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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • #5852
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,896 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    jmcc wrote:
    I am all for critical national infrastructure remaining in state hands.

    A public infrastructure bank should be setup for such activities, revenue from the use of services could be used to service the debts required from such a bank in order to create the infrastructure


  • #5853
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    buried wrote: »
    I won't begrudge anybody into what they might enjoy, but at the same time lets not f**king fool ourselves either. The Toy show is nothing but a marketing gimmick, a huge advertisement for international toy companies such as the likes of Disney.corp to flaunt their wares for the splurge over the next month. If any adult actually thinks the likes of Tubridy and his crew up in RTE are doing this shtick to 'make us all feel good' and nothing else, time to wise the f**k up.

    Nope.

    There was no real toys on display last night, focus was on the kids.

    The ones he did promote were largely Irish made.


  • #5854
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    jmcc wrote: »
    A 5G approach can make money. The Saorsat is primarily a one-way system while 5G is a two-way system that has many more options. In addition to TV delivery, it is possible to charge for other services with a 5G connection. It is that simple.

    Regards...jmcc

    No it can't.

    If an ISP is to setup 5G in a remote area with a handful of users they will lose money. It's not that difficult to understand.


  • #5855
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    buried wrote: »
    As long as your young ones are enjoying themselves that's all that matters. Probably and hopefully the only year we can give a pass to the noise as long as the young ones can feel a bit of Christmas early.

    It would be good if RTÉ made programmes for children year round not just at Christmas or because of a pandemic.


  • #5856
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Elmo wrote: »
    It would be good if RTÉ made programmes for children year round not just at Christmas or because of a pandemic.

    They do.


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  • #5857
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    buried wrote: »
    I won't begrudge anybody into what they might enjoy, but at the same time lets not f**king fool ourselves either. The Toy show is nothing but a marketing gimmick, a huge advertisement for international toy companies such as the likes of Disney.corp to flaunt their wares for the splurge over the next month. If any adult actually thinks the likes of Tubridy and his crew up in RTE are doing this shtick to 'make us all feel good' and nothing else, time to wise the f**k up.

    There was very little branding or talking about toys this year. Just focusing on the kids. And given people are choosing to watch it and it's not being forced on them it's much more similar to choosing to flick through the Argos or Smyth's catalogue than it is an Ad.

    Something simple and silly can be wholesome and entertaining. Everything doesn't need to be serious.


  • #5858
    Bowlardo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hate horse racing but this female was there on merit and RTE let her go.
    https://evoke.ie/2020/01/31/showbiz/tracy-piggott-rte

    She's an excellent presenter and knowledgeable. No doubt they will get vogue to replace her and talk about ladies hats


  • #5859
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    jmcc wrote: »
    A 5G approach can make money. The Saorsat is primarily a one-way system while 5G is a two-way system that has many more options. In addition to TV delivery, it is possible to charge for other services with a 5G connection. It is that simple.

    Regards...jmcc

    5G is a communications protocol. It isn't really suitable for TV delivery.

    Try watching YouTube over a data connection in many various locations. That's about the best that could be achieved. It's seriously dependant on proximity of the mast and obstructions in between. Now consider 5G has significantly less range than 4G. You need to be within 100meters of the mast in many cases with no obstructions between you and the mast. 5G offered high speeds than 4G in well served areas and lower speeds in poorly served areas.

    4G is actually much more suited to TV delivery than 5G

    It's not reliable enough for TV compared to our current solutions. You have to run expensive cabling to every mast so it would be hugely more expensive. And many masts.would only serve one property.


  • #5860
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Bowlardo wrote: »
    She's an excellent presenter and knowledgeable. No doubt they will get vogue to replace her and talk about ladies hats

    Worse, they got Ted Walsh's daughter, Kate, to replace her.

    The unfortunate thing for Tracy was that her private life (and the problems within) crept into the media.
    Once your private stuff overshadows your TV stuff...it's a ticking time bomb until you're replaced.


  • #5861
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Worse, they got Ted Walsh's daughter, Kate, to replace her.

    How can an ex jockey with a life time of experience in racing be "worse" than a "model"?

    Truly bizarre statement.


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  • #5862
    ShamNNspace
    Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Boggles wrote: »
    How can an ex jockey with a life time of experience in racing be "worse" than a "model"?

    Truly bizarre statement.

    Was Tracey Piggott a model onetime? I do believe she is the daughter of the greatest jockey of all time with a lifetime spent around horses and in the horse racing industry and an ex jockey herself, so I suppose that amounts to something


  • #5863
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Bowlardo wrote: »
    No doubt they will get vogue to replace her and talk about ladies hats
    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Worse, they got Ted Walsh's daughter, Kate, to replace her.
    ShamNNspace wrote: »
    Was Tracey Piggott a model onetime? I do believe she is the daughter of the greatest jockey of all time with a lifetime spent around horses and in the horse racing industry and an ex jockey herself, so I suppose that amounts to something

    Vogue wasn't.


  • #5864
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Boggles wrote: »
    Vogue wasn't.
    Boggles wrote: »
    How can an ex jockey with a life time of experience in racing be "worse" than a "model"?

    Truly bizarre statement.

    It's not the jockey I have issues with (kinda) it's the Walshes.

    Her brother, her dad, and herself.


  • #5865
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    It's not the jockey I have issues with (kinda) it's the Walshes.

    Her brother, her dad, and herself.

    What issues have you?

    Do you know them?


  • #5866
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    fritzelly wrote: »
    This is all getting very tiresome
    I would like to second this motion.


  • #5867
    99nsr125
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Vincent was probably the best of both worlds in that his combative style was very entertaining and brought in good viewer numbers but it wasnt completely dumbed down either mainly due to the vast knowledge of current affairs by Browne himself. He would often be quoting the constitution or some obscure legal case from decades back when making his points. In many ways it was educational along with the sh1t hitting the fan at regular intervals.

    Would agree that Prime Time is a shadow of its former self. I find it hard to believe Miriam is getting 300k a year to read off a teleprompter in 30 second segments. Thats all she does really, introduce some video package for 30 seconds and then kick back for 10 minutes, do it again for the next segment and then again for the programs conclusion. Shes just a presenter who reads off a teleprompter, shes not a journalist. Its astonishing she is on 300k for the little work she does.

    Miriam has been shìte for years but she's got tits so she gets to stay. Look at what happened to Brian Dobson, no tits, no chance.

    Switch over to Newsnight and watch Emily Matis as an example of being there on merit


  • #5868
    garrettod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    Kivaro wrote: »
    I would like to second this motion.

    What motion? 😊

    Thanks,

    G.



  • #5869
    garrettod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    Miriam has been shìte for years but she's got tits so she gets to stay. Look at what happened to Brian Dobson, no tits, no chance.

    Switch over to Newsnight and watch Emily Matis as an example of being there on merit

    While the info is slightly out of date, on the link below - it looks like Emily gets paid a lot less than our beloved Miriam too!

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jul/11/bbc-reduces-pay-gap-with-more-female-stars-earning-over-150000

    .... Absolute madness !!!!!!!!

    Thanks,

    G.



  • #5870
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,984 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'd say the success of the Toy Show this year, including the raising of 6mill for childrens charities, has probably saved Dee and RTE from getting asked any difficult questions about their finances for a while.

    Dee owes Ryan and the LLS staffers a pay rise!;)


  • #5871
    garrettod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'd say the success of the Toy Show this year, including the raising of 6mill for childrens charities, has probably saved Dee and RTE from getting asked any difficult questions about their finances for a while.

    Dee owes Ryan and the LLS staffers a pay rise!;)

    Not even close to being funny :(

    Thanks,

    G.



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  • #5872
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Back in the day, when the LLS was at the height of its powers- Gay Byrne would have been the one paying out 6 million to the charities.
    Easily-they could just throw the money away, because the LLS would pull in huge amounts in advertising.

    Wouldn't need a fundraiser.

    I think it's a bit rich to ask folks to pay money into a fundraiser when so many are facing an uncertain future.


  • #5873
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,777 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Back in the day, when the LLS was at the height of its powers- Gay Byrne would have been the one paying out 6 million to the charities.
    Easily-they could just throw the money away, because the LLS would pull in huge amounts in advertising.

    Wouldn't need a fundraiser.

    I think it's a bit rich to ask folks to pay money into a fundraiser when so many are facing an uncertain future.

    In all fairness you don't have to pay money into a fundraiser if you don't want to or indeed can't.
    Gay Byrne and I'd say Ryan Tubridy could never afford to pay 6 million into anything as well as they've both done in their relative careers and sure who knows, Ryan could have made a donation himself either way...

    That said there are generally questions to be asked about the need for charities in the first instance in a country that should do things far better but that's not a discussion for here.


  • #5874
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

    I think it's a bit rich to ask folks to pay money into a fundraiser when so many are facing an uncertain future.

    Yeah, fúck sake asking people to make a completely voluntary donation for child cancer!!

    Bloody Bastárds!

    **** Shakes Fist *****


  • #5875
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Boggles wrote: »
    Yeah, fúck sake asking people to make a completely voluntary donation for child cancer!!

    Bloody Bastárds!

    **** Shakes Fist *****

    So was the fund to stop child cancer, or give children cancer?

    You've got me confused as to what it was fundraising for.


  • #5876
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    So was the fund to stop child cancer, or give children cancer?

    That ain't funny lad.

    Poor form out of you.


  • #5877
    garrettod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    I would have liked to see the RTE high earners lead by example - they could easily have offered a weeks wages, for example, and never even noticed it.

    Ironically, that way, the population would still be making the donation, given we pay the licence fee, that in turn pays RTE staff.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • #5878
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    garrettod wrote: »
    I would have liked to see the RTE high earners lead by example - they could easily have offered a weeks wages, for example, and never even noticed it.

    Ironically, that way, the population would still be making the donation, given we pay the licence fee, that in turn pays RTE staff.

    The Beeb docked people's wages if they weren't on TV. Didn't see RTE do the same.


  • #5879
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    The Beeb docked people's wages if they weren't on TV. Didn't see RTE do the same.

    They get a stint on the LLS if they ever seem to be forgotten about


  • #5880
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,983 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    garrettod wrote: »
    I would have liked to see the RTE high earners lead by example - they could easily have offered a weeks wages, for example, and never even noticed it.

    Ironically, that way, the population would still be making the donation, given we pay the licence fee, that in turn pays RTE staff.


    low earners that breaks rules shouldn't be punished?


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  • #5881
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    'Late Late Show draws record 1.7 million viewers'... :eek:(

    ...across the world...

    from 138 countries... :rolleyes:(ahhh... so it's a number pulled out of their butts)

    https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/late-late-toy-show-watched-by-record-breaking-17m-viewers-across-the-world-39809772.html

    RTE have a habit of inflating the figures when it comes to Ryan's TV shows.

    Gay Byrne would easily pull in 1.7 million figures, as would Pat Kenny...

    From TV alone, and not by inflating figures.

    When Ryan Tubridy was presenting the Rose of Tralee (And making an absolute pigs ear of it) his numbers were well below Marty Whelan's. (Marty drew about a million plus viewers per night).
    Ryan got about 600, 000 viewers per night, but RTE would double them, adding the viewers before the newsbreak, and after the newsbreak, to give the 1.2 million figure.
    Didn't matter they were the same people tho, did it?

    Especially when the figures kept dropping while he was there.


  • #5882
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Heard it on the news earlier playing it up big time - don't trust any viewing figures from anyone especially RTE (except maybe Netflix et al who can actually verifiably count viewers)

    Its basically a fully sponsored show bringing in lots of money for RTE and the kids are a nice touch - and Tubridy is the most awkward person I've ever seen around kids


  • #5883
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Heard it on the news earlier playing it up big time - don't trust any viewing figures from anyone especially RTE (except maybe Netflix et al who can actually verifiably count viewers)

    Its basically a fully sponsored show bringing in lots of money for RTE and the kids are a nice touch - and Tubridy is the most awkward person I've ever seen around kids

    It's so awkward when he insults the kids too.

    I remember him making fun of one poor girl's laugh, when she was clearly nervous. She was self conscious for the rest of the bit.


  • #5884
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Tubridy is the most awkward person I've ever seen around kids

    You not old enough to remember Pat hosting it?


  • #5885
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Boggles wrote: »
    You not old enough to remember Pat hosting it?

    And even Tubridy out awkwards him. It's uncanny.


  • #5886
    KarlMarks
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭KarlMarks


    #RTEBIAS trending on Twitter. The sooner we get rid of RTÉ the better. Its no longer fit for purpose and exists as little more than a propoganda wing of the establishment. It was infiltrated by Stickies back in the 70s and 80s and their hatred towards republicans is obvious.


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  • #5887
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Pats Late Late was still 100 times better than Tubridy's Late Late.
    For all the stick Pat got, he was/is an excellent broadcaster, and he could actually interview a guest.

    Tubridy just comes across as a weasel of a man, with absolutely zero charisma, and zero likability with no doubt a huge team of researchers at his disposal to do his donkey work for him.
    Pat always knew/knows his subject matter inside out.


  • #5888
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Pats Late Late was still 100 times better than Tubridy's Late Late.
    For all the stick Pat got, he was/is an excellent broadcaster, and he could actually interview a guest.

    Tubridy just comes across as a weasel of a man, with absolutely zero charisma, and zero likability with no doubt a huge team of researchers at his disposal to do his donkey work for him.
    Pat always knew/knows his subject matter inside out.

    Pat was good with children too. Folks forget that.

    Legitimately. He had fun at the Toy show, for Tubridy it's clearly a slog.


  • #5889
    bossdrum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭bossdrum


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Pat was good with children too. Folks forget that.

    Legitimately. He had fun at the Toy show, for Tubridy it's clearly a slog.

    I'm amazed people actually think he likes doing it.
    It seems obvious to me that he constantly mentions it on the radio to distract at how bad he is at doing the regular Late Late.
    I wouldn't be too happy if my children's teachers treated them like Tubridy does on the Toy Show.


  • #5890
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    KarlMarks wrote: »
    #RTEBIAS trending on Twitter. The sooner we get rid of RTÉ the better. Its no longer fit for purpose and exists as little more than a propoganda wing of the establishment. It was infiltrated by Stickies back in the 70s and 80s and their hatred towards republicans is obvious.

    Some interesting comments on that Twitter discussion. The dislike of RTE is far and wide it appears.
    Just looking at the poll on this thread, around 97% want change at RTE, with 30% of posters wanting it scrapped altogether. Yet, even with the obvious distain/distaste of RTE and them knowing it, they will not even superficially try to change their ways. They could at least pretend to be impartial.

    This is from the RTE web site:
    Trust is the cornerstone of RTÉ. Our content should be honest, reliable, authoritative, accurate, impartial, fair and independent of vested interests.
    I just noticed the word "should" (my bold) in their mission statement. I think that's the problem right there. It is not even a real commitment from them.
    RTE is a disgrace and one of these days a whistleblower will forego the very lucrative wage, pension and/or redundancy package, and shine a public light on the obvious irregularities happening at our national broadcaster.


  • #5891
    Scoondal
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    I can't get Irish TV through my satellite dish. So I don't pay a fee. I've never had a request for a fee.


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  • #5892
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,561 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Scoondal wrote: »
    I can't get Irish TV through my satellite dish. So I don't pay a fee. I've never had a request for a fee.

    If you don't have a telly you don't need a licence.

    This thread might be helpful - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055794011&page=105


  • #5893
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Pat was good with children too. Folks forget that.

    Legitimately. He had fun at the Toy show, for Tubridy it's clearly a slog.

    Get some celebrity children on and watch Tubbs' little face light up.


  • #5894
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Scoondal wrote: »
    I can't get Irish TV through my satellite dish. So I don't pay a fee. I've never had a request for a fee.

    Sorry doesn't work that way. But the non-collection works exactly like that. Was in the post office the other day an old lady buying 10 stamps for the TV licence.


  • #5895
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,465 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Scoondal wrote: »
    I can't get Irish TV through my satellite dish. So I don't pay a fee. I've never had a request for a fee.

    Of course you can. You're just pointed at the wrong satellite and using the wrong LNB :p

    Scrap the cap!



  • #5896
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    RTÉ are lining us up like a set of dominos, but they'll be using a bowling ball to knock us down with their Christmas bonanza....

    Baz Ashamway will be here with a documentary about Fungie going missing!! (Thats Fungie the dolphin from the sea off Dingle for those of you that are unaware....)

    Lets crossover to RTÉ fanboys Joe.IswearTubridydidntsayF**K.ie for the latest on the Christmas schedule...
    That documentary is one of the highlights of the RTÉ Christmas TV schedule announced on Wednesday, which also includes The Real Field and The Busk - A Decade of Christmas on Grafton Street.

    /rte-christmas-schedule-710457


    Cancel Netflix everyone.. RTÉ are here to save 2020!


  • #5897
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Baz Ashamway will be here with a documentary about Fungie going missing!! (Thats Fungie the dolphin from the sea off Dingle for those of you that are unaware....)

    That mammal built more houses and put more people through college than any multi national ever did.

    (Fungie not Baz)

    Too right he gets honored in a documentary.


  • #5898
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Boggles wrote: »
    That mammal built more houses and put more people through college than any multi national ever did.

    (Fungie not Baz)

    Too right he gets honored in a documentary.

    And someone put his obituary up on rip.ie.


  • #5899
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Basically RTÉ are push new commissions because for some reason the Commissioning team took off for 2020 rather than searching for new shows to be made in 2021.
    RTÉ is not expected to reach its statutory minimum spend of about €40 million on independent television and radio commissions in 2020 after the Covid-19 pandemic led to substantial production disruptions across the sector for much of the year.
    Independent producers believe Montrose will instead avail of a clause in the Broadcasting Act that permits it to carry over any shortfall in spending to the following year. This has led to rising expectations that it will soon escalate its level of commissioning in a bid to play catch-up on its obligations.
    “think Family Fortunes rather than Mastermind”

    Think to yourself RTÉ Commissioner Family Fortunes is a Game Show, Mastermind is a Quizshow, they are different genres.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/rt%C3%A9-challenges-producers-on-saturday-night-quiz-show-1.4422775


  • #5900
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    45k seems like a pittance


  • #5901
    iseegirls
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2020/1202/1181778-rte-unwraps-christmas-2020-tv-and-radio-crackers/
    Main link to the Xmas press release.

    Some stellar standouts here amongst others:
    • Jennifer Zamparelli and Nicky Byrne get their sparkle back on to remember more footloose and fancy-free times as they look back over some magical moments in a one-hour Dancing with the Stars special.
    • At 6pm on 2FM The National Chart Show with Bláthnaid Treacy will announce this year's Christmas No.1 as well as replaying all the Number 1's from the year 2020.


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