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AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

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    #7562
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    PWInsider has a new report up saying Andrade's contract is the same as everyone else's in AEW and he doesn't have any creative control, so I guess everyone who was worried on that front can relax!


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    #7563
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,368 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Shida is the number 1 selling action figure in wrestling and Hager is number 2 that's ahead of WWE action figures as well.


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    #7564
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Shida is the number 1 selling action figure in wrestling and Hager is number 2 that's ahead of WWE action figures as well.

    Well that is hot garbage. :eek:

    Cody has about 8 figures but SHIDA and HAGER are outselling him? That's nonsense. Where is this ranking system? Is Nielsen tracking it? :confused:

    Also WWE toys are much more readily available around the world so how would this even be remotely possible? It takes about 6 seconds of critical thinking to work out that can't possibly be true.


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    #7565
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Big Zicky Dice making his AEW debut tonight on Dark, against Archer though so RIP. Still good to see him get a chance to impress!


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    #7566
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,116 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Monokne wrote: »
    Well that is hot garbage. :eek:

    Cody has about 8 figures but SHIDA and HAGER are outselling him? That's nonsense. Where is this ranking system? Is Nielsen tracking it? :confused:

    Also WWE toys are much more readily available around the world so how would this even be remotely possible? It takes about 6 seconds of critical thinking to work out that can't possibly be true.

    https://www.ringsidecollectibles.com/features-best-sellers.html

    In wrestling.*

    *On one website.

    And who the fúck is buying Jake Hager toys?

    I remember blowing all my communion money in Toymasters on about a dozen wrestling figures, a ring with a cage and the titantron that played a wrestler's theme when you placed them on the steel strip on the stage.

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    The Rock was out of stock for about a month and I was in there most days checking if he was in. Money well spent.


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    #7567
    grames_bond
    Registered Users Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    J. Marston wrote: »
    I remember blowing all my communion money in Toymasters on about a dozen wrestling figures, a ring with a cage and the titantron that played a wrestler's theme when you placed them on the steel strip on the stage.

    I had that too - if you just kept putting the same figure on it enough times it would cycle through everyones music - didn't need to buy them all :pac:


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    #7568
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 28,857 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I remember the WCW figures that didn't move. Think had Sting (top left) and one other
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    Also had old Earthquake (spring action arms) and Ultimate Warrior (pressing the feet made the arms move)

    As for AEW, I didn't even know Hager had a figure.

    Speaking of Shida, she cut her hair.


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    #7569
    johnnysmack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭johnnysmack


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Shida is the number 1 selling action figure in wrestling and Hager is number 2 that's ahead of WWE action figures as well.

    Boards local AEW one man propaganda machine strikes again! The website that J. Marston linked does indeed have shida and hager at 1 and 2....on the default list. Click on the drop down menu and click best selling and it shows that The Fiend is number 1 (according to this site at least), Jericho's 'with a little bit of the bubbly' is 2nd and a fecking table is the third best selling.

    There is yet another bray wyatt figure next, a firefly fun house one before you finally get Cody and moxley popping up.

    This forum has become little more than points scoring against AEW or WWE these days depending whose side you come down on. Used to love reading all the posts in here, this was my go to place for any news and opinions because of all the knowledgeable people in here. Now a days you just get this kind of dribble instead.


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    #7570
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    ThePott wrote: »
    I don't think anyone is saying it's a surprise, they're not going to give away a massive main even that time of night on a Friday. My point is that suggesting that we're not smart enough to get that is disingenuous and it doesn't make the quality of the show any better that there is a pattern or a precedent for it.

    It would just be nice for a change if people came out and said it wasn't a good show without a million caveats or blaming people for 'not getting' the booking pattern.

    Nobody is saying it was a great or even very good show but people talking about the format and asking why Dustin Rhodes is headlining the show is odd because it's blatantly obvious why the show was formatted that way last week.


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    #7571
    Cherry_Cola
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    Figures are big business here these days. Scalping in the US is insane so it's impossible to get any of the in demand figures. A Darby Allin chase figure fetches about 1400 at the moment.


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    #7572
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭ThePott


    LineOfBeauty wrote: »
    Nobody is saying it was a great or even very good show but people talking about the format and asking why Dustin Rhodes is headlining the show is odd because it's blatantly obvious why the show was formatted that way last week.
    It is obvious. Yet they have a better show booked for this week in the same timeslot. I mean by that logic every Friday Dynamite is skippable or filler. The person I initially responded to said they didn't find the show that bad but my issue is saying that people should recognise the booking partern as a way of excusing quality.

    That is just strange in my opinion and giving a really weird out. Like, it might have been a bad show but it's the fans fault for expecting a decent show when it doesn't fit the booking pattern, that is a really odd take.


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    #7573
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,368 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    johnnysmack wrote: »
    Used to love reading all the posts in here, this was my go to place for any news and opinions because of all the knowledgeable people in here. Now a days you just get this kind of dribble instead.

    Maybe actually participate in discussions and start some of your own instead of bitching about other posters post and actually try and get the forum more active instead of whining like a child that you don't like it here anymore.


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    #7574
    Headshot
    Registered Users Posts: 53,916 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I purchased an AEW Logo Zip Hoodie recently from the USA AEW store

    Was shipped today so it will be interesting when it will be delivered. I reckon 2 months


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    #7575
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,368 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Anyone tried the global shop and the advertised discount codes from TV or PPV?

    Got my eye on

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    #7576
    brianregan09
    Registered Users Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    I ordered a set of AEW series 4 figures from Smyths, well four then , Kenny , Sammy , Santana and Ortiz , all 4 of them arrived in seperate boxes from different couriers ....I really don't understand how that works considering that shipping is free and they were all ordered at the same time


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    #7577
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Anyone tried the global shop and the advertised discount codes from TV or PPV?
    Haven't ordered from Global shop but I did try one of the codes during DON out of curiosity and it did recognise it and knocked it off the price.


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    #7578
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Maybe actually participate in discussions and start some of your own instead of bitching about other posters post and actually try and get the forum more active instead of whining like a child that you don't like it here anymore.

    To be fair Coulson you did post something laughably & demonstrably false without ever walking it back, and almost every post you make in this thread is wildly pro AEW.

    I don't watch almost anything WWE puts out, and only watch AEW but even I have no problem admitting there are weeks (this one) where the program is the sh*ts nor did I buy for a nanosecond that Jack Swagger was the best selling wrestling toy in the world.


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    #7579
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    ThePott wrote: »
    It is obvious. Yet they have a better show booked for this week in the same timeslot. I mean by that logic every Friday Dynamite is skippable or filler. The person I initially responded to said they didn't find the show that bad but my issue is saying that people should recognise the booking partern as a way of excusing quality.

    That is just strange in my opinion and giving a really weird out. Like, it might have been a bad show but it's the fans fault for expecting a decent show when it doesn't fit the booking pattern, that is a really odd take.

    I certainly did not say that the show was booked to be bad. Or that the flipped format made it bad. Simply that they put the important stuff on early because that's when viewership was always going to be highest. Nobody is saying that just because a show is flipped makes it bad or filler.


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    #7580
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I think plenty of people would describe last week's episode as filler, maybe not yourself. Again was the flipped format better or worse? Probably not, much as I understand why it was done. Again my comment was saying that fans should know to temper their expectations because there's a pattern there, that just doesn't wash.


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    #7581
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    ThePott wrote: »
    I think plenty of people would describe last week's episode as filler, maybe not yourself. Again was the flipped format better or worse? Probably not, much as I understand why it was done. Again my comment was saying that fans should know to temper their expectations because there's a pattern there, that just doesn't wash.

    I'd say the first hour was far from filler given that the opening tag obviously has long term ramifications, Andrade debuted and Cody was likely written out. That's not filler. Whether you thought it was well executed is taste.

    And better or worse it doesn't matter either, the issues with the show was not due to the flipped format.

    And nobody said anything at any stage about tempering expectations. I'm not sure where that's come from.


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    #7582
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Lio Rush has announced his retirement from wrestling, seemingly as a result of an injury suffered in the Casino Battle Royale.


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    #7583
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭ThePott


    LineOfBeauty wrote: »
    And nobody said anything at any stage about tempering expectations. I'm not sure where that's come from.
    If Cody is stepping away, it will be at this week's show. If you're telling people they shouldn't expect much on a show because the booking pattern suggests the show is going to under deliver you are tempering people's expectations. Look we could do 10 pages of back and forth on this and never agree, my only point is that blaming a lacklustre show (not saying you were) on people not recognising the pattern of the booker is a really weird way of giving AEW an out.
    RollieFingers wrote: »
    Lio Rush has announced his retirement from wrestling, seemingly as a result of an injury suffered the Casino Battle Royale.
    He's retired before and the injury isn't as major as you'd expect. I respect the decision and all but he's young and I reckon he'll be back.


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    #7584
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    ThePott wrote: »
    If Cody is stepping away, it will be at this week's show. If you're telling people they shouldn't expect much on a show because the booking pattern suggests the show is going to under deliver you are tempering people's expectations. Look we could do 10 pages of back and forth on this and never agree, my only point is that blaming a lacklustre show (not saying you were) on people not recognising the pattern of the booker is a really weird way of giving AEW an out.


    He's retired before and the injury isn't as major as you'd expect. I respect the decision and all but he's young and I reckon he'll be back.

    Bro if you can tell me where at any stage I said that TK's booking pattern means that a show will intentionally under deliver I'll quite literally never post in this thread again, it's like you're replying to a different person but quoting my comments.


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    #7585
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Omackeral wrote: »
    TH2 should join the Hardy Family Office.

    Actually looks possible now given the promo on Dark. Nice to see them get a bit of screen time because they've decent personality. 3:30 for anyone who's interested.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOYTQszA85w


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    #7586
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,368 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Headshot wrote: »
    Interesting

    https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/06/exclusive-news-on-when-andrade-first-met-with-tony-khan/


    Andrade met with Tony Khan in Florida the week he was released from his WWE contract in March. Khan was motivated to sign Andrade, given that he did not have a 90 day non-compete, however a deal wasn’t made.

    Negotiations stalled because of Andrade’s demands, which included wanting creative control and veto power on losing. There was a compromise made on that, and he will have a limited amount of creative control on his finishes. Andrade also wanted to work for other companies outside of WWE.

    Andrade was also in talks with IMPACT. They were willing to guarantee part of his creative control demands but they were too far apart on the number of dates as he would be paid per date and not a guaranteed downside, which is how a lot of recent Impact deals are structured. They were pretty close on a one-off appearance at one point.

    ROH was also reportedly interested in Andrade. Andrade’s close friend Rush is the ROH World Champion, and his ROH contract expires in January.

    After a slow down in getting the deal done, Andrade signed with AEW this week. They had been working on the language in the deal for several days


    The original reporter of the above.
    I had incorrectly reported that Andrade’s final deal had some limited creative control. We are told that Andrade’s deal with AEW does not have any creative control. It was also noted that no one in AEW has creative control in their contracts, as Khan has total control over creative. I have fixed the original article and apologize for the error.

    https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/06/correction-on-andrades-aew-contract/


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    #7587
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭ThePott


    LineOfBeauty wrote: »
    Bro if you can tell me where at any stage I said that TK's booking pattern means that a show will intentionally under deliver I'll quite literally never post in this thread again, it's like you're replying to a different person but quoting my comments.
    I was talking to a different poster who suggested as much and then you chimed in about a flipped show. I quoted you because it addressed the points I made. That's how a discussion works.

    You said people shouldn't be surprised that the show was formatted the way it was. I'm sorry that doesn't wash. We all understand the logistics but blaming fans for thinking a show either didn't work or was poorly formatted is nonsense.


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    #7588
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    RollieFingers wrote: »
    Lio Rush has announced his retirement from wrestling, seemingly as a result of an injury suffered in the Casino Battle Royale.

    I read that. It's unfortunate about the injury but still, I couldn't help but giggle. Wrestler retirements :D


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    #7589
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    ThePott wrote: »
    I was talking to a different poster who suggested as much and then you chimed in about a flipped show. I quoted you because it addressed the points I made. That's how a discussion works.

    You said people shouldn't be surprised that the show was formatted the way it was. I'm sorry that doesn't wash. We all understand the logistics but blaming fans for thinking a show either didn't work or was poorly formatted is nonsense.

    Well tell me, purely from a formatting POV, what about the show did not work for you? I'm not asking your for what did you think was good or bad about individual segments, what did or did not connect for you, I'm saying what about the layout of the show made it bad for you?


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    #7590
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I never said the layout was bad, all I said was that brushing off anyone's complaints or issues as their fault for not being familiar with the booking patterns of the promoter is ludicrous.


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    #7591
    Headshot
    Registered Users Posts: 53,916 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Brilliant, absolutely brilliant

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