Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

Ernie Ryan · 11-12-2019 6:49pm

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/major-kinahan-crime-figure-among-four-arrested-in-ireland-uk-operation-969844.html?__twitter_impression=true

Wonder who the 4th guy was..

spider baby 172 · 11-12-2019 6:53pm

Tippsman wrote: »

Apparently money invested with cancer wasn't been paid back, which started it all.

Spanish police gave cancer a description of shooter and of koks car used which the kinahans were minding

Arranged punishment shooting for shooting Moore, all the hallmarks of a lone ranger

It became ruthless after Byrne was shot and coldly finished.

It must of been a high up person in "kinahan" dublin crew that shot the young relative.

I see what your saying. But theres no way I can believe Gary wasn't behind that. That was the whole reason the Monk had to step in and pay the money to save his life. And if he wasn't involved, why would they have killed him in Sept 2015?

Righteouswrong · 11-12-2019 6:57pm

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4874965/dublin-man-sentence-gun-possession-withdraws-funeral-request/

What feud is this lad involved in?

spider baby 172 · 11-12-2019 7:06pm

Deco Barry wrote: »

You can bet your life if cancer had his time back he would have never had him murdered but he does have a huge ego and thought he was invincible,now he has to live in the desert for the rest of his life,equally the monk would never have attempted the Regency if he had any idea of the retaliation that was going to follow although if they got Daniel it wouldn't have been so bad.

I wonder about that. His life is changed now forever so you might think there are regrets but like was said many times these people don't think like everyone else, especially someone in his position with an ego like that. The hit on Gary was one thing, but it was the attempted hit on the Monk that was really the point of no return.

ElBastardo1 · 11-12-2019 7:11pm

Righteouswrong wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4874965/dublin-man-sentence-gun-possession-withdraws-funeral-request/

What feud is this lad involved in?

https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/man-admits-possessing-handgun-in-suspected-foiled-hit-38708863.html

Tippsman · 11-12-2019 7:15pm

spider baby 172 wrote: »

I see what your saying. But theres no way I can believe Gary wasn't behind that. That was the whole reason the Monk had to step in and pay the money to save his life. And if he wasn't involved, why would they have killed him in Sept 2015?

IMO the young relative took it upon himself and that's why "the monk" stood up for Gary, of which he didn't approve of some of the ****e he got up too.

If Gary wanted cancer dead would he have not brought in the infamous "hitman" after Gary was killed said "this won't end until cancer is dead" ?

Berserker5 · 11-12-2019 7:17pm

What happened with Paddy Doyle that time?

Was it the kinahans behind it or the Turks or russians

spider baby 172 · 11-12-2019 7:18pm

ElBastardo1 wrote: »

https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/man-admits-possessing-handgun-in-suspected-foiled-hit-38708863.html

That barrister that represents him, he represents the Hutches aswell. Is there not a conflict of interests there somewhere?

Tippsman · 11-12-2019 7:20pm

Ernie Ryan wrote: »

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/major-kinahan-crime-figure-among-four-arrested-in-ireland-uk-operation-969844.html?__twitter_impression=true

Wonder who the 4th guy was..

Can only be L I A M as bomber is locked up.

spider baby 172 · 11-12-2019 7:20pm

Tippsman wrote: »

IMO the young relative took it upon himself and that's why "the monk" stood up for Gary, of which he didn't approve of some of the ****e he got up too.

If Gary wanted cancer dead would he have not brought in the infamous "hitman" after Gary was killed said "this won't end until cancer is dead" ?

You have a point.. The way I always viewed it, just reading about it with limited information, was that it wasn't a very well planned attempted hit. and that it was a quick decision when they saw an opportunity rather than planning it out properly.

Alliance123 · 11-12-2019 7:53pm

Tippsman wrote: »

Apparently money invested with cancer wasn't been paid back, which started it all.

Spanish police gave cancer a description of shooter and of koks car used which the kinahans were minding

Arranged punishment shooting for shooting Moore, all the hallmarks of a lone ranger

It became ruthless after Byrne was shot and coldly finished.

It must of been a high up person in "kinahan" dublin crew that shot the young relative.

DB

Alliance123 · 11-12-2019 7:59pm

Righteouswrong wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4874965/dublin-man-sentence-gun-possession-withdraws-funeral-request/

What feud is this lad involved in?

Him and WW went after Kirwans young lad

40supple · 11-12-2019 9:20pm

Righteouswrong wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4874965/dublin-man-sentence-gun-possession-withdraws-funeral-request/

What feud is this lad involved in?

That was his young lad who crashed the motorbike in Cabra last week and died as a result, only 19, would of been rough getting that news while in the nick.

He’ll be looking over his shoulder when he gets out for trying to clip duckeggs lad I’d imagine, wouldn’t fancy having that hanging over me, duckegg well respected throughout the innercity & further afield

OmarLittle187 · 11-12-2019 9:58pm

Raids in drogheda today. The stronghold of the anti maguire gang and also the home of the notorious hitman of the anti maguire gang

Alliance123 · 11-12-2019 10:04pm

Younger brother

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4876035/man-court-charged-conspiring-murder-patsy-hutch/

pablo128 · 11-12-2019 10:20pm

Goes to show what the Gardai can do when they are given the means to. That's 10 people nicked for one attempt.

Would it be fair to say that particular feud must be just about finished?

various artistes · 11-12-2019 10:35pm

pablo128 wrote: »

Would it be fair to say that particular feud must be just about finished?

I recall a SW headline the other month suggesting as much, didn't read it.

I'd imagine perhaps we have reached a stage where they have ceased targeting relatives and friends who had nothing to do with the Regency out of sheer spite.

It is, however, hard to imagine they will ever cease targeting people they believe had a direct role in the attack itself or who are of the criminal calibre to wreak revenge for what has already been done. IIRC two arrested the other week were after Derek Hutch's brother (the deceased Derek Hutch). It's hard to imagine them ever taking off the contracts on Gerry himself, the acquitted Patrick Hutch, his father, the imprisoned Derek Hutch (for no more reason than he's capable of revenge), Coakley if they believe he was involved (the guards insist they don't), Mago.

Makes you wonder how they have such a hard on for certain people despite only two gunmen from Regency being identified, if ever there was any truth what some said about a mole leaking Garda intelligence naming a dozen odd people involved in the logistics of the Regency.

declanleo · 11-12-2019 10:51pm

various artistes wrote: »

I recall a SW headline the other month suggesting as much, didn't read it.

if ever there was any truth what some said about a mole leaking Garda intelligence naming a dozen odd people involved in the logistics of the Regency.

Like a certain detective no longer with us?

pablo128 · 11-12-2019 10:51pm

Well someone has to order and pay for these hits. And a high ranking kinahan associate in the UK was nicked yesterday. If he goes down, I'd say that's pretty much the end of it for the time being.

Tippsman · 11-12-2019 10:55pm

The gardai don't deserve the praise! Rather than be proactive they were reactive the newspapers knew more, the killings of 2 innocent people forced their hand, "the cartel" had the run of the land before the innocent killings they're still running everything.

It'll never end too much has happened for it to ever really be over.

declanleo · 11-12-2019 10:57pm

spider baby 172 wrote: »

I see what your saying. But theres no way I can believe Gary wasn't behind that. That was the whole reason the Monk had to step in and pay the money to save his life. And if he wasn't involved, why would they have killed him in Sept 2015?

We were in torremolinos that may and met the monk in a bar. He was hammered which was odd as we thought he didnt drink. Knew he was stressed to the gills about something that day,realised after gary was murdered and the media reported the payment why

various artistes · 11-12-2019 11:01pm

declanleo wrote: »

Like a certain detective no longer with us?

That was the rumor.

It's simply amazing how nobody in the media wants to look at that case further. While the Byrne's aren't the nicest people in the world, on paper everyone deserves to have perpetrators of a crime against your family tried and punished. The acquittal without explanation is like something you'd see happen to a Putin crony in Russia.

spider baby 172 · 11-12-2019 11:01pm

pablo128 wrote: »

Would it be fair to say that particular feud must be just about finished?

Put it this way, suppose Gardai ended the round the clock protection in Champions Avenue, do you really think the man in there would last very long? I doubt he would see Christmas..

various artistes · 11-12-2019 11:04pm

Tippsman wrote: »

It'll never end too much has happened for it to ever really be over.

It begs the question, at what stage will the Garda car parked outside leave Patsy Hutch's house?

10 years?

20?

When DB and his parents are dead?

With so many people under threat why was he seemingly the only one allocated full time protection?

pablo128 · 11-12-2019 11:05pm

spider baby 172 wrote: »

Put it this way, suppose Gardai ended the round the clock protection in Champions Avenue, do you really think the man in there would last very long? I doubt he would see Christmas..

He'd be gone out of the country on the next flight id say.

I haven't heard of any attempts on Patrick hutch or 'Harry' to be fair. I would have thought they would be prime targets.

spider baby 172 · 11-12-2019 11:08pm

pablo128 wrote: »

He'd be gone out of the country on the next flight id say.

I haven't heard of any attempts on Patrick hutch or 'Harry' to be fair. I would have thought they would be prime targets.

I would be thinking Harry is lying low and watching his back, but he is bound to crop up sooner or later. Theres been no whisper of Patrick since the trial collapsed, he was meant to be under the wing of the man up the North

Tippsman · 11-12-2019 11:13pm

various artistes wrote: »

It begs the question, at what stage will the Garda car parked outside leave Patsy Hutch's house?

10 years?

20?

When DB and his parents are dead?

With so many people under threat why was he seemingly the only one allocated full time protection?

They've tried to get him kill 3 times I think.

As long as he's alive and he refuses relocation program.

spider baby 172 · 11-12-2019 11:15pm

various artistes wrote: »

It begs the question, at what stage will the Garda car parked outside leave Patsy Hutch's house?

10 years?

20?

When DB and his parents are dead?

With so many people under threat why was he seemingly the only one allocated full time protection?

Its crazy when you really think about it. Its not just outside the house, the cops are likely still all over Sean McDermott street aswell. Patsy would be doing himself and the state a favour by f**king off up North or something and keeping his head down. His quality of life here must be shocking.

40supple · 11-12-2019 11:16pm

Alliance123 wrote: »

Younger brother

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4876035/man-court-charged-conspiring-murder-patsy-hutch/

Jesus! That’s 9 in over 1 attempt (3 sentenced) the laws of averages means someone in the top tier has gone Turk, Mount joy is bursting at the seams with KCOG cannon fodder.

SEPT 23 1989 · 11-12-2019 11:19pm

various artistes wrote: »

That was the rumor.

It's simply amazing how nobody in the media wants to look at that case further. While the Byrne's aren't the nicest people in the world, on paper everyone deserves to have perpetrators of a crime against your family tried and punished. The acquittal without explanation is like something you'd see happen to a Putin crony in Russia.

It’s too small of a country

Cops have everything on the high ups in society

Too many skeletons could be revealed

Every arm of the state would destroy them anyway were they brave enough to publish anything

Just remember a politician was whacked in Russia and a newspaper had to apologise over a lady he was with when it happened

spider baby 172 · 11-12-2019 11:19pm

declanleo wrote: »

We were in torremolinos that may and met the monk in a bar. He was hammered which was odd as we thought he didnt drink. Knew he was stressed to the gills about something that day,realised after gary was murdered and the media reported the payment why

Must have been crazy to meet him like that all the same.. Was he mixing with anyone or does he keep himself to himself?

BDI · 11-12-2019 11:34pm

Jesus h christ.

He is called the monk because he wasn’t drinking one time and somebody said what are you a monk or something along them lines. Story varies.

How do people still think he is some sober genius. Why does he see to have loads of mates who are dying in this feud who have IRA links. That’s what I’d like to know.

Thedogsbolix · 11-12-2019 11:39pm

Raids in the MM estate ? Seen loads off armed response around today.. the B gang are under serious pressure. Mr Price is looking after the M gang. No more stupid videos been posted online by them in a while.

Berserker5 · 11-12-2019 11:41pm

There's obviously a piece of the jigsaw missing

GH handing over 2 mil and then the monk coming back with another 200k , doesn't make sense

BDI · 11-12-2019 11:41pm

Thedogsbolix wrote: »

Raids in the MM estate ? Seen loads off armed response around today.. the B gang are under serious pressure. Mr Price is looking after the M gang. No more stupid videos been posted online by them in a while.

De fuk? Message me what that means.

Berserker5 · 11-12-2019 11:44pm

Who's the hitman for the b gang is it RL?

BDI · 11-12-2019 11:48pm

Berserker5 wrote: »

Who's the hitman for the b gang is it RL?

It’s not gangs, it’s groups of friends, once one row ends they can all be friends again then another fight will start and they will all split up in another faction. All bull**** from the press. These lads live year to year, friend to friend. Family relations tied them together more.

Berserker5 · 11-12-2019 11:52pm

Large Garda presence inside Krispy Kreme

splinter65 · 11-12-2019 11:53pm

Was there an armed Garda presence at Eoin Boylans funeral or is that unnecessary?

OmarLittle187 · 12-12-2019 12:04am

various artistes wrote: »

That was the rumor.

It's simply amazing how nobody in the media wants to look at that case further. While the Byrne's aren't the nicest people in the world, on paper everyone deserves to have perpetrators of a crime against your family tried and punished. The acquittal without explanation is like something you'd see happen to a Putin crony in Russia.

An explanation was given at the time. The proper protocols were not followed in identifying Patrick hutch as the gunman dressed as woman. The evidence gathering was tainted. Simple

OmarLittle187 · 12-12-2019 12:09am

Berserker5 wrote: »

Who's the hitman for the b gang is it RL?

Hes meant to have did owen. PC be the local notorious hitman

Omackeral · 12-12-2019 12:10am

Berserker5 wrote: »

Large Garda presence inside Krispy Kreme

Tippsman · 12-12-2019 12:30am

splinter65 wrote: »

Was there an armed Garda presence at Eoin Boylans funeral or is that unnecessary?

Nothing anywhere about his and Wayne's funeral.

OmarLittle187 wrote: »

An explanation was given at the time. The proper protocols were not followed in identifying Patrick hutch as the gunman dressed as woman. The evidence gathering was tainted. Simple

So there's 3 theories to why the detective killed himself.

1. Evidence gathering was tainted
2. Dutch police cracked a PGP device and evidence of payments and his help in 2 murders in Ireland.
3. 12 names supposedly involved in regancy were given to the deceased father.

1 is hardly a reason for a detective to kill himself.

Jeff2 · 12-12-2019 12:34am

40supple wrote: »

That was his young lad who crashed the motorbike in Cabra last week and died as a result, only 19, would of been rough getting that news while in the nick.

He’ll be looking over his shoulder when he gets out for trying to clip duckeggs lad I’d imagine, wouldn’t fancy having that hanging over me, duckegg well respected throughout the innercity & further afield

Lights and flowers on the footpath where the lad crashed hit a car and took out a wall and gate pillar.
Across the road at in grounds of 6 flats is a loud party outside while a woman dropped of more flowers.

Crazy to me.

OmarLittle187 · 12-12-2019 1:33am

Tippsman wrote: »

Nothing anywhere about his and Wayne's funeral.

So there's 3 theories to why the detective killed himself.

1. Evidence gathering was tainted
2. Dutch police cracked a PGP device and evidence of payments and his help in 2 murders in Ireland.
3. 12 names supposedly involved in regancy were given to the deceased father.

1 is hardly a reason for a detective to kill himself.

Is there any reason for anyone to kill themselves?

I wouldn't call humber 1 a theory, it was what was reported at the time by the media. This was all over the media when hutch was acquitted. I dont know why people have been saying no explanation if you follow the news or even this thread. Personally when I read about him being acquitted I wasnt sceptical of the suicide in the sense that it was a case of extreme importance extreme magnitude massive public attention and it all asunder due to incompetence. So what I mean is when I read about the acquittal I took it at the time that it was the gardas embarrassment/shame that drove him to suicide after realising the trial will collapse due to errors being made and protocols not being followed.

1mackattack! · 12-12-2019 3:41am

Deco Barry wrote: »

I think it was a case of not finding DK so just take someone else and DB after running one way he then turned back and ran straight into the AK47 lads,going by the CCTV released they set a trap by sending PH and flat cap in one way to flush people out towards mago and nathan and I think DB was the only one that fell right into it.

Whos Nathan?

1mackattack! · 12-12-2019 3:54am

OmarLittle187 wrote: »

Hes meant to have did owen. PC be the local notorious hitman

Whos PC?

avalidusername · 12-12-2019 9:44am

OmarLittle187 wrote: »

An explanation was given at the time. The proper protocols were not followed in identifying Patrick hutch as the gunman dressed as woman. The evidence gathering was tainted. Simple

I thought that was covered towards the start of the trial, it was called the "trial within a trial" if I remember correctly and they said the id(s) of Hutch by the different Gardai were safe/admissible so the trial continued.

Going by the 3 theories Tippsman mentions (sorry I can't multiquote)

1 seems like professional suicide for a detective to mess something up regarding evidence, if not the ID of Patrick Hutch as that was given the A-ok previously, then what else might it have been that would compromise a murder case? Maybe a demotion and public lambasting by the gardai for misdemeanors but I dunno, seems a bit extreme for a suicide.

2 and 3 seem like professional suicide plus signing your own death warrant once the information became public. Being complicit in 2 murders by (2) or other revenge/retaliation murders by (3) would assure jail time. Definitely not easy for a detective. If only short jail time he'd be a marked man for life by all concerned who he'd crossed/helped kill associates.

I think the full story about Det Fox won't be found out for a long long time, my main theory is that if he was either a dirty or incompetent cop, it could put a huge range of convictions in jeopardy if he was involved in them through his career, and that's a barrel of worms that the Dept of Justice don't want opened up.

Alternately, maybe the man was just stressed over the whole situation or many situations, suicide is a weird and nasty thing for all concerned.

avalidusername · 12-12-2019 9:48am

1mackattack! wrote: »

Whos PC?

1mackattack! wrote: »

Whos Nathan?

These lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJ9sPYWYEA

White lighting · 12-12-2019 10:59am

avalidusername wrote: »

These lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJ9sPYWYEA

Two very dangerous men.... To your eardrums

Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

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