All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

King Mob wrote: »

Why do you believe "They" are trying to destroy society?

Probably something something great reset that they haven’t read.

GT89 wrote: »

Different legal system. I believe private security guards in shops and the like can carry firearms in Australia so probably have some sort of power. Private security have no power to arrest or detain people in Ireland bar citizens arrest.

I'm on about mandatory hotel quarantine and I believe aussie security guards have the same powers as in Ireland, they can make a citizens arrest.

https://yla.org.au/wa/topics/courts-police-and-the-law/powers-of-security-guards/

A security guard, just like any other member of the public, can make a citizen’s arrest. A security guard or bouncer can arrest you if they reasonably suspect that you have committed a crime or are in the middle of committing a crime.

sabat wrote: »

I said society is being destroyed. That is a fact. I didn't say anything else.

Yes. I know. Which is why I'm asking you the reason you believe they are deliberately trying to destroy society for.
What do you believe is the motive?

Please explain your position here as it's very vague and unclear.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

This is incomprehensible.



Another bizarre strawman and rant.

As for church, it's not yet mandatory to wear masks, likewise in post offices, banks, dentists, medical appointments, restaurants, cafes.

Why? probably because there are so few people going to church now and those that do go are socially distancing and wearing masks anyway, so there's no requirement to make it mandatory.

And there are so few people going for a walk at night when everything is shut yet you still seem to think it's necessary to impose a curfew on them to stop them [in your words] mixing and socialising.

sabat wrote: »

"Date" and "permanent" are both words related to time. If this is still going on in 20 years then it obviously was permanent. Conversely, if it all ended tomorrow it obviously wasn't. So my question is at what point inbetween do people accept that it is?

It depends on the virus. There's no "set date" to any of this. It's a fluid situation. Virus decreases to manageable levels, measures reduce. Virus flares up again, measures increase.

Again, you seem to be hinting there is something nefarious behind these measures, what is it?

ShatterAlan wrote: »

And there are so few people going for a walk at night when everything is shut yet you still seem to think it's necessary to impose a curfew on them to stop them [in your words] mixing and socialising.

Do you know how many people ignore the lockdown at night in the Netherlands, to meet in groups of people, rather than just walk their dog?
If it is a significant amount of people, who thereby cause a risk to the rest of society, then the curfew may be justified.
Can you explain the background to the Dutch curfew, and the rational behind it?

If you think about it, the virus it not magically jumping around the population.
It is passing from person to person.
Some people heed the public health advice to socially distance, etc.
Some people don't
Which group of people do you think are causing the virus to spread?

We have basically got a world wide martial law been enacted. The rich are getting richer and the less well off are being put out of business.

How long before we all realise there might be worse things then covid.

NaFirinne wrote: »

We have basically got a world wide martial law been enacted.

No, we don't.
That's not what martial law means.

What "worse things then covid" are you refering to?
What do you believe is the true purpose behind the measures to reduce covid?

GT89 wrote: »

I have heard they can carry weapons over there. Anyway what is going to happens if you rock up in Dublin Airport will the Gardai be lined up to ensure you go off on a bus to the quarantine hotel or will it be a trust based. If the latter its unenforceable?

If we did manage to get the virus cases down to manageable numbers does it not make sense to have a quarantine on people coming into the country?

It would also need to be on more than a trust basis, eg., large fine if they don't answer the phone in their hotel room when it's called at random three times per day.

PintOfView wrote: »

If we did manage to get the virus cases down to manageable numbers does it not make sense to have a quarantine on people coming into the country?

It would also need to be on more than a trust basis, eg., large fine if they don't answer the phone in their hotel room when it's called at random three times per day.

You want to find someone who doesn't answer their phone?


Will you pay the court fees because it was out of charge or because they were asleep?


Is the "bang on the door, wake up, Vee need to talk to you" next?

GT89 wrote: »

Government are just trying to scare people out of booking holidays away like they did last summer when Harris said not looking good for foreign holidays. When in the new there was nothing stopping anyone from going abroad last summer and there is nothing right now either might I add. The government will always bow down to their masters in Brussels.

Try booking two weeks holiday abroad so, no one is stopping you.

GT89 wrote: »

Already have

Well done, so you are proof that the measures are indeed temporary.

GT89 wrote: »

Will there still be social distancing markings and masks by then probably. It probably won't be lockdown but still covid measures like masks and social distancing by then. I think people will still wear masks like they do in Asian countries even when this is over.

I have no issue with that, nothing worse than walking down the street and seeing some knacker hawking green **** all over the pavement or being on a bus/train and people coughing all over the place.