2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

namloc1980 wrote: »

The more the right wing media and Trump fans play up and believe that Biden has serious cognitive issues the better it is for Biden. I say let them at it.

I said this earlier in the thread, or maybe in the previous thread.


All the efforts to paint Biden as suffering serious 'cognitive decline' (or whatever the phrase is that has been parroted endlessly on here) may well come back to haunt them if he does even a reasonable job at the debates.

DangerScouse wrote: »

Biden is looking increasingly lost and confused up there. It would be the decent thing to do for the Democrats to have a word with him and have him step aside. He's an alright guy and deserves better than being made look so pathetic infront of the camera.

I fear for him come the debates.

You keep posting variants of this comment. It was old and unoriginal a month ago and it hasn't gotten fresher.

DangerScouse wrote: »

Biden is looking increasingly lost and confused up there. It would be the decent thing to do for the Democrats to have a word with him and have him step aside. He's an alright guy and deserves better than being made look so pathetic infront of the camera.

I fear for him come the debates.

Have you an independent thought of your own or are you going to keep trotting out this totally fabricated talking point not absolutely no one gives any creedance to bar the trumpettes

Thye weird thing is, Biden is actually quite an easy target, particularly if they go after his policy positions. The problem for Trump, and thus his supporters, is that Trump is actually even worse and as such the only real line of attack can be personal. But in any normal election Biden would be struggling as he hasn't been able, IMO, to lay out a clear policy agenda.

Ther is little talk about how he would actually deal with the major issues facing the US. Healthcare he is strong on because of ObamaCare, but even Democrats and I would propose even Obama, would accept that it can be better. What about climate change, the loss of manufacturing jobs, not just to China and other countries but automation etc. How will be deal with a divided or even outright senate? What about the democratic deficit in the country. What about the Electoral college? Infrastructure, the need to reduce the spend on the military, gun control, gerrymandering, corruption, lack of job security, rental security, social welfare. Education, access to college, reducing third level fees, student debt.

There are so many issues facing the US, but there seems so little actual discussion of them, or how to deal with them.

Leroy42 wrote: »

Thye weird thing is, Biden is actually quite an easy target, particularly if they go after his policy positions. The problem for Trump, and thus his supporters, is that Trump is actually even worse and as such the only real line of attack can be personal. But in any normal election Biden would be struggling as he hasn't been able, IMO, to lay out a clear policy agenda.

Ther is little talk about how he would actually deal with the major issues facing the US. Healthcare he is strong on because of ObamaCare, but even Democrats and I would propose even Obama, would accept that it can be better. What about climate change, the loss of manufacturing jobs, not just to China and other countries but automation etc. How will be deal with a divided or even outright senate? What about the democratic deficit in the country. What about the Electoral college? Infrastructure, the need to reduce the spend on the military, gun control, gerrymandering, corruption, lack of job security, rental security, social welfare. Education, access to college, reducing third level fees, student debt.

There are so many issues facing the US, but there seems so little actual discussion of them, or how to deal with them.

It suits both parties not to discuss policy matters. This is supported by a media which is bored by policy matters.

This US Election is as usual dominated by culture identity rubbish and analysis of countless opinion polls. And other rubbish about what colour tie they are wearing.

Of course the death of an elderly judge is the prize for both parties. Anything bar discuss matters that actually affect people.

Danzy wrote: »

Biden's party is more split on policy than Trump's.

The Reaganite Republicans have gone to Biden, his reputation as the Senator for MBNA preceding him.

Quite a large part of the party like Aoc and her views which are often far removed from blue collar Dems etc.

Someone will be disappointed if Joe talks policy too much.

AOC is quite a strong proponent of organized labor actually, which is traditionally one of the biggest issues for "blue collar Dems".


Republicans are certainly dead set on portraying any action on climate change as awful, of course. But apart from the Green New Deal (which I'd argue isn't anti-labour at all), what other views does AOC hold that are "far removed from blue collar Dems"?

namloc1980 wrote: »

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"Protesting stupidity" at a rally during a pandemic

Watch also at the end of the clip he has another one of those brain glitches and strange arm and shoulder spasms. These are getting more common. Very weird.

On the left side, then moves around to lean against the podium.

namloc1980 wrote: »

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"Protesting stupidity" at a rally during a pandemic

Watch also at the end of the clip he has another one of those brain glitches and strange arm and shoulder spasms. These are getting more common. Very weird.

every time he gives a speech he holds on to the podium for dear life. he struggles to stand still without one

timsey tiger wrote: »

This line of attack is not stupid, it is very apt. AOC is correctly pointing out that we have to move away from an industrial model that pollutes.

While, this is necessary and for the good of society as a whole, it will mean devistation and poverty for people working in these industries. Many of these industries are longstanding and unionised.

These unions and workers will have to directly pay for the green new deal. AOCs policy goals will cost them their jobs. Granted they will lose their jobs anyway as industry moves away from fossil fuels, but that discomfort is down the line.

https://youtu.be/qS2bETWPQms

Be careful of what you wish for..

In the great scheme of trump crimes it is very small but Trump admitted that his Taj mahal casino in Atlantic City was being used for money laundering

https://thesternfacts.com/cnn-just-proved-trumps-taj-mahal-has-laundered-money-for-20-years-6120e6bc84b2

"young people, immune systems are great, it effects the elderly, but it only effects them because of their underlying conditions, other then that it effects nobody".

While in the background, "everyone" with their faces covered?? (Happy to see it) his "own peeps" don't believe his stick he's talking ffs lol

First thirty seconds..

https://youtu.be/Bpyuo3zP74U

Yet they will still cast a vote for the lying, cheating cnut.

namloc1980 wrote: »

Watch also at the end of the clip he has another one of those brain glitches and strange arm and shoulder spasms. These are getting more common. Very weird.

Loving how the attacks from both sides are getting medical.
Joe is demented and Trump has weird arm spasms.

Reminds me of the attacks and defence around

threeball wrote: »

He claims to be tee total but he sounds like he's sauced most of the time. Like a rambling drunk in a pub. Either that or all the cocaine has melted the few braincells he ever had.

He sounded even crazier than usual there, :eek: and that is saying something!
Horrific to realise that that raving lunatic is President of the USA.