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Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

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    #3212
    2thousand14
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    Any word on the shooting in north strand this morning? Mustn’t be gang related


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    #3213
    Augme
    Registered Users Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭Augme


    Is €1k per week profit really that bad? 99% of lads who grow up in that environment would never make even close to that kind of money by legitimately. I'd have thought 1k per week would be pretty solid.


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    #3214
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Augme wrote: »
    Is €1k per week profit really that bad? 99% of lads who grow up in that environment would never make even close to that kind of money by legitimately. I'd have thought 1k per week would be pretty solid.

    A qualified plumber or electrician wouldn't be making far off it.


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    #3215
    Augme
    Registered Users Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭Augme


    pablo128 wrote: »
    A qualified plumber or electrician wouldn't be making far off it.

    1k per week after tax for a plumber or electrician? ****, I'm in the wrong line of work.


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    #3216
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Augme wrote: »
    1k per week after tax for a plumber or electrician? ****, I'm in the wrong line of work.

    I didn't say a k a week after tax. I said not far off it.


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    #3217
    BDI
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    Augme wrote: »
    1k per week after tax for a plumber or electrician? ****, I'm in the wrong line of work.

    You know there is 4 years training then constant upskilling. You don’t just get 1 bag of plumbing’s, chop it into ten then sell them individually for twice what you paid.


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    #3218
    1mackattack!
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭1mackattack!


    BDI wrote: »
    You know there is 4 years training then constant upskilling. You don’t just get 1 bag of plumbing’s, chop it into ten then sell them individually for twice what you paid.
    My question is if there are so many dealers in Coolock there must be some amount of users where do they get the money?


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    #3219
    The gray bird
    Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭The gray bird


    1mackattack! wrote: »
    My question is if there are so many dealers in Coolock there must be some amount of users where do they get the money?

    They work like everyone else.


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    #3220
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,284 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Augme wrote: »
    Is €1k per week profit really that bad? 99% of lads who grow up in that environment would never make even close to that kind of money by legitimately. I'd have thought 1k per week would be pretty solid.
    1K a week with a much reduced life expectancy, most of which they spend looking over their shoulders. No thanks. There is a book called Freakanomics with a chapter on the financial aspect of low level drug dealers in LA. most of them barely make minimum wage.


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    #3221
    Eircom_Sucks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Eircom_Sucks


    1mackattack! wrote: »
    My question is if there are so many dealers in Coolock there must be some amount of users where do they get the money?

    social welfare id say

    ironic that the government is funding their habit


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    #3222
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    People still believe its only people on welfare and from working class areas sniffing coke haha


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    #3223
    Tippsman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Tippsman


    Eircom_Sucks wrote: »
    social welfare id say

    ironic that the government is funding their habit

    You're wrong!
    You think everyone on the social spends it on ****e coke, when anyone on the social can just about cover food and rent.


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    #3224
    utyh2ikcq9z76b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭utyh2ikcq9z76b


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    1K a week with a much reduced life expectancy, most of which they spend looking over their shoulders. No thanks. There is a book called Freakanomics with a chapter on the financial aspect of low level drug dealers in LA. most of them barely make minimum wage.

    I would say dealing in US is a bit different as it's really gang controlled, Ireland has gangs at the top but a lot of the lower levels are independent dealers, you can stay below the radar in Ireland without getting involved in the gang stuff and make a lot of €€€€€


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    #3225
    Fattybojangles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles


    Eircom_Sucks wrote: »
    social welfare id say

    ironic that the government is funding their habit

    Oh yeah you'll get far on the white alright with 200 quid a week dole ffs


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    #3226
    The gray bird
    Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭The gray bird


    Eircom_Sucks wrote: »
    social welfare id say

    ironic that the government is funding their habit

    So everyone on social welfare in coolock only does coke ?? Dont be daft mate


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    #3227
    Berserker5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭Berserker5


    A couple of lads.I got to know were buying and using some and selling the rest

    Trouble seemed to be when they end up using the lot and can't pay back


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    #3228
    Eircom_Sucks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Eircom_Sucks


    The gray bird wrote: »
    So everyone on social welfare in coolock only does coke ?? Dont be daft mate

    never said all

    i personally know 7 lads on sw and live with parents and always zonked out on drugs , these are lads in late 30's too

    also know 2 solicitors who are on the bag every week so no its not only sw lads , but a huge chunk of them are


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    #3229
    Ash.J.Williams
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    everyone is on coke


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    #3230
    Eircom_Sucks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Eircom_Sucks


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    everyone is on coke

    speak for yourself


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    #3231
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    everyone is on coke

    Never tried it


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    #3232
    Horizontal smile
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭Horizontal smile


    OK a few things need to be addressed. Not only is everyone and i mean EVERYONE on cocaine, maybe you aren't mate but i first realised around 2004 how bad the cocaine epidemic was in Ireland and if im honest very few people on social welfare were using it. then it fueled the crumlin drimnagh feud. When the recession hit and nobody had the money for it turf wars genuinely werent as bad. Now the country has money again the lads are back blowing the heads of each other.

    Cocaine was never a social welfare thing, it is across the board and has been for about 20 years now.


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    #3233
    The Mig
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    Never had a dabble myself either


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    #3234
    Fiftyfilthy
    Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Fiftyfilthy


    Horizontal smile wrote: »
    OK a few things need to be addressed. Not only is everyone and i mean EVERYONE on cocaine, maybe you aren't mate but i first realised around 2004 how bad the cocaine epidemic was in Ireland and if im honest very few people on social welfare were using it. then it fueled the crumlin drimnagh feud. When the recession hit and nobody had the money for it turf wars genuinely werent as bad. Now the country has money again the lads are back blowing the heads of each other.

    Cocaine was never a social welfare thing, it is across the board and has been for about 20 years now.


    Around 2004 all the hardcore coke heads were injecting it , was living in a flats complex that time and saw it first hand and they were all social welfare recipients

    Agreed coke reaches everyone from all walks of society but despite what the journalists claim, social welfare people were using from day one

    Their dole would be all spent within an hour of receiving it . Then selling their body, shop lifting and other crimes for it

    It’s a scummy drug and as bad if not worse than heroin


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    #3235
    lcasey90
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭lcasey90


    Fiftyfilthy wrote: »
    Around 2004 all the hardcore coke heads were injecting it , was living in a flats complex that time and saw it first hand and they were all social welfare recipients

    Agreed coke reaches everyone from all walks of society but despite what the journalists claim, social welfare people were using from day one

    Their dole would be all spent within an hour of receiving it . Then selling their body, shop lifting and other crimes for it

    It’s a scummy drug and as bad if not worse than heroin

    Dole heads where I'm from are all on pills **** all would do coke cause its too expensive. Main people on coke are workers who have some bags at the weekend. No one in my town sell coke during week it's all weekend


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    #3236
    hankless
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭hankless


    I know there one and the same thing, but are yous referring to Crack cocaine?


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    #3237
    utyh2ikcq9z76b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭utyh2ikcq9z76b


    Can confirm everyone's on coke, few exceptions to the rule


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    #3238
    u140acro3xs7dm
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    Coke is everywhere, there are school kids doing it, right up to people in their 50s and even some I know that are older. It covers all occupations and social classes too, I know teachers, accountants, solicitors, and construction workers that are on it every week.


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    #3239
    Fiftyfilthy
    Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Fiftyfilthy


    hankless wrote: »
    I know there one and the same thing, but are yous referring to Crack cocaine?


    Both, in 2004 crack wasn’t common at all. Mainly used by prostitutes and sold by the Africans

    Few years later sold by Irish and more smoking it


    As I said, the junkies would inject coke, others snort it


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    #3240
    IRE60
    Registered Users Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭IRE60


    Saw five fellas being asked to leave a bar off Grafton St at the weekend. They’d been in for an hour or so before the request but had been doing lines in the jax as were grassed up by another patron because they were becoming increasingly aggressive.
    One thing was for sure – they were not in receipt of social welfare as far as I could see!


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    #3241
    Fiftyfilthy
    Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Fiftyfilthy


    IRE60 wrote: »
    Saw five fellas being asked to leave a bar off Grafton St at the weekend. They’d been in for an hour or so before the request but had been doing lines in the jax as were grassed up by another patron because they were becoming increasingly aggressive.
    One thing was for sure – they were not in receipt of social welfare as far as I could see!

    Exactly. Point is people from all walks of life take it. The argument earlier was that social welfare people can’t afford it thus don’t take


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