Extinction Rebellion Ireland

biko · 08-11-2019 12:53pm

I think the climate change pill would be easier to swallow for many people if it didn't come wrapped in nutjobs.
To be honest it seems like just another anti-capitalist "revolution" and doesn't seem serious at all.
And Greta "I can see CO2" isn't helping.

cnocbui · 08-11-2019 1:11pm

Anyone got a match?

blinding · 08-11-2019 1:12pm

There is a lot of Guilt from the Middle Class / Upper Class in this Extinction Rebellion .

With the reduction of religion , they have nowhere to go to confess their sins of over-consumerism / excess .

No religious Elders to dispense forgiveness / penance for their sins .

weldoninhio · 08-11-2019 1:16pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Would you consider increased tropical storms, melting of Icecaps, and most seriously melting of glaciers that provide essential fresh water to a quarter of the worlds population, the sky falling in?

No, as I said it is cyclical. How did those glaciers and icecaps come to be in the first place? Through the earths cycle of heating up and cooling down.

cnocbui · 08-11-2019 1:22pm

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50341846

What is the posting of that link supposed to mean? I hope you weren't trying to imply the flooding was due to global warming, because if so, you have some explaining to do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods

Micky 32 · 08-11-2019 1:57pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

There is actually very few climate change deniers, the problem for the likes of you is that most here don't accept the apocalypse that the likes of you are promoting. If we are to believe the likes of Greta the world will pretty much end by 2030 which not even the most shrill climate change scientists endorses .

That’s why whenever i see a post that begins with robert beech and the likes i just scroll past.

biko · 08-11-2019 2:15pm

"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"

mgn · 08-11-2019 2:25pm

biko wrote: »

"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"

Tell that to the children of the parents who are to lose there jobs in Shannonbridge and Lanesbora, all in the name of climate change.

Micky 32 · 08-11-2019 2:26pm

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Micky 32 · 08-11-2019 2:28pm

mgn wrote: »

Tell that to the children of the parents who are to lose there jobs in Shannonbridge and Lanesbora, all in the name of climate change.

Speaking of that, where is the electricity going to come from to meet supply and demand to the midlands?

biko · 08-11-2019 2:38pm

If all the protesters got the snip we would have solved the problem in a generation, kinda..

A snip for the planet
https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2013/10/22/3874251.htm

mgn · 08-11-2019 2:40pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Speaking of that, where is the electricity going to come from to meet supply and demand to the midlands?

It doesn't matter where, but closing these looks good for these idiots.
China opening hundreds of new coal powered stations every year, but thats okay.

Micky 32 · 08-11-2019 2:43pm

mgn wrote: »

It doesn't matter where, but closing these looks good for these idiots.
China opening hundreds of new coal powered stations every year, but thats okay.

They had always planned to close them anyway, it’s nothing to do with climate change the closures. They are now using it as an excuse.

mgn · 08-11-2019 2:52pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

They had always planned to close them anyway, it’s nothing to do with climate change the closures. They are now using it as an excuse.

https://www.esb.ie/our-businesses/generation-energy-trading-new/midland-stations

That was not the plan,

Micky 32 · 08-11-2019 2:56pm

mgn wrote: »

https://www.esb.ie/our-businesses/generation-energy-trading-new/midland-stations

That was not the plan,

Like everything else minds were changed a lot over the years, these were recent plans, go back further years. They actually had Lanesboro closed for a while some years back.

c.p.w.g.w · 08-11-2019 3:26pm

mgn wrote: »

It doesn't matter where, but closing these looks good for these idiots.
China opening hundreds of new coal powered stations every year, but thats okay.

China are actually using more renewable sources, coal consumption has been in decline since 2009, it's still very high but it's coming down

20Cent · 08-11-2019 4:52pm

Remember when we stopped using video tapes and onto DVDs. Dd all the video tape makers starve to death or just find something else to do?

That will happen again.

SeanW · 08-11-2019 9:12pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

China are actually using more renewable sources, coal consumption has been in decline since 2009, it's still very high but it's coming down

One should take anything to do with the PRC with ... forget a pinch of salt ... more like an entire salt mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYY1TjRigl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYY1TjRigl8 (In case you can't see the video).

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

So far off their trolleys that they want us to emulate North Korea. I can imagine that it wouldn't take much for them to start killing people, the more demented ones anyway. A mixture of religious Puritanism and Communism.

Exactly. This problem has been known for hundreds of years, back in the 1700s William Pitt the Younger described XR and Greta Thunberg types explicitly. He said:

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

The Junior Pitt could well be describing some in this thread!

Socialists always create divisions of some sort and always use "Necessity" as justification for evil. National Socialists promoted the necessity to build a leviathan state divided around ethnicity. Marxist Socialists promoted the necessity to build a leviathan state divided around class and a "proletarian revolution" In both cases as history records, everything quickly went South, Marxist Socialists slaughtered 100,000,000 people in the last century, National Socialists 20 million more.

Yet today, right here, we have those claiming "necessity" again, to build a leviathan state around "green ideals" ... the sole purpose seeming to be to reduce the Irish people to little more than Soviet era serfs ... The more things change, the more things say the same.

Micky 32 · 09-11-2019 2:16am

Robert_Beach wrote: »

Well said. Our current pace of life is not one that can continue. We need to cut back in every aspect of life

Stop being a begrudger, thanks.

blueshade · 09-11-2019 9:29am

I loved that photo of Moan of Arc with her new friend Leonardo Di Caprio. NO mention of his private jets or his superyachts though. Guess she's selective about who she criticises or maybe she was just looking for a free boat ride to Spain.

Dr. Bre · 09-11-2019 1:10pm

Hypocrisy of the highest level

20Cent · 09-11-2019 1:36pm

blueshade wrote: »

I loved that photo of Moan of Arc with her new friend Leonardo Di Caprio. NO mention of his private jets or his superyachts though. Guess she's selective about who she criticises or maybe she was just looking for a free boat ride to Spain.

How do you know she hasn't mentioned those things?

Jimmy Garlic · 09-11-2019 6:31pm

20Cent wrote: »

How do you know she hasn't mentioned those things?

Got a link to where st Greta has criticised her obscenely wealthy mates? All her angry bile is directed at ordinary people. The circles she hangs around in are exempt from the sacrifice that she demands. Governments, media, Ngos and theirs globalist string pullers, the entire established system, approve her, obviously. They wouldn't give a platform to someone, or some idea that threatens them, would they?

Plumbthedepths · 09-11-2019 6:42pm

The boat that they made such a big deal about her travelling to the US on is owned by a lad linked to Formula 1 car racing. Those cars run on fossil fuels to the best of my knowledge.

high_king · 09-11-2019 6:49pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The boat that they made such a big deal about her travelling to the US on is owned by a lad linked to Formula 1 car racing. Those cars run on fossil fuels to the best of my knowledge.

I wonder did our new un-elected world leader Greta lecture him about F1's effect on the environment ?

Sure travel by a multimillionaire's private yaught is viable for everyone.

Any word yet on how she's proposing to travel back ?

Danzy · 09-11-2019 7:40pm

biko wrote: »

I think the climate change pill would be easier to swallow for many people if it didn't come wrapped in nutjobs.
To be honest it seems like just another anti-capitalist "revolution" and doesn't seem serious at all.
And Greta "I can see CO2" isn't helping.

Exactly.

high_king · 09-11-2019 8:58pm

biko wrote: »

This image is a pretty good analogy of some of the bull shyte they expect people to unquestionably swallow.

20Cent · 09-11-2019 9:07pm

Deniers won't listen to anybody.
Disingenuous to suggest it's the protesters fault they are still ignorant.

Jimmy Garlic · 09-11-2019 9:50pm

20Cent wrote: »

Deniers won't listen to anybody.
Disingenuous to suggest it's the protesters fault they are still ignorant.

20Cent · 09-11-2019 11:46pm

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Climate change is rational and scientific, it's the deniers who act in a religious way.

HorrorScope · 09-11-2019 11:52pm

20Cent wrote: »

Climate change is rational and scientific, it's the deniers who act in a religious way.

Really? Would you mind reading the bollix spouted below and repeat that with a straight face?

Robert_Beach wrote: »

Yeah, life isn't fair. We in the West will have to reduce what we're used to too.

Foreign holidays, a heavy meat diet, private cars, a throwaway lunch etc etc will all be as alien to an Irish person in 2050 as they will to a Tanzanian of the time.

Robert_Beach wrote: »

Ah I dunno, I tend to think that that the re-wilding should be fine but it's only part of it. Obviously we'll need government departments/projects looking after the rehousing of former rural dwellers, bringing transport etc and stuff up to scratch in the cities. Our EU partners can help out with this, we're not the first country to embark on this path.

Robert_Beach wrote: »

I have answered your question. Natural wastage (i.e. farmers packing it in) and expanding natural parks via CPOs.

I dunno about you, but I wouldn't fancy living in my one off house if bears and wolves and deer and all other animals are being re-introduced and the roads gotten rid of in my area. But sure stick around if you want.

blinding · 10-11-2019 12:14am

high_king wrote: »

This image is a pretty good analogy of some of the bull shyte they expect people to unquestionably swallow.

20Cent wrote: »

Climate change is rational and scientific, it's the deniers who act in a religious way.

Look at the Religious Iconography there !

Plumbthedepths · 10-11-2019 1:56am

20Cent wrote: »

Climate change is rational and scientific, it's the deniers who act in a religious way.

Ah would you ever cop on to yourself, climate change activitists are a recognised cult at this stage.

cnocbui · 10-11-2019 2:32am

20Cent wrote: »

Climate change is rational and scientific, it's the deniers who act in a religious way.

Science died when so called scientists got behind the religion and stopped being open minded and questioning.

I wonder if you even know what is the most potent greenhouse gas?

10-11-2019 2:43am

So boards.ie is does not support climate change science? Am I reading this correctly?

Plumbthedepths · 10-11-2019 3:04am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So boards.ie is does not support climate change science? Am I reading this correctly?

No your not reading it correctly, most Boardies don't accept the bull**** peddled by Greta and co but know there is a problem.

cnocbui · 10-11-2019 3:06am

Deleted User wrote: »

So boards.ie is does not support climate change science? Am I reading this correctly?

It's a religion, not a science. Real science is always open to question.

lola85 · 10-11-2019 3:08am

Can climate believers here please lead by example and put down their phone....

Carbon neutral??

lola85 · 10-11-2019 3:09am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So boards.ie is does not support climate change science? Am I reading this correctly?

Your carbon footprint by using a device hooked up to a broadband provider is off the scale.

20Cent · 10-11-2019 10:55am

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Ah would you ever cop on to yourself, climate change activitists are a recognised cult at this stage.

Cults believe in things with no scientific proof.
There is more proof of climate change than any religion.

10-11-2019 11:29am

I can't even deal with this

10-11-2019 12:53pm

cnocbui wrote: »

It's a religion, not a science. Real science is always open to question.

Ok I'll give this a go.

Is that Belgian lad out in Greenland measuring the rate of the ice disappearing part of this religion?

Who exactly is not open to question?

10-11-2019 12:55pm

lola85 wrote: »

Your carbon footprint by using a device hooked up to a broadband provider is off the scale.

So I have to live in a log cabin? It's gotta be all or nothing? Then you'll be complaining about the trees felled for the logs. What's wrong with incremental change

_Brian · 10-11-2019 1:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

So I have to live in a log cabin? It's gotta be all or nothing? Then you'll be complaining about the trees felled for the logs. What's wrong with incremental change

ER official spokesmen have said incremental change is no good.
They absolutely want governments to throw modern living under the bus (electric I presume).
They called for governments to initiate policies to drive negative gdp. This would cascade a major worldwide recession and inflict desperate desperate hardships into people, people would loose their jobs, their homes and families.

All this based on the sketchy interpretation of some reports. A pure one sided view.

Literally the cure would be worse than the problem.

10-11-2019 1:17pm

_Brian wrote: »

ER official spokesmen have said incremental change is no good.
They absolutely want governments to throw modern living under the bus (electric I presume).
They called for governments to initiate policies to drive negative gdp. This would cascade a major worldwide recession and inflict desperate desperate hardships into people, people would loose their jobs, their homes and families.

All this based on the sketchy interpretation of some reports. A pure one sided view.

Literally the cure would be worse than the problem.

Fair complaints. I thought people were climate change deniers.

mgn · 10-11-2019 1:43pm

Great to see everyone is taking climate change seriously.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-discovers-new-oil-field-that-could-boost-reserves-by-a-third-says-president-rouhani-11858734

_Brian · 10-11-2019 1:49pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Fair complaints. I thought people were climate change deniers.

From my perspective only a blatant fool would deny climate change, the evidence both scientific and anecdotal is there to be seen.

There are some that are of the opinion that’s it’s a 100% natural phenomenon and we should let it run its course while we continue blindly, I accept they hold that position but actual evidence would point to them being wrong. Changes seem very tightly matched to industrialisation of civilisation.

No matter how small our pet we should take steps to negate it.
Definite incremental movement is a strategy that the population will accept (some begrudgingly) but they will accept.

This fire and brimstone approach suggested by ER is just making any conversation on the topic impossible as it turns people off, and with current short attention spans once you loose someone from a topic they are lost, moved on to funny cat videos or whatever fills the void in their lives.

blueshade · 10-11-2019 7:28pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The boat that they made such a big deal about her travelling to the US on is owned by a lad linked to Formula 1 car racing. Those cars run on fossil fuels to the best of my knowledge.

He's also a Rothschild, a member of the royal family too. St Greta certainly does get about. I doubt travelling the world following F1 is environmentally friendly, the media on a global scale, where very complicit in hiding the fact that a crew had to be flown to America to sail the boat back and the crew that sailed it over with her had to fly home, so basically far more of a carbon footprint than if just she and her father had flown to America. More do as I say not as I do. Haven't heard any criticism from her of China, India or Pakistan, her criticisms don't tend to apply to ethnic minorities, even if they are the biggest polluters on the planet.

20Cent · 10-11-2019 7:32pm

Can someone explain the conspiracy theory to me?
Thousands of scientists are faking results in order to make everyone think climate change is a big issue so that they can turn the world communist or something. Amirite?

Professor Moriarty · 10-11-2019 7:33pm

blueshade wrote: »

He's also a Rothschild, a member of the royal family too. St Greta certainly does get about. I doubt travelling the world following F1 is environmentally friendly, the media on a global scale, where very complicit in hiding the fact that a crew had to be flown to America to sail the boat back and the crew that sailed it over with her had to fly home, so basically far more of a carbon footprint than if just she and her father had flown to America. More do as I say not as I do. Haven't heard any criticism from her of China, India or Pakistan, her criticisms don't tend to apply to ethnic minorities, even if they are the biggest polluters on the planet.

Can you explain that please?

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