Operation Transformation 2019

NIMAN · 24-01-2019 10:20am

mloc123 wrote: »

The whole show is bull**** anyway. It is an 8 week crash diet that is not sustainable by any of the contestants.

I'd like to see RTe do a follow-up, to see how all the leaders from the past shows have done.

Then again, if it was to show a large % of them have fallen off the wagon, it hardly shows OT in a good light.

Sunny Dayz · 24-01-2019 10:57am

caviardreams wrote: »

I actually thought Aoife was really stirring things up there.

Their child isn't overweight and I can totally understand the mother wanting to also share Polish cuisine with her own child.

I thought Aoife's point was taken and blown completely out of proportion on both sides.
Surely Aoife realises that it was only week one of OT - the child is what 2 or 3 years of age. At that age some kids either eat everything that is handed to them or they get fixated on one food and want it for breakfast, dinner and tea. Sometimes getting kids at that age to eat can be a battle. Give the child another few weeks and she'll probably get curious as to what Daddy is eating.
On the wife's side - she seemed to take it as an insult to her traditional food and cooking and I don't think that's what Aoife meant. I think there are more issues going on there than what the child eats but that's between Cathal and Agi and I think it was unfair of OT to play that out on national tv.
If the team behind OT have any sense and want to give this guy a fair chance - they should sit down with them both and work out a food plan that is going to incorporate polish food into his meal plan - it's an Irish/Polish household and this should be taken into account if weight loss is to continue when the cameras stop rolling.

The Black Oil · 24-01-2019 10:58am

I've moved the OT 2019 thread from main TV forum to here and merged it with the one.

Sunny Dayz · 24-01-2019 11:08am

Actually just on the meal plans - this year they have admitted twice (and we are only what 2 or 3 weeks in) that the meal plan might not be working for someone in that they are not getting enough calories. Then we have the issue of a meal plan not taking any account of nationalities in the house. I clicked onto the website - do they not each have their own plan? - cos it's just showing the same dinner today for each and a range of breakfast, lunches and snack to chose from, the same for all participants.

Sunny Dayz · 24-01-2019 11:17am

NIMAN wrote: »

I'd like to see RTe do a follow-up, to see how all the leaders from the past shows have done.

Then again, if it was to show a large % of them have fallen off the wagon, it hardly shows OT in a good light.

This! I think they did a follow up show for maybe the 10th anniversary. They should every year do a number of follow on programs, a one hour special every quarter or something. Keep the leaders focussed and accountable and keep the nation on board. I've seen first hand people all getting out walking, etc when OT is on - and as soon as the show is over then they stop.

I follow a couple of past participants on social media (Siobhan from 2014 and Sean from 2017). Both of them are exercising regularly and mindful of what they eat. They talk of weight gains and losses, it's not plain sailing but it's part of their life. Killian from OT 2012 is a regular runner and writes for Irish runner magazine. I met David from OT 2018 briefly at parkrun recently and didn't know who he was until after.

But I have seen one participant from a few years ago and he seemed to do well for the first year but now he looks to be the same size he was when he went onto the show.

24-01-2019 11:27am

Being on this show is essentially rock bottom, they've all presumably tried to lose weight before or at least think that they've tried.

If you need this show to get your sh1t together to lose some weight (and the lads on the show are losing 5lbs/week+ when consuming 2000kcals/day, that suggests they were consuming 5000kcals/day+ to date) the odds are really stacked against you longterm in one way but surely they'll pick up the concept of what goes in is directly proportional to bodyweight which should stand them in good stead.

The lad working every day in the shop is fooked longterm IMO, a lad who is his mammies right hand man effectively. No balls or gumption. Afraid to take a day off to spend with his family. It's a fooking shop like, it won't go to sh1t in one day.

Dakota Dan · 24-01-2019 11:40am

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

I thought Aoife's point was taken and blown completely out of proportion on both sides.
Surely Aoife realises that it was only week one of OT - the child is what 2 or 3 years of age. At that age some kids either eat everything that is handed to them or they get fixated on one food and want it for breakfast, dinner and tea. Sometimes getting kids at that age to eat can be a battle. Give the child another few weeks and she'll probably get curious as to what Daddy is eating.
On the wife's side - she seemed to take it as an insult to her traditional food and cooking and I don't think that's what Aoife meant. I think there are more issues going on there than what the child eats but that's between Cathal and Agi and I think it was unfair of OT to play that out on national tv.
If the team behind OT have any sense and want to give this guy a fair chance - they should sit down with them both and work out a food plan that is going to incorporate polish food into his meal plan - it's an Irish/Polish household and this should be taken into account if weight loss is to continue when the cameras stop rolling.

It’s obviously added drama, she didn’t want to talk in front of the camera yet when they left and the camera crew stayed behind she had no problem sitting down in front of the camera and talked no about it.

Dakota Dan · 24-01-2019 11:43am

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

This! I think they did a follow up show for maybe the 10th anniversary. They should every year do a number of follow on programs, a one hour special every quarter or something. Keep the leaders focussed and accountable and keep the nation on board. I've seen first hand people all getting out walking, etc when OT is on - and as soon as the show is over then they stop.

I follow a couple of past participants on social media (Siobhan from 2014 and Sean from 2017). Both of them are exercising regularly and mindful of what they eat. They talk of weight gains and losses, it's not plain sailing but it's part of their life. Killian from OT 2012 is a regular runner and writes for Irish runner magazine. I met David from OT 2018 briefly at parkrun recently and didn't know who he was until after.

But I have seen one participant from a few years ago and he seemed to do well for the first year but now he looks to be the same size he was when he went onto the show.

I see a few former contestants around and they are still overweight, I’d say only a very small percentage keep up the weight loss.

road_high · 24-01-2019 12:05pm

Icsics wrote: »

Thought it was more like a summer dress. OT jump on a story & flog it...I'd put money on the teacher going back to taekwon do or whatever it was next week...& she'll be delighted she did! And it'll be very emotional!

Yea they have to get an emotional dramatic angle- apart from Jean I think they’ve been struggling this year for that line.
The guy from Sligo and the teacher girl aren’t particularly riveting tv to watch this year.

road_high · 24-01-2019 12:08pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

I see a few former contestants around and they are still overweight, I’d say only a very small percentage keep up the weight loss.

That’s terrible. I think the name is all wrong too- you can’t really “transform”in just a month or two. I’ve seen the big final episode with the fashion show and thinking some of them still had a major journey to go yet- they didn’t seem to emphasize that but it’s reality.

mloc123 · 24-01-2019 12:08pm

I wonder how the "Million pound challenge" they launched a few years ago is going

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/operation-transformation-short-of-weightloss-target-in-million-pound-challenge-34520152.html

Anthonylfc · 24-01-2019 12:20pm

fecking hate Kateryn Thomas , my god what a wretch

is she the only woman we have to do these type of shows ??

karl henry so far in the closet he's in narnia

that shop owners wife wasn't bad looking , there is hope for us all

24-01-2019 1:23pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

I see a few former contestants around and they are still overweight, I’d say only a very small percentage keep up the weight loss.

road_high wrote: »

That’s terrible. I think the name is all wrong too- you can’t really “transform”in just a month or two. I’ve seen the big final episode with the fashion show and thinking some of them still had a major journey to go yet- they didn’t seem to emphasize that but it’s reality.

Indeed, realistically a few pounds a week (at most) lost for 6 months is what's needed...... that'd be 5 or 6 stone.

Anthonylfc wrote: »

...........

that shop owners wife wasn't bad looking , there is hope for us all

I'd say the €€€€€s were a factor there :pac:

prunudo · 24-01-2019 1:44pm

I can see both sides of the Aoife and Agi argument. Nobody likes being told you're parenting skills are wrong especially in their own home and surely it is better to have their child eat at the same time every day rather than waiting for the shift working father to come home from work. Aoife should have delivered her message better and maybe there might have been an element of lost of translation in both language and cultural differences.

One thing is for sure though, it shouldn't have been aired the way it was. The show is about Cathal loosing weight not about the struggles in his family life.

Dakota Dan · 24-01-2019 2:13pm

At least Kathleen is after dropping the over the top excitement when a contestant hits their target weight loss.

road_high · 24-01-2019 3:25pm

I hope they don't just abdandon Cathal after it's over- he definitely needs support ongoing and intensive support. I could see him falling off the wagon for sure.

Azatadine · 24-01-2019 3:30pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

At least Kathleen is after dropping the over the top excitement when a contestant hits their target weight loss.

That used to drive me bananas!!!

Anthonylfc · 24-01-2019 3:49pm

KT has a face like haunted tupperware

flazio · 25-01-2019 1:46pm

There are some really horrible people in this forum.

Anthonylfc · 25-01-2019 2:23pm

flazio wrote: »

There are some really horrible people in this forum.

sorry Katheryn Thomas

Dakota Dan · 25-01-2019 6:39pm

flazio wrote: »

There are some really horrible people in this forum.

Ah well if you put yourself in the public eye you have to take criticism as well as praise. You should head over to the OT Facebook page where the glorification is abundant.

The Princess Bride · 25-01-2019 9:51pm

I've only just seen this week's episode.
Cathal has an uphill battle, and I'm not talking about on the scales.
Likewise with Paul, I can't imagine how hard it must be for his wife and family when he's working those hours- makes no sense.

I feel it'd be better, if they showed this for the 8 weeks. Then mentored and supported the people off camera for another 8 weeks, then back on TV for another perhaps month or so.
8 weeks is too short to make any sort of significant permanent change to one's habits.

For the record, I think Kathryn Thomas looks great.
She has a young baby and none of the excuses that too many people have for still having their baby weight 20 years later.

Dakota Dan · 26-01-2019 1:12am

The Princess Bride wrote: »

For the record, I think Kathryn Thomas looks great.
She has a young baby and none of the excuses that too many people have for still having their baby weight 20 years later.

That orange dress and clashing makeup with the big black false eyelashes didn't do her any favours this week. Nobody said she was carrying baby weight.

caviardreams · 30-01-2019 10:45pm

So her target this week was 2lbs and it is 3lbs next week even though they are doing the same plan every week as far as I know? Weight loss is not linear anyway, but if they are going to set a target you would think it would stay the same, or reduce to take account of their weight loss already etc. rather than increasing?

Sittingpretty · 30-01-2019 10:48pm

Jesus he runs a shop, not MI6.

Marengo · 30-01-2019 10:48pm

Poor Sligo man is feeling very low.

Marengo · 30-01-2019 10:49pm

Sittingpretty wrote: »

Jesus he runs a shop, not MI6.

All relative though if you're worn down and mental health effected.

Icsics · 30-01-2019 10:49pm

KT looking brutal again this week, make up is particularly bad

Marengo · 30-01-2019 10:51pm

Icsics wrote: »

KT looking brutal again this week, make up is particularly bad

She's fit athletically but sometimes it actually makes you look older when body fat is low.

Think she's toned down a bit for the better? Presenting wise.

Sittingpretty · 30-01-2019 10:56pm

Marengo wrote: »

All relative though if you're worn down and mental health effected.

Absolutely agree, I like him, he seems like a lovely person but a little perspective is needed. He is burned out but he needs to realise a day off won’t close his business and rely on the staff he has to do a good enough job not to need him on scene for just one day a week.

Marengo · 30-01-2019 10:57pm

It's a sad reality that so many people are unhappy. For millions of reasons, many which are out of our control.

Life is tough.

The Princess Bride · 30-01-2019 10:57pm

I don't understand how anyone gets to 18 stone.
Surely you get to 14/15stone, and feel your clothes tightening, and think, "hey, I need to do something about this."
Or is it easier to buy the next size up, than to take a look at yourself in a mirror?

Sittingpretty · 30-01-2019 10:58pm

Marengo wrote: »

She's fit athletically but sometimes it actually makes you look older when body fat is low.

Think she's toned down a bit for the better? Presenting wise.

I think she’s fabulous but it’s the make up that’s totally askew with the role she’s taking in here. She seems to be in night club make up while the other women on the panel have much more natural make up.

Marengo · 30-01-2019 10:59pm

Sittingpretty wrote: »

Absolutely agree, I like him, he seems like a lovely person but a little perspective is needed. He is burned out but he needs to realise a day off won’t close his business and rely on the staff he has to do a good enough job not to need him on scene for just one day a week.

Yes. When you get into bad habits and can't see the woods from the trees. Good man alright.

This 'luder' from Youghal wrecks my head!!

Marengo · 30-01-2019 11:00pm

The Princess Bride wrote: »

I don't understand how anyone gets to 18 stone.
Surely you get to 14/15stone, and feel your clothes tightening, and think, "hey, I need to do something about this."
Or is it easier to buy the next size up, than to take a look at yourself in a mirror?

I agree. Bar maybe you had some serious tough stuff going on?

wirelessdude01 · 30-01-2019 11:01pm

Sittingpretty wrote:

Absolutely agree, I like him, he seems like a lovely person but a little perspective is needed. He is burned out but he needs to realise a day off wonâ€™t close his business and rely on the staff he has to do a good enough job not to need him on scene for just one day a week.

That's a classic example of a micro manager

Marengo · 30-01-2019 11:03pm

All waiting for angry Aggie from Poland!

Icsics · 30-01-2019 11:04pm

Those dogs jumping all over everything & everyone are disgusting

Marengo · 30-01-2019 11:05pm

Icsics wrote: »

Those dogs jumping all over everything & everyone are disgusting

The house is dirty really.

Marengo · 30-01-2019 11:07pm

Aggie and the Donegal man have serious issues beyond weight loss..and from a health perspective his need is greatest. Needs 100% support.

He's a gentle sort too.

PauloMN · 30-01-2019 11:08pm

Maybe our family is unusual, but you'd never get the 4 of us sitting at dinner at the same time during the week. Try to always do it at weekends, but even then it's not always possible. Maybe they really mean it for young kids, but between GAA, running, swimming etc. and adults running etc. we never can arrange that!

prunudo · 30-01-2019 11:11pm

PauloMN wrote: »

Maybe our family is unusual, but you'd never get the 4 of us sitting at dinner at the same time during the week. Try to always do it at weekends, but even then it's not always possible. Maybe they really mean it for young kids, but between GAA, running, swimming etc. and adults running etc. we never can arrange that!

And unfortunately with the way modern families are going with both parents working, long commutes etc Aoifes utopia ideas of eating together are far from reality.

Ps. Not saying she's wrong but the way society is going isn't right either but its just a fact of modern life.

Marengo · 30-01-2019 11:12pm

Cathal looks like he's losing weight alright..keep it up man!

Marengo · 30-01-2019 11:13pm

Banana buns should be a no, no here!

wirelessdude01 · 30-01-2019 11:15pm

Marengo wrote:

Banana buns should be a no, no here!

Why?

caviardreams · 30-01-2019 11:16pm

I really dislike the new doctor - she comes across as very cold or something.

Marengo · 30-01-2019 11:17pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Why?

Any sort of buns. Too much sugar etc.

He needs fruit and veg, meat. Not one fizzy drink, bar of chocolate etc. That would be my thinking, he needs to be getting healthy asap.

Marengo · 30-01-2019 11:22pm

caviardreams wrote: »

I really dislike the new doctor - she comes across as very cold or something.

Find her worse than Eva? Suppose Eva was more passionate.

Ciara Kelly.. I wasn't keen on her tbh. Loved herself and screen time.

Marengo · 30-01-2019 11:25pm

Eddie is the Julian Benson of Operation transformation

Azatadine · 30-01-2019 11:36pm

I think that Eddie fella is a complete spoofer. He just looks and sounds "wrong" to me for some reason.

Operation Transformation 2019

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