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Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

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    #3692
    OmarLittle187
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 281 ✭✭OmarLittle187


    Berserker5 wrote: »
    Who's the hitman for the b gang is it RL?

    Hes meant to have did owen. PC be the local notorious hitman


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    #3693
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Berserker5 wrote: »
    Large Garda presence inside Krispy Kreme

    giphy.gif


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    #3694
    Tippsman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Tippsman


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Was there an armed Garda presence at Eoin Boylans funeral or is that unnecessary?

    Nothing anywhere about his and Wayne's funeral.
    OmarLittle187 wrote: »
    An explanation was given at the time. The proper protocols were not followed in identifying Patrick hutch as the gunman dressed as woman. The evidence gathering was tainted. Simple

    So there's 3 theories to why the detective killed himself.

    1. Evidence gathering was tainted
    2. Dutch police cracked a PGP device and evidence of payments and his help in 2 murders in Ireland.
    3. 12 names supposedly involved in regancy were given to the deceased father.

    1 is hardly a reason for a detective to kill himself.


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    #3695
    Jeff2
    Registered Users Posts: 7,003 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    40supple wrote: »
    That was his young lad who crashed the motorbike in Cabra last week and died as a result, only 19, would of been rough getting that news while in the nick.

    He’ll be looking over his shoulder when he gets out for trying to clip duckeggs lad I’d imagine, wouldn’t fancy having that hanging over me, duckegg well respected throughout the innercity & further afield

    Lights and flowers on the footpath where the lad crashed hit a car and took out a wall and gate pillar.
    Across the road at in grounds of 6 flats is a loud party outside while a woman dropped of more flowers.

    Crazy to me.


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    #3696
    OmarLittle187
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 281 ✭✭OmarLittle187


    Tippsman wrote: »
    Nothing anywhere about his and Wayne's funeral.



    So there's 3 theories to why the detective killed himself.

    1. Evidence gathering was tainted
    2. Dutch police cracked a PGP device and evidence of payments and his help in 2 murders in Ireland.
    3. 12 names supposedly involved in regancy were given to the deceased father.

    1 is hardly a reason for a detective to kill himself.

    Is there any reason for anyone to kill themselves?

    I wouldn't call humber 1 a theory, it was what was reported at the time by the media. This was all over the media when hutch was acquitted. I dont know why people have been saying no explanation if you follow the news or even this thread. Personally when I read about him being acquitted I wasnt sceptical of the suicide in the sense that it was a case of extreme importance extreme magnitude massive public attention and it all asunder due to incompetence. So what I mean is when I read about the acquittal I took it at the time that it was the gardas embarrassment/shame that drove him to suicide after realising the trial will collapse due to errors being made and protocols not being followed.


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    #3697
    1mackattack!
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭1mackattack!


    Deco Barry wrote: »
    I think it was a case of not finding DK so just take someone else and DB after running one way he then turned back and ran straight into the AK47 lads,going by the CCTV released they set a trap by sending PH and flat cap in one way to flush people out towards mago and nathan and I think DB was the only one that fell right into it.

    Whos Nathan?


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    #3698
    1mackattack!
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭1mackattack!


    OmarLittle187 wrote: »
    Hes meant to have did owen. PC be the local notorious hitman

    Whos PC?


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    #3699
    avalidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭avalidusername


    OmarLittle187 wrote: »
    An explanation was given at the time. The proper protocols were not followed in identifying Patrick hutch as the gunman dressed as woman. The evidence gathering was tainted. Simple

    I thought that was covered towards the start of the trial, it was called the "trial within a trial" if I remember correctly and they said the id(s) of Hutch by the different Gardai were safe/admissible so the trial continued.

    Going by the 3 theories Tippsman mentions (sorry I can't multiquote)

    1 seems like professional suicide for a detective to mess something up regarding evidence, if not the ID of Patrick Hutch as that was given the A-ok previously, then what else might it have been that would compromise a murder case? Maybe a demotion and public lambasting by the gardai for misdemeanors but I dunno, seems a bit extreme for a suicide.

    2 and 3 seem like professional suicide plus signing your own death warrant once the information became public. Being complicit in 2 murders by (2) or other revenge/retaliation murders by (3) would assure jail time. Definitely not easy for a detective. If only short jail time he'd be a marked man for life by all concerned who he'd crossed/helped kill associates.

    I think the full story about Det Fox won't be found out for a long long time, my main theory is that if he was either a dirty or incompetent cop, it could put a huge range of convictions in jeopardy if he was involved in them through his career, and that's a barrel of worms that the Dept of Justice don't want opened up.

    Alternately, maybe the man was just stressed over the whole situation or many situations, suicide is a weird and nasty thing for all concerned.


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    #3700
    avalidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭avalidusername


    1mackattack! wrote: »
    Whos PC?

    1mackattack! wrote: »
    Whos Nathan?

    These lads
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJ9sPYWYEA


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    #3701
    White lighting
    Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭White lighting


    avalidusername wrote: »
    These lads
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJ9sPYWYEA


    Two very dangerous men.... To your eardrums


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    #3702
    avalidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭avalidusername


    White lighting wrote: »
    Two very dangerous men.... To your eardrums

    Careful now, we don't wanna go drifting off-topic again.
    I can feel it coming in the air tonight...Oh Lord :pac:
    There's a tune in your head for the day :D


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    #3703
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Well it turns out Bomber was the kinahan associate nicked in the UK. And the 61 year old in finglas who got nicked, got a passport in his own name but with Bombers picture on it.

    I wonder what the sentence is in the UK for using a false passport?

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-independent/20191212/281986084439466&ved=2ahUKEwiftbTd8q_mAhWfURUIHXTCCzwQFjABegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2P_ay6FSb-UDHI9Cr6egW4


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    #3704
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Well it turns out Bomber was the kinahan associate nicked in the UK. And the 61 year old in finglas who got nicked, got a passport in his own name but with Bombers picture on it.

    I wonder what the sentence is in the UK for using a false passport?

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-independent/20191212/281986084439466&ved=2ahUKEwiftbTd8q_mAhWfURUIHXTCCzwQFjABegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2P_ay6FSb-UDHI9Cr6egW4

    Did Bomber not get 5 years for the stun gun? Delayed sentence?


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    #3705
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Did Bomber not get 5 years for the stun gun? Delayed sentence?

    He was arrested in prison. It's in the article I linked.


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    #3706
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    pablo128 wrote: »
    He was arrested in prison. It's in the article I linked.

    Missed that thanks


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    #3707
    Berserker5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭Berserker5


    They're certainly disrupting the kinahan supply chain

    It'll affect supply and pricing at worst but the show will go on


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    #3708
    NaDeise92
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭NaDeise92


    Berserker5 wrote: »
    Large Garda presence inside Krispy Kreme

    Give the jokes a rest lad, they are awful and absolutely pointless to this thread


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    #3709
    dinorebel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    NaDeise92 wrote: »
    Give the jokes a rest lad, they are awful and absolutely pointless to this thread

    I agree do nut post anymore


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    #3710
    Birneybau
    Registered Users Posts: 10,232 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    NaDeise92 wrote: »
    Give the jokes a rest lad, they are awful and absolutely pointless to this thread

    You should learn how to put someone on your ignore list, makes the site so much better.

    Click on their username and pick 'Add to ignore list'


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    #3711
    Berserker5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭Berserker5


    Birneybau wrote: »
    You should learn how to put someone on your ignore list, makes the site so much better.

    Click on their username and pick 'Add to ignore list'

    I'm not seeing that

    I can see 'Berserker5' but I'm not seeing the option to ignore?


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    #3712
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Berserker5 wrote: »
    I'm not seeing that

    I can see 'Berserker5' but I'm not seeing the option to ignore?

    You need to be connected to the Krispy Kreme WiFi network in order to be able to ignore yourself.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #3713
    tonc76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    try logging out and deleting your username and password


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    #3714
    Berserker5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭Berserker5


    Omackeral will be along soon to chime in


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    #3715
    Stevieluvsye
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Berserker5 wrote: »
    Omackeral will be along soon to chime in

    He's handy with his GIFS


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    #3716
    The gray bird
    Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭The gray bird


    Some amount of moaning going on here lads. Was it the travellers that rammed the garda golf


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    #3717
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    The gray bird wrote: »
    Some amount of moaning going on here lads. Was it the travellers that rammed the garda golf

    Yep. He robbed it in Newry in a burglary and put false plates on it. Drove the wrong way up the m50 as well. I'd say it was more a case of the golf ramming him tbh.


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    #3718
    Tippsman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Tippsman


    Was reading that in the emergency services forum, was that the golf r sezied from LS active.

    CAB will be on the hunt for more high power motors to sezie.


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    #3719
    Righteouswrong
    Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭Righteouswrong


    various artistes wrote: »
    It begs the question, at what stage will the Garda car parked outside leave Patsy Hutch's house?

    10 years?

    20?

    When DB and his parents are dead?

    With so many people under threat why was he seemingly
    the only one allocated full time protection?

    That round the clock protection gone


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    #3720
    Righteouswrong
    Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭Righteouswrong


    various artistes wrote: »
    It begs the question, at what stage will the Garda car parked outside leave Patsy Hutch's house?

    10 years?

    20?

    When DB and his parents are dead?

    With so many people under threat why was he seemingly the only one allocated full time protection?

    That round the clock Garda unit is gone now


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    #3721
    Honest rob
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭Honest rob


    Did yous hear about the 2 boys that got cut up in finglas village yesterday supposed to be connected to flashy


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