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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    You'd really have to ask Patrick Freyne but he completely ignored the channel.

    @elperello I'd love to know what parts of the piece you thought was good. Because honestly I couldn't see much. I thought Dee Forbes part was nonsensical.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Jarhead_Tendler


    One thing that annoys me is I pay the 160 euro for the tv licence and then when I go on holidays I can't use the rte player. Would be great to be able to watch the GAA without having to go to a pub.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Are you signed up to any of the pay tv providers? AFAIK they have to provide you with access to what every subscription you have at home across Europe not sure how it works.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,578 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Whatever system the RTE Player uses to show the ads always works flawlessly...

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Jarhead_Tendler


    No i don't think I am. At home I have pipe with 30 something channels with a local company and then my Netflix and Disney etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,137 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Back up there 🙂

    I didn't say any part was good, I said it was worth a look.

    As you know I've been promoting the idea of public consultation about public service broadcasting for ages on here.

    Naturally enough then I found the contributions of the interviewees interesting.

    I agreed with some and disagreed with others, but that's not important, the actual exercise was worthwhile in itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Jarhead_Tendler




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Oh! Kind of like this thread that's been going since Dee Forbre's became DG.

    For example Ed Guiney

    Q. What's your favourite RTÉ broadcast?

    A. It's a while ago now but Scrap Saturday was a brilliant show - caustic, daring, provocative and very funny. Also loved Home School Hub during the pandemic - it is pbs at its best and I lived the scrappy energy and passionate commitment to serving an audience in an entertaining and engaging way.

    So what the discussion? perhaps both Gift Grub (Bauer) and Callan Kick's (RTÉ) replace Scrap Saturday, while a programme like Home School Hub is only available during a pandemic, perhaps News2day is enough?

    We can expand what the people are saying.

    I could even say that Ed Guiney's Normal People and Conversation with Friends really have nothing to do with RTÉ, and that Harry Wild isn't something that should have such a big production budget.

    But perhaps I too could be criticized that RTÉ should be promoting Irish content and that at the very least that is something where no public discussion should take place. In actually fact I think form this report that Dee Forbes agrees with me.

    But as always happy to hear a view.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So one of the questions posed to the people interviewed was

    How Should public broassting be funded?

    Paul Farrell (VMTV CEO) - Agrees with public funding but suggests that RTÉ ONE, NEWS and Radio 1 have no advertising. (This has been suggested on many occassion here on boards, though many think all the rest should be dropped).

    Ed Guiney (Co-founder of Element Pictures) - Retained in some form

    Sarah MCInerney (RTÉ Radio Presenter) - Retained but no real view

    Darren Smith (Kite Entertainment) - Not Asked/Not Answered

    Kim Bartley (filmmaker) - not asked/not answered

    Cormac O hEadhra (RTÉ Radio Presenter) - not sure what he is saying, if you want in depth analysis it should be funded???

    Diarmaid Ferriter (Historian) - does say if he agrees but he sees the problem with direct funding

    Marian Keyes (Novelist) - is against direct funding, due to government bias etc

    Fergal Keane (BBC Reporter) - not asked not answered

    Debbie Ging (Lecturer DCU) - not asked not answered

    Larry Bass (Shinawhil) - License Fee not fit for purpose - wants dedicated fund

    Siobhán McSweeney (Actress) - not asked not answered

    Peter McKenna (Ireland's only TV Drama writer along with Lisa McGee) - old fashioned, should be exchequrer funded

    Vincent Browne (Former RTÉ/TV3 current affair presenter) - He thinks it should be divided between those who provided public service current affairs but questions how does that work without government interference ???

    Mark Little (Former RTÉ presenter) - get rid of licence fee, replace with direct funding, says focusing on just RTÉ's funding is myopic, should be how do we protect and fund public accessible facts and culture?

    Dee Forbes (the person on the title of this thread) - out of date, old fashioned etc


    Not one person against the license fee or funding, now I think it should be funded but I respect those who don't think this way enough to let them say so.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Licence fee should be €100 to fund the following:

    • One national radio station
    • One national TV station
    • One online player/app with a skip ads after 5 seconds function

    with the following stipulations

    • Amount of broadcasting time given over to advertising limited to set minutes per hour
    • licence fee linked to inflation and collected with property tax
    • all Irish produced programmes
    • the TV licence tendered every five years in line with Presidential Elections and voted for by the people

    There is no way RTE should be national broadcaster since 1962 without ever having to apply for a licence to do so. It should be opened to competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,172 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Let's not forget that RTE already get a fair whack of money off the government in addition to the licence fee and that's not counting all the money they made with the advertising



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,414 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Netflix should get a refund of half the millions in VAT they pay in the country back on condition it's used to produce programming in Ireland 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly



    • RTÉ/TG4 can only have an average of 6mins per hour across 24 hours and a max of 9mins in an hour.
    • It is currently linked to inflation but they've not implemented that since 2009 I think, collection method hasn'tc changed
    • I'd agree, with a mix of some high end programming from abroad.
    • Pres election is every 7 years, the company that collects the fee is up for election e.g. An Post?

    Not sure about the last part, RTÉ are state owned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,137 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    To be accurate DF was in the job for 2 years before this thread was created.

    Let's put it down to a honeymoon period.

    It is indeed good to hear people's views.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Did they honeymoon period end at 2 years or is she still in her honeymoon period.

    Any views yourself?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,172 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    I overheard Lyric FM the other day, some guy called Hamilton presenting.

    I bet my sister 1000 EUR, it couldnt be George Hamilton, the retired RTE sports presenter.

    I mean, WTF ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Hamiltons a made guy innit, he'll be looked after by the capo dei capi in Montrosia till the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    He has been presenting on Lyric FM since the start AFAIK, if not for at least the last decade if not more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,137 ✭✭✭✭elperello




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Perhaps if she'd done something rather than continuing with what Noel Curran had done, while he was their. She seems to know nothing about the service she runs. What happened 1 RTÉ policy. Has she been an effective DG? As we come to the end of her term.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Did you not know that he has a weekly column on classical music in the Review section of the Indo on Saturdays?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Why would you expect to be able to use the RTÉ Player when you're out of the country? That's like UK viewers wanting to be able to use the BBC iPlayer when they're outside the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭political analyst


    How are RTÉ and BBC Studios able to get a third series out of 'Smother', which is shown by RTÉ and then by the subscription channel 'W' in the UK?! By the way, I never watched 'Smother'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭political analyst


    It took me a while to realise that you were being sarcastic when you said that TG4 isn't a PSB.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    W is no longer subscription and I think it aired on Alibi originally which I think is still subscription. Watch the first season it was a bit meh so didn't look at the second. It's a BBC Studios production for RTÉ.... and UKTV but I am not sure how that works. (BBC Studios own UKTV).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Jarhead_Tendler


    Well why not? It is 2022 not 1999. I can sign into Netflix or Disney from abroad.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ are working on a sign on, though I hope that it is a choice rather than something necessary, and I wonder if the sign on will allow you the same access when abroad. As I say there are EU rule surrounding pay tv but I am not sure if they extend to local providers, but you need to ask them if you can sign on abroad to gain access to RTÉ, TG4 and VMTV and other channels that they provide.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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