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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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  • #9052
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    There's a lot of people worried now.
    Myself included.
    I can feel my chest tightening all day.

    Please try get out for walks.
    Put your phone down and give yourself a media blackout for a few hours if possible.

    I know it's hard, but I've found it useful just trying to deal with everything day by day.
    Deal with the facts you have today.
    Try not to worry about tomorrow or after that. It's just to sore and hard to fathom now.
    Focus on the now.

    Best of luck everyone.
    We will get through this with everyone's help.


  • #9053
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,602 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    What are the checkpoints for?

    To check stuff

    To make sure people are adhering to the restrictions


  • #9054
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The market is going to rocket tomorrow because the US Fed is going to inject $700bn of QE and has unveiled a load of other measures today too.

    Going to be really strong days /on the financial markets for that reason.

    S+P futures are down 5% ?


  • #9055
    daheff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭daheff


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    What are the checkpoints for?

    Lockdown.

    We're going to be moving to a state where only essential workers are allowed out, where you can only got to supermarket or pharmacy.


  • #9056
    ZX7R
    Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    threeball wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the border closures in Europe are for public traffic only or will freight be impacted too. If that gets locked down then supply chains will start to fail. I presume they will let trucks carrying goods through

    Public only , freight transport is ok


  • #9057
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Must be the only person in ireland that doesn't have whatsapp :D


  • #9058
    Cypher_sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 8,159 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    That Spiked asshole Brendan O'Neill is on the press panel which explains everything.

    He seems quite spikey and prickly alright. They were shouting at each other just before I posted on here.


  • #9059
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,674 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    What are the checkpoints for?

    Checking for people smuggling bog roll


  • #9060
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The market is going to rocket tomorrow because the US Fed is going to inject $700bn of QE and has unveiled a load of other measures today too.

    Going to be really strong days on the financial markets for that reason.

    David McWilliams had an article in the IT yesterday that QE should involve putting cash into the back accounts of the individuals. The Fed's QE is a bond buying stimulus which doesn't help the individual.

    In any event, the Fed has its last roll of the dice here to keep the markets going, but covid19 is barely beginning in the US. This latest move will just inflate the bubble more and when it does crash, due to all this cheap money in the bubble, the effects will be devastating on the US.


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  • #9061
    Axfrderr
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Axfrderr


    Meanwhile in the US of A.....

    The LA Times
    Quote:
    "Liquor, marijuana and guns are also popular among coronavirus hoarders"
    "At Martin B. Retting Gun Shop in Culver City, a line of prospective customers stretched outside the door. Inside, they were shoulder to shoulder, waiting up to five hours for service. A fast-food truck was taking orders at the curb."

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-14/liquor-marijuana-and-guns-also-popular-among-hoarders-as-fear-grows-over-coronavirus

    My dogs will do grand for me when the hoards descend looking for my stash of quilted 3 ply....


  • #9062
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    whiskeyman wrote: »

    Please try get out for walks.
    Put your phone down and give yourself a media blackout for a few hours if possible.

    True my friend.

    I did exactly this today and it was positive for my mental health.

    Take care.


  • #9063
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    Pseudonym121 wrote: »
    I have friends who are doctors in the US hospital sector. It is beginning to dawn on their local hospitals how utterly F'ed they are. The US is going to be hit much, much, much harder than Italy or even Britain.

    It may well bounce tomorrow but that's a day trade or a few days at most. As this unfolds in the US over the next year their markets are going to plummet.

    Boris and Trump are going to be well and truly exposed after this is over. Two idiots with little regard for anything apart from money and enriching their mates.


  • #9064
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,602 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Not understanding you here?? Are you saying the incubation period (time for exposure to onset of visible symptoms) is 7 days or 14 days for most?

    John Hopkins was saying the median incubation period was 5.1 days with 97% showing symptoms by day 11.
    There are some cases that incubated up to 14 days before displaying symptoms. These may have been false positives in the original testing, but the health authorities have to assume that the incubation period is 14 days


  • #9065
    Pseudonym121
    Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭Pseudonym121


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Anyone know what the recovery rate among people that have been put on ventilators is? Or is there any data for this?

    [E] Well, with the caveat that this ONLY applies so long as the number of cases is kept low enough that the health service isn't overwhelmed it appears that:

    [F] a) 10% of confirmed cases ( as opposed to total cases in the community ) need to go on ventilators.

    [F] b) 2 to 3.5% of CONFIRMED CASES ( as opposed to total cases in the community ) die.

    [F] Total number of cases is almost certainly be much more than the number of CONFIRMED CASES. We don't know how much longer although there are epidemiological models you get different numbers depending on the assumptions you plug in and no-one knows which assumptions are correct.


  • #9066
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,594 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Airlines will request (order) thousands of their staff to take unpaid leave this week.


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  • #9067
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    rogieop wrote: »
    Jesus id snap your hand off for this to be all done and dusted in 2 months. I think we are looking at more alomg the lines of august/sept before we see any normality.

    If this is to be believed, the UK is truly, truly, utterly ****ed.
    Britain's coronavirus crisis 'could last until Spring 2021 with up to 8MILLION people - or 15% of the population - hospitalised, secret NHS briefing reveals' - as death toll leaps 14 in a day to 35

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8114925/Britains-coronavirus-crisis-Spring-2021-7-9million-people-hospitalised.html


  • #9068
    blackcard
    Registered Users Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    That Spiked asshole Brendan O'Neill is on the press panel which explains everything.

    I thought it was just me that didn't like this arrogant, smug git.


  • #9069
    touts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    kyote00 wrote: »
    aside from the virus, the potential for a global economic collapse is scary also....

    Potential? That ship sailed about 6 days ago.


  • #9070
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,931 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I'm down with my little lad since yesterday and staying for the next 2 weeks anyway. Luckily me and his mam still get on to be able to do this.

    But, as stupid as this may sound, I'm worried about my own place. What happens if travel restrictions and increased job losses come into play? I don't have much, but I really don't want to arrive home at some stage to find the place cleaned out.

    I'm tempted to make another run home and get whatever else I can, but she's very much against it.


  • #9071
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,812 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    There's a lot of people worried now.
    Myself included.
    I can feel my chest tightening all day.

    Please try get out for walks.
    Put your phone down and give yourself a media blackout for a few hours if possible.

    I know it's hard, but I've found it useful just trying to deal with everything day by day.
    Deal with the facts you have today.
    Try not to worry about tomorrow or after that. It's just to sore and hard to fathom now.
    Focus on the now.

    Best of luck everyone.
    We will get through this with everyone's help.

    Totally, good advice. Forecast for the next couple of days is mixed with showers in the afternoons so if you plan on getting out for a walk and fresh air plan for morning or early afternoon.


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  • #9072
    kevcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭kevcos


    Such naivety in thinking that a lock-down is some manner of sliver bullet against Coronavirus.
    A lock-down is more like instant gratification, in relative terms, for people afraid to face the reality that the majority of historical pandemics lasted years not months.


  • #9073
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Army have plenty of truck drivers although not sure. We have lots of supermarkets, not so many soldiers.


    DOF is about 10k. Large supermarkets bit over 1k?

    Should be ok


  • #9074
    Bob24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    coolshannagh28 wrote: »
    S+P futures are down 5% ?

    Maybe people wondering why the hell the Fed is making yet another emergency decision even though their next regular meeting is scheduled very soon (Tuesday I believe).

    I certainly do wonder - there must be something very wrong in the US financial plumbing (repos have also rampes up like crazy).


  • #9075
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    To summarize social isolation, keep to yourself as much as possible. If you have to mix with others keep it to the bare minimum. If you have to shop, pick a quiet time or a quiet shop. Avoid panic buying times. Avoid gatherings and crowds as much as possible including family gatherings. If you meet the extended family for dinner once a week consider taking a break for a couple weeks. Also, kids birthday parties might have to be cancelled or postponed as these bring together a large number of kids and adults. It only takes one person with the virus to spread it to many others.


  • #9076
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,975 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    .

    The approach of managing it numbers wise needs the realization that this will need to be maintained a lot longer than people are thinking and most likely will have accept that said services will very likely see a drop in standards due to the economic knock on cause 2/3 weeks ain't gonna hack it unfortunately.

    Of course it will take longer than 2 weeks, but as we have seen
    the measure applied in South Korea and China have shown to be effective in improving the situation



    Relying on a vaccine as the solution seems flawed, as the virus will hopefully hit its peak in terms of transmission with these measures before a vaccine can likely be produced and deemed safe to use on humans.


  • #9077
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,812 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    kevcos wrote: »
    Such naivety in thinking that a lock-down is some manner of sliver bullet against Coronavirus.
    A lock-down is more like instant gratification, in relative terms, for people afraid to face the reality that the majority of historical pandemics lasted years not months.

    Not a safety net but a solution to aid the controllability of the situation.


  • #9078
    megatron989
    Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭megatron989


    Do we have any information on how a person who's obese or morbidly obese would handle this? It's not listed as a factor but I wouldn't think you'd be in the best position to fight it in such a state.


  • #9079
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    blackcard wrote: »
    I thought it was just me that didn't like this arrogant, smug git.

    Spiked moved from iconoclastic counter-culture to a bunch of contrarian asshats very quickly. They probably just saw which way the Trumpian wind was blowing.


  • #9080
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    spookwoman wrote: »
    For us that are not social creatures it will be probably easy, for the ones that have to be out socialising it will be hard and I can see people not obeying it

    I'm quite introverted and can work from home so this will be no bother to me. My housemate is very extroverted and needs to be out and about or having a chat. Housemate has no wfh capability.

    I can forsee that being quite testing Tbh.


  • #9081
    JRant
    Registered Users Posts: 13,151 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    No such thing as common sense and a couple of pubs full of Yahoo's is all it takes to fcuk the country.

    Nah, that's just the 24hour news media cycle in full swing. Everything is doom and gloom with the media, crisis centre this, emergency committee that. It may come as a surprise but the majority of people like living and will take the necessary precautions to do that.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • #9082
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I'm down with my little lad since yesterday and staying for the next 2 weeks anyway. Luckily me and his mam still get on to be able to do this.

    But, as stupid as this may sound, I'm worried about my own place. What happens if travel restrictions and increased job losses come into play? I don't have much, but I really don't want to arrive home at some stage to find the place cleaned out.

    I'm tempted to make another run home and get whatever else I can, but she's very much against it.

    We are a long, long way from law and order breaking down completely. I don't think this is a concern.


  • #9083
    yasmina
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭yasmina


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    He said Beasty is a great guy doing a fantastic job and we are lucky to have great people like Beasty helping win the war against Covid-19.

    Absolutely love this thread for these lol gems at this time of madness.


  • #9084
    UrbanSprawl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    If this is to be believed, the UK is truly, truly, utterly ****ed.



    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8114925/Britains-coronavirus-crisis-Spring-2021-7-9million-people-hospitalised.html

    If the UK are fooked so are we .
    The Guardian running same story.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised


  • #9085
    Andrew00
    Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    There's a lot of people worried now.
    Myself included.
    I can feel my chest tightening all day.

    Please try get out for walks.
    Put your phone down and give yourself a media blackout for a few hours if possible.

    I know it's hard, but I've found it useful just trying to deal with everything day by day.
    Deal with the facts you have today.
    Try not to worry about tomorrow or after that. It's just to sore and hard to fathom now.
    Focus on the now.

    Best of luck everyone.
    We will get through this with everyone's help.

    Same here. Not even exaggerating but I've had difficulty trying to gasp air in all day. Tight chest


  • #9086
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    My wife along with 600+ workmates all have to work in a factory tomorrow. I can't understand why it's still open when pubs etc are closing and people are talking about social distancing.


  • #9087
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    Same here. Not even exaggerating but I've had difficulty trying to gasp air in all day. Tight chest

    You’re not alone. Those feelings are coming and going for me. Take care.


  • #9088
    Steve F
    Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Steve F


    kevcos wrote: »
    Such naivety in thinking that a lock-down is some manner of sliver bullet against Coronavirus.
    A lock-down is more like instant gratification, in relative terms, for people afraid to face the reality that the majority of historical pandemics lasted years not months.

    Yep 1918 lasted till 1921 when the virus mutated to a less potent strain


  • #9089
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    megatron989 wrote: »
    Do we have any information on how a person who's obese or morbidly obese would handle this? It's not listed as a factor but I wouldn't think you'd be in the best position to fight it in such a state.

    It's a factor.


  • #9090
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    JRant wrote: »
    Nah, that's just the 24hour news media cycle in full swing. Everything is doom and gloom with the media, crisis centre this, emergency committee that. It may come as a surprise but the majority of people like living and will take the necessary precautions to do that.

    169 is 0.00338% of 5,000,000.


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  • #9091
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    My wife along with 600+ workmates all have to work in a factory tomorrow. I can't understand why it's still open when pubs etc are closing and people are talking about social distancing.

    There's a big economic difference between the tertiary and the primary industrial sectors when it comes to keeping the fires lit. What's your line of work?


  • #9092
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,812 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I'm quite introverted and can work from home so this will be no bother to me. My housemate is very extroverted and needs to be out and about or having a chat.

    I can forsee that being quite testing Tbh.

    My father would be like your housemate, he goes out in the morning to check the post and he’s not seen for half an hour until you’d look out and he’s hanging over the garden wall yapping to a neighbor... he’s been warned though, I’ve told him the mother can get the post from now on. :pac:


  • #9093
    Rattlehead_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭Rattlehead_ie


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I'm down with my little lad since yesterday and staying for the next 2 weeks anyway. Luckily me and his mam still get on to be able to do this.

    Consider me jealous in a way. I'm left with the possibility that I won't get to see my little girl for weeks now.


  • #9094
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I'm down with my little lad since yesterday and staying for the next 2 weeks anyway. Luckily me and his mam still get on to be able to do this.

    But, as stupid as this may sound, I'm worried about my own place. What happens if travel restrictions and increased job losses come into play? I don't have much, but I really don't want to arrive home at some stage to find the place cleaned out.

    I'm tempted to make another run home and get whatever else I can, but she's very much against it.

    They sound like they are both low risk in any case. I would get my stuff if worried about a break-in. You're probably walking a shaky line though.


  • #9095
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    My wife along with 600+ workmates all have to work in a factory tomorrow. I can't understand why it's still open when pubs etc are closing and people are talking about social distancing.

    What do they produce in the factory?


  • #9096
    Adiboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    megatron989 wrote: »
    Do we have any information on how a person who's obese or morbidly obese would handle this? It's not listed as a factor but I wouldn't think you'd be in the best position to fight it in such a state.

    I guess if you were morbidly obese you probably would have a few underlying health issues. Cardiac, diabetes etc


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  • #9097
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    UrbanSprawl wrote: »
    If the UK are fooked so are we .
    The Guardian running same story.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised

    UK strategy is insane.
    Maybe a hard border is not a bad idea after all?


  • #9098
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    UrbanSprawl wrote: »
    If the UK are fooked so are we .
    The Guardian running same story.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised

    It sounds like an absolute worst case scenario though. Most of the virus experts have said this week that new viruses are totally unpredictable and it's impossible to forecast what they will do.


  • #9099
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    megatron989 wrote: »
    Do we have any information on how a person who's obese or morbidly obese would handle this? It's not listed as a factor but I wouldn't think you'd be in the best position to fight it in such a state.

    There was some Dr on the Joe Rogan podcast and he said it would be worse in the US because of obesity.


  • #9100
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Avoid panic buying times.

    Has any pattern emerged suggesting what these times are?


  • #9101
    brookers
    Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭brookers


    Hi would anybody know if you dont have the required amount of class A stamps would you still be entitled to jobseeker benefit. I only started working last year after a good few years of not working. I dont have 39 As in 2018 or 2019.


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