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United People, It's Time For Ruddy Change!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Eggonyerface


    A triple well covered expert in tin roofing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    That wedding suit is pure Dunnes Stores trainee manager.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Moving on...

    I see, with the locals looming in May, that the Rudd has embarked on posts bemoaning the literature that has begun dropping through his (landlord's) letterbox.
    At local level in the last week I have gained through my door, leaflets from Fianna Fail, Labour and more. At national level through social media, I have seen others from other locations popping up and introducing themselves...

    ...It's time to see the bigger picture. It's time for better.
    .
    #Timeforbetter #UnitedPeople

    I can't help but notice a subtext here-despite his recent legal law triumphs, speaking ever more further to Dail elected, and radio media interview appearance on 96FM, The Founder would appear not be putting his own name forward this time?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The Founder would appear not be putting his own name forward this time?
    Jeff do some proper work? You're having a laugh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    Jeff do some proper work? You're having a laugh!

    If he did get elected to the council .. what would his pay be? How would that affect his social welfare payments ? Would he be at a disadvantage ? Or would he actually have to do some work to get money from the state ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭eldamo


    whippet wrote: »
    If he did get elected to the council .. what would his pay be? How would that affect his social welfare payments ? Would he be at a disadvantage ? Or would he actually have to do some work to get money from the state ?

    He literally couldn't afford to accept the job if elected.
    The system really is stacked against him.

    It's a junior ministry or bust for old jeff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The 16k council salary would allow you to claim FIS/WFP even with one kid, as well as the majority of other benefits - rent allowance, medical card and so on. No Christmas extra payment or fuel allowance though!

    Anything above the 16k salary is expenses, even if it is actually possible to make a negligible "profit" on mileage if you do a fair bit - but you'd want to be appointed to a ETB board or something to get enough. Average payments to councillors are about 27k I think but you would entail significant motoring costs to be able to claim that much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    The Rudd is Gofundmeing again.

    He needs money for many pole posters and radio space buy, apparently.

    Predictably, most of his Facebook warriors have run for the hills at the mere mention of money, but someone must be contributing. €320 as I type.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    UnitedPeople has not taken the step to automatic drain taxpayer money just because it also exists



    Unlike its founder and leader then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Parties need to get 2% of the national vote in a General Election (and/or TDs or Senators) to get taxpayer funding - which they wouldn't get on a cold day in hell, but Renua did from their multiple known names (who all failed to get elected of course).

    Does he think that parties can just ask for funding?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    L1011 wrote: »
    Parties need to get 2% of the national vote in a General Election (and/or TDs or Senators) to get taxpayer funding - which they wouldn't get on a cold day in hell, but Renua did from their multiple known names (who all failed to get elected of course).

    Does he think that parties can just ask for funding?

    He knows.

    But he also knows that the idiots who follow him probably don’t, and will lap it up like they lap up all the other lies he peddles as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    He had another article published in the Drogheda Leader (a publication which more or less takes contributions from anyone) .. the article was about how Jeff is minding the country and ensuring the border doesn’t become a radioactive dump.

    He seems to want to put the notion out there that he discovered this secret plot by the British government .. but as we know it’s be covered in all the media (even though we are not meant to kop this) .. and the site on the boarder is one of about 50 all over the Uk which are being looked at.

    Fortunately I don’t think Jeff will need to lie down in front of UK registered trucks on the road around Newry anytime soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,014 ✭✭✭furiousox


    He's very pleased with himself this evening.
    He thinks social media is great, apart from boards which is full of official fine gael backed trolls, obviously.

    How's the job hunting going Jeff?


    C0CvdkFWgAAbCHY.jpg:large

    CPL 593H



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    My mam said to me over a decade ago, tell the truth and you will have far less to look out for, over your shoulder. I live by it.

    Our survey determined that THAT was a lie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    I love the way he’s calling it censorship the fact that the small changes to the job path thing wasn’t front and centre on the 6one news.

    The reality is .. it’s of shag all significance in the grand scheme of things .. it will only affect a few die hard long term unemployed and with the problems in the HSE .. nurses strike ... brexit and the children’s hospital there just isn’t space for a small insignificant Dail debate


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The reason it isn't news is that anyone who actually wants a job can get one, yet we're still paying out large cash and non-cash benefits to people who are pretending* to look for work but don't want a job.

    Would be more honest if we introduced "Waster's Allowance" for the likes of Jeffrey


    * doubt Geoffrey is even pretending, and wtf name is that for an Irish person anyway.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,014 ✭✭✭furiousox


    It's a great day for Jeff and all other non-jobseeking jobseekers.

    Free once again to claim benefits from the corrupt state they constantly bitch about.

    No longer will they be harassed into attending meetings and forced to answer awkward questions about actively seeking employment, joining training courses etc.

    But it wasn't about that, it was about privacy and peoples personal details being passed on to a third party.

    Only fine gael deliberate placed government shill anonymous keyboard coward warrior would think otherwise.

    CPL 593H



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    The Rudd is Gofundmeing again.

    He needs money for many pole posters and radio space buy, apparently.

    Predictably, most of his Facebook warriors have run for the hills at the mere mention of money, but someone must be contributing. €320 as I type.

    That begging bowl cover note is pure gold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Another issue - political parties can't advertise on radio anyway!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    i recently came upon these words of (debatable) wisdom from The Rudd, from his often painstakingly reworked corner of the world wide web,
    The previous Rudd site was visited by family, friends and even by a twisted few out to use what they could find on it and try put something/anything to later use against myself.

    Say it isn't so, Jeffrey! If you put yourself forward, and can be plain simple prove empirical shown to be telling lies, then you, as with anyone else who puts themselves forward, should surely be able to hold yourself accountable and defend your position? No?

    While mining the motherlode of Ruddish on that very site, i have also gathered that he indeed intends to run in May. What fun lies ahead! For now, let us revel in his meanderings.
    Humans are at base level, is a series of atomic structures which when combined, are a production of life forms in many shapes and sizes. Even then, due to chaos theory and other reasons, nature produces genetic aberrations - in other words occasional errors. In other words, to err is human - even at genetic level. If we can accept this then we should be able to accept and understand that we make mistakes. It's in the very nature of the beast we are.

    Darwin was only an amateur compared to this fella.
    How many Rudd children are there?
    There are six children - seven if you believe Joanne that her husband is a big kid also at times. She could be right! Ha-ha.

    Ahaha! That's a good one Jeff! Rolling in the aisles, we are!
    Dangerous Lesions.

    As a result of dangerous liaisons, mayhap?
    I am not one to back down - and as some have learned, the more I'm tried to be pushed, the harder I push back in reaction. I often do what's not expected and think outside the box of counter-action.

    The only way you'd surprise me is by tying a knot in it and getting a job, Jeff, old son.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Slideways


    I just tried to read up on this Jeff Rudd bloke on wiki. It seems there is no page for him and the United People party off is lacking in lots of detail..


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Slideways wrote: »
    I just tried to read up on this Jeff Rudd bloke on wiki. It seems there is no page for him and the United People party off is lacking in lots of detail..


    He might still be banned from making Wiki edits. They'd to block him back in the DDI days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    he has spent so much time online in the last decade that it would be impossible to keep up with him. 30k odd posts here before getting banned - wikipedia even had to ban him ... a million facebook pages and groups ... a clatter of political and personal webpages - countless thousands of pages of 'stuff' that was always supposed to be published (but never actually did) .... he legal qualifications, springboard marketing course, IT teacher training, karate, photography , protesting .... how he finds time to seek work while on job seekers amazes me .. but for some reason this dictatorship of a state we live in manage to house, feed, heat, educate and provide for himself, his wife and 6 children !


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    whippet wrote: »
    he has spent so much time online in the last decade that it would be impossible to keep up with him. 30k odd posts here before getting banned - wikipedia even had to ban him ... a million facebook pages and groups ... a clatter of political and personal webpages - countless thousands of pages of 'stuff' that was always supposed to be published (but never actually did)
    ...and yet none of it was coherent!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Still no support for the authorised agent for Ben Gilroy* ( McKenzie for hire) since his return to the Joy.


    You're better than that Jefferson.












    *Not a corporation.

    Whatever that means...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    Jeff burned all those bridges when he left DDI with over 700 members to set up United People.

    The promised book on the split never materialised from Jeff ... we will never really know what happened


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    I met this Jeff lad one time. Seemed like a decent enough lad except a bit paranoid. But I have seen these kind of splits time and time again in all sorts of organisations

    Its usually the cause of one leader not being able to allow members a certain amount of wiggle room and self determination. They dig in too far, insist too much on having it their way, get too caught up in petty squabbles and lose sight of the overall goal as a result. A good leader can see past that and realises how shakey the ground beneath him really is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭washiskin


    I met this Jeff lad one time. Seemed like a decent enough lad except a bit paranoid. But I have seen these kind of splits time and time again in all sorts of organisations

    Its usually the cause of one leader not being able to allow members a certain amount of wiggle room and self determination. They dig in too far, insist too much on having it their way, get too caught up in petty squabbles and lose sight of the overall goal as a result. A good leader can see past that and realises how shakey the ground beneath him really is.

    Jeff used personal information about the health of a member of UP to undermine and discredit them during the big split. That's not paranoia or control issues, that's just pure spite. No-one with an iota of decency would do that to someone in order to score petty points.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    First time in ages that I wandered over to his site.
    After a few moments, a subscription dialog appears. No sign of a data privacy policy at all.
    How could this be, given that Jeff is such an expert in legal law?

    He does seem to have a page for "GDPR – Request personal data" which, although broken, I suspect is an article complaining about something or other rather than the required notification about what he is doing with my personal data as he collects it.
    Iconically, the first noticable link on that page is titled "ACCOUNTABILITY Public Services Card – Why The Secrecy?" and gives out about the nasty government are secretly colledcting peoples data (a quick glance through it shows that it is based on inaccurate information although I really shouldn't be surprised!).

    So Jeff, why no data protection policy?
    By visiting your website, you have taken my personal data.
    What are you doing with *my* data and why are you flouting an EU directive?
    What are your procedures for me to make a personal data request under GDPR?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    Jeff has fallen for another one of the satirical news sites !! A headline about social welfare staff striking to get pay parity with social welfare recipients!! Jeffs band of idiot followers were quick off the mark to dismiss their claim .... what total plank


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Rudd’s website looks like it was designed by a drunk Stephen Hawking circa 1997.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Rudd is about as far from decent as it gets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Did any of the town hall meetings ever occur?

    He promised to visit every county.

    If he ever wants to come to North Tipp I can organise a room and a few sandwiches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    washiskin wrote: »
    Jeff used personal information about the health of a member of UP to undermine and discredit them during the big split. That's not paranoia or control issues, that's just pure spite. No-one with an iota of decency would do that to someone in order to score petty points.


    Thats a new one on me. I didn't follow the whole saga. Any more info on it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭washiskin


    I don't know if anyone has screenshots of some of the exchanges that took place at the time but suffice to say people learned not to tell him anything they cared about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,014 ✭✭✭furiousox


    He seems to be in a bit of a quandry these last few days.
    He initially claimed victory in his jobpath expose and proclaimed to his followers that they didn't need to attend any more meetings with seetec.

    Even when queried by nervous "jobseekers" he advised them that they were no longer legally obliged to attend any meetings.

    He has since backtracked and admitted that jobpath/seetec has yet to be abolished and perhaps attending meetings might be prudent after all.

    Cue a few disgruntled comments about "misleading people" and the postponement of the "being carried shoulder high through the streets of Drogheda" party. :pac:

    CPL 593H



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Anyone foolish enough to take advice from this fantasist is doomed to disappointment at best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭piplip87


    I see he is pushing the case of Gerry Tobin again. I know Gerry Tobin since I was a child. I can tell you that this man was brought to the sole office on his 18th Birthday and has not worked a day since.


    He has 10 or 11 kids and one of his scams involves dressing up like a ghost and scaring them children, so they could say they really seen a ghost, getting a priest to come to a house, bless the house etc so the council would move them to a house closer to town, and not in a council estate.

    This man spends his days fishing, drinking his older children have children younger older than Thier brothers and sisters.

    Some of his children 16+ work a bit for cash only jobs.


    This man and his wife are the definition of the entitlement culture. He lives a good life with Sky Sports, plenty of drink and lots and lots of fishing.


    Mr Rudd the people of Cavan are laughing at you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    And I thought from reading Jeff's updates that this JobPath victim has been dragged in to Seetec office's when he was on the way for job interviews and that Seetec were actively stopping him from working.

    He has had €12k a year taken from his social welfare - what was he getting before the cut - as I know the irish social welfare state never leaves people with nothing ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    furiousox wrote: »
    He seems to be in a bit of a quandry these last few days.
    He initially claimed victory in his jobpath expose and proclaimed to his followers that they didn't need to attend any more meetings with seetec.

    Even when queried by nervous "jobseekers" he advised them that they were no longer legally obliged to attend any meetings.

    He has since backtracked and admitted that jobpath/seetec has yet to be abolished and perhaps attending meetings might be prudent after all.

    Cue a few disgruntled comments about "misleading people" and the postponement of the "being carried shoulder high through the streets of Drogheda" party. :pac:

    2 hours
    5 minutes
    57 seconds

    :eek:

    Clearly the notion that brevity is the soul of wit is lost on this man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    So much effort in to avoiding work


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    There's an arrogance in not obliging your audience by being succinct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    whippet wrote: »
    So much effort in to avoiding work

    Bottom line right there.

    It would have been easier for him to retrain as a "bad back martyr".


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Jeff and the drones are complaining about an article showing the top 10% own 25% of the wealth. In a free society there's never going to be full equality, but that's actually a sign that Ireland is a more equal society than most.
    Anyone that thinks they need to "rise up" because of that is dangerous to be honest.
    I say that as someone who was never anywhere near that top 10%.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I wonder will he get on board with Gemma's new "movement"?
    She launched a new movement (as yet untitled) during the week. The details of it were lost in a shrill and kinda spooky 2 hour YouTube broadcast.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    2 hours
    5 minutes
    57 seconds

    :eek:

    Clearly the notion that brevity is the soul of wit is lost on this man.

    Comments disabled I see.

    So much for transparency. How does he ever expect to make it in politics if he's not willing to debate his ideas in the public forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    Comments disabled I see.

    So much for transparency. How does he ever expect to make it in politics if he's not willing to debate his ideas in the public forum.

    It's participatory democracy at work. Innit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    the man is like a walking Alanis Morrisette song .. he posted a link to an article with the headline 'Working to lower middle class struggling most' ... so all the while he plays the victim as a long term unemployed father of 6 ... but admitting that it is the support of his lifestyle that has the workers struggling.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Well he's up and running again for the Locals by the looks of it.

    "A Voice For Protection and Progress"
    "Experienced-Knowledged-Listened To!"

    Wha'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,014 ✭✭✭furiousox


    He's probably hoping to cash in on massive local surge recent in popularity due to his tireless work ensuring that "jobseekers" don't have to job seek.

    CPL 593H



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