La Flamme Rouge off topic discussion

tomasrojo · 28-04-2020 3:44pm

I think the plan is that it'll go all the way to Dawson Street when it's completed. But I didn't see any mention of Grafton St.

tomasrojo · 28-04-2020 3:45pm

More here:
https://irishcycle.com/2020/04/28/contra-flow-cycle-track-installed-on-dublin-street-after-32-year-wait/

joey100 · 29-04-2020 10:14am

Thought I'd put this up in here rather than it's own thread, and I think I know the answer already. Looking at a Vitus bike, can buy through wiggle for around 500 euro cheaper than CRC, mainly because I have a good discount in wiggle. I'd like to see the bike first before I'd buy, so would like to head up to CRC once this lockdown is over and look and buy there. Is there any chance that CRC will match the wiggle price/my discount? I'd normally be against going to a shop to have a look at something and then buying somewhere else, but if they are the same company is my moral dilemma not a big deal?!

CramCycle · 29-04-2020 10:38am

joey100 wrote: »

Thought I'd put this up in here rather than it's own thread, and I think I know the answer already. Looking at a Vitus bike, can buy through wiggle for around 500 euro cheaper than CRC, mainly because I have a good discount in wiggle. I'd like to see the bike first before I'd buy, so would like to head up to CRC once this lockdown is over and look and buy there. Is there any chance that CRC will match the wiggle price/my discount? I'd normally be against going to a shop to have a look at something and then buying somewhere else, but if they are the same company is my moral dilemma not a big deal?!

Wiggle and CRC are the same shop, as in Wiggle own CRC. If you want to specifically buy via CRC, drop them a mail, they shouldn't have an issue matching but could just as easily boost the wiggle price.

Eamonnator · 29-04-2020 5:32pm

I have an old mountain bike, which I acquired in 1999. It was a beautiful bike in it's day, titanium frame, Rockshok forks, full XTR groupset and really light Mavic wheels. Down the years, it has gotten a lot of use and a great deal of abuse. It was relegated to be my going to the shops bike. As parts failed, I replaced them with inferior components. Last year, I decided to upgrade the bike a bit. I got carbon bars, stem and seat post from eBay for about 60 euro. I put a Charge Spoon saddle on it. Crankset is Shimano Alivio. Derailleurs are Tiagra. The front wheel is original, back wheel is Shimano XT with a Mavic rim, the forks are rigid aluminium Chinese specials, which cost me 40 euro. I have slick tyres on it and cheap Shimano SPDs. It looks like a ball of sh1te, but actually is a lovely comfortable bike to ride.
I got a good bit of use out of it last year and in the last month I have been using it a bit for 2km limit spins.
Hang in there, I'm getting to the point.
There was a bike featured on Cycling News lately and somebody posted it here on another thread. It's a Pinarello Banesto bike, that was used by Indurain in the TdF. in 1994
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ebay-finds-indurains-1994-pinarello-banesto-team-edition-bike/
It's for sale on eBay for 59,000 euro.
Stay with me, nearly there

My 20 year old piece of MTB crap is about 400 grammes lighter than Indurain's Pinarello. How does that make sense?

magicbastarder · 29-04-2020 5:51pm

sod that, i wanna see a photo of your bike.

lissard · 29-04-2020 5:53pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

My 20 year old piece of MTB crap is about 400 grammes lighter than Indurain's Pinarello. How does that make sense?

He had some engine, that fellow. Weight never seemed to slow him down.

Eamonnator · 29-04-2020 6:19pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

sod that, i wanna see a photo of your bike.

I still don't know how to post photos. I can't get my head around it.

cletus · 29-04-2020 6:38pm

I'd like to see a picture too.

On a different note, Hambini videos are being recommend to me recently, so I looked at one or two. Does this guy rate any bikes or bike brands, or does he just shït on everything

magicbastarder · 29-04-2020 6:41pm

i find what very little i've seen of him tiresome. in one clip he was ragging on the employee of one of the cycling mags, and it was personal, unnecessary abuse. so i've avoided him since.

Eamonnator · 29-04-2020 7:01pm

Does this work?

magicbastarder · 29-04-2020 7:02pm

it does indeed. lovely looking machine.

Eamonnator · 29-04-2020 7:04pm

and there goes my anonymity.

magicbastarder · 29-04-2020 7:07pm

you mentioned the front wheel is original, but the rear triangle has mounts for disc brakes - but the front wheel is a rim brake model was it just that it was supplied as disc compatible?

i have a 2003 or 2004 stumpjumper in criminally good nick, i should take it out more.

magicbastarder · 29-04-2020 7:08pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

and there goes my anonymity.

if you want i can remove it from your post and upload it with your identity scrubbed from the photo?

Eamonnator · 29-04-2020 7:17pm

I wasn't really being serious. If anybody was interested, I'm sure they could find my identity quite easily form my posts.

magicbastarder · 29-04-2020 7:17pm

i took the liberty...

Eamonnator · 29-04-2020 7:22pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

you mentioned the front wheel is original, but the rear triangle has mounts for disc brakes - but the front wheel is a rim brake model was it just that it was supplied as disc compatible?

i have a 2003 or 2004 stumpjumper in criminally good nick, i should take it out more.

Yes, funny that, the bike came with V brakes, but had the disc brake mounts.
It was a Raleigh bike and I suppose 1999 was a kind of transition year for MTBs.
disc brakes were becoming a bit more common at that stage and I suppose they wanted a frame that could cater for both brake systems.

edit.
If I'd known you were going to do that, I'd have spruced the old girl up a bit and taken a better photo.
That's deadly, what you did with the name.

eeeee · 29-04-2020 7:44pm

That's an absolutely beautiful bike E. I think the deserve some nicer stuff, the frame is stunning. I think a full rebuild with original XT and all kinds of fanciness is in order :P
In all seriousness though the frame is stunning. Disc mounts and everything. I have named them Melde. Could be a perfect gravel/adventure bike...or XC machine, or or or...!

If that's your pub bike what's the rest of your stable like?!

magicbastarder · 29-04-2020 7:48pm

eeeee wrote: »

If that's your pub bike what's the rest of your stable like?!

we need a 'show us your pub bike' thread.

eeeee · 29-04-2020 7:51pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

we need a 'show us your pub bike' thread.

Oh now you're talking. I only washed mine last week

Eamonnator · 29-04-2020 8:17pm

eeeee wrote: »

That's an absolutely beautiful bike E. I think the deserve some nicer stuff, the frame is stunning. I think a full rebuild with original XT and all kinds of fanciness is in order :P
In all seriousness though the frame is stunning. Disc mounts and everything. I have named them Melde. Could be a perfect gravel/adventure bike...or XC machine, or or or...!

If that's your pub bike what's the rest of your stable like?!

A neo retro Peugeot 653 with Veloce groupset, that is in mint condition.
A Planet X Carbon Pro with Sram Force.
A Canyon Ultimate CF SLX with Sram Red and Roval Rapide 60mm wheels, that is completely wasted on me.

magicbastarder · 29-04-2020 8:36pm

speaking of reynolds, does anyone have a handy guide to understanding the tube names?
i believe 531 is lighter than 725, for example, but am curious as to whether the second digit is more important than the first, as a result.

Wishbone Ash · 29-04-2020 8:45pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

speaking of reynolds, does anyone have a handy guide to understanding the tube names?
i believe 531 is lighter than 725, for example, but am curious as to whether the second digit is more important than the first, as a result.

Knock yourself out!

Steel
SMS - Plain gauge (0.8mm) drawn tubeset in high tensile steel.[8] Replaced 531 plain gauge in 1980, replaced by 453.
453 - cromoly steel alloy. Reynolds produced only the 3 main tubes in this alloy and they were single butted, replaced by 500 series.
500 - A chromium-molybdenum (CrMo) steel, seamed, plain gauge tubeset of 3 main triangle tubes
500ATB - Mountain, All terrain, Off-road
500 Magnum - Same use as ATB
501 - Reynolds 501 was a chromium-molybdenum (CrMo) steel, seamed, butted 3-tubes tubeset that made its debut about 1983 and was available in two different thicknesses.
501ATB - Mountain, All terrain, Off-road
501 Magnum - Same use as ATB
501SB - Single Butted
501SL - Special lightweight (SL) tubeset
K2 - Reynolds K2 was a chromium-molybdenum (CrMo) steel similar to 501, seamed, butted tubeset, with eight laterally aligned ribs on the butt section, designed and produced exclusively for Raleigh between about 1993 and 1995[9]
Optima - A chromium-molybdenum (CrMo) steel, seamed, butted tubeset designed and produced exclusively for Raleigh from 1995. Similar to 501 but tweaked for tig welding.[9]
525 - Cold worked AISI-4130 (CrMo). Yield Strength/Ultimate Tensile Strength: 600/700 MPa, density 7.78 g/cm3 8 tube set
525-Triathlon - almost identical to 525, with the only differences being seat stays are 0.1mm thinner, and chainstays are 0.1mm thicker, than standard 525
520 - is the same as 525, made under license in Taiwan, to the same specs and qc standards as for 525. For proximity to manufacturing in South-East Asia.
531 - Manganese/Molybdenum. YS/UTS: 695/803 MPa (45-52 Tsi, 100-130 ksi) (number quoted are for after (lower) and before (higher) brazing), density 7.85 g/cm3 Starting in about 1980 tubesets of different gauges were named as follows.
531ATB - Designed for Mountain, All terrain, Off-road
531Competition/531C - Competition Racing tubeset. Road racing, track, time trial and cyclo-cross. main tubes were 8/5/8 double butted
531CS - Club Sport. Double butted 531 main tubes, 501 forks and stays.
531Magnum - Oversize, heavy gauge tubeset for use in ATB's.
531OS - Oversize tubeset
531Professional - Superseded 531SL, thinner and 150g lighter than 531Competition.
531SL - Special lightweight (SL) tubeset, comprising 531 main tubes drawn thinner than standard 531. Later named 531Pro.
531 Speed Stream - 531SL Oval shaped aerodynamic tube. 50g heavier than 531C but 100g lighter than 531ST.
531ST - Special Touring tubeset[10]
531 Super Tourist - Superseded ST.
531DS Designer select tubing. Alternative 531 tubes with differing gauges and profiles were available to the specialist builder.
631 - Seamless air-hardened. UTS: 800-900 MPa, density 7.78 g/cm3
631OS - Oversize tubeset
653 - Was a mixed tubeset with a 531pro main triangle. Stays used 753r and fork blades were borrowed from the 531c tube set.
708 - 708 was a tube set in Reynolds' range in the 1980s. It has main tubes with special section. These were not butted, but had 8 flats running along the length of the tube. The rear stays would be 753.
725 - Heat-Treated 525; AISI4130 (CrMo), with strength placing it just above 921 and below 931; UTS: 1080-1280 MPa, density 7.78 g/cm3
725os - Oversize version of the 725 tubeset
731OS - Oversize tubeset introduced in 1992 double butted oversized tubes with laterally aligned stiffening ribs on the but sections to maximize stiffness and torsional rigidity. Tubeset: Strength steering tube and fork 802N/mm2, top, down and seat tube 925N/mm2 and rear triangle 1315N/mm2.[11]
753 - Heat-Treated Manganese-Molybdenum. Essentially 531 made with reduced wall thickness and heat treated to increase tensile strength. UTS: 1080-1280 MPa (70-83 Tsi, 157-186 ksi) Complete tube set of 11 tubes (Frame 8, Fork 3). 753 can only be lugged and fillet-brazed with an alloy of 56% silver below 700 degrees Celsius and sale is restricted only to approved builders certified by Reynolds
753ATB - Mountain, All terrain, Off-road
753R - Road tubeset
753T - Track tubeset, thinner tubes for track use
753OS - Oversize tubeset
853 - Seamless air-hardening heat-treated. UTS: 1250-1400 MPa, density 7.78 g/cm3
853OS - Oversize tubeset
921 - Cold-work stainless steel
931 - Precipitation hardening stainless steel. Tubing introduced in 2012. Can be used with 953 to reduce overall frame costs.
953 - Maraging stainless steel. Introduced in 2005. UTS: 1750-2050 MPa, density 7.8 g/cm3
Aluminium
7005 - Al-Zn alloy. UTS: 400 MPa, density 2.78 g/cm3
6061 - Al-Si-Mg alloy. UTS: 325 MPa, density 2.70 g/cm3
X-100 - Al-Li Alloy. UTS: 550-600 MPa, density 2.65 g/cm3
Titanium
6Al-4V - Seamless ELI Grade. UTS: 900-1150 MPa, density 4.42 g/cm3
3Al-2.5V - Seamless. UTS: 810-960 MPa, density 4.48 g/cm3
CP 2 - Supplied to Raleigh during the 1990s
Magnesium
MZM Electron - Magnesium Alloy. UTS: ~300 MPa, density ~1.80 g/cm3

rubadub · 29-04-2020 9:15pm

https://twitter.com/dmorey/status/1255266579186671616

magicbastarder · 29-04-2020 10:15pm

one thing i find weird is that outside of the bubble of social media i follow which is basically cyclists talking to fellow cyclists, i suspect the ratio of 'wow, isn't it great to have so much less motor traffic on the roads' is probably 1:1 with 'joggers are assholes'.

though i did get a chuckle at one comment which was something like 'for people so obsessed with distances, joggers are surprisingly poor at judging what 2 metres is'.

Rogue-Trooper · 30-04-2020 11:21am

magicbastarder wrote: »

though i did get a chuckle at one comment which was something like 'for people so obsessed with distances, joggers are surprisingly poor at judging what 2 metres is'.

Had an interesting one this morning cycling into work at about 7:30. Met a jogger coming towards me running in the bus lane on the Howth Road, except he was running on the white line between the bus lane and the traffic lane! So basically in the middle of the road!

Harrybelafonte · 30-04-2020 11:59am

Rogue-Trooper wrote: »

Had an interesting one this morning cycling into work at about 7:30. Met a jogger coming towards me running in the bus lane on the Howth Road, except he was running on the white line between the bus lane and the traffic lane! So basically in the middle of the road!

Certain runners have always been like this. It's very similar to a mindset in certain cyclists and just people in general, so it's not necessarily unique to the activity undertaken by those with the mindset.

More importantly, how do we differentiate between joggers and runners. And should a differentiating term be introduced in cycling parlance, or does the term MAMIL already cover it.

Eamonnator · 30-04-2020 12:28pm

How about Dumb & Dumber?

Seth Brundle · 30-04-2020 1:15pm

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