Irish who are more famous/acclaimed abroad than here.

ohnonotgmail · 26-03-2018 9:49am

bikubesong wrote: »

Supervet Noel Fitzpatrick.

Highly accomplished in his field, and has a Channel 4 show. Yet no-one in Ireland seems to have heard of him. Not saying he's an A-lister in the UK but definitely more successful/well known.

spent practically his entire professional career in the UK so this is not surprising. The only people who know him outside the professional field are those who watch his tv show.

Omackeral · 26-03-2018 9:53am

baylah17 wrote: »

You jest surely, Rory McIlroy would be far more famous than Morgan, as indeed would many others!

I’d wager the poster is considering the outrageous popularity of cricket in that part of the world combined with the populations of India and Pakistan when putting Morgan’s name forward.

topper75 · 26-03-2018 10:19am

When I lived over the pond and tuned into Wogan on the way to work, I was often running late!

Towards the back end of the show when the bulk of listeners were tuned out and gone to work, Wogan would do 'his' thing.

Could constitute a rambling memory of the damp church in Lahinch when on holidays as a kid or babbling on for 2 solid minutes As Gaeilge about nothing at all.

He lived and worked in England for most of his life, so you can understand the affinity. But to say he lost his Irishness or betrayed Ireland in some way - is simply to not know that man at all.

Rhys Essien · 26-03-2018 11:17am

spyderski wrote: »

Sean Kelly. In the Top 5 best professional cyclists of all time, has godlike status in Belgium and would be very well known in many parts of Europe. I’d say 50% of people here wouldn’t recognise him.

That’s nonsense.He was a national sporting icon here at his peak.Everybody knew him.

Snickers Man · 26-03-2018 11:19am

Omackeral wrote: »

Bray's own Fergal Devitt is a huge star in the USA,UK and Japan. He's better known as WWE wrestler Finn Balor and formerly as Prince Devitt. A good looking, talented, popular and humble chap and in great nick too.

What is it with wrestlers and FMB's?

I think we should be told.

HowItsMade · 26-03-2018 11:22am

Jacksepticeye, Irish Youtuber from Athlone with 18 million subscribers..

lives in Brighton now, likely earning over €500k a month

Rhys Essien · 26-03-2018 11:45am

It’s sad the amount of Irish people forgotten in history.Only recently I found out that a man from Mitchelstown called John Roche(Roach) was the biggest employer in America in the mid 1800’s.His shipbuilding business was the largest employer behind the railroads.He had 4000+ employees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Roach_%26_Sons

Hector Bellend · 26-03-2018 11:50am

Beau Broad Staircase wrote: »

Tommy Smyth - sports commentator.

He can stay in America. The little bol..........

Hector Bellend · 26-03-2018 11:51am

HowItsMade wrote: »

Jacksepticeye, Irish Youtuber from Athlone with 18 million subscribers..

lives in Brighton now, likely earning over €500k a month

the c@nt

the purple tin · 26-03-2018 12:09pm

Charles Thompson. A real rags to riches story, he was instrumental behind the scenes in early american politics, considered to be the original 'staffer'. He was also anti slavery, pro native american rights and an all round good egg.

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/02/10/news/remarkable-tale-of-co-derry-orphan-who-became-central-figure-in-american-revolution-1252905/
There's a very interesting bbc documentary about him called 'the man who told the truth'.

whisky_galore · 26-03-2018 12:39pm

'Mother' Jones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Harris_Jones

weldoninhio · 26-03-2018 12:53pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Eoin Morgan for sure. The England Cricket captain, a regular in the Indian Premier League, Pakistan Premier League, Australian Big Bash, Caribbean Premier League. He's arguably the most famous Irish Born sports person right now (probably excluding Conor McGregor). Yet the chap could easily walk down Grafton Street 10 times and not get recognized

I'd recognise him.

(May be due to the fact I grew up around the corner from him and hung around with his brother).

weldoninhio · 26-03-2018 12:53pm

baylah17 wrote: »

You jest surely, Rory McIlroy would be far more famous than Morgan, as indeed would many others!

Rory sees himself as British.

Permabear · 26-03-2018 1:46pm

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Rhys Essien · 26-03-2018 2:10pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

'Mother' Jones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Harris_Jones

‘The most dangerous woman in America’.Trump is one lucky man that she is not alive today.She would tear him a new one.

Here she is meeting President Coolidge and Teddy Roosevelt jr. in the White House garden
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/b6/55/e8b6550088a2ccadc62595a2aa07015c.jpg

Cork Boy 53 · 26-03-2018 3:06pm

spyderski wrote: »

Sean Kelly. In the Top 5 best professional cyclists of all time, has godlike status in Belgium and would be very well known in many parts of Europe. I’d say 50% of people here wouldn’t recognise him.

Anybody over 30 would recognize him unless they were completely disinterested in sport. He was world no.1 for several years and won many races in his career including the Tour of Spain. Overshadowed by Stephen Roche for a year or two in the late 1980s but overall a more successful career.

whisky_galore · 26-03-2018 3:19pm

Engineer C. Y. O'Connor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Y._O%27Connor

MikeyTaylor · 26-03-2018 3:24pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Anybody over 30 would recognize him unless they were completely disinterested in sport. He was world no.1 for several years and won many races in his career including the Tour of Spain. Overshadowed by Stephen Roche for a year or two in the late 1980s but overall a more successful career.

From Carrick-on-Suir?

bullpost · 26-03-2018 3:26pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

spent practically his entire professional career in the UK so this is not surprising. The only people who know him outside the professional field are those who watch his tv show.

Hmm http://3arena.ie/artist/noel-fitzpatrick-is-the-supervet/2214

Cork Boy 53 · 26-03-2018 3:26pm

MikeyTaylor wrote: »

From Carrick-on-Suir?

Yes.

WinnyThePoo · 26-03-2018 3:29pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I was there myself back in 2012 when the Horslips and Mick Taylor headlined it.

The festival came about after Rory's death.

He had a higher profile on the continent than he did in Ireland during his prime after Taste as a solo artist.

I think he played with the rolling stones for a very short time. Not on records but live.

CrankyHaus · 26-03-2018 3:29pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Eileen Gray, architect and furniture designer. She is dead now but was one of the leaders of the modernist movement and her influence on design has carried through to many modern homes today. One of her chairs sold for over 25 million a few years back. There is a permanent display of her work in the National Museum but most Irish people would not know who she was.

Le Corbusier vandalised her gaff, while naked, out of petty jealousy. A backhanded tribute if ever there was one.

MikeyTaylor · 26-03-2018 3:36pm

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

I think he played with the rolling stones for a very short time. Not on records but live.

I read somewhere they wanted Rory to join as Brian Jones' replacement but it never cane to pass.

corks finest · 26-03-2018 3:39pm

Bobby Sands,revered and remembered elsewhere, current snowflakes haven't an iota

baylah17 · 26-03-2018 3:54pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

baylah17 wrote: »

You jest surely, Rory McIlroy would be far more famous than Morgan, as indeed would many others!

Rory sees himself as British.

Since when?
Or you just making stuff up?
Again

Arne_Saknussem · 26-03-2018 4:20pm

baylah17 wrote: »

Since when?
Or you just making stuff up?
Again

http://www.the42.ie/rory-mcilroy-ive-always-felt-more-british-than-irish-590659-Sep2012/

Was all set to play for G Britain util it was pointed out that his Britishness hadn't stopped him from accepting 6 figure sum grants from Irish golf as an amateur.

bodhrandude · 26-03-2018 6:48pm

Fionnula Flanagan, who I've seen loads of times in films and TV series, she plays Daniel Faraday's mother in Lost, I don't remember seeing her too much in RTE produced dramas or films, a good actress. Perhaps I'm wrong and that she has appeared in loads of stuff.

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ohnonotgmail · 26-03-2018 6:49pm

bullpost wrote: »

Hmm http://3arena.ie/artist/noel-fitzpatrick-is-the-supervet/2214

not sure what you think that shows??

.red. · 26-03-2018 6:54pm

The saconne jolly's. Youtube "sensation"
I'd never heard of them, but seen the end of a show about them on TV in work a few months ago. He's a Cork lad and she's American/Irish from Baltimore.
1.8m subscribers on YouTube and living the highlife in the UK. Apparently worth a fortune from prostituting themselves to anyone with internet. The even filmed the moment they found out they'd had a miscarriage and also the birth of a baby.
I'd love their money, but not how they earn it.

donspeekinglesh · 26-03-2018 7:03pm

bodhrandude wrote: »

Fionnula Flanagan, who I've seen loads of times in films and TV series, she plays Daniel Faraday's mother in Lost, I don't remember seeing her too much in RTE produced dramas or films, a good actress. Perhaps I'm wrong and that she has appeared in loads of stuff.

A few episodes of Star Trek too. (Data's mother in TNG and was in DS9 and ENT)

Ipso · 26-03-2018 7:03pm

corks finest wrote: »

Bobby Sands,revered and remembered elsewhere, current snowflakes haven't an iota

In wonderful lands of freedom like Cuba and Iran.

manbitesdog · 26-03-2018 7:51pm

Permabear wrote: »

This post had been deleted.

Can you elaborate on this? The Norris point seems like a bit of stretch. Government minister Séan McBride was reportedly a fan of Ulysses (at least in private, 'official' Ireland still being largely hostile to Joyce), and wrote to Joyce's widow profusely praising her late husband in the 1950s in a bid to land the manuscript of Finnegans Wake for the National Library. Artist John Ryan opened the Joyce Museum in Martello Tower back in 1962, and I understand the novel was openly on sale in Ireland by that time. Ryan is also credited - along with Flann O'Brien and a few others - with holding Dublin's first Bloomsday celebration in the 1950s. While that was reportedly a modest and abortive affair (they wound up in the pub), Bloomsday as we know it today - people in costumes and whatnot - has been taking place in Dublin since at least the early 1980s. My sense is the rehabilitation of Joyce was a gradual but ineluctable process, rather than a one-man campaign.

the 1967 film of Ulysses, banned by the Irish censor, was only cleared for release in 2000. It still holds the record for the longest ban (33 years) imposed on any film by the Irish state.

That film ran into trouble all over the place, landing an X rating in the UK prior to cuts, and seeing walkouts at Cannes. As for the length of its ban, it was only resubmitted once before 2000, in the early 70s. Though still enthusiastic banners by the 1990s (Bad Lieutenant and the VHS release of Reservoir Dogs come to mind) it's hard to imagine Strick's film failing to gain a classification had it been resubmitted sooner. Never seen it myself, but apparently it features foul language, a nude man's backside and, most shockingly, early footage of the abominable Liberty Hall.

manbitesdog · 26-03-2018 8:07pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

It’s possible van Morrison’s genius is more recognized in the US than here, but that might also be because he was in his pomp in the 60s and 70s so just a time gap thing.

Van Morrison is underrated in general. He should be classed alongside Lennon & McCartney, Dylan and Hendrix as someone who elevated pop music from mass entertainment to art form. His prickly personality and crap Celtic mystical nonsense must've cost him.

bodhrandude · 26-03-2018 8:14pm

manbitesdog wrote: »

Van Morrison is underrated in general. He should be classed alongside Lennon & McCartney, Dylan and Hendrix as someone who elevated pop music from mass entertainment to art form. His prickly personality and crap Celtic mystical nonsense must've cost him.

Especially when he did this stuff with Them, he had an incredible voice.

ohnonotgmail · 26-03-2018 8:56pm

manbitesdog wrote: »

Can you elaborate on this? The Norris point seems like a bit of stretch. Government minister Séan McBride was reportedly a fan of Ulysses (at least in private, 'official' still being largely hostile to Joyce), and wrote to Joyce's widow profusely praising her late husband in the 1950s in a bid to land the manuscript of Finnegans Wake for the National Library. Artist John Ryan opened the Joyce Museum in Martello Tower back in 1962, and I understand the novel was openly on sale in by that time. Ryan is also credited - along with Flann O'Brien and a few others - with holding Dublin's first Bloomsday celebration in the 1950s. While that was reportedly a modest and abortive affair (they wound up in the pub), Bloomsday as we know it today - people in costumes and whatnot - has been taking place in Dublin since at least the early 1980s. My sense is the rehabilitation of Joyce was a gradual but ineluctable process, rather than a one-man campaign.

Not as much of a stretch as you think. Norris has been doing bloomsday stuff since the 1960s on sandymount strand. The whole thing of people dressing up is his invention. When i started in college in the late 80's he pretty much was bloomsday and had been for a number of years. He was also responsible for saving the building that is now the James Joyce center on North Great Georges St.

Rothko · 26-03-2018 9:04pm

somefeen wrote: »

Most Irish people under 35 won't know he was, but he did play Rockpalast in Germany, which wasn't exactly a show for small up and coming acts. ( as far as I can tell anyway by the list of previous performers)

I disagree with that. I think nearly anyone that's picked up a guitar here has heard of him.

the purple tin · 26-03-2018 9:19pm

Kieran Kelly who was one of the most prolific serial killers in English history. He moved to London from Laois in the 50's and is suspected of killing over 30 people there right up to the early 80's. There is also evidence that he murdered somebody in his hometown of Rathdowney. It's mind boggling how he got away with it for so long.
https://www.irishpost.com/news/new-documentary-reveals-the-real-story-behind-londons-irish-serial-killer-107008

the purple tin · 26-03-2018 9:46pm

Val Doonican was a living legend in britain in the 70's and 80's.

Water John · 26-03-2018 9:49pm

Rory has a Plaza in Cork named after him. Cork always knew his greatness.
There are some very good interesting names, on here.

facehugger99 · 26-03-2018 10:05pm

corks finest wrote: »

Bobby Sands,revered and remembered elsewhere, current snowflakes haven't an iota

Don’t worry, nobody abroad has an iota who he is either.

Ash.J.Williams · 26-03-2018 10:06pm

My bloody valentine

Ash.J.Williams · 26-03-2018 10:14pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Rory Gallagher was more appeciated on the continent than he was at home .

Was a name in Europe. Even has a street named after him in Paris.

When rush were starting Aerosmith and Gallagher were the big dogs in the US

trashcan · 26-03-2018 11:17pm

bodhrandude wrote: »

Especially when he did this stuff with Them, he had an incredible voice.

Incredible voice ? I'll have to beg to differ there. I think he is a lousy singer. Has only two good songs of note too, Brown Eyed Girl and Moondance. Apart from that, hugely over-rated in my view.

PowerToWait · 27-03-2018 12:12am

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

My bloody valentine

From Cavan no less.

Irish Guitarist · 27-03-2018 12:18am

'Famous' might be the wrong word for this sicko but I remember reading this story about a 'paedophile rights campaigner' from Carlow in print at the time it happened.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html

I don't think it was that exact article I read but it was in some free paper. The article made it sound like he was some crazed individual with maybe one or two weirdo supporters. I discovered years later (I think because of a thread here) that he had actually been a big deal in British politics in the 1970s and his disturbing views were taken somewhat seriously.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26352378

Are Am Eye · 27-03-2018 1:06am

facehugger99 wrote: »

Don’t worry, nobody abroad has an iota who he is either.

We will never forget you, Jimmy Sands.

Snotty · 27-03-2018 1:46am

Wogan was despised by a large amount of the Irish who emigrated to the UK in the 70s and 80s. I know this from working in Irish pubs in the UK in my youth and whenever he came on the TV the conversation would start on how he sold out to be British.
I kind of agreed when the only time he was heard of in public in Ireland was when the Queen visited.

David Feherty, Golfer from Co. Down, was probably best described as an average European Tour Pro, but since retiring from the sport now commentates and has his own golf shows on CBS and now NBC, definitely more famous in the US than Ireland.

facehugger99 · 27-03-2018 7:08am

Snotty wrote: »

Wogan was despised by a large amount of the Irish who emigrated to the UK in the 70s and 80s. I know this from working in Irish pubs in the UK in my youth and whenever he came on the TV the conversation would start on how he sold out to be British.
.

Begrudgery.

Oops69 · 27-03-2018 6:13pm

Snotty wrote: »

Wogan was despised by a large amount of the Irish who emigrated to the UK in the 70s and 80s. I know this from working in Irish pubs in the UK in my youth and whenever he came on the TV the conversation would start on how he sold out to be British.
I kind of agreed when the only time he was heard of in public in Ireland was when the Queen visited.

maybe he didn't particularly like Irish people , may be not , Whatever he felt privately is his opinion and he's entitled to it but I don't think that came across publicly.

Water John · 27-03-2018 8:21pm

Anyone who ever met Terry Wogan would tell you, he was very proud of his heritage. People have very different views as to what being true to your roots is.
It isn't all about, wrap the green flag around me.

Irish who are more famous/acclaimed abroad than here.

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