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Summer 2020 - General Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,987 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    It really is a miserable afternoon out there.

    Can hardly see out for the rain on the window.

    Still windy, and cold to boot.

    It is beginning to look like Spring is the new summer in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Band after band of drizzle and mist in West Clare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Yeah this is the worst day in months in Dublin. Bloody cold in my house but I refuse to turn heat on so a blanket on the couch will have to do!
    Tomorrow looks half decent anyway so hopefully this is the worst day for a while.
    I gave in half an hour ago + put on the heating. It's just too cold. It may say June on calendar but more like a winters day.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    appledrop wrote: »
    I gave in half an hour ago + put on the heating. It's just too cold. It may say June on calendar but more like a winters day.

    The fire will be lit early this evening, it is absolutely baltic today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,666 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    There hasn’t been much more than a very light sprinkle of rain here in Cabinteely since this morning. Cold and windy though


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Love the latest update from Gonzo in the +120hrs model watch thread.

    I know, I know its unsettled but the rain is needed, so its a good forecast in my view.

    Today at my location in Kilkenny, a massive 0.2mm of rain bringing the monthly figure to 2.2mm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Love the latest update from Gonzo in the +120hrs model watch thread.

    I know, I know its unsettled but the rain is needed, so its a good forecast in my view.

    Today at my location in Kilkenny, a massive 0.2mm of rain bringing the monthly figure to 2.2mm.

    Yeah rain is needed alright but hopefully the tap is turned off again after a week or so and we can get weather back like we had last weekend


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Love the latest update from Gonzo in the +120hrs model watch thread.

    I know, I know its unsettled but the rain is needed, so its a good forecast in my view.

    Today at my location in Kilkenny, a massive 0.2mm of rain bringing the monthly figure to 2.2mm.

    I'm sure a day or two of rain would be welcome but what the GFS is showing is 10+ days of rain and showers and back to normal service which is not what we want heading into the summer. It would be similar to June last year with rain, showers, wind and cool temperature day after day. However at the moment there is so much uncertainty after next Wednesday there is no guarantee the weather will play out like the horror show that the GFS is showing at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    It's the wind that gets me. Don't mind some rain for a bit, but that howling wind is unbearable. Some difference from this day last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    Just thrown two thirds of my cucumber plant in the bin after it's been flip flopping in the wind all over the place since yesterday. Hoping I can save even some of it. Was a good 5ft and starting to fruit. Lost more plants in the wind two weeks ago. Things were starting to recover so well in the sun seems back to square one now with everything in tatters. Don't mind a bit of rain but the insistent wind coupled with rain, cold temps and grey skies is depressing.

    Hope my sunflowers hold off on flowering.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Just two years ago we had an amazing summer. Our bad weather is so exaggerated. Try living on Scotland!
    It's not just the rain, it's the greyness and wind too! London may be miserable but they are guaranteed more summer weather, we ain't. So allow us to moan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Met eireann giving mostly dry and temps in high teens to low 20s next week. Hardly bad weather. In the east that is. If you want reliable summers every year pick a line from Paris and south. Ireland and UK will never be reliable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Just two years ago we had an amazing summer. Our bad weather is so exaggerated. Try living on Scotland!

    2018 was amazing,it was also once or twice a decade weather,2013 and1995 were similar, im 42 and thats the summers I remember.
    It's fairly depressing,especially when you look at what we had last week,it's a different world.
    I don't think i could hack a repeat of June 2019 when it was 12 degrees and windy here in the West for weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Knock 9 degrees at 4pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    That little shortwave that cuts down over Ireland and the UK around +96hrs really could send us down a bad patch!

    The GFS 6z has a low spinning in perpetuity to the west of Ireland throwing up rain band after rain band!

    Let's hope for a quick flip back otherwise it could be a long June.

    It would be good if there was a flip again in the models, but i have a feeling we will soon be locked into our default summer pattern. The latest UK Met Office is the typical update you'd expect to see from them in a normal summer- the best of any dry weather in the south east, with the west seeing rain at times. That suggests to me the Atlantic is going to take over sooner rather than later. I hope i'm wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    I think any forecasts past 5 days are always very suspect. I know there is some pessimism today after such a great few months of weather but medium to long range forecasts tend to be very unreliable, the forecast for the week ahead from met eireann looks fine. Not sunny and particularly warm but dry and mild from what I can see


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Miserable day today. I fear for the summer. 2/3 months of blocking highs. Looks like the Atlantic will dominate for the next 3 months


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Based on a few cooler than normal days and 3 months of great weather before this. How can people be so pessimistic based on 2-3 poor days and a half decent outlook for the week ahead from met eireann with temps up to low 20s
    alentejo wrote: »
    Miserable day today. I fear for the summer. 2/3 months of blocking highs. Looks like the Atlantic will dominate for the next 3 months


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    As per met eireann website now....hardly shocking stuff??

    Tuesday: Dry in most areas at first, with some bright or sunny spells, especially in the east. Rain will move in across Atlantic coastal counties later Tuesday, spreading eastwards during the evening and early night, but becoming patchy. Max. 14 to 19 degrees, coolest along Atlantic coastal counties and mildest in the east and southeast. Winds mostly light SW'ly, moderate to fresh on Atlantic coasts.

    Wednesday: Brightening up gradually, with some sunny spells developing and scattered showers, most of the showers in the north and northwest, where some will be heavy. Max. 13 to 18 C., in light NW'ly breezes.

    Thursday: A breezy day, with bright or sunny spells and scattered showers, most frequent in the eastern half of the country, where some will be heavy. Max. 15 to 18 or 19 Celsius, coolest on northern and eastern coasts, in moderate to fresh north to northeast winds.

    Outlook: Current indications are that Friday will be mostly dry and the weekend will be more mixed, with some scattered showers, but good dry periods also. Warmer, with temperatures in the high teens to low 20s, with mostly light variable winds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    How can people be so pessimistic based on 2-3 poor days and a half decent outlook for the week ahead from met eireann with temps up to low 20s

    I think that's precisely the reason. Expectations or hopes escalated because of such a prolonged period of fine weather that went on beforehand. Whenever these acclaimed seasons or periods occur, it's difficult to near impossible to please many the next year or period following it. If this summer isn't exceptional, it will look in comparison to the spring quite poor.

    There's also the Irish summer fatigue that happens every year and the poor models don't help the situation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,847 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    It honestly is like a different country out there today compared to last week

    What a difference a week makes


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    We the Irish love a good moan. I actually heard someone in the supermarket last week say it’s too warm at the moment and I am sick of the sun. What’s the bets that same person is now complaining about the cold and a bit of rain!
    sryanbruen wrote: »
    I think that's precisely the reason. Expectations or hopes escalated because of such a prolonged period of fine weather that went on beforehand. Whenever these acclaimed seasons or periods occur, it's difficult to near impossible to please many the next year or period following it. If this summer isn't exceptional, it will look in comparison to the spring quite poor.

    There's also the Irish summer fatigue that happens every year and the poor models don't help the situation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The Met Eireann TV forecast is now different to the website, now saying rain on Wednesday.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Today's high's. Ireland one of the coldest locations with temperatures between 10 and 13C. Many places would have been in single digits for much of today.

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    Tomorrow will feel much warmer generally compared to the bitterness of today with temperatures of 14 to 18C, possibly 19C in any decent spells of sunshine towards the south and the east.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    4.7 degree high in parts of Scotland. I wonder has snow ever fallen in June
    Gonzo wrote: »
    Today's high's. Ireland one of the coldest locations with temperatures between 10 and 13C. Many places would have been in single digits for much of today.

    txint_uk.png

    Tomorrow will feel much warmer generally compared to the bitterness of today with temperatures of 14 to 18C, possibly 19C in any decent spells of sunshine towards the south and the east.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    4.7 degree high in parts of Scotland. I wonder has snow ever fallen in June

    Most of the UK even in the south had a covering of snow in June before, I think it was 2 June 1975 where several cm of snow lay to low levels.

    I saw snow here in Ireland one June morning, I think it was 1986, it didn't stick or anything as it was only a brief snow flurry shower just as I started school that morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭Farmer2017


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Most of the UK even in the south had a covering of snow in June before, I think it was 2 June 1975 where several cm of snow lay to low levels.

    What the weather looking like the next 10 days and much rain coming for midland areas


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Farmer2017 wrote: »
    What the weather looking like the next 10 days and much rain coming for midland areas

    With the charts changing several times per day at the moment that is very difficult to answer. There is a fair chance you'll get some rain during the second half of next week, after that it's very difficult to say. How much rain will fall later next week will depend greatly on the tracking of a low pressure between here and Iceland, it could miss us altogether, we could get a direct hit or it could only affect the east or only the west or maybe just the north, will have to wait and see. By Tuesday we should have a much better idea of what's in store up to next weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Todays Max

    Johnstown Castle 14.1 degrees
    Roaches Point 13.9
    Sherkin 13.7
    Cork 13.7
    Shannon 13.5


    Knock ,once again(up on a hill exposed to NW'LY breeze) just getting 10.3 degrees as a maximum. Very poor for June 6th


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    It’s cold in the house tonight
    Sad times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    And of course people are gonna moan and throw toys out of pram when the weather went from on holidays on the med weather to basically winter weather and the sad realisation we may not get any more prolonged periods of nice weather as they are so rare here. I'm just extra whingey because it's unlikely I'll be able to escape to Spain like i do every year. Winter doesn't bother me really but poor weather at this time of year really seems to affect my mood. At least it's not as bad out today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    We had great weather while we are in lockdown. As we make progression out of lockdown it seems the weather is disapproving. The weather has got cooler in the last week with a chance of wetter weather in the next week or so. Chance of thundery weather over next weekend with a bit of warmth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    It’s a bit milder there so that’s a positive but it’s that dark grey dull Irish sky that very very few countries pass off as their summer. The lads on the long range threads are very pessimistic about anything other than the usual 9-16 degrees, cloudy some wet days some dry days nothingness that passes off as our summer.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    It’s a bit milder there so that’s a positive but it’s that dark grey dull Irish sky that very very few countries pass off as their summer. The lads on the long range threads are very pessimistic about anything other than the usual 9-16 degrees, cloudy some wet days some dry days nothingness that passes off as our summer.

    We will warm up over the next few weeks but the weather will be quite mixed with rain or showers at times as low pressures will be close to us or over us numerous times. The very cold conditions we've had for the past 2 days will improve and despite the fairly mixed outlook we will have some nice warm spells of sunshine at times. Model watching is quite frustrating at the moment and I think even a return to dry and settled conditions could happen towards the end of this month or possibly sooner with a bit of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Beautiful evening here in east Cork. Very pleasant in the sun.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Cloudy in cork city, mild enough though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Fabulous evening in Dublin. Yes not the great temperatures of the last few weeks but very pleasant


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    a lovely evening here in Meath, probably the nicest weather we've had since the dry and warm spell broke last Wednesday. Tomorrow should be similar to current conditions, good drying weather and it will be fairly mild.

    Temperatures tomorrow reaching 19C in spells of afternoon sunshine.

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    We start to turn more unsettled and cooler from Tuesday with rain at times, mostly light and temperatures back to 10 to 16C. Tomorrow might be the best day of the week as we will generally be fairly cool from Tuesday to Friday with showers or rain at times. Staying unsettled from Friday but a much more humid and warmer air mass will take over from then into the weekend and on into next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Brightening up now in cork city, some blue sky appearing :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭spoonerhead


    Beautiful evening in Dublin , sunshine with gentle breeze. Around 17c.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    I thought it was a very nice day in D5 today, pleasantly mild and dry and sunny for much of the afternoon / evening. Still waiting on any meaningful rain


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    beautiful sunny afternoon yesterday up around Dunany and Annagassan Co Louth, right on the coast. Back this morning to local beach a few km away. Sun splitting the stones everywhere so far, even in the garden in south Drogheda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Big difference in mean max temps around the country for the first week in June this year, which range from 19.4c at Mount Dillon, to just 13.4c at Malin Hd.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Thinking back to this period of the year back in 2014, when we seen what was probably our most thundery spell in quite a number of years (the last such spell I think was back in summer 2009... that I can recall anyway) 4 days of thunder on the trot, with most of them days seeing more than one thunderstorm passing over. Short lived but quite lively affairs each time. Met Eireann maps for June 7th-10th 2014

    June 7th:
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    June 8th:
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    June 9th:
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    June 10th:
    sferic_20140610.gif

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    I have to agree 100% with you. Even not considering the atrocity that was February, this has felt like the windiest year (so far) in a while. I thought 2015 was ridiculous enough at the time.

    I am curious too about the actual stats for previous January to May/June periods in comparison but February might skew them somewhat given its extremity.

    Worth looking into Syran. Stats for the Spring (March-May) period anyway as there did seem to be that constant, getting under your shirt breeze pretty much constantly this Spring. Might take a look at Claremorris & Shannon data. I'll leave the Dublin station to thee, as I image that being located on the east coast, that breeze would have even been more felt given the dominant wind direction for much of the season.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Nice here at the moment in east Cork. Lovely in the sun but definitely a touch of coolness in the breeze. Nice overall.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Lovely day in Dublin 5, sun been splitting the sky all day so far.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Lovely day in Dublin 5, sun been splitting the sky all day so far.

    fantastic day, today will probably be the dryest and warmest day of the week, cooler and more cloudy from tomorrow then unsettled from Wednesday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭snowgal


    agreed lovely day in Meath and temp quite high when the sun is out in full....Ill take it while its here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Interesting post Gonzo. Especially regarding August in recent times. However August pre the wet summers between 2007-2012 was a decent month. August 2003, 2002, 1995, 1990, 1991, 1984, 1983, 1976, 1979 were very good summer months.

    August 2006, 2005, 2004, 2000, 1999, 1994 etc were all reasonable summer months.

    It's really since 2007 that these poor Augusts kicked in.

    August 1979 was poor... had the infamous Fastnet yacht disaster. I'm sure a typo.

    That period 1994 to 2005 was highly unusual with every August in that period having a CET mean max of 20.0C or more.

    Did ya know that years ago August was the wettest month of the year on average at Phoenix Park... wetter than October, November or December.

    https://twitter.com/SryanBruen/status/1155630558099189761?s=20


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