Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Definitely irreconcilable differences with most of the posters on here.

Perhaps if she'd done something rather than continuing with what Noel Curran had done, while he was their. She seems to know nothing about the service she runs. What happened 1 RTÉ policy. Has she been an effective DG? As we come to the end of her term.

Why would you expect to be able to use the RTÉ Player when you're out of the country? That's like UK viewers wanting to be able to use the BBC iPlayer when they're outside the UK.

It took me a while to realise that you were being sarcastic when you said that TG4 isn't a PSB.

Licence renewal came in the post recently. Given the ineptitude of RTE and An Post to collect this from large number of householders - you start wondering why bother to pay. If the neighbour up the road isn't arsed and nothing is done about it, then are we the fools?

But Netflix and Disney aim their output at a global audience - the BBC does not do that with the iPlayer.

What legal IPTV subscriptions are there in Ireland? Presumably they cost something, so that offsets your TV licence savings somewhat.

Not only that but 34% of what An Post "collect" is actually from Dept of Welfare. Though they changed their count this year.

An Post collect 950,000 TV licenses or there abouts in 2021, they get 10m to 15m for that service!

So the Future of Media Commission report is to be published.

Funding for RTÉ recommendations to be ignored by government.

Instead government will now set up a new working group and enact legislation so that everyone will pay the license.

Right, good job everyone!

TBH I don't think the people on the Future of Media Commission were experts, I think they were following a set of conclusions, and it was ultimately going to be a waste of time and energy.

The government should have met with An Post and asked them why they were only able to collect 50% of the license fees, and how had it come to a situation were €12m was being given to An Post for the last 20 years with no real change on the numbers not paying.

I'd say only about 20% of the 25% that aren't collected represent people without a "TV" and that wouldn't have been the case 20 or 10 years ago.

Just to clarify my figures here are best guess.

1. TV Licences collected 50%
2. Welfare paid licenses 25%
3. TV Licences evaded 20%
4. TV Licences avoided 5%

The 50 Conclusion which could be problably just 3 (and may an DIE 4th)

RefHeading

2-1Valuing Public Service Content as critical public infrastructure

2-2Addressing Environmental Sustainability

2-3EDI monitoring, data and research

2-4EDI Standards

2-5Diversity Boards and Leadership

2-6Diversity Education, Training and Employment

2-7Accessibility

5-1New Public Funding Model for Public Service Media

5-2Interim funding arrangements for the 2021-2023 period

5-3Increasing Accountability and Transparency

5-4Audience Engagement

5-5Interim funding for RTÉ

5-6Focus on Value for Money and Efficiencies

5-7RTÉ to invest in innovation

5-8Developing commercial revenues

5-9RTÉ to reduce deficit financing and stabilise expenditure

5-10Collaboration with independent production sector

6-1Convert the Broadcasting Fund into a Media Fund

6-2Establish a Local Democracy Reporting Scheme

6-3Establish supports for digital transformation

6-4Establish News Reporting Schemes

6-5Establish Courts Reporting Schemes

6-6Establish a Media Access and Training Scheme

6-7Establish a Community Media Scheme

6-8Funding Level for Media Fund

6-9Implement the Copyright Directive, assess its effectiveness and take further action if necessary

6-10Examine indirect tax measures to support PSCPs

6-11Explore collaboration opportunities for PSM content re-use

6-12Independent oversight of all public funding streams for journalism

6-13All Island Media Economy

7-1Editorial control for TG4 over its news services

7-2Comprehensive review of the provision of Irish language services

7-3RTÉ should give a greater priority to the Irish language

7-4Implement Irish language provisions in funding schemes

7-5Review of the Archiving Scheme

7-6Establish audiovisual content levy and fund

7-7Audiovisual Strategy to establish Ireland as a key source of entertainment content for the international on-demand market

7-8Improve investment in Independent Production

7-9Develop a Strategic Plan for sports broadcasting and promotion

7-10Diversity and Inclusion strategy for sports reporting and broadcasting

7-11Education and training

8-1Objects and Principles of PSM

8-2Independence and Funding of PSM

8-3Resourcing Effective Regulation and Development

8-4Regulation of the Independent Sector

8-5Changes to Regulatory Provisions for PSC Funding

8-6Prominence-related data

8-7Defamation

8-8Disinformation

8-9Providing a statutory basis for the Media Commission’s expanded remit

So this is what is happening from what I understand re: The Licence Fee

1. A working group included a list of stakeholders is going to be set up to report on the Licence Fee by November.
2. The budget will outline an some extra money for RTÉ why An Post sort out the collection of the fee.
3. Meantime those avoiding or evading the fee will continue to do so while the government will make up those fees in the budget
4. In other words no change yet but those of you foolish enough to pay for the licence continue to do so while we will pay for the TV licence spongers.

Look 2.4m profit. Just don't mention how that could have been potentially €10m had the NSO moved across to the NCH as planned, but sure who's having an existential crisis!

If only the NSO had moved to the NCH as was supposed to happen in 2021, I wonder why the NCH and RTÉ were unable to make the transfer happen in 2021 lossing RTÉ 8m in fund, tut tut tut.

2FM has turned a corner, they've turned a corner, just took them 10 years and nearly 50million euro from the license fee.

RTÉ 2FM’s Dan Healy said he is happy with listenership figures and that the “two big risks” he took in shaking up the station have paid off.

I think he might consider bring back Dempsey at this point!

Piffling makey uppey figures - when it stands on its own through advertising then that is a sign of they're doing something right, not by being bailed out

They are rotten to the fcuking core……

Yeah it is if they are not corrupt they are incompetent.

Have they made any moves to even change the grading system in the company or this just something they say they are looking at.

Here is a company who was give the opportunity to divulge itself of the NSO (worth a saving of 7m) in 2021, only this company with their existential crisis was only able to move the company over in 2022, after 4 years of negotiations with the NCH!

NIMAN your doing well with 25 days :)

I sadly counted up the number days hols for both Byrne and Tubs

Tubs had 39 last year

Byrne had 42

Byrne takes most of them during August but is only up to 25days so she'll be on and of the air much more between now and Xmas.

Both are basically taking a week off every month.

I have no problem with the license fee in what ever form it comes in, however RTÉ needs route and branch reforms before such changes should be made.

I believe if government were to change the way in which the licence fee is collected and RTÉ were to get more money. Tubs would be on 80days holiday and have his salary doubled. (But if that's what it takes to see/hear less of him...)

Well seemingly this guy apparently "published a number of books including histories of the republican movement and of the Communist Party of Ireland" so there should be a few brain cells rattling round there.

But this actually illustrates the point I've been making that if you replaced the licence with direct exchequer funding, people, even seemingly politically aware people, would stop noticing or caring that the money for RTE was still ultimately coming out of their pockets. Just as nobody seemingly pays any mind to TG4's funding arrangements. So I think it would make a lot of sense for the political establishment and don't really understand why it was rejected out of hand.