La Flamme Rouge **off topic discussion**

tomasrojo

Yes, but which is right! There's only one way to find out ...

tomasrojo

(This is pretty much how discourse works on Twitter, actually.)

Chips Lovell

tomasrojo wrote: »

Yes, but which is right! There's only one way to find out ...

Neither really. I think the only thing you can base arguments on are statistics, i.e. odds of death or serious injury.

tomasrojo

I do mention how cycling compares with walking to people sometimes, but they mostly never believe that it doesn't have a drastically different risk profile.

Chips Lovell

How people feel about certain things is very powerful. Often, when shown contradicting evidence, the tendency is to double down on their opinion rather than change it.

tomasrojo

Yeah, for someone who's posted a lot here, I do mostly try to avoid talking about cycling in real life these days.

tomasrojo

And to be fair, how people feel about things is pretty important, given that, as you say, and in my experience, you can't poindexter them into believing otherwise.

Which I suppose is part of what the Velo-City attendees were getting at. But they also thought the city centre was nuts.

buffalo

Chips Lovell wrote: »

How people feel about certain things is very powerful. Often, when shown contradicting evidence, the tendency is to double down on their opinion rather than change it.

https://twitter.com/cafernblue/status/1204492897002958849

Chips Lovell

Likewise, I've given up on proselyting with family, friends, and colleagues. You get nowhere. However, what I find does work is example. In my experience, the more cyclists someone knows, the greater their chances of trying it themselves.

tomasrojo

That paradox above is excellent. I am now going to burn out like the android in I, Mudd.

magicbastarder

Chips Lovell wrote: »

Neither really. I think the only thing you can base arguments on are statistics, i.e. odds of death or serious injury.

cycling doesn't need to be specifically *dangerous* per se, in terms of this discussion; it just needs to be uncomfortable or unpleasant (if we're talking in terms of discussing it with people not willing to cycle).
i think a lot of people would conflate those various terms too.

tomasrojo

If anyone was wondering whether RTÉ would ever decide what AA Roadwatch is, they finally have committed themselves. It's an independent radio producer. But that means they shouldn't be announcing the name AA Roadwatch at the start of their broadcasts.

https://blog.hereshow.ie/2020/04/heres-how-102-aa-roadwatch-and-the-bai/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=heres-how-102-aa-roadwatch-and-the-bai

(Haven't listened to this yet, but the other podcasts he did about AA Roadwatch were interesting.)

magicbastarder

I listened to one of the previous ones and it was painful. It was the one where he doorstepped some producer, and for someone who lectures in media, showed scant regard for impartiality.

magicbastarder

Though it is quite funny listening to it on the radio in the morning these days.

tomasrojo

His one with Brigid Laffan was a bit off as well. Not that his questions were unreasonable, but they were a bit one-sided.

tomasrojo

It took three years for RTÉ to answer the question "What is AA Roadwatch?"

That's quite a while.

tomasrojo

tomasrojo wrote: »

This is probably a long-established thing I just never noticed, but you can get rear derailleurs that under minimum tension are on the big sprocket, instead of the little one:
https://bikesnobnyc.com/2020/04/09/1149/

An update on the Rapid Rise derailleur here:
https://bikesnobnyc.com/2020/04/15/low-is-the-new-normal/

Sounds pretty good actually.

One of my favourite bands from when I was a few years younger have been doing quarantine videos of their classic songs and to stay the kids flipped out hearing this would be an understatement even made me wish I still had a skateboard, there was mucho bopping to this earlier

First heard this playing the Tony Hawks games on playstation way back when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0rSYEoBMYM

magicbastarder

i think it'd be great if a cyclist tried to recreate this on a bike.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1250193633522917387

Wishbone Ash

magicbastarder wrote: »

Though it is quite funny listening to it on the radio in the morning these days.

Reminds me on the weather forecasts during 6 months of 1995. It got to the stage where the presenters were embarassed and apologetic.

daragh_

Boards Evil 2020 Virtual Ride?

There. I've said it.

wanderer 22

daragh_ wrote: »

Boards Evil 2020 Virtual Ride?

There. I've said it.

Stop that.

daragh_

colm18 wrote: »

Stop that.

We could do this 3 times

https://veloviewer.com/segment/20390815

CantGetNoSleep

I realised today that the wheels on a bike I had bought second hand were tubular (luckily I realised before I got a puncture out on a ride). Having just about to get the hang of how tubeless works, I'm not at all interested in trying to figure out tubular, and had planned on using that bike for a few very long spins so they are not really suitable.

They are Roval Rapide SL 35 - any idea what they would be worth to sell on second hand (with nice Vredestein tan walled tubulars and possibly a new cassette)?

I'm not sure of age/use, I bought the bike second hand from a shop but almost unused, the wheels could be older though as they didn't come stock on the bike. They are spinning true, braking surface looks ok too, no visible marks on them. They seem to have been on sale around 400GBP

(I'm abroad so this isn't a for sale post - although I did consider bringing that bike home pre-covid!)

tomasrojo

Nassau St. getting a contraflow cycle lane. Temporarily? Doesn't say so, so maybe not.
https://irishcycle.com/2020/04/17/covid-19-emergency-works-to-start-monday-to-make-social-distancing-space-on-dublins-streets/

eeeee

tomasrojo wrote: »

Nassau St. getting a contraflow cycle lane. Temporarily? Doesn't say so, so maybe not.
https://irishcycle.com/2020/04/17/covid-19-emergency-works-to-start-monday-to-make-social-distancing-space-on-dublins-streets/

Yes!!!!! Finally. Hopefully they make it permanent. I've wanted this for years!

Harrybelafonte

eeeee wrote: »

Yes!!!!! Finally. Hopefully they make it permanent. I've wanted this for years!

Agree. I'm crossing my fingers that a lot of changes that cyclists sought (but environmentalists in general more importantly) will be implemented as a result of these lockdowns and that they may effect a significant change in the public's mindset in this regard.

tomasrojo

At least it's suddenly obvious how big all those streets around the centre of town are. The number of people over the years who have said something like "we have narrow medieval streets, and there's no room for < anything but motorised traffic and parking>". Most of the streets are not narrow (apart from the footpaths), and, it's now obvious, many of them are actually huge.

ednwireland

tomasrojo wrote: »

At least it's suddenly obvious how big all those streets around the centre of town are. The number of people over the years who have said something like "we have narrow medieval streets, and there's no room for < anything but motorised traffic and parking>". Most of the streets are not narrow (apart from the footpaths), and, it's now obvious, many of them are actually huge.

a friend of mine collects old postcards and photos of sligo, its amazing how big streets are with no cars parked on them

Found this during a clear out earlier, has 1994 on the back so it's still good right???

Seriously, any reason it's for the bin or is it ok to use after 26 years?