Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

end of the road · 23-11-2019 8:46pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Shorter show with better guests is the answer.

that means something else to fill airtime, which might actually work out more expensive over all, but which may bring in less viewership.
a couple of hours of a chat show with mostly fluff and the odd good guest on the other hand is probably cheap enough over all, and the show apparently does get decent ratings.

Boggles · 23-11-2019 8:49pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Another thing I have noticed with the chatshows on RTE is they put the rubbish guests on first and expect people to wait around until the good guest(s) are put on last.

That's literally ever talk show, everywhere.

It's done for a reason.

tayto lover · 23-11-2019 10:05pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Shorter show with better guests is the answer.

And better host who actually listens to the answers.

Santan · 26-11-2019 7:52pm

Jesus christ who ever created the rte player should be brought out the back and beaten with a keyboard and throw in the person who signed off on paying for it, what a terrible piece of programming.

foxy farmer · 27-11-2019 11:41am

Norton is backing Tubridy. Says he should get double the pay.

https://www-irishmirror-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/graham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishmirror.ie%2Fshowbiz%2Firish-showbiz%2Fgraham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337

sligojoek · 27-11-2019 11:59am

foxy farmer wrote: »

Norton is backing Tubridy. Says he should get double the pay.

https://www-irishmirror-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/graham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishmirror.ie%2Fshowbiz%2Firish-showbiz%2Fgraham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337

Did they lift that story off Waterford Whispers?

27-11-2019 12:02pm

foxy farmer wrote: »

Norton is backing Tubridy. Says he should get double the pay.

https://www-irishmirror-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/graham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishmirror.ie%2Fshowbiz%2Firish-showbiz%2Fgraham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337

Norton regrets not being in Ireland for Gays passing. You'd swear he was in out Mongolia, not England.

I'd say that article is a complete work of fiction. It is the mirror after all.

Brendan Bendar · 27-11-2019 3:27pm

foxy farmer wrote: »

Norton is backing Tubridy. Says he should get double the pay.

https://www-irishmirror-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/graham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishmirror.ie%2Fshowbiz%2Firish-showbiz%2Fgraham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337

Pure fcukery, the only person who can say that Tubridy is worth 2 mill. is someone who will pay him that.

Don’t think there are too many of those around.

Scott Tenorman · 27-11-2019 5:43pm

foxy farmer wrote: »

Norton is backing Tubridy. Says he should get double the pay.

https://www-irishmirror-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/graham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishmirror.ie%2Fshowbiz%2Firish-showbiz%2Fgraham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337

Graham Norton wrote:

"Is he worth the money? I think he’s worth double the money!

"He has to be good if he’s doing the job and remember someone hired him for that job."

Brilliant, i'm going into my boss in the morning & asking him to double my pay. Well, i have to be good if i'm doing the job and remember he hired me

tayto lover · 27-11-2019 5:49pm

foxy farmer wrote: »

Norton is backing Tubridy. Says he should get double the pay.

https://www-irishmirror-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/graham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishmirror.ie%2Fshowbiz%2Firish-showbiz%2Fgraham-norton-sympathises-ryan-tubridy-20962337

Isn’t Tubridy only in RTÉ because he had a relative high up in the organization.

AndyBoBandy · 27-11-2019 6:09pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Isn’t Tubridy only in RTÉ because he had a relative high up in the organization.

Thats pretty much how they are all in there.....

James Brown · 27-11-2019 6:58pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Isn’t Tubridy only in RTÉ because he had a relative high up in the organization.

His Grandfather was the Controller general. His Ma would be on as a social commentator at various RTE dos. I think there's an Eamonn Andrews link there. I'm sure there's more.

Ryan is the nephew of former MEP Niall Andrews and former government minister David Andrews. He is the grandson of TD Sea¡n Tubridy, the cousin of Fianna Fáil TDs Barry Andrews and Chris Andrews and was himself a member of gra Fianna Fail

So worked hard over many years of slog to be gifted his review slots on radio and television when he was a child....

ShamNNspace · 27-11-2019 7:08pm

Is he not the grandson of Todd Andrews?? An ex chairman of the rte authority

AndyBoBandy · 28-11-2019 9:10pm

Tonight on RTÉ 2 (in the Primetime slot)

The Great British Bake Off

S06E04

First broadcast on August 26th 2015

jelutong · 28-11-2019 10:49pm

It’s a bit stale methinks.

fritzelly · 28-11-2019 11:11pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Tonight on RTÉ 2 (in the Primetime slot)

The Great British Bake Off

S06E04

First broadcast on August 26th 2015

Does RTE2 have a primetime, thought the only thing they showed was repeats/old series

amadangomor · 29-11-2019 8:34am

So great they have gone down the totally commercial route and basically have the Toy show sponsored by Frozen/Disney in disguise as a "theme". We pay them the TV licence to afford to broadcast and we still have to put up with this commercialisation. With multiple income streams they are still running RTE into the ground! Incompetent Twats.

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/1129/1095780-something-elsa-late-late-toy-show-is-frozen-this-year/

Boggles · 29-11-2019 9:15am

amadangomor wrote: »

So great they have gone down the totally commercial route and basically have the Toy show sponsored by Frozen/Disney in disguise as a "theme". We pay them the TV licence to afford to broadcast and we still have to put up with this commercialisation. With multiple income streams they are still running RTE into the ground! Incompetent Twats.

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/1129/1095780-something-elsa-late-late-toy-show-is-frozen-this-year/

The Toy Show, commercial. Surely not?

:pac:

The Late Late Show · 29-11-2019 3:29pm

The salaries Ryan Tubridy and the rest of them are on is disgusting. And let us not leave Pat Kenny and his near 1m post tax salary off the hook. Gone but not forgotten. While people are homeless and those who have homes are often crucified with bills, these guys are earning in a week after tax what most Irish people earn in a year before tax. And for what? Presenting chat shows with a massive team of researchers behind them.

NO ONE is worth the type of money any of these are earning. Especially when it is only for 20 hours and less a week. There are highly qualified people and people providing essential services on way less. Even politicians (love them or hate them, but they work longer hours than RTE's elite and we can vote them out) earn less. Even the Taoiseach and President earn less than Tubridy or in the past (probably still in his other role in RTE's cousin media outlets) Kenny. Even world leaders like US president Obama and UK PM Johnson earn less. It is time to get REAL on what these over-paid in the extreme presents earn for the hours they do.

end of the road · 29-11-2019 3:47pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

The salaries Ryan Tubridy and the rest of them are on is disgusting. And let us not leave Pat Kenny and his near 1m post tax salary off the hook. Gone but not forgotten. While people are homeless and those who have homes are often crucified with bills, these guys are earning in a week after tax what most Irish people earn in a year before tax. And for what? Presenting chat shows with a massive team of researchers behind them.

NO ONE is worth the type of money any of these are earning. Especially when it is only for 20 hours and less a week. There are highly qualified people and people providing essential services on way less. Even politicians (love them or hate them, but they work longer hours than RTE's elite and we can vote them out) earn less. Even the Taoiseach and President earn less than Tubridy or in the past (probably still in his other role in RTE's cousin media outlets) Kenny. Even world leaders like US president Obama and UK PM Johnson earn less. It is time to get REAL on what these over-paid in the extreme presents earn for the hours they do.

if no one is worth the type of money the high earners in rte get then nobody would ever get such a wage in any job or even more, it's as simple as that.
there is absolutely nothing "disgusting" about the salaries tubberty etc get, yes they are rather high, but sometimes in broadcasting people earn high wages and people are just going to have to come to terms with that.
people being homeless and home owners having high costs along with everyone else is a completely separate issue which would not change even if the high earners in rte didn't even get paid at all.

The Late Late Show · 29-11-2019 3:47pm

amadangomor wrote: »

So great they have gone down the totally commercial route and basically have the Toy show sponsored by Frozen/Disney in disguise as a "theme". We pay them the TV licence to afford to broadcast and we still have to put up with this commercialisation. With multiple income streams they are still running RTE into the ground! Incompetent Twats.

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/1129/1095780-something-elsa-late-late-toy-show-is-frozen-this-year/

If it is the case that Disney are sponsoring Tubridy's Toy Show this year and/or other years (or other big companies sponsor the themes other years), this is more of it. Vast amounts of money go into RTE from various sources and they still are officially 'poor'.

tayto lover · 29-11-2019 3:59pm

Blanket coverage of the Toy Show all week.
You couldn’t fail to know that it’s on.
Annoy your head with it.

It’s only a feckin toy show. They’ll probably repeat it too as it’s cheap to stage.

AndyBoBandy · 29-11-2019 5:38pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Blanket coverage of the Toy Show all week.
You couldn’t fail to know that it’s on.
Annoy your head with it.

It’s only a feckin toy show. They’ll probably repeat it too as it’s cheap to stage.

And apparently 'everyone' is going to watch it, even people that don't watch the Late Late Show, they always make the exception for the toy show!!

Yeah, I don't watch the Late Late, and I won't be watching the toy show tonight. It's on long past juniors bedtime, and I'd never subject myself or the OH to almost 3 hours of RTE showing us how 'great' and 'mad craic' they are.

I watched as a kid myself when it was Gay Byrne, and they are Christmas memories I'd rather not tarnish with Tubbers O'MadCraic

Anyone who checks out Joe.ie the odd time to see what movies are on that night or whatever would be best advised to stay away from the site for the next week at least, because you know there's going to be at least 2-3 'planted' stories a day about how much gas craic the toy show was, and isn't Tubbers great all the same, because that kid who's dad is in the army jumped out of a big box or whatever....

ShamNNspace · 29-11-2019 7:12pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

And apparently 'everyone' is going to watch it, even people that don't watch the Late Late Show, they always make the exception for the toy show!!

Yeah, I don't watch the Late Late, and I won't be watching the toy show tonight. It's on long past juniors bedtime, and I'd never subject myself or the OH to almost 3 hours of RTE showing us how 'great' and 'mad craic' they are.

I watched as a kid myself when it was Gay Byrne, and they are Christmas memories I'd rather not tarnish with Tubbers O'MadCraic

Anyone who checks out Joe.ie the odd time to see what movies are on that night or whatever would be best advised to stay away from the site for the next week at least, because you know there's going to be at least 2-3 'planted' stories a day about how much gas craic the toy show was, and isn't Tubbers great all the same, because that kid who's dad is in the army jumped out of a big box or whatever....

It's repeated on Sunday afternoon for you so don't worry about missing it tonight

AndyBoBandy · 29-11-2019 7:41pm

ShamNNspace wrote: »

It's repeated on Sunday afternoon for you so don't worry about missing it tonight

I look forward to missing it on Sunday afternoon as well then..

retalivity · 30-11-2019 12:21am

Fcuk rte, fcuk the toy show, fcuk tubs, etc. I was in the pub earlier, clean forgot it was on tonight til someone mentioned it.

I dont ever remember it being on in november? The cynic on me says its a byproduct of the early onset of xmas, the bigger cynic says its to tie in with black friday, maximise spend/advertising yadayada etc...

deisedevil · 30-11-2019 12:30am

end of the road wrote: »

if no one is worth the type of money the high earners in rte get then nobody would ever get such a wage in any job or even more, it's as simple as that.
there is absolutely nothing "disgusting" about the salaries tubberty etc get, yes they are rather high, but sometimes in broadcasting people earn high wages and people are just going to have to come to terms with that.
people being homeless and home owners having high costs along with everyone else is a completely separate issue which would not change even if the high earners in rte didn't even get paid at all.

If Graham Norton was presenting the late late and earning Tubridys wages I'd be saying it was a pure bargain. Tubridy however is certainly not value for money. He's stealing a living. That's what most people have such a problem with. We are not getting value for money for our licence fee.

The J Stands for Jay · 30-11-2019 12:46am

Have they let a few transition year students operate the cameras tonight. Getting motion sickness from some issues of this.

end of the road · 30-11-2019 12:53am

deisedevil wrote: »

If Graham Norton was presenting the late late and earning Tubridys wages I'd be saying it was a pure bargain. Tubridy however is certainly not value for money. He's stealing a living. That's what most people have such a problem with. We are not getting value for money for our licence fee.

value for money means different things to different people, and when it comes to rte, they are not going to be able to deliver such because of the varying opinions in relation to everything it does.
tbh i would also think Graham Norton would be poor value for money, as he hasn't been great since his early years on channel 4, but maybe that is down to the times and the perpetually offended, rather then his presenting abilities.
i don't rate tubridy myself, and he may be stealing a living, but by the looks of things, many seem to rate him, and i would think that in turn he must be bringing in decent revenue of some sort, but who knows.

emo72 · 30-11-2019 1:04am

Tubridy comes across as very insincere. He's alien to me.

Elmo · 30-11-2019 2:57am

emo72 wrote: »

Tubridy comes across as very insincere. He's alien to me.

Yeah I am surprised by the twitteraty tonight. Oh he’s so good with the children.

From the sounds of Twitter it’s a children’s version of the main show, misery dressed as entertainment.

randomspud · 30-11-2019 3:02am

Elmo wrote: »

From the sounds of Twitter it’s a children’s version of the main show, misery dressed as entertainment.

It's a 2 hour long toy advert directed at children.

What were you expecting? Why would anyone but children and their parents watch this utter ****e?

Do you normally put on RTE Junior to get your news headlines?

Elmo · 30-11-2019 11:40am

randomspud wrote: »

It's a 2 hour long toy advert directed at children.

What were you expecting? Why would anyone but children and their parents watch this utter ****e?

Do you normally put on RTE Junior to get your news headlines?

1. What that’s not very public service?
2. I wasn’t expecting misery dressed up as entertainment (didn’t watch just saw it from a Twitter distance)
3. Always watch News2Day, but what has that to do with my post? It’s not like I consider TLLS news and current affairs. (I don’t watch News2Day!)

elperello · 30-11-2019 1:39pm

Elmo wrote: »

Yeah I am surprised by the twitteraty tonight. Oh he’s so good with the children.

From the sounds of Twitter it’s a children’s version of the main show, misery dressed as entertainment.

So you are offering criticism of a TV show you didn't see but read tweets about?

Elmo · 30-11-2019 2:13pm

elperello wrote: »

So you are offering criticism of a TV show you didn't see but read tweets about?

It’s a general criticism of a show I’ve watched most years. It is overhyped & the presenter is overrated.

Of the tweets, with videos which I watched, it seemed the kids were brought on to have a sob story and to bring a tear to your eye, this is typical of most RTÉ chat shows, as I said misery dressed up as entertainment.

Also I am not criticizing the children or any guests on such shows, TBH I think the children were excellent particularly considering most of them had been in RTÉ since 12pm that day.

Boggles · 30-11-2019 2:14pm

Elmo wrote: »

It’s a general criticism of a show I’ve watched most years. It is overhyped & the presenter is overrated.
.

Turbidy?

Like fúck he is, he is probably the most hated presenter on RTE.

Elmo · 30-11-2019 2:15pm

Boggles wrote: »

Turbidy?

Like fúck he is, he is probably the most hated presenter on RTE.

Really not last night, your hear those that don’t like him and RTÉ certainly overrate him!

elperello · 30-11-2019 2:23pm

Elmo wrote: »

It’s a general criticism of a show I’ve watched most years. It is overhyped & the presenter is overrated.

Of the tweets, with videos which I watched, it seemed the kids were brought on to have a sob story and to bring a tear to your eye, this is typical of most RTÉ chat shows, as I said misery dressed up as entertainment.

Also I am not criticizing the children or any guests on such shows, TBH I think the children were excellent particularly considering most of them had been in RTÉ since 12pm that day.

I think one has to actually watch a TV show to get it all in context rather than base an opinion on tweets and clips.

I accept that makes me old fashioned but there you are.

I don't get the current fad for referring to any item on TV that is based on the sadder side of life as "misery".

As you say fair play to the kids, it's their gig anyway.

tayto lover · 30-11-2019 2:38pm

Watched it with the grandkids. A bit too much of the sad stuff for my liking.
Not much about the toy makers who maybe could have done with a bit of publicity which might have generated a bit of trade for them.

Overall the children enjoyed it but it was mainly aimed at enhancing Tubridy’s reputation imo.

Boggles · 30-11-2019 2:43pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Not much about the toy makers who maybe could have done with a bit of publicity

Chinese Children?

Elmo · 30-11-2019 3:06pm

elperello wrote: »

I think one has to actually watch a TV show to get it all in context rather than base an opinion on tweets and clips.

I accept that makes me old fashioned but there you are.

I don't get the current fad for referring to any item on TV that is based on the sadder side of life as "misery".

As you say fair play to the kids, it's their gig anyway.

So wait your telling me that me by not watching one episode last night, but having grown up with the toy show, and seen it on multiple occasions as an adult, I can’t express an opinion on some of the clips that I have seen since? Also all of the tweets that I saw were clearly amazed by the show and were very positive.

But you can take my misery comment out of context?

Let me restate: like most Irish TV chat show the toy show seems to have ultimately become misery dressed as entertainment.

Again that criticism is not on the children, who as I say were in RTÉ since 12 that day, or any other guests that appear on TLLS or the Ray D’Arcy Show to tell their stories.

elperello · 30-11-2019 3:43pm

Elmo wrote: »

So wait your telling me that me by not watching one episode last night, but having grown up with the toy show, and seen it on multiple occasions as an adult, I can’t express an opinion on some of the clips that I have seen since? Also all of the tweets that I saw were clearly amazed by the show and were very positive.

But you can take my misery comment out of context?

Let me restate: like most Irish TV chat show the toy show seems to have ultimately become misery dressed as entertainment.

Again that criticism is not on the children, who as I say were in RTÉ since 12 that day, or any other guests that appear on TLLS or the Ray D’Arcy Show to tell their stories.

Just to make this completely clear you are of course entitled to express an opinion.
Different points of view are what makes this place interesting.
However in taking on board your opinion I will balance it with the knowledge that you didn't actually watch the show.

I didn't mean to take your "misery" comment out of context.

I feel that sadder topics are part of life. People who have had to deal with tragedy and adversity have a lot to teach us about life. If it is ok for those people to tell their stories it is ok for RTE to facilitate them.

Again as I said, fair play to the kids.

Shefwedfan · 30-11-2019 4:25pm

Elmo wrote: »

Yeah I am surprised by the twitteraty tonight. Oh he’s so good with the children.

From the sounds of Twitter it’s a children’s version of the main show, misery dressed as entertainment.

Does Twitter make sounds now?

Maybe its the sound of a load of gobs**ts who have no life

:p:p:p

P.S. Im an influencer :eek:

ShamNNspace · 30-11-2019 7:29pm

Shefwedfan · 30-11-2019 7:37pm

What is annoying, kids want to watch you show so stuck on RTÉ player On tv....4 advertisements later, it finally comes on all blurry but finally clears up

The 2-3 mins of advertisement where perfect....the 2 year old screaming the house down waiting for it to go off wasn’t good

Shefwedfan · 30-11-2019 7:43pm

F**king piece of sh*t works for 5 mins....then stops.....then back to 2-3 mins of the same f**king ads

Elmo · 30-11-2019 7:47pm

elperello wrote: »

I feel that sadder topics are part of life. People who have had to deal with tragedy and adversity have a lot to teach us about life. If it is ok for those people to tell their stories it is ok for RTE to facilitate them.

I agree but that’s also my point that both chat shows have become less about entertainment and more about tragedy, and that goes for most other Irish chat shows, I am not saying that they shouldn’t do this I am saying that this is what they have become.

elperello · 30-11-2019 11:32pm

Elmo wrote: »

I agree but that’s also my point that both chat shows have become less about entertainment and more about tragedy, and that goes for most other Irish chat shows, I am not saying that they shouldn’t do this I am saying that this is what they have become.

I guess there is a balance and that is tricky to find
I think it is important that the sadness in peoples lives is not exploited or turned into entertainment.

fritzelly · 30-11-2019 11:47pm

elperello wrote: »

I guess there is a balance and that is tricky to find
I think it is important that the sadness in peoples lives is not exploited or turned into entertainment.

LLS and various other shows on RTE think the misery is the entertainment that people want, not that they ever asked the people
There is a time and place for the misery slots and prime time tv is not it
RTÉ have this constant flailing attitude towards entertainment and that everyone wants to endure it, no we don't

I think one of the main reasons the lls is like it is its because no stars want to be on the show yet they would be queueing up to be on the gns because...

amadangomor · 01-12-2019 12:03am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

F**king piece of sh*t works for 5 mins....then stops.....then back to 2-3 mins of the same f**king ads

I don't have an aerial, just a satellite dish for the English channels so when there is the occasional thing I want to watch live on RTE I try the player in the hope it might be fixed since the last time I tried.

The last Ireland football game I gave up and had to find a dodgy stream which worked perfectly! Some lad with a PC in his bedroom can do better than a company with a multi million budget says it all! I really resent paying the 160 quid.

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