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    #9752
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    What does everyone pay for 2nd cut into the pit? Likes of 5bales/ac stuff? At what point is it cheaper to make bales?


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    #9753
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    Feeding 4.5 kgs here. Milk solids at 1.79 with 100% heifers. Just like previous poster grass quality has been an issue for the last 10 days or so( since the growth kicked). Moving onto aftergrass from monday onwards so hoping to cut back to 3-3.5 and also hoping for a little lift in the milk....lots of hoping;)


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    #9754
    Freejin
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Freejin


    Anybody on here get cows scanned externally rather than arm? Are they on a par for dating accuracy and for diagnosing twins? Also how soon after serving can external scanning be used?


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    #9755
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Freejin wrote: »
    Anybody on here get cows scanned externally rather than arm? Are they on a par for dating accuracy and for diagnosing twins? Also how soon after serving can external scanning be used?

    Afaik they need to be fairly well on to be able to scan externally, could be wrong tho.


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    #9756
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    So today we finally paid off the loan for the shed knocked in storm Darwin, 6 years ago now. It was nice to see a small positive balance in that loan account.

    I might hold off putting up another one for a few years now:)


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    #9757
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    Freejin wrote: »
    Anybody on here get cows scanned externally rather than arm? Are they on a par for dating accuracy and for diagnosing twins? Also how soon after serving can external scanning be used?

    Using the preg check milk sample testing this year. Accurate from 28 days. Finding it a great job. Only downside is it doesn't pick up twins or embryonic deaths.


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    #9758
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,570 ✭✭✭straight


    Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
    So today we finally paid off the loan for the shed knocked in storm Darwin, 6 years ago now. It was nice to see a small positive balance in that loan account.

    I might hold off putting up another one for a few years now:)

    Don't tell your wife about the positive


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    #9759
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    straight wrote: »
    Don't tell your wife about the positive

    :D

    She spent to whole of our marriage up to this spring giving out about me putting up sheds. She spent a good bit of time since the lockdown helping the kids out with the calves morning and evening and suggested the other day that we should think about putting up a calf shed to reduce the workload and reduce disease pressure, so that's a win:)

    When I suggested it last year, I was given an earfull about putting up another shed:pac:

    Sometimes you have to plant a seed and wait for it to grow:)


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    #9760
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    https://twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1276593797284192256?s=19


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    #9761
    Say my name
    Registered Users Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Mooooo wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1276593797284192256?s=19

    So basically "This container is recyclable" is going to be printed on the container.

    You've got to love optics.


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    #9762
    visatorro
    Registered Users Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Timmaay wrote:
    What does everyone pay for 2nd cut into the pit? Likes of 5bales/ac stuff? At what point is it cheaper to make bales?

    95 incl vat for self propelled is what I paid for first cut. Not shook out. Crew helped me cover the pit. Bales work out about 11eur. I think. Iv only a few made this year,no bill yet. I'm biased towards pit here. Not overly fond of bales.


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    #9763
    Grueller
    Registered Users Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭Grueller


    tismesoitis wrote: »
    Feeding 4.5 kgs here. Milk solids at 1.79 with 100% heifers. Just like previous poster grass quality has been an issue for the last 10 days or so( since the growth kicked). Moving onto aftergrass from monday onwards so hoping to cut back to 3-3.5 and also hoping for a little lift in the milk....lots of hoping;)

    You must have good heifers. Mine are 100% heifers too and are on 1.58 milk solids on 4 kgs per day.
    Edited to say that grass quality is an issue here with 60% of the farm in dire need of reseeding.


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    #9764
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Grueller wrote: »
    You must have good heifers. Mine are 100% heifers too and are on 1.58 milk solids on 4 kgs per day.
    Edited to say that grass quality is an issue here with 60% of the farm in dire need of reseeding.

    Rome wasn't built in a day, you'll get there sooner than you think.


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    #9765
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    You's are both in for a total shock come next April when all them 2nd calvers really get going and pumping out the likes of 25 to 27l average. Not to mind the fact that you'll be amazed with how easy milkings are in the spring without pure heifers ha. 1st year by far the steepest and most difficult learning curve of any stage in a dairy farm, I hear that repeatedly from all new entrants.


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    #9766
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Timmaay wrote: »
    You's are both in for a total shock come next April when all them 2nd calvers really get going and pumping out the likes of 25 to 27l average. Not to mind the fact that you'll be amazed with how easy milkings are in the spring without pure heifers ha. 1st year by far the steepest and most difficult learning curve of any stage in a dairy farm, I hear that repeatedly from all new entrants.
    I wouldn't wish a herd of heifers on my worst enemy, id buy a good (suitable) herd of cows any day. Wouldn't be anything much in it financially (I'd guess!), but sometimes life is too short for such hardships.


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    #9767
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    76% of heifers held to fixed time ai, any of the rest of ye do it? How did ye fare?


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    #9768
    Mf310
    Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭Mf310


    Mooooo wrote: »
    76% of heifers held to fixed time ai, any of the rest of ye do it? How did ye fare?


    Used estrumate here on day 7 and stayed aiing up to day 21 66% held not overly happy expected better but anyway.. 76% is v decent out of interest did you do sexed semen?


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    #9769
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    I wouldn't wish a herd of heifers on my worst enemy, id buy a good (suitable) herd of cows any day. Wouldn't be anything much in it financially (I'd guess!), but sometimes life is too short for such hardships.

    Was expecting plenty of hardship with them alright but it turned out much easier than expected. We got a couple of tonne of precalver blown into the bin and put all the heifers through the parlour for a couple of months before calving. We rubbed their udders as well as turned on the machine. It meant they were used to the noise,handling,coming and going. It was the best spent time ever.
    The biggest issue we had was we had our fair share of heifers develop mastitis 2 or 3 days after calving. Maybe 7 of 8 of the 70. Cubicles were kept clean bedded with 20% hydrated lime blend. Anyone with similar experience?


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    #9770
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Mf310 wrote: »
    Used estrumate here on day 7 and stayed aiing up to day 21 66% held not overly happy expected better but anyway.. 76% is v decent out of interest did you do sexed semen?

    No sexed, not at the stage yet to risk it I feel however some seem to have had good results but still seems to be mixed in general.
    Coiled and receptal day 0, estrumate day 5, estrumate and coil out day 6, and ai and receptal day 8


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    #9771
    alps
    Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭alps


    tismesoitis wrote: »
    Was expecting plenty of hardship with them alright but it turned out much easier than expected. We got a couple of tonne of precalver blown into the bin and put all the heifers through the parlour for a couple of months before calving. We rubbed their udders as well as turned on the machine. It meant they were used to the noise,handling,coming and going. It was the best spent time ever.
    The biggest issue we had was we had our fair share of heifers develop mastitis 2 or 3 days after calving. Maybe 7 of 8 of the 70. Cubicles were kept clean bedded with 20% hydrated lime blend. Anyone with similar experience?

    Our first year sealing heifers here and very happy with it. All spotless at calving and afterwards. Even though it seems to be manifesting for you after a few days, could the infection still have set in just before or during calving? Are they removed quickly form the calving area?


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    #9772
    visatorro
    Registered Users Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Timmaay wrote:
    You's are both in for a total shock come next April when all them 2nd calvers really get going and pumping out the likes of 25 to 27l average. Not to mind the fact that you'll be amazed with how easy milkings are in the spring without pure heifers ha. 1st year by far the steepest and most difficult learning curve of any stage in a dairy farm, I hear that repeatedly from all new entrants.


    One new entrant said to me ' someone told me these bastards are gonna calf again next year!! '


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    #9773
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    alps wrote: »
    Our first year sealing heifers here and very happy with it. All spotless at calving and afterwards. Even though it seems to be manifesting for you after a few days, could the infection still have set in just before or during calving? Are they removed quickly form the calving area?
    +1
    Heifers can be a devil for dropping milk pre or at calving and leave themselves very vulnerable that way.
    I'd milk any heifer dropping milk even a few days before calving, we seal them a month if 2 pee calving with the last few years and we've no problems any more... touch wood.


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    #9774
    Farney Farmer
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭Farney Farmer


    Mooooo wrote: »
    No sexed, not at the stage yet to risk it I feel however some seem to have had good results but still seems to be mixed in general.
    Coiled and receptal day 0, estrumate day 5, estrumate and coil out day 6, and ai and receptal day 8

    How much does all that cost per heifer?


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    #9775
    RedPeppers
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭RedPeppers


    I have a cow here with an ulcer at the top of her udder affecting one quarter. Cow has no mastitis and it’s not bothering her. I’ve tried udder creams, sprays and even manuka honey(vet said to try it) but it’s not healing. Anyone have this or know what I could try?


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    #9776
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,887 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/what-pesticides-are-being-applied-to-grass-and-fodder-crops-each-year/ at last some good news on irish agriculture, less than 1/3 we use than the EU average pesticide usage


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    #9777
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,483 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    RedPeppers wrote: »
    I have a cow here with an ulcer at the top of her udder affecting one quarter. Cow has no mastitis and it’s not bothering her. I’ve tried udder creams, sprays and even manuka honey(vet said to try it) but it’s not healing. Anyone have this or know what I could try?

    intra repiderma gel, if that dosent heal it up noting will


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    #9778
    Gary kk
    Registered Users Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Gary kk


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/what-pesticides-are-being-applied-to-grass-and-fodder-crops-each-year/ at last some good news on irish agriculture, less than 1/3 we use than the EU average pesticide usage

    Less tillage I guess


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    #9779
    Acquiescence
    Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Acquiescence


    RedPeppers wrote: »
    I have a cow here with an ulcer at the top of her udder affecting one quarter. Cow has no mastitis and it’s not bothering her. I’ve tried udder creams, sprays and even manuka honey(vet said to try it) but it’s not healing. Anyone have this or know what I could try?

    Could you Milk that quarter OAD to give it a chance to heal alongside whatever you're putting on it topically.


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    #9780
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    I'll throw up the tweet below but Tommy Heffernan had an interesting conversation with Andre Van Barnevelt a few days ago. He's definitely full on but definitely thought provoking as well. About 50 minutes long.
    https://twitter.com/tommythevet/status/1275687456055099392?s=19


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    #9781
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    https://www.independent.ie/storyplus/wicklow-dairy-farmer-reveals-why-he-is-adopting-a-zero-use-antibiotic-policy-on-his-farm-39206095.html

    Anyone heard or used this AHV stuff?


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