Winter 2011/2012

Harps · 09-10-2011 8:15pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

oh okay thanks for clearing that up, how do i find charts that show temps?

There's also a temperature at 2m option now as well, not sure how accurate it is but it'll give a general idea anyway

The links are along the top, [Temp. 850hPa] for the upper air temps and [Temp. 2m] for the ground level temps.

The chart you posted above is used mainly to get an idea of wind direction and strength, air flows clockwise around high pressure and anti-clockwise around low pressure, the closer the lines are together the stronger the wind. So the wind on the chart above will be coming from the north-west but the colours aren't really that relevant to conditions on the ground so its not as cold as it looks!

Probably a bit overwhelming at first but its not too hard to get a hang of it, this time last year I didn't really know anything about them but after a year I have a decent idea of what to expect without reading any forecasts

Scorpdoc · 09-10-2011 8:41pm

I have reason to believe ( not psychic and probably not scientific, not a gut instinct, just by observation) that this winter is going to be typical damp blustery, atlantic temp ( 5-12 c) winter, like last January. My reasoning is:

1. Sun is spitting out CME otherwise the UV level is higher: Scientist believe the cold winter is due to the unusual quiteness of the Sun. The sun has a eleven year cycle, the start is quite and towards the end it creates sunspots that shoot out cmes The sun recently woke up and is active, but its slumber this time was a little longer than expected, hence the low UV IN 09/10. Its up and going again.

2. September this year is the wettest in some years, we had a wet September last year though, however this never carried into October. This is due to the end of th anti cyclonic weather over the Atlantic. If you remember are snow cam from the east and it cleared once the prevailing wind from the Atlantic came back. A week Atlantic pressure and you will see the eastern winds back.

3.Cloud cover: September was a record for dullness, the more cloud cover, the less frost. October is still dark.

4. Ireland is prepared for a long winter, we bought tons of rock salt via the states coffers, its traditional we get this wrong

5. Its unusually warm: We had a cold summer, but its October now and many have not turned their central heatings.I actually read an article that flowers are reblooming, unnatural;y. Sorry I dont have proof.

Blizzard 2010 · 09-10-2011 9:04pm

vibe666 wrote: »

then what is it, or are you just going to tease us?

Weatheronline are predicting a chilly November and a Very cold early December. I am predicting that any mild incursions will be to a short lived. We will have mild incursions during middle part of December. I am also predicting heavy snowfalls during the Christmas period. dont be fooled by this present warm weather. this will be gone in the next forthnight.

Scubadevils · 09-10-2011 9:14pm

Scorpdoc wrote: »

I have reason to believe ( not psychic and probably not scientific, not a gut instinct, just by observation) that this winter is going to be typical damp blustery, atlantic temp ( 5-12 c) winter, like last January. My reasoning is:

1. Sun is spitting out CME otherwise the UV level is higher: Scientist believe the cold winter is due to the unusual quiteness of the Sun. The sun has a eleven year cycle, the start is quite and towards the end it creates sunspots that shoot out cmes The sun recently woke up and is active, but its slumber this time was a little longer than expected, hence the low UV IN 09/10. Its up and going again.

2. September this year is the wettest in some years, we had a wet September last year though, however this never carried into October. This is due to the end of th anti cyclonic weather over the Atlantic. If you remember are snow cam from the east and it cleared once the prevailing wind from the Atlantic came back. A week Atlantic pressure and you will see the eastern winds back.

3.Cloud cover: September was a record for dullness, the more cloud cover, the less frost. October is still dark.

4. Ireland is prepared for a long winter, we bought tons of rock salt via the states coffers, its traditional we get this wrong

5. Its unusually warm: We had a cold summer, but its October now and many have not turned their central heatings.I actually read an article that flowers are reblooming, unnatural;y. Sorry I dont have proof.

I am certainly no weather expert, hardly an amateur either :pac: but I was interested in your last point regarding October and the current temps so I had a look at the stats on met.ie for October 2010, 2009 and 2008 - from what I can see there is a trend for progressively warmer Octobers over the last 3 with the colder temps arriving later each year... you need to download a PDF for each months data, prob an easier way that I'm not aware of however!

http://www.met.ie/climate/monthly-summary.asp

Scorpdoc · 09-10-2011 9:44pm

Scubadevils wrote: »

I am certainly no weather expert, hardly an amateur either :pac: but I was interested in your last point regarding October and the current temps so I had a look at the stats on met.ie for October 2010, 2009 and 2008 - from what I can see there is a trend for progressively warmer Octobers over the last 3 with the colder temps arriving later each year... you need to download a PDF for each months data, prob an easier way that I'm not aware of however!

http://www.met.ie/climate/monthly-summary.asp

Yes, that is quite conclusive. But I feel, in my honest opinion that it will be a wet winter. I just think the weather is again acting differently as per the last few years. But it wouldnt surprise me if there is a blizzard next week

Medium term prediction doesnt seem to be an exact science (IMHO), more of a pseudoscience, even from the experts.:mad:

Excellent thread by the way.:cool:

bb1234567 · 09-10-2011 9:46pm

Scorpdoc wrote: »

I have reason to believe ( not psychic and probably not scientific, not a gut instinct, just by observation) that this winter is going to be typical damp blustery, atlantic temp ( 5-12 c) winter, like last January. My reasoning is:

1. Sun is spitting out CME otherwise the UV level is higher: Scientist believe the cold winter is due to the unusual quiteness of the Sun. The sun has a eleven year cycle, the start is quite and towards the end it creates sunspots that shoot out cmes The sun recently woke up and is active, but its slumber this time was a little longer than expected, hence the low UV IN 09/10. Its up and going again.

2. September this year is the wettest in some years, we had a wet September last year though, however this never carried into October. This is due to the end of th anti cyclonic weather over the Atlantic. If you remember are snow cam from the east and it cleared once the prevailing wind from the Atlantic came back. A week Atlantic pressure and you will see the eastern winds back.

3.Cloud cover: September was a record for dullness, the more cloud cover, the less frost. October is still dark.

4. Ireland is prepared for a long winter, we bought tons of rock salt via the states coffers, its traditional we get this wrong

5. Its unusually warm: We had a cold summer, but its October now and many have not turned their central heatings.I actually read an article that flowers are reblooming, unnatural;y. Sorry I dont have proof.

em october weather doesnt really have any bearing on the weather of the next 3 months(well no scientific proof). but going by your logic we should expect a cold winter then,your saying this october is very warm well usually hotter than average octobers are followed by cold winters, all the last 3 octobers were above average temps and look what followed those 3 years;) nd it wasnt just those 3 years a lot of very cold winters were preceeded by a warm october. i think its a bit early to be hammering the nail in the coffin right now, i think theres a very severe winter a coming:D

ShawB · 09-10-2011 9:54pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

em october weather doesnt really have any bearing on the weather of the next 3 months(well no scientific proof). but going by your logic we should expect a cold winter then,your saying this october is very warm well usually hotter than average octobers are followed by cold winters, all the last 3 octobers were above average temps and look what followed those 3 years;) nd it wasnt just those 3 years a lot of very cold winters were preceeded by a warm october. i think its a bit early to be hammering the nail in the coffin right now, i think theres a very severe winter a coming:D

Think we have found a right young weather enthusiast in you bb

bb1234567 · 09-10-2011 9:57pm

Scorpdoc wrote: »

I have reason to believe ( not psychic and probably not scientific, not a gut instinct, just by observation) that this winter is going to be typical damp blustery, atlantic temp ( 5-12 c) winter, like last January. My reasoning is:

1. Sun is spitting out CME otherwise the UV level is higher: Scientist believe the cold winter is due to the unusual quiteness of the Sun. The sun has a eleven year cycle, the start is quite and towards the end it creates sunspots that shoot out cmes The sun recently woke up and is active, but its slumber this time was a little longer than expected, hence the low UV IN 09/10. Its up and going again.

2. September this year is the wettest in some years, we had a wet September last year though, however this never carried into October. This is due to the end of th anti cyclonic weather over the Atlantic. If you remember are snow cam from the east and it cleared once the prevailing wind from the Atlantic came back. A week Atlantic pressure and you will see the eastern winds back.

3.Cloud cover: September was a record for dullness, the more cloud cover, the less frost. October is still dark.

4. Ireland is prepared for a long winter, we bought tons of rock salt via the states coffers, its traditional we get this wrong

5. Its unusually warm: We had a cold summer, but its October now and many have not turned their central heatings.I actually read an article that flowers are reblooming, unnatural;y. Sorry I dont have proof.

re to point 1- sunspot activity is still way below what it should be and bear in mind there could be a lag effect, and the increase in activity may not take effect until next winter or later.

re point 2- that doesnt really make much sense, september wether isnt a very good indicator of how cold our winter will be!ireland obviously will not be dominated by easterly winds for 12 months a year this sint siberia! ireland will always be dominated by both atlantic depressions and easterlies (and other wind directions too of course) the easterly winds are caused by northern blocking and obviously the northern blocking has to give in at some point and rebuild again later. much of our summer was dominated by northern blocking giving us the cold summer weather, northern blocking it just so happens has stopped now since start of september but is forecast to begin again end of october!!

3- again doesnt really mean we wont have a cold winter.could all change very quickly.
4- haha true now you got me there:p
5- as i said in my last post.

so i think you shoudnt jump the shark too quickly, this winter could well turn out to be a very cold one,fingers crossed anyway:D are you hoping for a cold or mild one?

bb1234567 · 09-10-2011 9:58pm

ShawB wrote: »

Think we have found a right young weather enthusiast in you bb

ha thanks but i really dont know much:p i just try to act smart and look like i know loads:p

Scorpdoc · 09-10-2011 9:59pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

em october weather doesnt really have any bearing on the weather of the next 3 months(well no scientific proof). but going by your logic we should expect a cold winter then,your saying this october is very warm well usually hotter than average octobers are followed by cold winters, all the last 3 octobers were above average temps and look what followed those 3 years;) nd it wasnt just those 3 years a lot of very cold winters were preceeded by a warm october. i think its a bit early to be hammering the nail in the coffin right now, i think theres a very severe winter a coming:D

You are probably right, but the my point of the increased activity over the Atlantic is a different event from the last few years. Then again, you could be spot on as the experts are saying the same.

Scorpdoc · 09-10-2011 10:03pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

re to point 1- sunspot activity is still way below what it should be and bear in mind there could be a lag effect, and the increase in activity may not take effect until next winter or later.

re point 2- that doesnt really make much sense, september wether isnt a very good indicator of how cold our winter will be!ireland obviously will not be dominated by easterly winds for 12 months a year this sint siberia! ireland will always be dominated by both atlantic depressions and easterlies (and other wind directions too of course) the easterly winds are caused by northern blocking and obviously the northern blocking has to give in at some point and rebuild again later. much of our summer was dominated by northern blocking giving us the cold summer weather, northern blocking it just so happens has stopped now since start of september but is forecast to begin again end of october!!

3- again doesnt really mean we wont have a cold winter.could all change very quickly.
4- haha true now you got me there:p
5- as i said in my last post.

so i think you shoudnt jump the shark too quickly, this winter could well turn out to be a very cold one,fingers crossed anyway:D are you hoping for a cold or mild one?

Hoping for a cold one, love the snow

. But cant see it happening.

thetonynator · 09-10-2011 10:26pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

ha thanks but i really dont know much:p i just try to act smart and look like i know loads:p

Posting this after your knowledgeable posts kind of undoes the effect of the good posts!!!

Speak Now · 09-10-2011 11:02pm

Scorpdoc wrote: »

I have reason to believe ( not psychic and probably not scientific, not a gut instinct, just by observation) that this winter is going to be typical damp blustery, atlantic temp ( 5-12 c) winter, like last January. My reasoning is:

Last January wasn't Atlantic weather if i recall correctly, im sure it was colder and dryier than normal. prehaps you mean February.

Scorpdoc · 09-10-2011 11:08pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Last January wasn't Atlantic weather if i recall correctly, im sure it was colder and dryier than normal. prehaps you mean February.

From Memory, it was a month dominated by prevailing winds. Therefore warmer thawing weather, warmer than early December.

Scorpdoc · 09-10-2011 11:12pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Last January wasn't Atlantic weather if i recall correctly, im sure it was colder and dryier than normal. prehaps you mean February.

But you are correct, drier than normal.

Speak Now · 09-10-2011 11:19pm

Scorpdoc wrote: »

From Memory, it was a month dominated by prevailing winds. Therefore warmer thawing weather, warmer than early December.

Ah come on warmer than early december, the spell that broke all records :pac:
I remember january as being high pressure dominated with plenty of frost despite no snow events.

I'm sure some of the experts might recall the month better but im fairly certain that it wasn't your standard atlantic driven winter month.

Scorpdoc · 09-10-2011 11:31pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Ah come on warmer than early december, the spell that broke all records :pac:
I remember january as being high pressure dominated with plenty of frost despite no snow events.

I'm sure some of the experts might recall the month better but im fairly certain that it wasn't your standard atlantic driven winter month.

It not was sub Artic temperature like November/December

Scorpdoc · 09-10-2011 11:35pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Ah come on warmer than early december, the spell that broke all records :pac:
I remember january as being high pressure dominated with plenty of frost despite no snow events.

I'm sure some of the experts might recall the month better but im fairly certain that it wasn't your standard atlantic driven winter month.

http://www.met.ie/climate/monthly_summarys/jan11sum.pdf

There is the experts results, please see link.

thetonynator · 09-10-2011 11:46pm

Scorpdoc wrote: »

http://www.met.ie/climate/monthly_summarys/jan11sum.pdf

There is the experts results, please see link.

. Mean air
temperatures of between 3°C and 5.5°C were around a degree below normal everywhere,

Reading that, the month started with northerlies, switched briefly to atlantic weather before high pressure dominated bringing cold clear weather.

Certainly not dominated by the atlantic, and I remember having 2 ice days here when the freezing fog failed to lift.

Scorpdoc · 09-10-2011 11:52pm

Scorpdoc wrote: »

From Memory, it was a month dominated by prevailing winds. Therefore warmer thawing weather, warmer than early December.

My point I was trying to make that it was milder from November December, with regards Atlantic domination, I was referring to more the wind direction.

It was all from memory, all I know it wasn't as bad as pre-Christmas.

FootShooter · 09-10-2011 11:52pm

First real snow fell today in the mountains of Southern-Norway.

This is what happened:
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostafjells/buskerud/1.7825971
http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/flere-trafikkulykker-i-snoevaeret-det-er-livsfarlig-aa-kjoere-med-sommerdekk-naa-3605887.html
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/10/09/nyheter/innenriks/ver/18515569/
http://www.nettavisen.no/vaer/article3247488.ece

Use Google translate if you want to read what the articles say.

People going to the mountains for the weekend with summertyres on, without checking the forecast. Going back down the mountains on snow covered roads with summertyres equals disaster. I bet most of you didn't think anything like this could happen in Norway? Happens every single year, and it's going to happen again when the first snow falls in the cities in a few weeks or so.

Also, I would deeply recommend investing in a set of wintertyres if the prediction of the cold winter lasting for 50 years is correct. Non-spiked are the best for snow, and spiked tyres are best for ice.

davidsr20 · 10-10-2011 12:35am

Scorpdoc wrote: »

My point I was trying to make that it was milder from November December, with regards Atlantic domination, I was referring to more the wind direction.

It was all from memory, all I know it wasn't as bad as pre-Christmas.

U really are trying to rain on our parrade h ha it's going to be coldest ever I hope

Speak Now · 10-10-2011 8:30am

Scorpdoc wrote: »

My point I was trying to make that it was milder from November December, with regards Atlantic domination, I was referring to more the wind direction.

It was all from memory, all I know it wasn't as bad as pre-Christmas.

But that wasn't your point, what you said was that this winter was going is going to be typical damp blustery, atlantic temp winter like last January.

Last December was coldest month in 100 odd years, January was obviously nowhere near as cold but it still wasn't zonality as you had suggested.

You may however be correct in your prediction for this winter.....

Tindie · 10-10-2011 10:22am

Papers are yet again talking about snow
(The BIG HEAD LINES ARE)

Daily Express - BRITAIN FACES A MINI 'ICE AGE' LOL
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/276516

Mail - Winter's first icy blast is on the way: Frost and temperatures of -3C by the weekend

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047245/UK-weather-First-frost-temperatures-3C-weekend.html

The Sun -Grit ready for a chilly -20°C'
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3861224/Grit-ready-for-a-chilly-20C.html

Daily Star - UK WEATHER: RIVIERA AND THEN ARCTIC!
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/215050/UK-weather-Riviera-and-then-Arctic-/

The Mirror as no news about snow!

jimbobaloobob · 10-10-2011 1:24pm

Sure if they keep guessing eventually they will be right

Take what comes i say.

vibe666 · 10-10-2011 1:25pm

maybe it's just a slow news week and they've nothing better to do?

m.kelly · 10-10-2011 1:41pm

Irish Weather online put this up this morning

http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/atmosphere/cold/bookmakers-issue-winter-betting-odds-following-chilly-forecasts/41236.html

Pangea · 10-10-2011 1:41pm

Tindie wrote: »

Papers are yet again talking about snow
(The BIG HEAD LINES ARE)

Daily Express - BRITAIN FACES A MINI 'ICE AGE' LOL
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/276516

Mail - Winter's first icy blast is on the way: Frost and temperatures of -3C by the weekend

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047245/UK-weather-First-frost-temperatures-3C-weekend.html

The Sun -Grit ready for a chilly -20°C'
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3861224/Grit-ready-for-a-chilly-20C.html

Daily Star - UK WEATHER: RIVIERA AND THEN ARCTIC!
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/215050/UK-weather-Riviera-and-then-Arctic-/

The Mirror as no news about snow!

Il take your links and raise you

REVEALED: WORST WINTER EVER ON WAY TO DONEGAL AS -20C TO HIT COUNTY

http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/10/10/revealed-worst-winter-ever-on-way-to-donegal-as-20c-to-hit-county/

Speak Now · 10-10-2011 1:51pm

m.kelly wrote: »

Irish Weather online put this up this morning

http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/atmosphere/cold/bookmakers-issue-winter-betting-odds-following-chilly-forecasts/41236.html

Fair miserly odds there by Mr. Power.

Pangea · 10-10-2011 1:52pm

How come Exacta weather are getting so much news coverage?
Have they a good record for forecasting cold winters?

Speak Now · 10-10-2011 1:56pm

Pangea wrote: »

How come Exacta weather are getting so much news coverage?
Have they a good record for forecasting cold winters?

They’re forecasts are very sensationalist which suits the rags quoting them.

Every winter - coldest on record.

Every summer - barbecue summer.

Tabloids don’t do average.

Not · 10-10-2011 2:03pm

Pangea wrote: »

Il take your links and raise you

REVEALED: WORST WINTER EVER ON WAY TO DONEGAL AS -20C TO HIT COUNTY

http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/10/10/revealed-worst-winter-ever-on-way-to-donegal-as-20c-to-hit-county/

"James Madden, long-range forecaster for Exacta Weather, said: "The most frequent and heavy snowfalls will occur during November, December and January. That's the view at present."

So it's October, and none of the predicted snow (what a surprise !), so let's try for November instead. And hey, if it doesn't snow in November, well he's covered his ass by including most of the rest of the Winter months for the possibility of the heaviest snowfall :rolleyes:

Pangea · 10-10-2011 2:05pm

Can't wait to hear M.Ts Winter Forecast.

Lucreto · 10-10-2011 2:08pm

Pangea wrote: »

How come Exacta weather are getting so much news coverage?
Have they a good record for forecasting cold winters?

Exacta weather did last year for the most part correct but got the start of the year wrong. They said the summer will be dull and cool while others said we will have a BBQ summer.

The rags like to blow things out of proportion. Exacta weather said October snow just in one line and the media played it as it is going to happen.

The media are taking a sensationalist approach to sell papers. Not one of these papers have actually interviewed James on why he said October just refering to his forecast.

I bet James regrets saying it now.

JONJO THE MISER · 10-10-2011 3:15pm

Its getting a lot colder the last few nights, hopefully a sign of things to come.

Musicman2000 · 10-10-2011 3:29pm

Snow and cold lovers wont like this, the UK Meto near normal temps Temps from Dec to Feb http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/images/prob_ensemble/20111001/3up_20111001_temp2m_months35_europe_prob_public.png

delw · 10-10-2011 3:34pm

Pangea wrote: »

Can't wait to hear M.Ts Winter Forecast.

suppose it all depends on what type of winter people are hoping for but some will be disappointed either way

Tom Cruises Left Nut · 10-10-2011 3:42pm

delw wrote: »

suppose it all depends on what type of winter people are hoping for but some will be disappointed either way

Yeah but as long as the damp lovers are disappointed all is grand !

delw · 10-10-2011 4:10pm

t|nt|n wrote: »

Yeah but as long as the damp lovers are disappointed all is grand !

fingers crossed

Lucreto · 10-10-2011 4:43pm

Musicman2000 wrote: »

Snow and cold lovers wont like this, the UK Meto near normal temps Temps from Dec to Feb http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/images/prob_ensemble/20111001/3up_20111001_temp2m_months35_europe_prob_public.png

Well the Met Office doesn't have a great record on long term forecasts. They don't give them out any more due to getting it completely wrong all the time.

Musicman2000 · 10-10-2011 4:58pm

Lucreto wrote: »

Well the Met Office doesn't have a great record on long term forecasts. They don't give them out any more due to getting it completely wrong all the time.

True, I would love to see snow from Nov to Feb myself, But I think one or two of our younger posters are getting their hopes up to much, and if it dosent happen there is going to be a lot of disapointed people

bb1234567 · 10-10-2011 4:58pm

well lokking at mo's track record i'd prob go with the opposite to what their forecasting, so all is still good for snowlovers :P

bb1234567 · 10-10-2011 5:00pm

Musicman2000 wrote: »

True, I would love to see snow from Nov to Feb myself, But I think one or two of our younger posters are getting their hopes up to much, and if it dosent happen there is going to be a lot of disapointed people

your ovo talking bout me

ye i know my hopes are set to high and am just hoping, i'll be sad if it doesnt snow but i'll get over it evenually:p

Musicman2000 · 10-10-2011 5:13pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

your ovo talking bout me ye i know my hopes are set to high and am just hoping, i'll be sad if it doesnt snow but i'll get over it evenually:p

Not just yourself:) be very intertsting to see MT's winter outlook, and the netweather winter outlook is out this week as well, Fingers crossed for a cold one

Lucreto · 10-10-2011 5:15pm

Musicman2000 wrote: »

Not just yourself:) be very intertsting to see MT's winter outlook, and the netweather winter outlook is out this week as well, Fingers crossed for a cold one

Any idea when this week they will be released?

Musicman2000 · 10-10-2011 6:25pm

Lucreto wrote: »

Any idea when this week they will be released?

Not sure which day, should be close to the end of the week, looks like the evening herlad are jumping on the cold bandwagon, but its quoted from James Madded again:rolleyes: http://www.herald.ie/news/new-ice-age-on-the-way-but-its-just-a-little-one-2901083.html

Scorpdoc · 10-10-2011 7:32pm

davidsr20 wrote: »

U really are trying to rain on our parrade h ha it's going to be coldest ever I hope

Yes I was:D

Lucreto · 10-10-2011 7:55pm

Musicman2000 wrote: »

Snow and cold lovers wont like this, the UK Meto near normal temps Temps from Dec to Feb http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/images/prob_ensemble/20111001/3up_20111001_temp2m_months35_europe_prob_public.png

Its a joke article but

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3862336/You-better-ask-a-baby-about-weather.html

whitemocha · 10-10-2011 9:08pm

http://www.herald.ie/news/new-ice-age-on-the-way-but-its-just-a-little-one-2901083.html

sorry if it has been posted already:)

fizzycyst · 10-10-2011 9:25pm

Kieran Hickey, Climatologist in NUIG was just interviewed on RTE news re cold weather patterns in northern Europe. He seems to think that increased sun activity this year will bring a milder winter, although he did say it's by no means a certainty.

Winter 2011/2012

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