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Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    The Zappi unit just looks very well when it’s installed


  • Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭darrenheaphy


    probably just drilled at an angle.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    xboxdad wrote: »
    Very neat! How did you manage not to have any trunking from the meter box into the charger?

    drilled from inside one box to the other box so the cable is inside the wall.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Received €600 grant today, just over 9 weeks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Buckmark1


    xboxdad wrote: »
    I only contacted Nigel Daly so far, but all I got was a promise he'd respond. I guess he has a too good of a reputation at this point and is very busy.

    I don't want to go with someone random who has no reputation to lose in case they mess up.

    Is there a good list of reputable installers you can point me to (I live in Dublin)?

    In Dublin I used Ollie Dunne electrics in Palmerston for my installation . All paperwork etc completed promptly

    https://m.facebook.com/dunneelec/


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 eamon_l


    eoferrall wrote: »
    this is my external install

    I went for a pedestal installation as I have external wall insulation and wanted as few holes as possible on it


  • Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭darrenheaphy


    eamon_l wrote: »
    I went for a pedestal installation as I have external wall insulation and wanted as few holes as possible on it

    That's very tidy, did you have the pedestal prepared in advance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 eamon_l


    That's very tidy, did you have the pedestal prepared in advance?

    Yes. The builder built it as part of the renovation. Ran the SWA before the external insulation too so no wires showing at all. Very happy with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭NTC


    stimpson wrote: »
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gael23 View Post
    Where can a Zappi be purchased in Ireland? Can only find UK sources

    ElectricAutos in Naas


    Is there any other suppliers? And does anyone know if i get the chargers from the UK, can i use that in the claim for the E600 grant?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 eamon_l


    NTC wrote: »
    Is there any other suppliers? And does anyone know if i get the chargers from the UK, can i use that in the claim for the E600 grant?

    Thanks

    I purchased mine direct from the supplier. Got the electrician doing my extension to install it. The SEAI accepted my grant claim. Still waiting for payment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Folks,

    my fusebox is in the utility, there is already an established route out the side wall (where we have taken power to a shomera). Along that wall there is a stone border.

    What i want to do is have the cable go along the stone border, ill take them out and put them back when the install is done, thus basically hiding the wire until it comes to the charge point (which im happy to have low to prevent there being too much cable on show)

    am i missing anything, can he run the cable that way or does it need to be covered in a certain way with trunking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    If I were to put a charge point away from the fusebox, would electricians generally be okay with running the cable through an attic (it's a bungalow) rather than some sort of trunking outside the house? Seems to be it would be an easier and shorter run, in addition to being invisible, through the attic than around the outside of the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    JohnC. wrote: »
    If I were to put a charge point away from the fusebox, would electricians generally be okay with running the cable through an attic (it's a bungalow) rather than some sort of trunking outside the house? Seems to be it would be an easier and shorter run, in addition to being invisible, through the attic than around the outside of the house.

    Yes! Everyone loves working in a bungalow. Far easier and nicer looking running cable through an attic than using mini trunking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 arestifamiliar


    Hi, i've been told by two electricians that my boiler or gas meter must be earth bonded, as must my hotpress. My house (20 yrs old) doesn't have earth bonding like this. They haven't been out to survey yet.

    the gas meter is a few inches from the earth point, so thats easy to address, but the hotpress is in the middle of the house and the attic is converted, that is not easy to fix without trunking or lifting boards :( There is an immersion that is earthed ...

    Anyone know if this is a hard requirement to get fixed, or can the electrician install with recommendations to fix (seai grant applied for) ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Hi, i've been told by two electricians that my boiler or gas meter must be earth bonded, as must my hotpress. My house (20 yrs old) doesn't have earth bonding like this. They haven't been out to survey yet.

    the gas meter is a few inches from the earth point, so thats easy to address, but the hotpress is in the middle of the house and the attic is converted, that is not easy to fix without trunking or lifting boards :( There is an immersion that is earthed ...

    Anyone know if this is a hard requirement to get fixed, or can the electrician install with recommendations to fix (seai grant applied for) ?

    Post to the electrical forum. You'll get a more definitive answer there, bearing in mind there are new regulations being rolled out this year.

    AFAIK, when a new circuit is being added and a cert being provided they have to ensure the rest of the wiring is up to regulation and earthing is an important part of that, so if two have already independently given you the same answer it is probably where it is at.

    Ultimately you wont get the grant unless you can get an electrician to give you a cert. The SEAI dont care about anything else other than that cert.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,877 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Hi, i've been told by two electricians that my boiler or gas meter must be earth bonded, as must my hotpress. My house (20 yrs old) doesn't have earth bonding like this. They haven't been out to survey yet.

    the gas meter is a few inches from the earth point, so thats easy to address, but the hotpress is in the middle of the house and the attic is converted, that is not easy to fix without trunking or lifting boards :( There is an immersion that is earthed ...

    Anyone know if this is a hard requirement to get fixed, or can the electrician install with recommendations to fix (seai grant applied for) ?

    This is safety. More of an issue if kitchen sink needs to be earthed, and there is none nearby.

    I think they need to earth gas at boiler, not meter, hot press immersion earth will probably do, attic is typically plumbed to hot press so running a wire following the pipes up and across is not that difficult. I doubt it is more than a couple of hours extra work. Typically these days they would also test main earth connection for the house too. I think its a simple safety update.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Guys, my mate just bought a 530e and wants a charger installed.

    No solar, no power showers etc so just wants a basic plug and charge kind of job.

    I recommended the EO Mini purely from a visual perspective.

    Whos the go to fitters now consider Nigel Daly etc are out the door and too busy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Guys, my mate just bought a 530e and wants a charger installed.

    Whos the go to fitters now consider Nigel Daly etc are out the door and too busy.

    Any electrician will do.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    KCross wrote: »
    Any electrician will do.

    I know that and that’s the route I went but he wants a supply and fit service. All in one shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Gumbo wrote: »
    I know that and that’s the route I went but he wants a supply and fit service. All in one shop.

    He's making it hard for himself so.

    He should buy it himself online with a recommendation from you and then find his friendly local spark to install a "32A outdoor socket".

    If he limits himself to "specialist EV charge point installers" he will be waiting and paying through the nose! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Gumbo wrote: »
    I know that and that’s the route I went but he wants a supply and fit service. All in one shop.

    What area of the country is he based?
    How long is he willing to wait?


  • Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    KCross wrote: »
    He's making it hard for himself so.

    He should buy it himself online with a recommendation from you and then find his friendly local spark to install a "32A outdoor socket".

    If he limits himself to "specialist EV charge point installers" he will be waiting and paying through the nose! :)

    I'm in the same situation. What puts me off when it comes to generic electricians are the stories where the inexperienced (with SEAI) installer forgets to put in the date into one of the fields on the form, or puts it into the wrong field, etc, etc, etc... And then it's a back-and-forth with SEAI for the foreseeable future :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Kramer


    xboxdad wrote: »
    I'm in the same situation. What puts me off when it comes to generic electricians are the stories where the inexperienced (with SEAI) installer forgets to put in the date into one of the fields on the form, or puts it into the wrong field, etc, etc, etc... And then it's a back-and-forth with SEAI for the foreseeable future :)

    I'd wager these stories largely eminate from the EV Charger Charge Point Install specialists.
    It's really not that hard to fill in the few resistance values, MPRN & simple details, on the documents required for the SEAI grant.

    It really implies generic electricians are volts, sorry, dolts :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,722 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I used this guy and had no complaints;

    http://powerwiseelectrical.ie/


  • Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    Kramer wrote: »
    I'd wager these stories largely eminate from the EV Charger Charge Point Install specialists.
    It's really not that hard to fill in the few resistance values, MPRN & simple details, on the documents required for the SEAI grant.

    It really implies generic electricians are volts, sorry, dolts :D.

    Actually my experience with the home charge point grant process was nothing but chaos so far (still before getting a letter of offer), so I fully believe these stories :)

    The EV purchase grant went through fast and smooth, so I'm surprised about the chaotic nature of this other process.


  • Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    What do you guys think about this?

    https://www.ohme-ev.com/

    Should I wait for this or just go ahead and get a Zappi?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Felexicon wrote: »
    What area of the country is he based?
    How long is he willing to wait?

    Dublin.
    He’s getting the EO mini fitted next week for €949. So €349 after grant refund.


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 arestifamiliar


    how bad an idea is it for me to 'fake' the bonding ? I can wire up bonding to a socket earth in a way the electrician won't notice unless they really route around and lift floor boards .... is it bad, or really bad ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Dublin.
    He’s getting the EO mini fitted next week for €949. So €349 after grant refund.

    Who did you go with in the end?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Who did you go with in the end?

    Not me.
    A friend.

    https://glenev.com/ev-home/houses/ I think.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Jesus, really being fleeced with this grant in place, I paid £150 for my charge point 3 years ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    slave1 wrote: »
    Jesus, really being fleeced with this grant in place, I paid £150 for my charge point 3 years ago

    For installation, for the hardware or both?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    slave1 wrote: »
    Jesus, really being fleeced with this grant in place, I paid £150 for my charge point 3 years ago

    I paid €200 for mine. Then paid my mate 100 to certify. Then got 600 grant from SEAI ;)


  • Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    slave1 wrote: »
    Jesus, really being fleeced with this grant in place, I paid £150 for my charge point 3 years ago

    For the unit I guess?

    I paid €450 for the unit(rolec wallbox with unit meter), and 100 to the sparks to install (a few weeks after he had just done a bit of work on the house so perhaps made a difference).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭NTC


    Anyone able to recommend an installer in Galway (Oranmore area)

    Thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    lads what if anything are people tipping the installer ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,788 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    Cyrus wrote: »
    lads what if anything are people tipping the installer ?

    Get away!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Cyrus wrote: »
    lads what if anything are people tipping the installer ?

    Tip?

    Most people don't even offer you a cup of tea!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭NBar


    Cyrus wrote: »
    lads what if anything are people tipping the installer ?

    don't touch a live wire :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭cluaindiuic


    I already got a home charger in 2017 when I bought an Ioniq. Now I'm eligible for the home grant with the eNiro. But can I avail of it given I got one before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    I already got a home charger in 2017 when I bought an Ioniq. Now I'm eligible for the home grant with the eNiro. But can I avail of it given I got one before?

    Not unless you've moved house since. One grant per MPRN. That includes availing of the free point they offered before the current grant.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Cyrus wrote: »
    lads what if anything are people tipping the installer ?

    Most of used local tradesmen so no need for a tip of any sort.
    Keeping business local and with small local firms.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I already got a home charger in 2017 when I bought an Ioniq. Now I'm eligible for the home grant with the eNiro. But can I avail of it given I got one before?

    For the cops in the forum, please look away......

    Do a change of address to your parents house.
    Apply for grant in your parents house.
    Get it installed.
    Change of address back to your own house.
    Now your parents have a subsidized charger for you to use when there and makes their house more appealing if selling :)

    Cops, come on back in now....... :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭cluaindiuic


    JohnC. wrote: »
    Not unless you've moved house since. One grant per MPRN. That includes availing of the free point they offered before the current grant.

    How long do I have to claim the grant?

    Can I put the charger elsewhere?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    How long do I have to claim the grant?

    Can I put the charger elsewhere?

    Electrician has to fit it and secure it to the property where the MPRN is concerned.
    You have to submit photos of the installed charger to SEAI.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Most of used local tradesmen so no need for a tip of any sort.
    Keeping business local and with small local firms.

    I would have but my normal.sparks quoted me about 600 quid more than electric Ireland !


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Cyrus wrote: »
    I would have but my normal.sparks quoted me about 600 quid more than electric Ireland !

    When is he fitting?
    It’s a weird one as he could probably get into trouble for accepting the “tip”. He is contracted by a semi state company so it could go against the code of ethics etc

    I know I can’t even accept a bottle of wine at Christmas from my “clients” as all it takes is one for me to loose my job.

    Suss him out on the day. Offer him all the tea he needs and see if you get a vibe from him that €20 for a bottle of Prosecco for his other half won’t go astray :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Gumbo wrote: »
    When is he fitting?
    It’s a weird one as he could probably get into trouble for accepting the “tip”. He is contracted by a semi state company so it could go against the code of ethics etc

    I know I can’t even accept a bottle of wine at Christmas from my “clients” as all it takes is one for me to loose my job.

    Suss him out on the day. Offer him all the tea he needs and see if you get a vibe from him that €20 for a bottle of Prosecco for his other half won’t go astray :)

    Cool thanks makes sense, normally if I have someone around the house doing something and they do a good job I like to give them something

    I'll see how he goes !


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Gargled


    Looking at getting the EO Mini Pro - but it's ~ €300 more than the regular EO Mini. Is that right? Is it really worth the extra money? I have a BMW phev so I can control most of the charging directly from the car's app


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Barney224


    can anyone recommend a reliable home chargepoint company in Meath?


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