The annual ASTI Easter strike threat

Darc19 · 05-04-2021 8:31am #1

It was looking like the ASTI would not have their annual teacher strike ballot this Easter...

Then they found a topic.

They want healthy 25 year old teaching staff to be vaccinated before those at far far higher risk.

Easter just wouldn't be Easter without the annual strike threat by exceptionally well paid ASTI teachers.

Someday some government minister will have the guts to pull them down several pegs

Kivaro · 05-04-2021 9:08am

Unions should have no say on how a country responds to a deadly worldwide pandemic. However, this is Ireland, and unions seem to rule the roost here.

lawred2 · 05-04-2021 9:11am

Darc19 wrote: »

It was looking like the ASTI would not have their annual teacher strike ballot this Easter...

Then they found a topic.

They want healthy 25 year old teaching staff to be vaccinated before those at far far higher risk.

Easter just wouldn't be Easter without the annual strike threat by exceptionally well paid ASTI teachers.

Someday some government minister will have the guts to pull them down several pegs

You'll be a long time waiting

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 9:13am

Supermarket workers 'deserve' the vaccine more than teachers. There for 8 hours a day taking s**te from those who won't wear a mask, or from those too lazy to move away to pack their own shopping in a designated area. No clue what the Covid status of the next spluttering customer is either.
Weekends, Christmas late, Bank Holidays, the lot.

The ASTI are showing us who they believe are the true 'privileged' people of the country.

05-04-2021 9:13am

Darc19 wrote: »

It was looking like the ASTI would not have their annual teacher strike ballot this Easter...

Then they found a topic.

They want healthy 25 year old teaching staff to be vaccinated before those at far far higher risk.

Easter just wouldn't be Easter without the annual strike threat by exceptionally well paid ASTI teachers.

Someday some government minister will have the guts to pull them down several pegs

Ah what’s new here. Teachers think they run this place!
Dya know what, get them vaccinated to fluich, they’re never going back to their work otherwise!

05-04-2021 9:18am

Darc19 wrote: »

They want healthy 25 year old teaching staff to be vaccinated before those at far far higher risk.

Its more to do with transmission than anything else. A secondary teacher might be interacting with 200 students a day, so 200 households. One teacher could a superspreader event. They could cause thousands of cases from a single day of working with covid.

05-04-2021 9:23am

Afaik the government promised to vaccinate teachers etc as a priority to get em.back working

And promptly doubled back on that promise without consultation

i couldnt fault em for being pissed off over this......be a fairly weak union,that wouldnt be willing to walk out,if its been double-crossed

Montage of Feck · 05-04-2021 9:40am

We have shown that the schools can be shut for an extended period, so isn't it about time a minister for education called their bluff?

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 9:43am

Deleted User wrote: »

Afaik the government promised to vaccinate teachers etc as a priority to get em.back working

And promptly doubled back on that promise without consultation

i couldnt fault em for being pissed off over this......be a fairly weak union,that wouldnt be willing to walk out,if its been double-crossed

The Gov made the decision based on the best epidemiological advice available. The ASTI want the government to put sectional political interests before science.

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 9:45am

Deleted User wrote: »

Afaik the government promised to vaccinate teachers etc as a priority to get em.back working

And promptly doubled back on that promise without consultation

i couldnt fault em for being pissed off over this......be a fairly weak union,that wouldnt be willing to walk out,if its been double-crossed

Most teachers are getting on with their job.
Teachers unions (the last refuge of teachers who don't want to teach) are making their members look bad.

05-04-2021 9:46am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

The Gov made the decision based on the best epidemiological advice available. The ASTI want the government to put sectional political interests before science.

Not so sure about this. I thought the best practice in epidemiology was to inoculate individuals who live and work in conditions where disease is prevalent, and not according to risk of mortality given the unlikely event of infection

Kingston Mills was on the radio this week saying that the only reason we are progressing down the age categories, is it's easier for the HSE to do. It isn't necessarily based on medical science.

05-04-2021 9:47am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

The Gov made the decision based on the best epidemiological advice available. The ASTI want the government to put sectional political interests before science.

I qs the science,which says those with high levels of social interactions (teacher,gaurds,shop workers etc),shouldnt be prioritised tbh

I emailed dept asking for further clarification upon this and got no reply

But nonetheless,the government promised x,y and z in negociations,and then promptly doubled back without consultation, (shades of boris johnson vs the eu here)

seems to me,they have made their bed here and need accept responsibility for its outworkings

.42. · 05-04-2021 9:48am

The Government should let them strike and continue with the age groups.

ratracer · 05-04-2021 9:50am

Montage of Feck wrote: »

We have shown that the schools can be shut for an extended period, so isn't it about time a minister for education called their bluff?

No thanks! Schools haven’t been closed, my kids have been doing an awful lot of online schooling since Christmas, and their teachers have put a lot of time into it. Schools on strike is a completely different situation, where no work at all would be done online. Kids need to be back in the classes. I don’t have a strong enough opinion on the teachers getting priority vaccines or not, but they have still been working ( at least in my kids school)

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:11am

Deleted User wrote: »

I qs the science,which says those with high levels of social interactions (teacher,gaurds,shop workers etc),shouldnt be prioritised tbh

I emailed dept asking for further clarification upon this and got no reply

But nonetheless,the government promised x,y and z in negociations,and then promptly doubled back without consultation, (shades of boris johnson vs the eu here)

seems to me,they have made their bed here and need accept responsibility for its outworkings

Perhaps you could take your query on the methodology adopted by the Govt to one of these people:

Professor Andrew Pollard, Chair (University of Oxford)
Professor Lim Wei Shen, Chair COVID-19 immunisation (Nottingham University Hospitals)
Professor Anthony Harnden, Deputy Chair (University of Oxford)
Dr Kevin Brown (Public Health England)
Dr Rebecca Cordery (Public Health England)
Dr Maggie Wearmouth (East Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust)
Professor Matt Keeling (University of Warwick)
Alison Lawrence (lay member)
Professor Robert Read (Southampton General Hospital)
Professor Anthony Scott (London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine)
Professor Adam Finn (University of Bristol)
Dr Fiona van der Klis (National Institute for Public Health and the Environment, Netherlands)
Professor Maarten Postma (University of Groningen)
Professor Simon Kroll (Imperial College London)
Dr Martin Williams (University Hospitals Bristol)
Professor Jeremy Brown (University College London Hospitals)

Members of the JCVI who recommended an age based approach to vaccination in the UK, as the most efficient means of distribution at the population level, not the individual level.
The population level supercedes sectional interests and is better for the whole in the long term. However it will appear counterintuitive to the less well-informed and therefore may present some political problems.
Teachers unions were unhappy with the UK decision too.

05-04-2021 10:18am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Members of the JCVI who recommended an age based approach to vaccination in the UK, as the most efficient means of distribution at the population level, not the individual level.
The population level supercedes sectional interests and is better for the whole in the long term. However it will appear counterintuitive to the less well-informed and therefore may present some political problems.
Teachers unions were unhappy with the UK decision too.

Finty Lemon wrote: »

The Gov made the decision based on the best epidemiological advice available. The ASTI want the government to put sectional political interests before science.

You goys need to get yous story straight,is it the best epidemiologocal/scientific or most efficent method they going with??

Im indifferent to whether teachers etc need prioiritisng,just im a functioning adult,who understands if yous promise someone x,y and z and then roll back without bothering to consultate them,its going to cause pushback

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:38am

Deleted User wrote: »

You goys need to get yous story straight,is it the best epidemiologocal/scientific or most efficent method they going with??

Its the same thing. The most efficient is the best at a population level. Hit the medically vulnerable first (easily defined) and the roll out based on age. Simple.

Sunny Disposition · 05-04-2021 10:42am

Jesus, surely even the party of Bertie Ahern won’t subvert the best medical advice to keep the public sector on side! People will die unnecessarily if they do.

05-04-2021 10:43am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

You goys need to get yous story straight,is it the best epidemiologocal/scientific or most efficent method they going with??

Its the same thing. The most efficient is the best at a population level. Hit the medically vulnerable first (easily defined) and the roll out based on age. Simple.

It is the most efficent (state has made such a balls of it so far,170K plus missing/que skippers so far...its obvious they cant do it any other way)

....but its laughable to say its more scientific to do it this way,verus doing those with higher levels of social interaction first......

commonsense would say this to anyone....they cant and shouldnt claim two opposites simutaneously imo

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:44am

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Jesus, surely even the party of Bertie Ahern won’t subvert the best medical advice to keep the public sector on side! People will die unnecessarily if they do.

Did Northern Ireland implement an age based approach?

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:45am

Deleted User wrote: »

Finty Lemon wrote: »

It is the most efficent (state has made such a balls of it so far,170K plus missing/que skippers so far...its obvious they cant do it any other way)

....but its laughable to say its more scientific to do it this way,verus doing those with higher levels of social interaction first......

commonsense would say this to anyone....they cant.claim two opposites simutaneously imo

Supermarket workers have more social interactions than teachers. Should they come first?

endacl · 05-04-2021 10:47am

Montage of Feck wrote: »

We have shown that the schools can be shut for an extended period, so isn't it about time a minister for education called their bluff?

The buildings have been closed. Not the schools.

Do you know how strikes work?

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:47am

Petrol station attendants have more social interactions than supermarket workers. Should they come before them, who come before teachers?

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:49am

Bus drivers have more interactions than petrol pump attendants, who have more than supermarket workers, who have more than teachers. Should they be first?

05-04-2021 10:49am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Supermarket workers have more social interactions than teachers. Should they come first?

i have no problem with this anyway

Has the state promised their union this and rolled back without consultating.....and now is accusing said union of being anti-science

Looks to me,the governemnt have qs to answer here and need apoligise to the unions....they were happy to critise british government for unilaterially tearing up brexit agreements ,while happy to do so here,deosnt seem.fair to.me.anyway

Allinall · 05-04-2021 10:50am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Did Northern Ireland implement an age based approach?

Yes.

https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/health/covid-vacc-prog-update-plan.pdf

Programme
NI Phase 1
NI Phase 2
3. All those 75 years of age not already vaccinated (<62K)
4. All those 70 years of age not already vaccinated (<81K) and extremely clinically vulnerable (95K) and Carers
5. All those 65 years of age not already vaccinated (<90K)
6. All individuals aged 16 years to 64 years with underlying health conditions which put them at higher
NI Phase 3
7. All those 60+ years of age not already vaccinated (<106K)
8. All those 55+ years of age not already vaccinated (<125K)
9. All those 50+ years of age not already vaccinated (<132K)
NI Phase 4
10. All those 40+ years of age not already vaccinated (<242k) 11. All those 30+ years of age not already vaccinated (<251k) 12. All those 18+ years of age not already vaccinated (<282k)
NI Phase 5
Autumn/ Winter booster programme 2021
1. Older adults resident in a care home and care home workers (12k residents and 16K staff)
2. All those 80 years of age and over (<72K) and health & social care (70K) and domiciliary care workers (<25K)

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:51am

School bus drivers have less than city bus drivers, but more than regional bus drivers, who themselves have fewer interactions than train drivers, who have morevthan teachers in small schools but less than teachers in large schools. Put them 7th on the list. Or is it 5th?

05-04-2021 10:51am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

School bus drivers have less than city bus drivers, but more than regional bus drivers, who themselves have fewer interactions than train drivers, who have morevthan teachers in small schools but less than teachers in large schools. Put them 7th on the list. Or is it 5th?

Lol.....rattled as fcuk

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:52am

Deleted User wrote: »

Finty Lemon wrote: »

i have no problem with this anyway

Has the state promised their union this and rolled back without consultating.....and now is accusing said union of being anti-science

Looks to me,the governemnt have qs to answer here and need apoligise to the unions....they were happy to critise british government for unilaterially tearing up brexit agreements ,while happy to do so here,deosnt seem.fair to.me.anyway

Would that be all supermarket workers or just full-time?

joebloggs32 · 05-04-2021 10:53am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Supermarket workers 'deserve' the vaccine more than teachers. There for 8 hours a day taking s**te from those who won't wear a mask, or from those too lazy to move away to pack their own shopping in a designated area. No clue what the Covid status of the next spluttering customer is either.
Weekends, Christmas late, Bank Holidays, the lot.

The ASTI are showing us who they believe are the true 'privileged' people of the country.

And the supermarket workers were due to be vaccinated well ahead of teachers in the plan that just got ditched.

Their unions need to highlight how the change of the roll out impacts them just as the teachers unions are doing for their members.

As a teacher have to spend 1 hour at a time in a room that is 50 m² with up to 24 students, up to 6 times a day. My SNA colleagues have to often provide intimate care to some of our students. To overlook them is particularly galling.

I love how the plan was only altered after all the pen pushers in the HSE were looked after whike still working from home.

05-04-2021 10:55am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Supermarket workers 'deserve' the vaccine more than teachers. There for 8 hours a day taking s**te from those who won't wear a mask, or from those too lazy to move away to pack their own shopping in a designated area. No clue what the Covid status of the next spluttering customer is either.
Weekends, Christmas late, Bank Holidays, the lot.

The ASTI are showing us who they believe are the true 'privileged' people of the country.

Your takeaway from this is that no occupation at greater risk deserves consideration.

Mine would be that all occupations at greater risk deserve consideration

Your takeaway from this is that the occupation with a strong union should get nothing while those in power can point to the occupation without a strong union

My takeaway is that all occupations without a strong union should be pointing at the occupation with a strong union and demanding what they get

No war but a class war, brothers

Str8outtaWuhan · 05-04-2021 10:56am

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah what’s new here. Teachers think they run this place!
Dya know what, get them vaccinated to fluich, they’re never going back to their work otherwise!

Teachers provide more of our Presidents and Taoiseach's and any other profession, 2 of the last 3 Taoiseachs and the last 3 presidents were all educators .

05-04-2021 10:57am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Would that be all supermarket workers or just full-time?

Your having some meltdown here mate

Looks to me,if the government are unwilling to accept critism.for unilaterally doubling back on an agreement

They shouldnt have made the agreement to begin with.....life is about accepting responsibility for your actions,which is what needs happening here.....

raising concerns part time supermarket workers might get a vaccine,to paper over yet another balls up by the government is patethic

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:57am

Deleted User wrote: »

Lol.....rattled as fcuk

Perhaps you miss the point. LOL indeed

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 10:59am

Deleted User wrote: »

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Your having some meltdown here mate

Looks to me,if the government are unwilling to accept critism.for unilaterally doubling back on an agreement

They shouldnt have made the agreement to begin with.....life is about accepting responsibility for your actions,which is what needs happening here.....

raising part time supermarket workers,to paper over yet another balls up by the government is patethic

You said you wanted supermarket workers done before teachers. Which ones?

markpb · 05-04-2021 10:59am

joebloggs32 wrote: »

There unions need to highlight how the change of the roll out impacts them just as the teachers unions are doing for their members.

How does it impact them? The government claim to have scientific proof that age matters more than the level of interaction when it comes to the risk of death and serious illness.

As a teacher have to spend 1 hour at a time in a room that is 50 m² with up to 24 students, up to 6 times a day. My SNA colleagues have to often provide intimate care to some of our students. To overlook them is particularly galling.

No one is suggesting that teachers are not interacting with lots of children. The science appears to say that the interaction is not a serious risk. Child to adult transmission is provably lower than adult to adult and the age profile of teachers makes them less prone to being seriously ill if they do get it. Older teachers will receive it earlier than older teachers because they are more at risk.

I was initially in an early(-ish) vaccination group that has been demoted too but I’m not complaining. Vaccination programs work for society, not for individuals.

05-04-2021 11:03am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

You said you wanted supermarket workers done before teachers. Which ones?

Except i didnt (said ive no issue if they were).....the fact you've resorted to outright lying,in place of facts and logic.......

Kind of says it all really

Dempo1 · 05-04-2021 11:09am

The ASTI and AGSI really should amalgamate and form MOAN.

It's really beyond tiresome listening to both showers moan and whinge about their entitlements and how hard done by they are. I suspect grass root members utterly embarrassed at this stage.

We've all suffered, we've all had risk, we're in this Together unless you sit on the executive of both these unions.

cms88 · 05-04-2021 11:09am

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Supermarket workers 'deserve' the vaccine more than teachers. There for 8 hours a day taking s**te from those who won't wear a mask, or from those too lazy to move away to pack their own shopping in a designated area. No clue what the Covid status of the next spluttering customer is either.
Weekends, Christmas late, Bank Holidays, the lot.

The ASTI are showing us who they believe are the true 'privileged' people of the country.

This is really backing up the idea that teachers think they're just better than everyone else.

Supermarket workers are nad have been a much higher risk since the very start, yet the likes to the ASTI would look down their noses at them.

Dempo1 · 05-04-2021 11:14am

cms88 wrote: »

This is really backing up the idea that teachers think they're just better than everyone else.

Supermarket workers are nad have been a much higher risk since the very start, yet the likes to the ASTI would look down their noses at them.

Couldn't agree more, throughout the Pandemic along with Frontline medical workers, supermarket staff have and continue to trundle on without a whisper, indeed I don't agree with much Leo the leaker has to say but he upset some of his FG colleagues at a recent PM when he wondered why not a word about retail workers and the like, instead TD'S More concerned about Gardai and Teachers, speaks volumes on where their loyalties rest. Disgusting quite frankly.

05-04-2021 12:00pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

indeed I don't agree with much Leo the leaker has to say but he upset some of his FG colleagues at a recent PM when he wondered why not a word about retail workers and the like,

How is anyone still falling for what Varadkar says?

Do you really think that retail workers feature at all on Varadkar's hierarchy of worthiness? Retail workers should be prioritised too, but they have no effective representation. ISME and RTI exist only for the bosses, which is also where Varadkar's sympathies are. I just cannot grasp how anyone is still ascribing an iota of sincerity to that man.

Anyway, it's probably true that the age-based approach is more efficient (faster, I mean) than an epidemiological approach that analyses the concentration of disease transmission. If we were following the medical science logic, the teachers and retail staff would be right.

I see some names in this thread (not you, but I'm not sure of your own position) of people who correctly assert that schools are a source of transmission, but have a near-adolescent grudge against teachers, saying teachers have no case here. That doesn't compute.

Look, it will be hard to validate retail workers but all teachers and guards are on a list somewhere in the bowels of government building. Prioritising them (as vectors of disease, not as victims of disease) seems very straightforward.

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 12:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Except i didnt (said ive no issue if they were).....the fact you've resorted to outright lying,in place of facts and logic.......

Kind of says it all really

You said you had no problem with supermarket staff being done before teachers. Does this mean you are not in favour of it? Rattled...

Gregor Samsa · 05-04-2021 12:17pm

Some very confusing quoting going on here by Blaaz_
and Finty Lemon. Would yiz not put your comments outside the quote tags?

05-04-2021 12:46pm

Teachers say we should listen to teachers when it comes to matters pertaining to education. Maybe we should let experts in public health decide on matters pertaining to public health.

They’ve been tone deaf recently.

For Forks Sake · 05-04-2021 12:53pm

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

Teachers provide more of our Presidents and Taoiseach's and any other profession, 2 of the last 3 Taoiseachs and the last 3 presidents were all educators .

Kenny and Martin have 5 years teaching between them, not sure what your point is meant to be

Finty Lemon · 05-04-2021 4:23pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Your takeaway from this is that no occupation at greater risk deserves consideration.

Mine would be that all occupations at greater risk deserve consideration

Your takeaway from this is that the occupation with a strong union should get nothing while those in power can point to the occupation without a strong union

My takeaway is that all occupations without a strong union should be pointing at the occupation with a strong union and demanding what they get

No war but a class war, brothers

No. My takeaway from this is that the unions do not get to decide public health policy. There are clear guidelines established across numerous jurisdictions that are designed to deliver the greatest level of mitigation in the shortest time. That model is age based once you move beyond the medically vulnerable. The primary reason this creates rancour among lobby groups is precisely because there is no specific lobby group for the over 50s, or the 60 to 70s or the 40 to 50s etc. If the epidemiological evidence said that teachers are not a high risk category, would that be accepted by unions? Or does non qualified opinion get a hearing too?

You seem to want to funnel policy through a hierarchy of interest groups. Treat based on who shouts loudest? Maybe I picked up wrong?

picturehangup · 05-04-2021 4:40pm

Darc19 wrote: »

It was looking like the ASTI would not have their annual teacher strike ballot this Easter...

Then they found a topic.

They want healthy 25 year old teaching staff to be vaccinated before those at far far higher risk.

Easter just wouldn't be Easter without the annual strike threat by exceptionally well paid ASTI teachers.

Someday some government minister will have the guts to pull them down several pegs

Just to put this into some context.
I am a 55 year old teacher, working in a secondary school. I come into contact with approx 100 students per day at the very least.

I was unfortunate to contract covid at work last Christmas, along with three others of my colleagues around the same time. I was very sick, but recovered well enough to continue online teaching a full timetable in January. Two of my colleagues were not so fortunate, and were hospitalised, although they were younger than I.

There is no way I wish to contract this horrible thing again, or any other potentially more harmful variant, as I might not be so lucky the next time, given that I suffer asthma. My husband is a cancer survivor, and miraculously he did not catch it from me on THIS OCCASION. I do not want this again, and I would like to be vaccinated NOW. Enough is enough, and the unions are quite justified in their pursuit of the vaccine for their members. Two metre rules, etc... it just doesn't happen in a real class situation, kids won't wear masks properly, we are sitting ducks, as proven.

So.. back off, please.

yabadabado · 05-04-2021 4:43pm

Most people what to be vaccinated NOW but that's just not how it works.

suicide_circus · 05-04-2021 4:50pm

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Bus drivers have more interactions than petrol pump attendants, who have more than supermarket workers, who have more than teachers. Should they be first?

I haven't seen a petrol pump attendant outside south east asia in 20 years

Get Real · 05-04-2021 5:05pm

Any of us who work from home shouldn't really have an opinion either way. In theory we've nowhere to go bar the shops.

But it shouldn't be about one group alone. All groups facing the public should be vaccinated first imo. If nothing, to save money on sick days/payment off two weeks of isolation to start.

Why should a 55yo be vaccinated if they work from home, when there's a potential for a younger bus driver/retail worker to get it, or at least become a contact and have to take two weeks off and either be paid by work for mot being there or claim 700 euro off the state.

No issue with all public facing roles getting the vaccine first if it were to happen.

meeeeh · 05-04-2021 5:08pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

How is anyone still falling for what Varadkar says?

Do you really think that retail workers feature at all on Varadkar's hierarchy of worthiness? Retail workers should be prioritised too, but they have no effective representation. ISME and RTI exist only for the bosses, which is also where Varadkar's sympathies are. I just cannot grasp how anyone is still ascribing an iota of sincerity to that man.

Anyway, it's probably true that the age-based approach is more efficient (faster, I mean) than an epidemiological approach that analyses the concentration of disease transmission. If we were following the medical science logic, the teachers and retail staff would be right.

I see some names in this thread (not you, but I'm not sure of your own position) of people who correctly assert that schools are a source of transmission, but have a near-adolescent grudge against teachers, saying teachers have no case here. That doesn't compute.

Look, it will be hard to validate retail workers but all teachers and guards are on a list somewhere in the bowels of government building. Prioritising them (as vectors of disease, not as victims of disease) seems very straightforward.

The question is who is most at risk from Covid not who is most at risk of getting Covid. A 65 year old is 70 times more likely to die from Covid than 25 year old (or something similar I'm quoting from memory). You have to vaccinate an awful lot of younger people to avoid deaths or hospital overcrowding for one 65 year old.

People always react in overly emotional way and think their position on the list has to do with their personal or professional worth. It pure statistics, less people in hospitals and less people dying should be the only priority. Not to mention that vaccinating young teachers just weeks before holidays makes no sense. If they are vaccinated with Pfizer somewhere in the middle of April they won't develop immunity till May and full immunity late in May, two weeks after the second dose.

So even in comparison to guards and shop workers it makes no sense to vaccinate school teachers as priority at the end of the school year.

The annual ASTI Easter strike threat

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