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Clerical Officer 2020

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Jd292190


    I was batch 16 OOM 28 I reckon you will be offered in the next couple of months, theyve got through 12 people since jan 4th

    Hi hope you don’t mind me asking, how long after PAS contacted you did it take for the department to contact you? Just trying to gauge how long I should expect to wait, also were you told a location or just a department? Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Jd292190 wrote: »
    Hi hope you don’t mind me asking, how long after PAS contacted you did it take for the department to contact you? Just trying to gauge how long I should expect to wait, also were you told a location or just a department? Thanks!

    Last year, I got my results 3 weeks after my interview. However it took a further 8 months for a department to contact me with a job offer. Told a department for assignment & the county it was in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Jd292190


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Last year, I got my results 3 weeks after my interview. However it took a further 8 months for a department to contact me with a job offer. Told a department for assignment & the county it was in.

    Thanks, I did my interview in November and got the results the 2 days after, I’ve already been contacted since and submitted vetting and references I’m just looking to know roughly how long that person had to wait after that stage for the department to contact them as they are only a few places ahead of me in the batch we are in and have already got an offer. I’m just being impatient tbh :-D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Jd292190 wrote: »
    Thanks, I did my interview in November and got the results the 2 days after, I’ve already been contacted since and submitted vetting and references I’m just looking to know roughly how long that person had to wait after that stage for the department to contact them as they are only a few places ahead of me in the batch we are in and have already got an offer. I’m just being impatient tbh :-D


    Hope I helped.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Tashajulia1993


    Jd292190 wrote: »
    Hi hope you don’t mind me asking, how long after PAS contacted you did it take for the department to contact you? Just trying to gauge how long I should expect to wait, also were you told a location or just a department? Thanks!

    So my interview was November 11th, I found out I passed my interview, and recieved my OOM exactly a week after my interview, then heard nothing until january 6th. But obviously with xmas in between it took a little longer for me to be contacted. Also I was just told I was under consideration for a job with an garda siochana (AGS) I will be told the location after my guarda vetting comes back, which I have been informed can take anywhere from 12-16 weeks.

    Best of luck hope you hear soon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Last year, I got my results 3 weeks after my interview. However it took a further 8 months for a department to contact me with a job offer. Told a department for assignment & the county it was in.

    Ahh, weren't you are TCO? This is the permanent panel thread, and it works quite differently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Ahh, weren't you are TCO? This is the permanent panel thread, and it works quite differently.

    My apologies .


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Catd1980


    Hi, does anyone know if there has been any movement on the Laois panel?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Jd292190


    So my interview was November 11th, I found out I passed my interview, and recieved my OOM exactly a week after my interview, then heard nothing until january 6th. But obviously with xmas in between it took a little longer for me to be contacted. Also I was just told I was under consideration for a job with an garda siochana (AGS) I will be told the location after my guarda vetting comes back, which I have been informed can take anywhere from 12-16 weeks.



    Best of luck hope you hear soon!


    Thanks so much for replying, seems to be different with me they have just said I’m under consideration for a position with no further info, I’ll just have to wait it out! Best of luck in your new position, hope you’re not too long waiting on vetting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 telebingo94


    Is €24,586 the correct starting starting salary for a CO?


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  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Is €24,586 the correct starting starting salary for a CO?

    Yes, €471.20 before USC, PAYE, PRSI and pension.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    I would put it on my CV mark it as a temporary contract of 8 weeks. Employers don't like to see gaps in your CV .

    Thank you

    Is it common that probationary contracts be terminated after the conclusion of probation period?
    In this case would you advise it worthwhile to even apply for any future TCO/co campaigns?


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭EmmetWhitey


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Thank you

    Is it common that probationary contracts be terminated after the conclusion of probation period?
    In this case would you advise it worthwhile to even apply for any future TCO/co campaigns?

    It is common for TCO contracts to not be renewed.

    It is almost unheard of for someone to fail the probation period. You would need to be a special kind of **** up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Hi I am me123
    Sorry you didn't get extended but a lot of the time TCO contracts don't get extended you only hear of the odd one getting extended depending on department.
    The CO panel as far as I'm aware comes out every two years but last year's CO was only a year for whatever reason I don't know? Also apply for TCO as you can always refuse or take it and if your CO comes up in the meantime , you take that over TCO. Good luck

    Thanks Sweetiesloth

    Just to mention that my contract was called a 'probationary contract' and was told it was to be terminated.
    Is it common for these types of contracts to be not renewed?
    Just to mention also that my job offer stated it was an open contract for a minimum of 8 weeks. I had just finished 8 weeks service just before Christmas
    I was informed my above contract was being terminated upon my return to work this week. Does this sound like I was dismissed or that my contract had reached its natural conclusion, seeing as I was offered minimum 8 weeks, and had just completed this length of service?

    Sorry for the long post.
    Thanks


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Thanks Sweetiesloth

    Just to mention that my contract was called a 'probationary contract' and was told it was to be terminated.
    Is it common for these types of contracts to be not renewed?
    Just to mention also that my job offer stated it was an open contract for a minimum of 8 weeks. I had just finished 8 weeks service just before Christmas
    I was informed my above contract was being terminated upon my return to work this week. Does this sound like I was dismissed or that my contract had reached its natural conclusion, seeing as I was offered minimum 8 weeks, and had just completed this length of service?

    Sorry for the long post.
    Thanks

    You're reading into this way too much. You were told you'd be employed for 8 weeks and you did those 8 weeks. If you were being kept on for any length of time after those 8 weeks you would have been contacted by your HR department and issued with another contract with a specified number of weeks on it. Most TCOs are not kept on longer than their initial contracts. There are other factors at play as well such as budget for staff costs, workload, recruitment of permanent staff, people returning from some form of leave etc. that determine what number of extensions, if any, are required. You are free to apply for any other temporary or permanent campaigns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    You're reading into this way too much. You were told you'd be employed for 8 weeks and you did those 8 weeks. If you were being kept on for any length of time after those 8 weeks you would have been contacted by your HR department and issued with another contract with a specified number of weeks on it. Most TCOs are not kept on longer than their initial contracts. There are other factors at play as well such as budget for staff costs, workload, recruitment of permanent staff, people returning from some form of leave etc. that determine what number of extensions, if any, are required. You are free to apply for any other temporary or permanent campaigns.

    Sorry Nigel Fairservice. Thank you for help. I appreciate it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭bangors85


    Hi all, does anyone know what’s happening with full time co panel, I did my exam last March , got 83 for cork and haven’t been called yet?? Do u think they will call me ? Or will panel expire, apparently only called 56 for cork?? Or will they start new panel ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭tiny14


    bangors85 wrote: »
    Hi all, does anyone know what’s happening with full time co panel, I did my exam last March , got 83 for cork and haven’t been called yet?? Do u think they will call me ? Or will panel expire, apparently only called 56 for cork?? Or will they start new panel ?

    Alot of areas moving very slow im afraid i applied for limerick / tipp and limerick only at 25 since march and tipp bit further up im in early 100’s for limerick and early 70’s for tipp but if im honest i cabt see them reaching my number in limerick anyway to get called for interview & cork prob the same moving slow due to covid & alot of staff working from home too & panel open til may so fingers crossed


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Sweetiesloth


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Thank you

    Is it common that probationary contracts be terminated after the conclusion of probation period?
    In this case would you advise it worthwhile to even apply for any future TCO/co campaigns?

    Am I right in saying you got a TCO contract for 8 weeks? If yes, you have finished your 8 week contract. Very rare a contract will be extended only the odd time depending on the department. When you take a TCO contract you go in thinking that its only for the 8 weeks only or whatever time your contract is for. You have a probationary period but quite honestly, I have never known anyone to fail this. Your time is done and you have finished 2020 TCO panel.

    Of course it is worthwhile applying for TCO panel and CO panel whenever the next one is out. You apply for everything as you have to keep your options opened.

    I take it you are on this year's TCO Panel and did you apply for CO panel just gone? Any panel you see and you feel you want to apply for just apply for it and see where you come. You have nothing to loose.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Am I right in saying you got a TCO contract for 8 weeks? If yes, you have finished your 8 week contract. Very rare a contract will be extended only the odd time depending on the department. When you take a TCO contract you go in thinking that its only for the 8 weeks only or whatever time your contract is for. You have a probationary period but quite honestly, I have never known anyone to fail this. Your time is done and you have finished 2020 TCO panel.

    Of course it is worthwhile applying for TCO panel and CO panel whenever the next one is out. You apply for everything as you have to keep your options opened.

    I take it you are on this year's TCO Panel and did you apply for CO panel just gone? Any panel you see and you feel you want to apply for just apply for it and see where you come. You have nothing to loose.

    Thanks.
    My offer stated the contract was an open contract for a mimimum of 8 weeks. I note the word mimimum as meaning I could have got more than 8 weeks.
    I didnt apply for the 2021 TCO competition.
    I intend to apply for the 2021 clerical officer campaign when the application process opens.
    I didn't think to enquire about a reference from my manager when I left, but am not even sure if they'd give me a reference or a good reference. Would it be appropriate to email them and ask?
    I've heard it is illegal for an employer to give a bad reference, either they give a good reference or none at all. Is this accurate?


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 telebingo94


    Yes, €471.20 before USC, PAYE, PRSI and pension.

    Thanks. And is this paid weekly or monthly usually?


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Thanks. And is this paid weekly or monthly usually?

    COs are paid weekly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    COs are paid weekly.

    Fortnightly in local authorities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Tashajulia1993


    Xenji wrote: »
    Fortnightly in local authorities.

    What would be considered a local authority if you dont mind me asking?


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    What would be considered a local authority if you dont mind me asking?

    City and county councils. They would be public servants, not civil servants.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Tashajulia1993


    City and county councils. They would be public servants, not civil servants.

    Ok thank you, so AGS would still be weekly pay?


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Ok thank you, so AGS would still be weekly pay?

    They are weekly, civil service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Sweetiesloth


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Thanks.
    My offer stated the contract was an open contract for a mimimum of 8 weeks. I note the word mimimum as meaning I could have got more than 8 weeks.
    I didnt apply for the 2021 TCO competition.
    I intend to apply for the 2021 clerical officer campaign when the application process opens.
    I didn't think to enquire about a reference from my manager when I left, but am not even sure if they'd give me a reference or a good reference. Would it be appropriate to email them and ask?
    I've heard it is illegal for an employer to give a bad reference, either they give a good reference or none at all. Is this accurate?


    'Minimum' is a standard wording and is used in every contract. Yours was 8 weeks and you done your 8 weeks. You were unfortunate to get a short contract but unfortunately that is the luck of the draw when applying for TCO . You either accept or decline and that's you done for that year's panel.

    You doubt yourself all the time. There shouldn't be any reason for you to get a bad reference from your contract.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Molly2016


    Hi there any idea of no their on in kerry thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭beenhad


    Looking for advice, was originally offered a permanent post with AGS they cancelled as I got an email stating that my previous TCO department had requested to retain me. I refused other job offers also as I thought I was just waiting on start date ect. I received outstanding references from both my previous employers both civil service temp contracts. I was informed all I needed was to forward references. I received another email from clearance stating that they'd rescinded offer due to 23 days sick leave. 16 - 19 were due to close contacts of covid. I was fine. My GP asked me to leave the building on one occasion and the other occasion my EO sent me home. I have applied for appeal but no information has been sent back to me. I can't get a human on the phone! Any advice please? I'm devastated. Working through pandemic got 2 buses to work up at 6 not home until 7.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭Kirbi


    This seems weird - I thought that kind of leave wouldn't be on your sick record at all?

    It should be special leave due to covid, I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭bangors85


    Did you have to do interview for permanent?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭Samsgirl


    beenhad wrote: »
    Looking for advice, was originally offered a permanent post with AGS they cancelled as I got an email stating that my previous TCO department had requested to retain me. I refused other job offers also as I thought I was just waiting on start date ect. I received outstanding references from both my previous employers both civil service temp contracts. I was informed all I needed was to forward references. I received another email from clearance stating that they'd rescinded offer due to 23 days sick leave. 16 - 19 were due to close contacts of covid. I was fine. My GP asked me to leave the building on one occasion and the other occasion my EO sent me home. I have applied for appeal but no information has been sent back to me. I can't get a human on the phone! Any advice please? I'm devastated. Working through pandemic got 2 buses to work up at 6 not home until 7.

    Covid leave / isolation does not count towards your cumulative sick leave. There should be a HR directive on that. Google should point you in the right direction. HRM who look after HR for AGS might be helpful to you. Im not at work at the moment so I don't have contact details for them but should be easy enough to find online.

    I know if you're in your probationary period the allowance for sick days is 21 days before it can affect promotion or being made permanent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Kerrybell


    Molly2016 wrote: »
    Hi there any idea of no their on in kerry thanks


    I emailed Monday, they have called as far as no 22 for Kerry and 60 for Cork


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭ricksanchez


    Anyone know if there's been much movement in Dublin?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 sineadglam


    Anyone know if there's been much movement in Dublin?

    Batch 16 oom in the 50's

    Confirmed with PAS this morning


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Yogibear 1


    Hi I was wondering if anyone can help, I was assigned to the Department if Justice in a certain county in early December after Garda vetting was complete I got an email from justice HR just confirm addresses, as they were doing a security check, this was also early December. I was told location of the dept of justice so it is not an AGS assignment, does it normally take so long for a security check, I understand with level 5 restrictions may be delayed but I also emailed justice HR last week got automated reply and that is it ? Anyone assignment delayed in the Department of Justice ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Question re - permanent Clerical Officer campaigns..

    Are they a 'closed shop' as it were?

    Are TCO's who have passed their probationary period and proven to be up to the job generally the only candidates considered for positions if they have applied for same?

    All advice welcome.
    Thanks


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Question re - permanent Clerical Officer campaigns..

    Are they a 'closed shop' as it were?

    Are TCO's who have passed their probationary period and proven to be up to the job generally the only candidates considered for positions if they have applied for same?

    All advice welcome.
    Thanks

    No, there is no favouritism if you've been a TCO previously. Everyone is treated the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭Bicyclette


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Question re - permanent Clerical Officer campaigns..

    Are they a 'closed shop' as it were?

    Are TCO's who have passed their probationary period and proven to be up to the job generally the only candidates considered for positions if they have applied for same?

    All advice welcome.
    Thanks

    The CO campaigns are run separately from the TCO campaign. Everyone does the competency tests and their merit is allocated on that basis. The only time you might have an advantage is during the interview process because you know what the work entails and you have an idea how the CS works. But everyone is treated fairly. They are looking for the best people for the job. And there are some very talented people, who have not done TCO work, who apply for the CO positions.

    I know some long-serving TCOs who didn't do well in the competency tests in the CO campaign.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 sineadglam


    Yogibear 1 wrote: »
    Hi I was wondering if anyone can help, I was assigned to the Department if Justice in a certain county in early December after Garda vetting was complete I got an email from justice HR just confirm addresses, as they were doing a security check, this was also early December. I was told location of the dept of justice so it is not an AGS assignment, does it normally take so long for a security check, I understand with level 5 restrictions may be delayed but I also emailed justice HR last week got automated reply and that is it ? Anyone assignment delayed in the Department of Justice ?

    Yes unfortunately AGS and DoJ both have extensive in depth vetting. 12 weeks plus is what most people are waiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Bicyclette wrote: »
    The CO campaigns are run separately from the TCO campaign. Everyone does the competency tests and their merit is allocated on that basis. The only time you might have an advantage is during the interview process because you know what the work entails and you have an idea how the CS works. But everyone is treated fairly. They are looking for the best people for the job. And there are some very talented people, who have not done TCO work, who apply for the CO positions.

    I know some long-serving TCOs who didn't do well in the competency tests in the CO campaign.

    Thanks. If someone has previously held a post as a TCO or CO within a certain period of time, are they exempt from stage 2 interview or am I mistaken when applying for the permanant campaign?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Thanks. If someone has previously held a post as a TCO or CO within a certain period of time, are they exempt from stage 2 interview or am I mistaken when applying for the permanant campaign?

    In the TCO 2021 campaign, a person that completed a TCO contract in the past 3 years were exempt from the Interview stage. however this is the first year that has occurred.

    The permanent CO campaign is completely separate from the TCO. If you apply for the CO role, you will need to go through the Interview Stage.

    The interview for the TCO and CO are similar in format except for time. The TCO interview is usually 15-20 mins, While the permanent CO is about 40 mins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭Bicyclette


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Thanks. If someone has previously held a post as a TCO or CO within a certain period of time, are they exempt from stage 2 interview or am I mistaken when applying for the permanant campaign?

    In the past there have only been CO competitions every two years. E.g. 2016, 2018, 2020.

    I applied for the 2016 CO competition, did the aptitude tests in late 2016. In 2017, I was offered a 6 month TCO contract. I was still working as a TCO when I was called for interview for a permanent CO position.

    The interview was about competencies, previous work and life experience and other things. My interview was similar to that of others who didn't have previous experience as a TCO. The PAS needs to be seen as fair and impartial. Questions need to be standardised.

    My HEO was asked for a reference. But any other current employer would have been asked for a reference, regardless of where the person was employed.

    Reading through some of your previous posts, I'm not sure you fully understand how the PAS works. If you are offered an eight week contract, you work for eight weeks. Only in exceptional circumstances will a temporary contract be extended. There has to be a really strong business case made. And even then, there is no guarantee.

    Temporary Clerical Officer Jobs do not lead to Permanent Clerical Officer Jobs. Very occasionally things dovetail really well for people - as in my case (I was incredibly lucky) - but this is very much the exception and coincidental, rather than engineered.

    The situation this year is very strange. Some locations who would usually had one or more TCOs have had none. In certain cases, staff who leave are not being replaced. Flexi-time and over-time are no-longer available for most people and those working from home are working harder, smarter and sometimes longer (its common enough for people to work more than their core hours). People have had to be flexible, adaptive and creative in their work.

    In a nutshell, you were exceptionally lucky to have got eight weeks temporary work. Don't rock the boat. Don't let people think you have a sense of entitlement. You may need those references going forward.


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 telebingo94


    Bicyclette wrote: »
    In the past there have only been CO competitions every two years. E.g. 2016, 2018, 2020.

    I applied for the 2016 CO competition, did the aptitude tests in late 2016. In 2017, I was offered a 6 month TCO contract. I was still working as a TCO when I was called for interview for a permanent CO position.

    The interview was about competencies, previous work and life experience and other things. My interview was similar to that of others who didn't have previous experience as a TCO. The PAS needs to be seen as fair and impartial. Questions need to be standardised.

    My HEO was asked for a reference. But any other current employer would have been asked for a reference, regardless of where the person was employed.

    Reading through some of your previous posts, I'm not sure you fully understand how the PAS works. If you are offered an eight week contract, you work for eight weeks. Only in exceptional circumstances will a temporary contract be extended. There has to be a really strong business case made. And even then, there is no guarantee.

    Temporary Clerical Officer Jobs do not lead to Permanent Clerical Officer Jobs. Very occasionally things dovetail really well for people - as in my case (I was incredibly lucky) - but this is very much the exception and coincidental, rather than engineered.

    The situation this year is very strange. Some locations who would usually had one or more TCOs have had none. In certain cases, staff who leave are not being replaced. Flexi-time and over-time are no-longer available for most people and those working from home are working harder, smarter and sometimes longer (its common enough for people to work more than their core hours). People have had to be flexible, adaptive and creative in their work.

    In a nutshell, you were exceptionally lucky to have got eight weeks temporary work. Don't rock the boat. Don't let people think you have a sense of entitlement. You may need those references going forward.

    Thank you for all this info. Is flexi-time not available due to the Covid situation ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭Bicyclette


    Thank you for all this info. Is flexi-time not available due to the Covid situation ?

    A significant proportion of people are working from home. We have a different type of flexibility, so flexi-time has been suspended. Some people who are working in the office do have flexi-time but there aren't a lot of people.

    Our working week is now spread over seven days, which allows people the ability to fit their work around childcare, in many cases. Generally people do a Monday to Friday. But you can start earlier and work later and if you don't get the work done and your hours worked up between Monday and Friday, you can catch up on Saturday and/or Sunday.

    Clearly there can be deadlines at certain times, and screen meetings where you need to be present. But my personal experience is that senior management understand that lots of people are trying to juggle lots of things at lots of different times. Yes, there are times when you'd love to work up some time and spend a full day in bed or out in the garden reading a book. But then you think of times you've had to take a child or a parent to a medical appointment or a dental appointment or even do a click and collect at a specific time and how much easier it is to do now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Bicyclette wrote: »
    If you are offered an eight week contract, you work for eight weeks. Only in exceptional circumstances will a temporary contract be extended. There has to be a really strong business case made. And even then, there is no guarantee.

    An absolutely spot-on post.

    One thing to add: I am aware of one agency which has sometimes offered contracts of unspecified duration. They promise 8 weeks minimum, but some people are kept on for longer if the volume of work is there. (Hint: think which agency has had some huge changes in volume of work this year. as hundreds of thousands of people have applied for things at short notice).

    I suspect they have a statement like "and a maximum of 12 months" or similar - but haven't seen one to confirm: there's likely some verbal gymnastics to be 100% clear that this is NOT a contract of indefinite duration (the legal jargon for permanent), so they are probably confusing to red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭I am me123


    An absolutely spot-on post.

    One thing to add: I am aware of one agency which has sometimes offered contracts of unspecified duration. They promise 8 weeks minimum, but some people are kept on for longer if the volume of work is there. (Hint: think which agency has had some huge changes in volume of work this year. as hundreds of thousands of people have applied for things at short notice).

    I suspect they have a statement like "and a maximum of 12 months" or similar - but haven't seen one to confirm: there's likely some verbal gymnastics to be 100% clear that this is NOT a contract of indefinite duration (the legal jargon for permanent), so they are probably confusing to red.

    Thank you. My job offer stated that it was 'an open contract for a minimum of 8 weeks'. TBF I did my 8 week stint, with the 8 weeks finishing just before Christmas, with me being let go just after Christmas. Also it mentioned that my appointment 'could not result in a contract of indefinite duration' so I guess that indicates that I'd be finishing up there sooner than later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭ari101


    I am me123 wrote: »
    Also it mentioned that my appointment 'could not result in a contract of indefinite duration' so I guess that indicates that I'd be finishing up there sooner than later.

    This is included for legal reasons. Contracts of indefinite duration have legal rights similar to permanent contracts. If someone is on a temp contract with no specified end date, this language prevents them from claiming it is a contract of indefinite duration and should continue. (This is separate to the time length after which, regardless of specified end date, I believe all temp/fixed contracts automatically become CIDs. I don't remember the specifics of the amount of time but it is a couple of years.).


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    Family member in Dublin was sent an eoi for customs, I see they have sent them out a couple of times since last year but they are wondering if anyone went for the role if they had feedback on it on now they are finding things, are you given any option of where to work eg airport/port/mail centre ect?


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