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Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

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    #3242
    Syndic
    Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭Syndic


    Fiftyfilthy wrote: »
    Exactly. Point is people from all walks of life take it. The argument earlier was that social welfare people can’t afford it thus don’t take

    I think social welfare was mentioned because they were referring to people from Coolock.

    Coolock based drug dealers don't just have Coolock based customers.

    And Coolock based drug users aren't only on social welfare.


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    #3243
    u140acro3xs7dm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭u140acro3xs7dm


    Syndic wrote: »
    I think social welfare was mentioned because they were referring to people from Coolock.

    Coolock based drug dealers don't just have Coolock based customers.

    And Coolock based drug users aren't only on social welfare.
    Exactly, Dublin is supplying most of the towns within 60 - 90 mins of it. North Dublin is likely supplying the majority of Louth/Cavan/Meath etc. A huge chunk of users in these towns are commuters on decent wages.


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    #3244
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Easton Calm Permit wrote: »
    Can confirm everyone's on coke, few exceptions to the rule

    So, not everyone then?


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    #3245
    ElBastardo1
    Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭ElBastardo1


    begbysback wrote: »
    So, not everyone then?

    You will always get a group of 10 lads who are friends and 8 are on coke, and on the other hand you'll have another group of mate, again lets say 10 and 2 of them are doing coke. It depends on the circles you move in. I've never tried it and I have zero interest in it.


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    #3246
    slowdive74
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭slowdive74


    Hi level conversation this


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    #3247
    Horizontal smile
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Horizontal smile


    The days of the recession and Headshops actually had a bigger affect on gangland than the turf wars of late.

    Bags of synthetic coke for 25 were causing 100 metre long queues at 3am so much so that the dealers started attacking them and blaming the IRA.


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    #3248
    hankless
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭hankless


    Garda chopper over Cabra/Phibsboro now...


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    #3249
    Berserker5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭Berserker5


    hankless wrote: »
    Garda chopper over Cabra/Phibsboro now...

    New starbucks with helipad


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    #3250
    Johnny Sausage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    Berserker5 wrote: »
    New starbucks with helipad

    heading for Kripy Kreme to stock up


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    #3251
    NaDeise92
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭NaDeise92


    The car used to transport the killers who shot Eoin Boylan was only bought the week before. How hard is it to track down who actually bought it? And no reports of it been found burnt out either or did I get that wrong?


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    #3252
    ohnonotgmail
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    NaDeise92 wrote: »
    The car used to transport the killers who shot Eoin Boylan was only bought the week before. How hard is it to track down who actually bought it? And no reports of it been found burnt out either or did I get that wrong?

    Do you think the people who bought it gave their real name and address?


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    #3253
    NaDeise92
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭NaDeise92


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Do you think the people who bought it gave their real name and address?

    Hardly. But surely they can trace it back to someone of interest, if it was a little garage - cctv, the numbers used to call it. Something.

    Think its actually a fair question and alot more interesting than 20 people on this yesterday pointlessly telling each other if they've sniffed hoover in their life before.


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    #3254
    the.red.baron
    Registered Users Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    NaDeise92 wrote: »
    Hardly. But surely they can trace it back to someone of interest, if it was a little garage - cctv, the numbers used to call it. Something.

    Think its actually a fair question and alot more interesting than 20 people on this yesterday pointlessly telling each other if they've sniffed hoover in their life before.




    why buy a car you are going to use in a murder from a garage with a cctv camera system installed


    especially one where they are going to keep weeks of tape just in case one of the cars is used in a murder


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    #3255
    hankless
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭hankless


    I doubt they bought it from a garage. Least of all a garage with working CCTV. Most likely a cash purchase from a private sale on Donedeal.


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    #3256
    NaDeise92
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭NaDeise92


    No reports of it being found burnt out either which is strange in instances like this


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    #3257
    Berserker5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭Berserker5


    They'd have a proxy buying the car in a private sale

    Not one of the doers


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    #3258
    Tippsman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Tippsman


    NaDeise92 wrote: »
    No reports of it being found burnt out either which is strange in instances like this

    Not really, a well planned hit like this would put the car in box van to bring it out of Dublin.

    Id say it's been scrapped already outside Dublin.


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    #3259
    hankless
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭hankless


    Wouldn't it just be easier to burn it out? Destroying evidence is surely better than moving it?


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    #3260
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    hankless wrote: »
    Wouldn't it just be easier to burn it out? Destroying evidence is surely better than moving it?

    Unless you planned to use it one more time?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #3261
    The gray bird
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    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Unless you planned to use it one more time?

    That would be foolish as you would be getting linked to two crimes.


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    #3262
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    The gray bird wrote: »
    That would be foolish as you would be getting linked to two crimes.

    You'd be linked to none if you weren't caught.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #3263
    Eircom_Sucks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Eircom_Sucks


    The gray bird wrote: »
    That would be foolish as you would be getting linked to two crimes.

    doesn't matter here

    garda don't know their rear from their elbows

    and when its burnted out they find nothing


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    #3264
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Not entirely true. When a car was burnt out couple of weeks back in Lucan some great detective work actually found a smouldering Wayne Whelan being cremated pre-funeral. These cops knew what to look for.


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    #3265
    Tippsman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Tippsman


    Burning isn't the best course as was evident by the Barr murder

    "Cumberton's DNA was found on a baseball cap and a rubber Freddie Krueger mask used in the murder that were found in a partially burned-out getaway car."

    Also the car is still idenifble threw the VIN if completely burnt.

    They think 2 people were involved in boylan hit, traspassed on a property (presume behind his house) and shot hit 9 times.


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    #3266
    Alliance123
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Alliance123


    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    Not entirely true. When a car was burnt out couple of weeks back in Lucan some great detective work actually found a smouldering Wayne Whelan being cremated pre-funeral. These cops knew what to look for.

    Lol cops hadn't a clue until they were told by the neighbours who was in it


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    #3267
    JMMCapital
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭JMMCapital


    Fiftyfilthy wrote: »
    Exactly. Point is people from all walks of life take it. The argument earlier was that social welfare people can’t afford it thus don’t take

    the people on social welfare are drug dealing as well what do you expect? most of them can cover there addictions that way.


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    #3268
    ohnonotgmail
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    Alliance123 wrote: »
    Lol cops hadn't a clue until they were told by the neighbours who was in it

    his own mother probably wouldn't have recognised him.


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    #3269
    NaDeise92
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭NaDeise92


    Some of the intimidation tactics used in the year before boylan's death was nuts. When you think he was only 22.
    Going after him with kitchen knives slicing him wearing freddie kruger masks days after Christmas, him catching lads attempting to light pipe bombs outside his family home, shots at the house in the weeks before his death caught on his cctv.

    You'd wonder if he was such a high profile dealer in coolock like the papers say making a nice wage why he'd continue to stay in his house where those previous instances occurred and why he wouldn't of moved out of the area to an apartment or something. He'd been receiving death threats for over a year.


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    #3270
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Freddie Kreuger masks attacking Boylan.? Didn't someone say Cumberton wore a Freddy mask when disposing of barman Barr? My detective mind is working overdrive. Freddy Kreuger is masking one or more Dublin hitmen. Nightmare for the Old Bill.


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    #3271
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,556 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    NaDeise92 wrote: »
    Some of the intimidation tactics used in the year before boylan's death was nuts. When you think he was only 22.
    Going after him with kitchen knives slicing him wearing freddie kruger masks days after Christmas, him catching lads attempting to light pipe bombs outside his family home, shots at the house in the weeks before his death caught on his cctv.

    You'd wonder if he was such a high profile dealer in coolock like the papers say making a nice wage why he'd continue to stay in his house where those previous instances occurred and why he wouldn't of moved out of the area to an apartment or something. He'd been receiving death threats for over a year.



    I'd imagine fear of being alone, he was only 22 , the lad probably thought with his family around him he was safer than living in a flat or apartment on his own,

    Its a small enough area word travels quick if one person knows where you live people can find out ,




    I'd imagine its easier to get to someone who lives in an apartment, Housing estates neighbours tend to watch out more and notice if people or car's are hanging around in apartment blocks you don't even know your neighbour let alone notice car's or lads hanging about,
    Going to your car in the car park would be ideal spot for someone to wait for you in the dark ,


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