is a little cheaper over all. and i think they're 50-90 cent cheaper for the replacement cartos.

so chibi.. just about as good, but a fair bit cheaper
mini sub.. havent used it, but seems to be quite a bit easier to fill and solve any flooding/leaking issues although like i said above, they're pretty rare with the chibis
Yeah I was just doing some dummy orders too, parks do seem to be a bit cheaper. The hole in the side of the mini sub seems great, but the chibi seems very manageable too. I think that'll be the way to go. Now I just need to resist the lavatube

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Haha, yeah, I'm running out of things to try at this point. I don't even want to think how much I've spent, it's more than analogues anyway. But, it has kept me off them so far so it's worth it for now.

(that should say 28 days though, the image doesn't seem to refresh very often)
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You could also try the DCT (Dual Coil Tank), they hold 6ml of liquid and are easier to fill than the chibi tank, no syringe needed.
I use both types and find both are very good, just less refills with the DCT.
I also recommend 3ohm boges with the chibi and 2.5ohm xl dcc's with the DCT if you are considering a Lavatube.
Got the Chibi from Parkes, the DCT from ecigwizard or e-cigshop.ie (cheaper) and 2.5ohm XL DCC's from ecigwizard.
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DCT here (http://e-cigshop.eu/SMOK-dual-coil-c...-coil-tank-6ml) and here (http://www.ecigwizard.com/shop/en/31-puff-tank).
2.5ohm xl dual coil cartos here (http://www.ecigwizard.com/shop/en/ca...artomiser.html) Make sure to get the silver ones only.
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http://www.parkesvaping.com/index.ph...product_id=107

chibi tank

http://momandpopvaporshop.com/tanks/

mini sub/submarine tank

if you're using a standard ego battery, the boge 2ohm's are what you want, not the 3ohms. 3ohms wont do **** on an ego battery
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The Puff Tanks work quite well and can be bought this side of the Atlantic for around a tenner.
My only advice would be to buy a ming drip tip, as this will solve any sliding issues.
I have the latest arry tank (stainless steel) en-route, will let ye know how it works out. I'm expecting great things as I have version 3 of the arry tank for clearomizers and it's brilliant, no leaks at all and great flavour.
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i was considering the arry tank, but i dunno how stainless steel would affect the flavour of the juice.. plus I like to be able to quickly look and see how much juice I have left

i know I could just unscrew the top and look in but argh, effort
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It shouldn't effect the flavour at all as it is food grade stainless steel.

I know what you say about not seeing the liquid, but I'm going to either top up once a day, safe in the knowledge that it will easily last me the whole day (in reality a full tank would last 2 days easily)

The reason I went with it was of the threaded screw, no chance of movement in my pocket, removes the need for syringe (other than with a new carto) and almost any size carto will fit big or small.

I'll let you know how I get on, should have it before the end of the week.

I'm going to try some boge dual coils in it, any idea's where's the best place to get the stainless steel ones?
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boge do dual coils?

yeah I probably would like an arry tank, im just trying to convince myself I dont need/want one so picking at flaws desperately

its s shame he only makes such limited runs, seems to be a case where you have to rush to get them. im gona place an order for 50 boge stainless cartos some time this week from healthcabin and even at 2 cartos a week that oughta last me about six months so im not even sure im going to bother with carto tanks in the future.

i have my chibis and I still love them, but if all im doing is sitting at a desk then refilling isnt a huge problem and i really dont mind throwing a 10ml bottle into my pocket if i have to go somewhere.


if I win the euromillions some day, im going to just buy every ecig product on the market and spend a few months trying every damn one of them just so I finally know which is best
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My mistake, I meant regular resistance boge, as I believe the flavour is better?

But I'm unsure how they will work on a lavatube?
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ah, the 2ohms? I tried one on my lavatube last week and it was pretty awesome

so much so that im now wondering whether I oughta get 10 boxes of 3ohms, 5 boxes of 3 and 5 boxes of 2ohms or 10 boxes of 2ohms

im pretty sure the LT will push a 2ohm carto to 5v or just above, and that's generally where I vape anyway.

oh, and if you want somewhere to get them

if you want loads of them and dont mind waiting a while (probably around a month, altough express shipping is about a week) healthcabin.net. my order of 10 boxes incl shipping comes to 41 euro. which isn't bad for 50 cartos. im only ok doing that though because I have about 9 pre-punched cartos and 5 ordinary cartos already in my case.


parkesvaping sells them prepunched in 2ohm and 3ohm for about 2 dollars each, 5 dollars shipping. takes about a week or just under from the states

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