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Are Jay-Z, Beyonce and Rihanna devil worshippers??

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    DeBunny wrote: »
    If you're interested in all this CT stuff you should watch the esoteric agenda on youtube. Pay special attention to the last three videos. In fact skip the other 10 and go straight to 04:05 in video 11.

    I used to worry my self and get anxious about CTs until I watched this. If there really is a conspiracy then you are letting ''them'' win by letting it affect you and worry you. The only way to ''fight'' is to live your life in peace and love. If you fear and hate evil then you are only hurting yourself.
    Alex Jones and the like empower the very people they're trying to destroy by creating fear and hatred.

    The fact is you can't have good with out evil, light with out dark, hot with out cold, yes with out no, 1 with out 0, yin with out yang. If there was nothing but good in the world how would you know what good was with out having evil to compare it to? How stupid and boring would Batman be if he didn't have the evil Joker to fight. If there was one ultimate sports team that could never be beaten that sport would cease to exist. Even Brazil looses, even the All Blacks loose.

    The ''battle'' between good and evil will never be won, but will go on for eternity. It is merely shifting patterns of negative and positive, on and off, love and hate, yes and no, yin and yang, 1 and 0.

    A storm is a conflict between a cold front and a warm front. We don't see weather men blaming the evil warm front for attacking the good cold front.

    War is evil, how ever, far more lives have been saved by wartime medical developments (triage, surgery, etc) compared to the amount of lives war has taken. Therefore war is good.
    Medicine is good, how ever, how many murderers, rapists and jedwards has medicine saved? Millions. Therefore medicine is evil

    Don't let the fear of evil take something you love away from you. If Rihanna is ''Evil'' then she is doing the side of ''Goodness'' a favour by giving goodness something to fight against, therefore Rihanna is good.

    The ''battle'' between good and evil is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it like you would a film or else you'll drive your self and those around you crazy with conspiratorial rants. I've been there and done that. Now I focus on taking care of myself and the people I love and I enjoy life.

    Learn to be comfortable with contradiction. Evil is Good, Good is Evil

    If you want to get more into what I've been talking about I would recommend Allan Watts.

    You are completely wrong, first of all you say you used to believe "conspiracy theories" but they wouldnt be "theories" if you believed them.Alex Jones doesnt spread fear and hatred, he exposes criminality and government underhandedness, giving people a real understanding of whats going on.And how are you letting "them" win by awakening yourself to their evil agendas, doing nothing and hoping things will work themselves out isnt going to get you very far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,428 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    I'm sure they do worship the devil.
    I say let them.
    I don't believe in any of the crap and couldn't care less if those moron's do.
    People say Led Zeppelin were into the occult and communicated that throught their music, at least their music was worth listening to. I love Led Zep but couldn't give two fvcks about the devil and Alistair Crowleys big book of gay demons, I can draw the line. Let J zed and his stupid wife worship the devil and put their stupid little masonic gang signs into their videos. The people smart enough to be worth saving from the New World Order and it's evils aren't paying a blind bit of attention to them anyway, so fvck 'em.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    nullzero wrote: »
    I'm sure they do worship the devil.
    I say let them.
    I don't believe in any of the crap and couldn't care less if those moron's do.
    People say Led Zeppelin were into the occult and communicated that throught their music, at least their music was worth listening to. I love Led Zep but couldn't give two fvcks about the devil and Alistair Crowleys big book of gay demons, I can draw the line. Let J zed and his stupid wife worship the devil and put their stupid little masonic gang signs into their videos. The people smart enough to be worth saving from the New World Order and it's evils aren't paying a blind bit of attention to them anyway, so fvck 'em.

    I read a book about Aleister Crowley. Despite the notoriety he was quite interesting - he was a mountaineer as well as everything else. He actually came from a fundamentalist Protestant background in Ireland. If he hadn't been into the occult he might have conquered Everest, in those days that would have been no mean feat.

    Does anyone know that the song "Stairway to Heaven" was allegedly a prayer to the devil? I think a lot of the fuss about devil worship in the music business is media manipulation - it's like kids hanging out with the heavy gang so as to appear tough and get street cred. As for Beyonce - she should put a sock in it and not be telling people to put a ring on it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2




    Stairway to heaven?????

    AGAIN
    http://www.guzer.com/animations/stairway.php

    It's quite widespread, and these people truly do believe in a supernatural dark power, it's the unknown controllers who are the real dark forces, many hang in high circles and don't like to be talked about, filth!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,428 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Emme wrote: »
    I read a book about Aleister Crowley and he was a mountaineer as well as everything else. If he hadn't been into the occult he might have conquered Everest, in those days that would have been no mean feat.

    Does anyone know that the song "Stairway to Heaven" was allegedly a prayer to the devil? I think a lot of it is media manipulation. I don't know what exactly Jay Zee does and I don't care and Beyonce should put a sock in it and not be telling people to put a ring on it!

    Seemingly when played backwards it contains the message "My sweet Satan" or some bullsh1t like that. Here's a wiki link about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stairway_to_Heaven#Allegation_of_backward_masking

    To me it's a good song that probably a bit longer than it needed to be but it was the 70's after all so it can be forgiven it's excesses.

    Alaister Crowley was quite a fascinating character, if a bit of a mad man. I heard he started a ritual to summon a demon near Loch Ness, seemingly the ritual had to be performed over a number of days/weeks. He got bored and only did half of it, what a guy. He probably realised it was BS and decided to go for a pint instead. I also heard he had a disciple, a man called L Ron Hubbard, who later became the founder of the celeb friendly psuedo religion the Church of Scientology. He's a man with quite a lot of mystery surrounding him, some people believe he was the father of Barbara Bush, Geroge H W's wife and mother of Dubya. Who know's it could all be true.
    I heard about his mountanineering espcapades, although he strikes me as being someone who started a lot of things without ever seeing them through to their conclusion. He was also purportedly a secret service agent during World War 2. I doubt he was ever bored.

    Glazers Out!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Torakx wrote: »
    The brain after all can only conciously cope with 7 things at a time iirc.

    Great post overall, and very true, there is subliminal communication going on, I notice it all around, every kids show and toy is covered in pentagrams/stars,
    Wiki"Pentagrams were used symbolically in ancient Greece and Babylonia, and are used today as a symbol of faith by many Wiccans, akin to the use of the cross by Christians and the Star of David by Jews. The pentagram has magical associations, and many people who practice Neopagan faiths wear jewelry incorporating the symbol. Christians once more commonly used the pentagram to represent the five wounds of Jesus,[1][2] and it also has associations within Freemasonry.[3]".


    I've noticed a change in childrens behaviour and whats cool, satanic horned hand means cool, americanised hannah montanna girls, it's there to creep into your subconscience, without your conscience noticing.

    But getting back on track, what I quoted from you about the brain only coping with 7 things at once, I immediately thought of 8 track recorders used in the past, maybe somebody slipped in the 8th track for subliminal purposes??, just a thought!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Good point about the toys and behaviour i do notice that too more every few years.

    Also an interesting point you made on the 8-track ive never thought about that.
    Il have to look into 8 tracks and if i find anything good il make a new thread maybe related to that :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    First of all.....it's she!:P

    Second...I'm not fearful, I'm curious....there's a difference! I don't believe myself to be easily influenced by it. We're all influenced constantly by advertising anyway and are for the most part completely oblivious to that. I studied Marketing and the evidence of that is clear. In fact it would be difficult to determine what society would be like now without all these subliminal influences via marketing and music. We're all puppets unfortunately.

    Thirdly, it's not my intention to promote Jay-Z by talking about it. Would you have preferred me to keep quiet, not question what I'd heard and continued oblivious and in doing so had avoided promoting Jay-Z??

    Woops. My bad. Apologies. Also when you said that you where depressed that something you loved turned out to be evil I mistook this to have an element of fear. Again, apologies.
    And if I have been impolite it is because I find it frustrating to be labeled as a devil worshiper and satanist when the recurring theme of my posts was peace and love. In fact Bob Marley was probably the first person to introduce me to this way of thinking.
    Just so you all know, all of the beliefs I have been talking about are based in science, mainly quantum physics and eastern Zen philosophy. The two over lap quite beautifully. For more check out Allan Watts and the last three videos of the esoteric agenda
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEHZcKdb3Bc&feature=PlayList&p=A25BA2CBB1EA4DC1&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23/ It gets really interesting from 04.08

    As for Rihanna, Jay Z, etc the power of the symbols they use is held in the belief that they have power. Sports psychologists use this tactic all the time. I think was the Armagh GAA team who's sports psycologist hypnotized the team into believing that a certain symbol gave them power then had the symbol sewed onto their jersey.
    The use of symbology is a common tactic and based in science. If you believe a drawing of an upside down star has power then it does. Lucky charms etc have the same effect.

    As for promoting Jay Z by talking about him, whether this is our intention or not it's exactly what we are doing. To use Led Zep as an example, the best thing to happen to their career was preachers ranting and raving about them in their churchs. They would not have broken America if not for the help of their detractors. For thousands of young people, their first introduction to rock music was in the church. I could be wrong but I believe this included Marilyn Manson. Another example is, people on this thread who disagree with me, quoting my entire post then writing one paragraph. This only serves to spread my message and proves my point.

    The reason many of these symbols are seen as satanic is because the people who originally used them were mathematicians and alchemists. The symbols did give them power because it allowed them to work out complex formulas, etc. Various churches down through the ages were frightened by this power and so demonised these people by saying that the symbols they used where signs of the devil. Common fear tactics.

    Jay Z's PR people saw what happened to Led Zep and are now capitalizing on this fear by using the symbols. The real conspiracy is that, paranoid conspiracy theorists are being used as a powerful PR tool.

    Just out of curiosity miss D&B, have you decided on whether or not you'll go to the Rihanna concert? I say go and enjoy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    uprising2 wrote: »
    But getting back on track, what I quoted from you about the brain only coping with 7 things at once, I immediately thought of 8 track recorders used in the past, maybe somebody slipped in the 8th track for subliminal purposes??, just a thought!

    The 8-tracks used to play music or to record music? I mean either way you're probably hearing it in either stereo or mono, so it doesn't really matter. ( I might be able to go a bit more into the technical details if you like) And many more tracks can be used to record music now, so what are they all for?

    It's not like listening to 7 tracks of music is taking up your whole concious mind, you can still eat and talk and perform complex motor functions while the radio is on!


    EDIT: Great post, DeBunny, do you have any links on the thing about the Armagh GAA team?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    DeBunny wrote: »
    The reason many of these symbols are seen as satanic is because the people who originally used them were mathematicians and alchemists. The symbols did give them power because it allowed them to work out complex formulas, etc. Various churches down through the ages were frightened by this power and so demonised these people by saying that the symbols they used where signs of the devil. Common fear tactics.

    Consider that most people in those days were illiterate so the skills of mathematicians and alchemists would have appeared almost supernatural. Alchemists were only doing stuff that you'd do in first year science now, but people thought that the world was flat back then and most hadn't travelled beyond their village of birth. The church, who wanted to control the masses (haven't I heard this thing about controlling the masses before :rolleyes:) probably fed into that to frighten the people.

    If you look at old churches you will see symbols everywhere - stars, equal armed crosses, five petalled roses (a sort of pentagram) and triangles with circles in the middle (the all seeing eye). This stuff isn't new. It's been going on for hundreds of years if not longer and it will be still going on when we're no longer here, and people will still be accusing some random group of worshipping the devil.

    Carl Jung might say that those symbols are part of humanity's collective unconscious, ie they appear in some form in all civilisations throughout the world, and that's why they are so powerful. It's nowt to do with the devil!

    I don't doubt the existence of symbolism in mass media, but if it shifts plastic toys and fattens up the bottom line multinationals will continue to do what they're doing. All we have to do is stop buying the rubbish they're trying to sell us. Don't sit in and watch MTV - go out for a walk and don't expose yourself to this rubbish! People have choice and free will, it's very important to remember that and exercise it to your advantage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    Fraid not. I remember hearing it on the news a couple of years ago. I seem to remember it didn't work because of typical GAA skepticism. ''jayses, that's a load a' shoite'' Plus the other teams were ripping the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    Emme wrote: »
    Consider that most people in those days were illiterate so the skills of mathematicians and alchemists would have appeared almost supernatural. Alchemists were only doing stuff that you'd do in first year science now, but people thought that the world was flat back then and most hadn't travelled beyond their village of birth. The church, who wanted to control the masses (haven't I heard this thing about controlling the masses before :rolleyes:) probably fed into that to frighten the people.

    Well that's actually not true, most people would have known that the world was round, from the mid 1st millenium onwards I think. And I don't think that the church's motivations were solely to do with scaring people into submission- I think a lot of the time they genuinely equated science with evil. So they were malicious and ignorant, rather than just malicious. (On this note, The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco is well worth a read)
    Emme wrote: »
    If you look at old churches you will see symbols everywhere - stars, equal armed crosses, five petalled roses (a sort of pentagram) and triangles with circles in the middle (the all seeing eye). This stuff isn't new. It's been going on for hundreds of years if not longer and it will be still going on when we're no longer here, and people will still be accusing some random group of worshipping the devil.

    Carl Jung might say that those symbols are part of humanity's collective unconscious, ie they appear in some form in all civilisations throughout the world, and that's why they are so powerful. It's nowt to do with the devil!

    Aye, but the Collective Unconscious is a bit pseudo-scientific for my liking. I think most cultures have encountered geometry at some point, and it's pretty easy to make a handful of shapes with geometric signifigance with rudimentary knowledge, and it will often be associated with priesthood because in primitive cultures priests were often the only people to get formal education. Then in Christian Europe, the knowledge of older religions and other cultures was equated with witchcraft and devil worship.

    You're right though, these only have signifigance that we give to them, they've got nothing to do with the devil or magic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Ive been reading into Carl Jung myself.He is one of my favorites.
    On top of studying a collective conciousness he also studied mandalas and alchemy.

    Its hard to accept but when i watch other programs like one i saw on water showing that it can hold memories and change its consistency with thought(i didnt say i believed it) or the story i heard about the 100th monkey,where a study was done on a certain type of monkey on an island.They thought a monkey a new skill and when the population of monkeys on the island reached 100 they all suposedly knew this new skill.
    Anyway hearing about experiments like that even though i dont remember if they are even verifyable makes me think it just might be possible to have a collective conciousness.

    If thats so then the symbols these idiots are playing with might actually have an effect if they were used in the past on so many people.
    Its interesting too that the pentagram i think is the shape that naturally occurs on the poles of one of the planets,cant remember which one.Due to the tone or frequency of the vibrations.The same effect can be created with a sheet of paper on a speaker and the right tone/s as far as i know.

    I guess it doesnt really matter if jay-z and his girls are satan worshippers.
    I think the only thing that matters for our future is the kids today exposed to this stuff...IF it is actually causing alot of the troubles now.
    I believe TV is the main culprit.That is what it was invented for.Creating the future :)
    Funny was only 2 years ago i first thought about the word television sounds like tell a vision(vision meaning prediction of the future?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    Torakx wrote: »
    Ive been reading into Carl Jung myself.He is one of my favorites.
    On top of studying a collective conciousness he also studied mandalas and alchemy.

    Its hard to accept but when i watch other programs like one i saw on water showing that it can hold memories and change its consistency with thought(i didnt say i believed it) or the story i heard about the 100th monkey,where a study was done on a certain type of monkey on an island.They thought a monkey a new skill and when the population of monkeys on the island reached 100 they all suposedly knew this new skill.
    Anyway hearing about experiments like that even though i dont remember if they are even verifyable makes me think it just might be possible to have a collective conciousness.

    If thats so then the symbols these idiots are playing with might actually have an effect if they were used in the past on so many people.
    Its interesting too that the pentagram i think is the shape that naturally occurs on the poles of one of the planets,cant remember which one.Due to the tone or frequency of the vibrations.The same effect can be created with a sheet of paper on a speaker and the right tone/s as far as i know.

    I guess it doesnt really matter if jay-z and his girls are satan worshippers.
    I think the only thing that matters for our future is the kids today exposed to this stuff...IF it is actually causing alot of the troubles now.
    I believe TV is the main culprit.That is what it was invented for.Creating the future :)
    Funny was only 2 years ago i first thought about the word television sounds like tell a vision(vision meaning prediction of the future?)

    Couple of corrections. The thing about the 100th monkey experiment was that monkeys on an island spontaneously learned a skill that monkeys on different island knew. This has been discredited http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100th_monkey_effect

    Its a hexagon on the pole of Saturn.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzL194jiTyY
    Genuinely weird, six sided shape on the sixth planet out, SATurday is named after SATurn and is sixth day of the week. SATan's number is six. It goes on. Hexagrams are found through out nature. Honey combs and the giants causeway are two examples. Geometry can be very powerful which is why satanists use it. It does not belong to satanists.

    And Vision means to see something/ anything, not just the future. Blurred vision, etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    DeBunny wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity miss D&B, have you decided on whether or not you'll go to the Rihanna concert? I say go and enjoy it.

    As I already said, I'm more curious than fearful so yeah I'm going....let's just call it research!;) I'll take pictures of the performances and inform you of any suspicious behaviour....:P If you want to see the pictures I'll post them. Don't worry about me, I'll bring my crucifix!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    As I already said, I'm more curious than fearful so yeah I'm going....let's just call it research!;) I'll take pictures of the performances and inform you of any suspicious behaviour....:P If you want to see the pictures I'll post them. Don't worry about me, I'll bring my crucifix!

    I hope you have a good shot/aim, and give her the one eye she so desires:D,
    and yea seen as you'll know what to look out for, get a few pics of her little symbol's on show.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    uprising2 wrote: »
    I hope you have a good shot/aim, and give her the one eye she so desires:D.

    I'm not sure Jesus would appreciate being used as an instrument of violence but having never met him I really can't be sure.....:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    I'm not sure Jesus would appreciate being used as an instrument of violence but having never met him I really can't be sure.....:D
    Well let me reassure you then'
    quote from the net:
    Is it God's plan for the Believer to be in direct confrontation and conflict with the Devil? If we are called to do the work of Christ, then the answer is yes. Jesus was all about battling the Devil and driving out demons and He clearly tells us repeatedly to do the same. Because of Christ and His victory, we can go boldly into battle. Let's roll...
    The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. - 1 John 3:8



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Well let me reassure you then'
    quote from the net:
    Is it God's plan for the Believer to be in direct confrontation and conflict with the Devil? If we are called to do the work of Christ, then the answer is yes. Jesus was all about battling the Devil and driving out demons and He clearly tells us repeatedly to do the same. Because of Christ and His victory, we can go boldly into battle. Let's roll...
    The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. - 1 John 3:8




    Consider me reassured.....all the same, to avoid the potential legal consequences I probably won't be stabbing anyone in the eye.:)

    But I will provide you with the photographic evidence and allow you to interpret.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Consider me reassured.....all the same, to avoid the potential legal consequences I probably won't be stabbing anyone in the eye.:)

    But I will provide you with the photographic evidence and allow you to interpret.

    Ahh I'm only joking, I wouldn't want you getting into trouble, anyway it's not the legal consequences I'd be worried about, it's 1000's of wild teenagers with false nails coming for YOUR eye's...:eek:.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Ahh I'm only joking, I wouldn't want you getting into trouble, anyway it's not the legal consequences I'd be worried about, it's 1000's of wild teenagers with false nails coming for YOUR eye's...:eek:.

    Glad to hear you're joking....wasn't sure there for a minute:D
    I'm going to see Lady GaGa in 2 weeks, anything you want me to do to her?:D
    Those pictures should be good.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Glad to hear you're joking....wasn't sure there for a minute:D
    I'm going to see Lady GaGa in 2 weeks, anything you want me to do to her?:D
    Those pictures should be good.....

    Last time i saw Lady Gaga on a video doing a live show she had a signal tapping her dance partners leg and they both did a rehearsed pose with a couple of meaningful gestures :)

    so look out for that signal to take the picture ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    Torakx wrote: »
    Last time i saw Lady Gaga on a video doing a live show she had a signal tapping her dance partners leg and they both did a rehearsed pose with a couple of meaningful gestures :)

    so look out for that signal to take the picture ;)

    I'll be on the lookout so. If in two weeks time I'm taking a different stance on all these issues you'll know what happened to me......;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Glad to hear you're joking....wasn't sure there for a minute:D
    I'm going to see Lady GaGa in 2 weeks, anything you want me to do to her?:D
    Those pictures should be good.....

    Ahh now Dully, don't take me so serious, do you really think I'd share my FANATICAL belief's here? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Ahh now Dully, don't take me so serious, do you really think I'd share my FANATICAL belief's here? :D

    Interesting response Uprising2....I bet life is never dull or boring with you around:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Interesting response Uprising2....I bet life is never dull or boring with you around:D

    You can call me Uprising, the 2 only came into it in January after the hack, I'm getting old now 35:(, so life isn't as crazy as it once was for me, but my mind is still as crazy as ever, people who know me think of me as unique:D, I've lived a full life already, done more than most people I know, and best of all I did it all my way, I never bowed to the system, looked up to nor down on anybody, enough waffle.
    I'd like to tell you to enjoy rihanna and gaga, but fukk them, they go against my inbuilt grain.

    Ohh and another thing, slightly back on topic, this devil worshipping isn't confined to singers, you'll find almost every govt in the world is full of freemason's/occultist's including our own:eek:, but fukk them too, I look forward to their eventual destruction, their day will come!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    uprising2 wrote: »
    You can call me Uprising, the 2 only came into it in January after the hack, I'm getting old now 35:(, so life isn't as crazy as it once was for me, but my mind is still as crazy as ever, people who know me think of me as unique:D, I've lived a full life already, done more than most people I know, and best of all I did it all my way, I never bowed to the system, looked up to nor down on anybody, enough waffle.
    I'd like to tell you to enjoy rihanna and gaga, but fukk them, they go against my inbuilt grain.

    Ohh and another thing, slightly back on topic, this devil worshipping isn't confined to singers, you'll find almost every govt in the world is full of freemason's/occultist's including our own:eek:, but fukk them too, I look forward to their eventual destruction, their day will come!

    Well now that does sound like an interesting life. I've been called unique myself a few times.:)I think it may be a delicate way of putting crazy. However, crazy is a term thrown around very quickly and usually applied to any individual who attempts to deviate from the conventional. Having said that, if deviation is what I need in my pursuit of knowledge then let anyone feel free to call me crazy.

    Thank you for your input and don't worry it'll take alot more than a few concerts to corrupt me.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 paulplonk


    Sex, drugs and rock n' roll its all part of the game. It is also evil according to my Catholic upbringing.

    Bob was killed because of drugs and if it was the CIA it was because he made smoking cannabis look cool to millions of American teens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    paulplonk wrote: »
    Sex, drugs and rock n' roll its all part of the game. It is also evil according to my Catholic upbringing.

    Bob was killed because of drugs and if it was the CIA it was because he made smoking cannabis look cool to millions of American teens.

    :confused::confused::confused:

    Are you on drugs now?,medication?, this planet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    Seen as your having a late night too Uprising, any idea why beyonce performs Ave Maria at her concerts?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Seen as your having a late night too Uprising, any idea why beyonce performs Ave Maria at her concerts?

    I haven't the foggiest to be honest?, but I'm a bit of a sherlock holmes, I'll try find out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Uprising wrote:
    You can call me Uprising, the 2 only came into it in January after the hack, I'm getting old now 35, so life isn't as crazy as it once was for me, but my mind is still as crazy as ever, people who know me think of me as unique, I've lived a full life already, done more than most people I know, and best of all I did it all my way, I never bowed to the system, looked up to nor down on anybody, enough waffle.
    I'd like to tell you to enjoy rihanna and gaga, but fukk them, they go against my inbuilt grain.

    Ohh and another thing, slightly back on topic, this devil worshipping isn't confined to singers, you'll find almost every govt in the world is full of freemason's/occultist's including our own, but fukk them too, I look forward to their eventual destruction, their day will come!

    For some Reason I thought of this Version of this song wen I read that:D:D:D



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    For some Reason I thought of this Version of this song wen I read that:D:D:D



    Haha, thanks, your not too far wrong, that made my mush smile, I'll remember I owe you one, ye bolllix:pac::pac::pac:, ohh fukk its 6:40 and my insomniac brain still wants to keep on running, I better go to bed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Seen as your having a late night too Uprising, any idea why beyonce performs Ave Maria at her concerts?


    :(:( tis not actually the Latin Ave Maria, which would be reallly cool, she probably just needed something catchy for the chorus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Well let me reassure you then'
    quote from the net:
    Is it God's plan for the Believer to be in direct confrontation and conflict with the Devil? If we are called to do the work of Christ, then the answer is yes. Jesus was all about battling the Devil and driving out demons and He clearly tells us repeatedly to do the same. Because of Christ and His victory, we can go boldly into battle. Let's roll...
    The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. - 1 John 3:8

    This sounds a lot like the Westboro Baptist Church's interpretation of the bible.

    The only way to destroy evil is with love, darkness with light and so on. Fire men don't use flame throwers to combat fire. Hatred will harm you more than that which you are trying to destroy.

    Did any one watch the last three vidoes of ''the esoteric agenda''? If so what did you think?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    DeBunny wrote: »
    This sounds a lot like the Westboro Baptist Church's interpretation of the bible.

    The only way to destroy evil is with love, darkness with light and so on. Fire men don't use flame throwers to combat fire. Hatred will harm you more than that which you are trying to destroy.
    v

    How can you destroy evil with love if love is evil and darkness is light etc?
    DeBunny wrote: »
    Did any one watch the last three vidoes of ''the esoteric agenda''? If so what did you think?

    I watched 11 and half of 12. My interpretation is that it is theosophy repackaged based in masonic rites and luciferianism. But what do I kow?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    v

    How can you destroy evil with love if love is evil and darkness is light etc?

    I watched 11 and half of 12. My interpretation is that it is theosophy repackaged based in masonic rites and luciferianism. But what do I kow?

    One becomes the other.

    It also evident that theosophy, masonic rights, Luciferianism, etc are based in the science that is discussed in these videos. Not the other way around. I would recommend watching the other half.

    The fact that the Universe is an illusion and made of nothing but information and energy is the ''dark secret'' that masons etc hide. They mask it with bullsh*t symbols and rituals as a distraction. It works extremely well.

    Zen philosophy would be the purest belief system based on this way of thinking. There is no concealment or elitism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    DeBunny wrote: »
    One becomes the other.

    It also evident that theosophy, masonic rights, Luciferianism, etc are based in the science that is discussed in these videos. Not the other way around. I would recommend watching the other half.

    The fact that the Universe is an illusion and made of nothing but information and energy is the ''dark secret'' that masons etc hide. They mask it with bullsh*t symbols and rituals as a distraction. It works extremely well.

    Zen philosophy would be the purest belief system based on this way of thinking. There is no concealment or elitism.

    HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Hey that really worked, all the evil is good now.
    Amazing what a little humming can achieve.
    Your entitled to believe in buddah, but it's not for me.
    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    uprising2 wrote: »
    HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    Hey that really worked, all the evil is good now.
    Amazing what a little humming can achieve.
    Your entitled to believe in buddah, but it's not for me.
    Thanks

    Another crass display of your willful ignorance. I must have hit a nerve considering you are resorting to insults and sarcasm.

    I wandered on to this thread from the music forum where it was originally posted. I've obviously entered some pretty vitriolic territory where logic and reason are not accepted debating tools. Can't say i'm not enjoying though.

    Just to clarify again my beliefs are based in science.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    DeBunny wrote: »
    Another crass display of your willful ignorance. I must have hit a nerve considering you are resorting to insults and sarcasm.

    I wandered on to this thread from the music forum where it was originally posted. I've obviously entered some pretty vitriolic territory where logic and reason are not accepted debating tools. Can't say i'm not enjoying though.

    Just to clarify again my beliefs are based in science.

    Well best of luck, glad your enjoying it, just turn my ignorance into something positive.

    In December 1953, Hubbard incorporated three churches – a "Church of American Science", a "Church of Scientology" and a "Church of Spiritual Engineering"

    Scientology teaches that people are immortal spiritual beings who have forgotten their true nature.

    Is this what your into?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭DigiGal


    I put Freemason and NWO symbolismim in my art all the time so do many other artists I know
    I'm not in the illuminati or the freemasons but If it sure does piss people off!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Well best of luck, glad your enjoying it, just turn my ignorance into something positive.

    In December 1953, Hubbard incorporated three churches – a "Church of American Science", a "Church of Scientology" and a "Church of Spiritual Engineering"

    Scientology teaches that people are immortal spiritual beings who have forgotten their true nature.

    Is this what your into?

    I presume this is an attempt at humor/ more sarcasm?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    DigiGal wrote: »
    I put Freemason and NWO symbolismim in my art all the time so do many other artists I know
    I'm not in the illuminati or the freemasons but If it sure does piss people off!

    Which is exactly why Rihanna, etc use it. Not for artistic purposes but to generate revenue. ''Bad publicity is good publicity''

    Any way these symbols don't belong to the Freemasons. Just because I use the alphabet doesn't mean it belongs to me.
    Geometric shapes have been produced by nature long before people where around to use them as marketing tools or artistic metaphors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    DigiGal wrote: »
    I put Freemason and NWO symbolismim in my art all the time so do many other artists I know
    I'm not in the illuminati or the freemasons but If it sure does piss people off!

    Good for you!, who buy's your art?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    DeBunny wrote: »
    I presume this is an attempt at humor/ more sarcasm?
    Bit of both, listen I have nothing personally against you, just different belief's.
    DeBunny wrote: »
    Which is exactly why Rihanna, etc use it. Not for artistic purposes but to generate revenue. ''Bad publicity is good publicity''

    Any way these symbols don't belong to the Freemasons. Just because I use the alphabet doesn't mean it belongs to me.
    Geometric shapes have been produced by nature long before people where around to use them as marketing tools or artistic metaphors.

    A lot of the sh1t mason's use in their symbology doesn't belong to them, Ark of the Covenant for example, it's a mixture of mystery pagan religions, egyptian mythology, Abrahamic religion, satanism, designed to confuse.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Bit of both, listen I have nothing personally against you, just different belief's.



    A lot of the sh1t mason's use in their symbology doesn't belong to them, Ark of the Covenant for example, it's a mixture of mystery pagan religions, egyptian mythology, Abrahamic religion, satanism, designed to confuse.


    It seems to have done the trick.

    I'm off to check out the science forum.

    It's been fun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    DeBunny wrote: »
    One becomes the other.

    It also evident that theosophy, masonic rights, Luciferianism, etc are based in the science that is discussed in these videos. Not the other way around. I would recommend watching the other half.

    The fact that the Universe is an illusion and made of nothing but information and energy is the ''dark secret'' that masons etc hide. They mask it with bullsh*t symbols and rituals as a distraction. It works extremely well.

    Zen philosophy would be the purest belief system based on this way of thinking. There is no concealment or elitism.

    David Copperfield must be raging.
    Is that not more in line with branches of Hunduism than Buddhism?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,428 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Good for you!, who buy's your art?

    I really had to laugh, nail on the head stuff that was:pac:

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    DeBunny wrote: »
    I wandered on to this thread from the music forum where it was originally posted. I've obviously entered some pretty vitriolic territory where logic and reason are not accepted debating tools.

    Oh dear, I believe my poor thread has been insulted in my absence.:(

    Allow me to clarify. I asked my initial question with the intention that I would be given replies varied by individual different beliefs and thereby encouraging logical debate. I don't believe I have at any stage resorted to insulting anyone's individual views or illustrating poor logic and debating tools, so if you have a problem with an individual's response don't generalise the thread based on this and in doing so indirectly insulting other people who are posting here.

    On a lighter note, I'm glad you and Uprising are enjoying yourselves and hope you'll both continue posting, as both of your opinions, although evidently different, are a valuable contribution to the discussion. Afterall without differeing opinions there would be no debate.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Darlughda


    Hia Dull & Boring:)

    From the link you posted a few pages back you will see that the author is a heavy duty born again christian type. Personally, I reckon all these accusations of devil worshipping and satanism come from people who believe in the judeao-christian god, so therefore they are susceptible to believing anything that isn't 'good' or god is his nemesis-evil incarnate -Satan himself.

    I have never come across an atheist who believes in all this devil worshipping business. There are folk who are satanists,like a kind of religion, when I was a teenager and people were fear mongering about the affect of evil music on us young 'uns it was bands like Slayer and hardcore metal that accusations of devil worshipping were levelled at.

    It really is sad state of affairs that mass marketing media is so bland that its Rihanna and co that are considered the sinister influence nowadays!

    Even though I don't believe in this god/devil business, if I had to imagine hell it would be having to sit through one of her concerts for eternity. May the force be with you!


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