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Drew Harris appointed Garda commissioner.

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  • #52
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    timthumbni wrote: »
    West brits????

    Wtf are you a mod on exactly????? The drunk, crying, tricolour pants wearing republican forum?????.

    Looks like I hit a nerve there :pac:

    Give over, that particular poster is more than happy to have a go at everyone else and give out about the shinners


  • #53
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Well as long as he doesn’t try to discredit whistle-blowers and then lie about it. He’ll be a improvement. It’s a pretty low bar.


  • #54
    RhubarbCrumble
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    He can't be any worse than the last one surely?


  • #55
    fxotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    so after a worldwide search of the worlds police forces this is the best they could appoint?

    absolute joke

    Go on then.What’s your objection to him?


  • #56
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    I don't know how people forget this so easily. There is strong suspicion of British security force involvement in the Dublin and Monaghan bombs, it wasn't long ago that British security members were shooting Irish people dead on our streets, shooting kids, shooting people going to GAA matches and so on. This fella has links to mi5, why should we trust him?


  • #57
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    What matters of State security do you imagine he will be passing on to MI5 - everybody knows the Nuclear fallout bunker is under the Costume Barracks in Athlone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custume_Barracks Do we have any other secrets that might be useful to a 'foreign' power - the very one we would turn if we were threatened by terrorists/Russia etc.

    he may disclose where all the iodine tablets are kept :eek:
    riffmongous wrote: »
    Looks like I hit a nerve there :pac:

    Give over, that particular poster is more than happy to have a go at everyone else and give out about the shinners

    You're definitely a giver, not a taker aren't you?


  • #58
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,004 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    There was no way any US police chief would get this job. They carry guns you see.

    Aus and NZ were out too because of (perhaps) their lack of knowledge of the history of Ireland. Sorry I don't mean to denigrate such candidates, it is just an observation, nothing to do with their competence in their own countries.

    So we now have a PSNI Deputy Chief Constable, Presbyterian, great work ethic, knows the score and has seen his own force totally transformed. He can be an Irish citizen, a British citizen or both under GFA and that is why it may work.

    I can kind of see why the PAS had him in their sights alright.

    I wish him all the best.


  • #59
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    I don't know how people forget this so easily. There is strong suspicion of British security force involvement in the Dublin and Monaghan bombs, it wasn't long ago that British security members were shooting Irish people dead on our streets, shooting kids, shooting people going to GAA matches and so on. This fella has links to mi5, why should we trust him?

    It's a freemason plot I fear.


  • #60
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Taytoland wrote: »
    It's a freemason plot I fear.

    Let's not forget the civilians killed by the RUC also.


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  • #61
    pearcider
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Anyone who despises cowardly murderous IRA bastards can't be all bad.

    I know you're a troll but the IRA formed as a result of the policies of a violent and sectarian state. The vast majority down south supported them in their struggle against the orange lunatics. Lets not completely revise history to garner a few thanks on boards. The RUC and their ilk were also murderous bastards.


  • #62
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Taytoland wrote: »
    It's a freemason plot I fear.

    Let's not forget the civilians killed by the RUC also.
    Or the great Garda officers slaughtered by IRA scum. He will get on very  well with the Garda.


  • #63
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Taytoland wrote: »
    Or the great Garda officers slaughtered by IRA scum. He will get on very  well with the Garda.

    The innocents slaughtered by the RUC and the British security forces were not in the IRA!


  • #64
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,004 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Bottom line for me is, will he change the mindset in AGS, will he get cops out patrolling the streets and protecting us, will he tackle organised crime and dissos, will he be able to sack corrupt Gardai, and will he have the support and the budget to do all this?

    I hope he has cojones the size of melons for this task. Fair play to him for applying, and being selected. He knows he can do it, I hope he succeeds.

    Shredders to the metal in Headquarters tonight. Although I'd say most of the Senior ranks had an idea anyway. They know everything of course, but seem to do very little with a lot of information they have really. Thinking of crash and burn robberies from our ethnic friends and so much more. Reactive rather than proactive. CCTV shows someone being beaten up and murdered, and they arrive post event. I know they cannot be everywhere, you'd want to be a right numpty to think that, but there are no patrols anywhere! Hope that changes quickly.

    Charlie Flanagan needs to keep a weather eye on this for sure just in case there are any more backdoor shenanigans.


  • #65
    [Deleted User]
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    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    I know they cannot be everywhere, you'd want to be a right numpty to think that, but there are no patrols anywhere! Hope that changes quickly.
    .

    you don't see too many patrols of PSNI out in Northern Ireland either


  • #66
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Taytoland wrote: »
    Or the great Garda officers slaughtered by IRA scum. He will get on very  well with the Garda.

    The innocents slaughtered by the RUC and the British security forces were not in the IRA!

    Stop living in the past. Both could play this game all day. He's now the main man, get used to it.


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  • #67
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Taytoland wrote: »
    Stop living in the past. Both could play this game all day. He's now the main man, get used to it.

    Play what game? This man was apart of an organisation who killed innocents and he was heavily linked with an organisation who shot dead innocents on our streets. Why are you okay with that?


  • #68
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,004 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    bubblypop wrote: »
    you don't see too many patrols of PSNI out in Northern Ireland either

    I don't see them! Of course I don't, I live in the South.

    I'm not sure what your point is.

    Maybe Belfast or the likes are paragons of virtue and they don't need patrols anymore, but sure as heck city centre of Dublin does. I witnessed two incidents in the past week that were terrifying, but no police presence for the forty five minutes I was trapped in the shop before being released when the boys and girls in blue eventually turned up, someone could have been killed it was awful. Jaysus that's not right, neither am I after it either.

    Anyway just to say, we are talking about the South here. He will get the message I hope that cops are just not patrolling anymore at all, well at least in Dublin. Disgraceful in a capital city. But I blame the Supers, they are the managers, but the tail seems to wag the dog, or maybe it is just precedent. I dunno.

    There does not have to be a blanket police presence, but SOME presence would be reassuring. It is so obvious by its absence and I don't know why that is.


  • #69
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    pearcider wrote: »
    The vast majority down south supported them in their struggle against the orange lunatics.

    No doubt that's why SF were pulling in vote percentages well into the single digits.


  • #70
    feargale
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    so after a worldwide search of the worlds police forces this is the best they could appoint?

    absolute joke

    Explain please.


  • #71
    feargale
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Odhinn wrote: »
    ….the PSNI, formerly the RUC, notoriously secretive and a law unto themselves. He'll fit right in.

    You wouldn't know any other police force in that mold, would you?
    opinionated3 wrote: »
    The RUC were utter scum as well, or had you forgotten that.

    All of them? Or, like OP, do you mean simply that they were all Protestants?


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  • #72
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Play what game? This man was apart of an organisation who killed innocents and he was heavily linked with an organisation who shot dead innocents on our streets. Why are you okay with that?

    So is every single Sinn Fein party member.

    how many senior party members have blood on their hands or do you only apply your standards to the other side ?


  • #73
    pearcider
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    No doubt that's why SF were pulling in vote percentages well into the single digits.

    SF were to all intents and purposes defunct in the Republic since 1926. They then became FF who spent far longer in power than the blue shirts. The current SF from 1970 are really a Northern Ireland party and far too left wing for the south hence the low poll numbers. But hey don't let a bit of history get in the way of your sarcastic trolling.


  • #74
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    So is every single Sinn Fein party member.

    how many senior party members have blood on their hands or do you only apply your standards to the other side ?

    What Sinn Fein member has just been appointed Garda commissioner? Why are people here excusing murder?


  • #75
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    MOD the man's religion has nothing to do with his ability to do his job so I have removed it from the thread title.


  • #76
    Sheeps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Hope he takes some of that RUC murderous justice to the gang feuds that are going on across Dublin.


  • #77
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Feckin protestants..coming down here, taking our jobs..


  • #78
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Sheeps wrote: »
    Hope he takes some of that RUC murderous justice to the gang feuds that are going on across Dublin.

    The ruc killed many innocents!


  • #79
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    What Sinn Fein member has just been appointed Garda commissioner? Why are people here excusing murder?

    Plenty of them in the dail and in councils nationwide,

    im not excusing murders but treat them both the same why dont you ?

    Martin McGuinness was deputy first minister and a presidential candidate and most certainly was involved in murders

    Adams sat in the dail and ditto as well as many many more


  • #80
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    The ruc killed many innocents!

    shinnerbot gona overheat in the weather lol


  • #81
    jcd5971
    Registered Users Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭jcd5971


    Ah Jaysus lads he's a nordie so what, he has done a good job in an infinitely harder environment, and really could anyone be worse than the last few ones.


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  • #82
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    Plenty of them in the dail and in councils nationwide,

    im not excusing murders but treat them both the same why dont you ?

    Martin McGuinness was deputy first minister and a presidential candidate and most certainly was involved in murders

    Adams sat in the dail and ditto as well as many many more

    Who said different? This is a thread on the new Garda commissioner, what has that got to with Sinn Féin?

    Are you okay with the new Garda commissioner having been a member of and had links to groups who murdered innocents?


  • #83
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    shinnerbot gona overheat in the weather lol

    Do you have to be a shinner to be against the murder of innocent Irish people????


  • #84
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Glad it's not an internal appointment. There's some serious issues of corruption in the Gardai and someone external is needed to sort it out.


  • #85
    OldMrBrennan83
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #86
    badtoro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭badtoro


    Formerly of the RUC and has close links to British Intelligence. Nope, I'm not comfortable nor happy with that.


  • #87
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    shinnerbot gona overheat in the weather lol

    Well in fairness he's not wrong. It's nothing to do with Sinn Fein. It's the fact that the RUC were engaged in multiple counts of terrorist collusion as established by multiple investigations. David Cameron issued an apology over RUC terrorist collusion so by your logic he must be an udercover IRA man too.


  • #88
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,653 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    The innocents slaughtered by the RUC and the British security forces were not in the IRA!

    And the innocents slaughtered by the IRA were not in the RUC or British security forces.

    Honestly who really gives a fvck about his religion, give him a year and let's see if he does a good job or not.


  • #89
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And the innocents slaughtered by the IRA were not in the RUC or British security forces.

    Honestly who really gives a fvck about his religion, give him a year and let's see if he does a good job or not.

    The new Garda commissioner wasn't in the IRA! If he was then you'd raise a valid point but no, he was in the RUC who have a disgusting record of murder and violence.


  • #90
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,653 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Feckin protestants..coming down here, taking our jobs..

    As long as he's not drinking our beer or shagging our women he'll be ok.


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  • #91
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #92
    Allinall
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    Patww79 wrote: »
    I'd rather have someone from our terrorists than someone from their terrorists.

    Why?


  • #93
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    As I mentioned repeatedly on here my uncle set up the civil rights movement in NI and became a member of the SDLP. He was involved in RUC reform and says Drew has the same view of the RUC as many here. That is terrorist colluding sociopaths. It's worth noting that Drew said this of the police force:
    One of the region’s most senior officers, Deputy Chief Constable Drew Harris, said he was optimistic that if political and civic society worked with the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI), representation levels of Catholics at recruitment could reach 50 per cent within five years.

    In other words he made a big effort to remove the bigotry of the force.


  • #94
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,653 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    The new Garda commissioner wasn't in the IRA! If he was then you'd raise a valid point but no, he was in the RUC who have a disgusting record of murder and violence.

    And has been pointed out to you MANY Sinn fein members are also part of an organisation that have the same/worse decor. Where is your thread on them?

    I mean one day they might get into power (snigger) and one of them may become minister for justice (snigger, snigger) so surely that are just as dangerous to the country right?


  • #95
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    I hope he’s like that Inspector Campbell character from PeakyBlinders.


  • #96
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,653 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Patww79 wrote: »
    I'd rather have someone from our terrorists than someone from their terrorists.

    At least you're finally admitting that the IRA were terrorists ;)


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  • #97
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And has been pointed out to you MANY Sinn fein members are also part of an organisation that have the same/worse decor. Where is your thread on them?

    I mean one day they might get into power (snigger) and one of them may become minister for justice (snigger, snigger) so surely that are just as dangerous to the country right?

    What the hell is this? I don't support Sinn Féin, the IRA anyone. The murdered a load of people. What has that got to do with the ruc and the British security forces murdering innocents?


  • #98
    OldMrBrennan83
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #99
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Between this, the Price Harry visit and the hot weather, the Shinnerbots are going into meltdown.


  • #100
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,653 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    What the hell is this? I don't support Sinn Féin, the IRA anyone. The murdered a load of people. What has that got to do with the ruc and the British security forces murdering innocents?

    About as much to do with the thread as your own droning whines that you seem to think are coherent, RUC this British security forces that :rolleyes:

    Let the man do his job and let's see what happens and stop seeing black and tans under your bed.


  • #101
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    About as much to do with the thread as your own droning whines that you seem to think are coherent, RUC this British security forces that :rolleyes:

    Let the man do his job and let's see what happens and stop seeing black and tans under your bed.

    If it was a former IRA member appointed as Garda commissioner would you say the same?


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