Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Elmo

end of the road wrote: »

giving an update in the morning like other outlets will at a fraction of the cost is not public service broadcasting, and there may very well be people staying up to watch it as it's not an average general election.
rte are absolutely right to be giving serious coverage to this election, it's an election that will in all likely hood see serious changes to britain, brexit asside, should the result go as is being said, which is likely.

No reason for any travel at the same time, their crew in NI should host their Belfast programme, with their London Correspondent presenting in London, Dobo, Sharon and Miriam can present from Dublin.

This would be the same serious coverage your talking about at a fraction of the cost.

SPDUB

If people are going to criticise the UK election coverage they could at least watch it .

Sharon is not presenting any of it .

SPDUB

SPDUB wrote: »

If people are going to criticise the UK election coverage they could at least watch it .

Sharon is not presenting any of it .

She most certainly was earlier tonight.

SPDUB

Deleted User wrote: »

She most certainly was earlier tonight.

I've had their election programme on since 1105pm ( it started at 11pm ) and haven't seen her .

You do know her normal job is to present the 9 O Clock news .

minikin

RTDEE: “We’ve no monies...”

Produces and broadcasts five hour long live coverage of U.K. election count until 4am.

The mind boggles.

NIMAN

minikin wrote: »

RTDEE: “We’ve no monies...”

Produces and broadcasts five hour long live coverage of U.K. election count until 4am.

The mind boggles.

tbh, I have no issue with this tonight.

It has a massive impact on our country, so its good to cover it.

minikin

NIMAN wrote: »

tbh, I have no issue with this tonight.

It has a massive impact on our country, so its good to cover it.

And it’s free to watch on BBC... for anyone interested (myself included)... no need or demand for RTÉ to spend a cent on redundant live coverage (that I would speculate has next to zero viewership) of same.

end of the road

minikin wrote: »

And it’s free to watch on BBC... for anyone interested (myself included)... no need or demand for RTÉ to spend a cent on redundant live coverage (that I would speculate has next to zero viewership) of same.

rte are likely covering it from an irish perspective so it's probably not actually redundant.

minikin

end of the road wrote: »

rte are likely covering it from an irish perspective so it's probably not actually redundant.

Who was dobo discussing the results with?
What Irish perspective did this give?
Who is interested in this perspective?
What’s wrong with letting the news team cover the final result in a five or ten minute slot?

How is five hours of expensive live broadcast justified by an organisation that is financially and creatively bankrupt?

(presumably it’s for the tiny intersection of the <10% of viewers who rely on saorview with those interested in watching British political results at 4am)

The definition of redundant coverage.

Elmo

SPDUB wrote: »

If people are going to criticise the UK election coverage they could at least watch it .

Sharon is not presenting any of it .

I wasn't criticizing the coverage I was saying they didn't need to travel, doesn't matter who from Dublin is presenting.

RTÉ have an office in Northern Ireland with at least 3 reporters, one Irish Language report, one regional report (from what I can tell) and Tommy Gorman their NI correspondent. All three could have presented the programme from Belfast.

The same goes for London Dimitri O'Donnell could have presented the show from London.

With interjections from Dublin.

But I suppose Dobo and Miriam have to earn their keep.

AndrewJRenko

minikin wrote: »

And it’s free to watch on BBC... for anyone interested (myself included)... no need or demand for RTÉ to spend a cent on redundant live coverage (that I would speculate has next to zero viewership) of same.

Might as well be watching Tory TV as BBC - I had to turn off Marr gloating last night, couldn't stomach him at all.

xl500

xl500 wrote: »

Still could have interviewed from Dublin I see no benefit in having her in London

The cost of sending a couple of presenters to London for a night is less than what Joe Duffy will earn today from 1.45 to 3pm.

ednwireland

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Might as well be watching Tory TV as BBC - I had to turn off Marr gloating last night, couldn't stomach him at all.

they know whose paying the bills

GreenandRed

GreenandRed wrote: »

There's plenty of deadwood in RTE television. Some of them seem happy not to move with the times, their jobs untouchable. I'm not talking about presenters on big money here. They made a smart move a couple of years ago to outsource their childrens TV content, someone made a good decision for once. In 2019 viewers have more and ever-increaing ways to watch television online. Last week Amazon broadcast a full weeks Premier League program and will do the same in 2 weeks. RTE television are not moving with the time. They upgraded the content on the player when the main problem with it is the coverage and buffering issues across the country. I hear you on the public service broadcasting but what public service TV would you class as essential broadcasting and how much of it could be done online and cheaper rather than in Montrose?

Im not sure i agree outsourcing childrens content was a good idea. Maybe I have rose tinted glasses here but I'm sure the den was cheap as chips to produce. Buy in a few foreign (mostly American) cartoons and done and its an irish program for irish kids. Now its a clone of Nickelodeon so you might as well put reruns of glenroe on for all the people watching it.

smelly sock

The argument about costs and salaries is really interesting.

Surely they need to be slashed across the board at every level. But it needs to be proportionate though.
Over 50k - 3% cut
Over 60k - 5% cut
Over 100k - 10% cut
Over 125k - 15% cut
Over 150k - 25% cut

Then they need some redundancy packages also to clear out also. They will have to be generous to entice people.

The point I'd make is RTE could take 10 years to restructure and close the gaping black money swallowing hole fully. It takes that long to introduce a new culture also.

Culture of entitlement is a massive problem in that place.

smelly sock

smelly sock wrote: »

The argument about costs and salaries is really interesting.

Surely they need to be slashed across the board at every level. But it needs to be proportionate though.
Over 50k - 3% cut
Over 60k - 5% cut
Over 100k - 10% cut
Over 125k - 15% cut
Over 150k - 25% cut

Then they need some redundancy packages also to clear out also. They will have to be generous to entice people.

The point I'd make is RTE could take 10 years to restructure and close the gaping black money swallowing hole fully. It takes that long to introduce a new culture also.

Culture of entitlement is a massive problem in that place.

I wonder how much Aoengus Mcanally earns for producing liveline.

You'd wonder what his duties are. Making sure Joe isn't on mute? I reckon he's another middle manager on 100k plus for 5 hours work a week.

Elmo

GreenandRed wrote: »

They made a smart move a couple of years ago to outsource their childrens TV content, someone made a good decision for once.

Did they? They had said they weren't cutting costs when outsorce Children's content. Did they? Just wondering how this was a good move?

Elmo

Deleted User wrote: »

The cost of sending a couple of presenters to London for a night is less than what Joe Duffy will earn today from 1.45 to 3pm.

It's a pity that they have presenters already in situ, and that those that they sent are Joe Duffy equivalents.

end of the road

minikin wrote: »

Who was dobo discussing the results with?
What Irish perspective did this give?
Who is interested in this perspective?
What’s wrong with letting the news team cover the final result in a five or ten minute slot?

How is five hours of expensive live broadcast justified by an organisation that is financially and creatively bankrupt?

(presumably it’s for the tiny intersection of the <10% of viewers who rely on saorview with those interested in watching British political results at 4am)

The definition of redundant coverage.

actually it's the definition of non-redundant coverage and public service broadcasting.
last night is a perfect example of what rte should be doing. current affairs broadcasting.

Elmo

end of the road wrote: »

actually it's the definition of non-redundant coverage and public service broadcasting.
last night is a perfect example of what rte should be doing. current affairs broadcasting.

I agree, they could put an alternative news and current affairs programme on RTÉ2.

Brendan Bendar

Let’s give credit where credit is due.

Excellent coverage of the Uk general election by RTE radio.

Very important event for the future of this island and state.

I have no hesitation in complimenting them.

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder how much Aoengus Mcanally earns for producing liveline.

You'd wonder what his duties are. Making sure Joe isn't on mute? I reckon he's another middle manager on 100k plus for 5 hours work a week.

Leave Aonghus alone.

He is a national treasure, A NATIONAL TREASURE!!!!

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

Leave Aonghus alone.

He is a national treasure, A NATIONAL TREASURE!!!!

He does have a natural talent and natural looks - both for radio.

James Brown

Jesus I thought he was gone. Take about filler, the man was human filler material.

bigroad

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Jesus I thought he was gone. Take about filler, the man was human filler material.

No he works on the live line show ,producer I think.

Brendan Bendar

Among other things.......

James Brown

I mean when he was a presenter they use to roll him out to goof off here and there for decades.

dublinman1990

Just to clear a few mix-ups about who was presenting the UK elections last night on TV.

It was Dobbo in London along with the Prime Time presenters in Dublin & Belfast.

xl500

elperello wrote: »

In your opinion.
You will find however that lot's of us politics watchers will appreciate the extra attention to this really big story.

I take it all back Catriona Perrys Coverage was riveting

elperello

xl500 wrote: »

I take it all back Catriona Perrys Coverage was riveting

Confession time here.
I had a lot on today and when I saw the exit poll I exited stage left to bed at about 12