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TUF 17

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭scottie pippen


    Just watched it, kinda hoped the Uriah v Bubba fight would have gone on a bit longer.

    I wonder how bad they are making Bubba look with edits?
    ie making he seem really pathetic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Really enjoying this series!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Steve O


    Holy ****, just...wow.
    Anyone notice that bubba almost seemed relieved after? I've disliked this guy all season but I really felt for him after that. He was joking and laughing after getting knocked out.

    Really like uriah, the guy is a ****in beast but he's cool as hell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    I have no doubt in my mind Dylan, my favourite fighter in the house is going out by the hand of Hall, the best fighter in the house :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    The only thing we now know is that Uriah is going to put Andrews in hospital. Dana said at the start of the season that someone put 3 people in hospital in 3 consecutive fights. Last night marked the 2nd
    I think he broke the arm of the guy in the prelims, so Bubba was the third to go to hospital.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Andy-Pandy wrote: »
    I think he broke the arm of the guy in the prelims, so Bubba was the third to go to hospital.

    Shows how tough that guy was in the prelims to hang with him so long, and in fairness, I thought Cella was doing okay up until the kick landed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭UncleChael


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Shows how tough that guy was in the prelims to hang with him so long, and in fairness, I thought Cella was doing okay up until the kick landed.

    Yeah I agree. Hall looks great on TUF, but look up his fights with top class opposition in Chris Weidman and Costas Phillippou if you want to put things into a better perspective. Although granted he did well in the Costas fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    There's nothing wrong with losing to Chris Weidmann. In fact, there's nothing wrong with losing at all. All of the top fighters have losses on their records.

    Also, whether he goes on to win the tournament or not, he'll get a contract, he'll train with the best and he'll start fighting guys at a really decent level.

    All of this will mean that he, at 27/28, can really improve and become a top top fighter.

    Having said all that, I don't think we've seen enough of him to know how good/average he really is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭welkin


    Carlos Condit's "wtf" face was priceless.


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A good deal easier to beat guys who are beating themselves before stepping in with you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭sonic85


    It looked to me like bubba got a bit of a poke in the eye before the knockout blow - that's why he was complaining of pain in his eye. that's what I thought anyway.

    dana wanted a samman hall final right from the start. hell be fairly pissed if Dylan or kelvin manage to win


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    sonic85 wrote: »
    It looked to me like bubba got a bit of a poke in the eye before the knockout blow - that's why he was complaining of pain in his eye. that's what I thought anyway.

    dana wanted a samman hall final right from the start. hell be fairly pissed if Dylan or kelvin manage to win

    If I had to guess I'd say it was the fact that his face was literally broken in three places.

    Also, I doubt Bubba is as bad a personality as he came across in the show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Steve O


    :eek::eek::eek:
    Arm crank into GnP... from the bottom. Holy ****

    Also i'd say dana is fuming at Josh :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Felt bad for Dylan, he had no offence but he is a tough bastard to go in there, knowing what Hall was able to do, ie. take peoples heads off. Also can we be done with spoilers, the show is over?

    genuine surprise and I'm very happy for KG in the first fight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    UncleChael wrote: »
    Yeah I agree. Hall looks great on TUF, but look up his fights with top class opposition in Chris Weidman and Costas Phillippou if you want to put things into a better perspective. Although granted he did well in the Costas fight.

    He fought Chris and Costa after just 4 fights. He likely wasn't trainging at a top gym either. His time in the house should improve him a lot, as will what ever team he joins afterwards.

    Andersen Silva lost a decision early in his career. It means little in the overall scheme.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    I'm delighted Kelvin made it through. It will make for a much more exciting finale. Uriah would have finished Josh within 2 minutes imo.

    Kelvin on the other hand will be no walk in the park for him. After Dylan Andrews he was the fighter I enjoyed watching the most this season. He was last pick for his team and he made the oppositions 2nd and 3rd picks look very poor by comparison.

    Consistently underestimated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Ian Whelan


    11/4 Kelvin with Paddy Power. Decent odds in my view. I might have a small interest. I accept Uriah is the deserved favourite but the occasion may get to him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Ian Whelan wrote: »
    11/4 Kelvin with Paddy Power. Decent odds in my view. I might have a small interest. I accept Uriah is the deserved favourite but the occasion may get to him.

    Deffo worth a punt at that price. Bookies must have him written off entirely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭stuchyg


    Any word on whether the two lads have joined teams since the show. I was actually clapping the TV when Kelvin beat Josh. Minicain ftw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Anybody predicting Kelvin to surprise us tonight?

    Hall looks the real deal in fairness


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    dave1982 wrote: »
    Anybody predicting Kelvin to surprise us tonight?

    Hall looks the real deal in fairness

    I think Kelvin is infinitely better than anyone has so far given him credit for. I think overall he faced far more difficult opposition in the house than Uriah.

    He totally dominated Bubba and Josh and got the second best KO of the season against the other guy (Colin Hart's his name I think). Its a 50/50 fight for me. But my heart always makes my decisions for me so I'm backing Kelvin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    dave1982 wrote: »
    Anybody predicting Kelvin to surprise us tonight?

    Hall looks the real deal in fairness

    Wouldnt be surprised, Hall is definately not a mortgage job. Remember Ricci and Smith, not many gave smith a chance but the wrestling was superior and i think Gastelum is similarly a superior wrestler here. Also Hall seemed slightly out of sorts before the stoppage. Or maybe it was just a different game plan but imo the stoppage only really came about because Andrews literally ran out of gas which gave Hall the key to pound away from his back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    What time (GMT/Irish) are the facebook fights starting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭nino1


    Why is bubba v Gilbert on the main card?
    Out of all the tuf guys on tonight I though they were by far the poorest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    ^agreed, much more interested to see how Dylan and Clint get on tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,925 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Ian Whelan wrote: »
    11/4 Kelvin with Paddy Power. Decent odds in my view. I might have a small interest. I accept Uriah is the deserved favourite but the occasion may get to him.

    im on him too at 3s (bet365)
    it way too big to ignore


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭ASJ112


    Prelims have already started, youtube link here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn5pQVQ0pxk

    slick submission by Pineda


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭rain on


    FOTN candidate there shirley


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Steve O


    That was a quality bout.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Steve O


    Gave up his back way too easily there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    anyone have a good stream for the prelims?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,806 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    ufc.tv is pretty good


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    lertsnim wrote: »
    ufc.tv is pretty good

    Thanks bud


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,806 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    That was a fine elbow for the ko


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Nice elbow from nowhere from Clint!

    Dylan won easily when he had a chance to connect on Quinlan.

    Delighted for both fighters TBH, good night so far, looking forward to TUF final now, not very interested in the main event


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭welkin


    How the hell are bubba and Gilbert on the main card?

    Those two were probably the worst on the show. Both in terms of likeability and fighting skill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Zingano can fairly take a shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Zingano landed at least one illegal knee in the build up to the finish.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭welkin


    Thought hall did enough there.

    Kelvin did nothing besides take downs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    welkin wrote: »
    Thought hall did enough there.

    Kelvin did nothing besides take downs.

    Yeah it's a problem with MMA judging. Way too much credit is given to take downs and wrestling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Mr Blobby


    Yes !!!

    Happy he won... Close fight though.

    Only 21 as well :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭welkin


    Yeah it's a problem with MMA judging. Way too much credit is given to take downs and wrestling.

    He did nothing on top and Uriah reversed most of the time.

    Thought the ref might have stopped it in round 3 too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    welkin wrote: »
    Thought hall did enough there.

    Kelvin did nothing besides take downs.

    Don't agree with that at all. He pushed Hall back for the whole fight and landed a lot more strikes. I was surprised that it was even a split, he won all three rounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Mr Blobby


    Hall lost that fight because of the first round.

    Overall I thought Kevin done enough. He pushed the pace, got some good takedowns... I do though think he looked gassed in the third round.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭welkin


    Thought that was a10-8 round but the judges never award them


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭welkin


    Faber must be the best pound for pound non-title.holder!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,925 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    nino1 wrote: »
    Why is bubba v Gilbert on the main card?

    I hope to god he's not on the next main card
    He did nothing to deserve a main card slot at all and
    he still hasnt beat anybody


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,644 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Tate Zingano was a helluva fight. Dana must be delighted as the only two female bouts so far have been absolute wars. Tate's standup is terrible though. She punches like Tank Abbott


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Tate was complaining about the stoppage being too early.

    I had no problem with the stoppage at all, girl ate alot of knees and her face was a mess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    Glad hall got beaten, looked like he believed his own hype and wasnt taking the fight seriously. He will get a contract anyway


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