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Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    Does that strike anyone else as odd? Can’t imagine I’d ever want to go for an evening meal in an airport arrivals. :pac:

    The Lindbergh room was considered the height of luxury back in the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    hobie14 wrote: »
    In the old days (Drumgeely flats etc) we used to go up every Sunday for a decent roast .... :)

    So did half of Shannon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Ennisman


    The Lindbergh room was considered the height of luxury back in the day.

    It was really good. I think the students from the college did their training there. If you could get in there, it was a treat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Bristol is back for S19 beginning on the 2nd of April operating Tuesday and Saturday.
    Tues BRS1255 - SNN1410. SNN1435 - BRS1550
    Sat BRS2010 - SNN2125. SNN2150 - BRS2305

    Brilliant news, was worried they'd disappeared completely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Ennisman


    Azur Air flight ZF-777 (Boeing 777-300 VQ-BZY) diverting to Shannon this morning with medical. Descended to 10,000 feet over Rennes in France and continued to Shannon, dumping fuel before landing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭ElNino


    Ennisman wrote: »
    Azur Air flight ZF-777 (Boeing 777-300 VQ-BZY) diverting to Shannon this morning with medical. Descended to 10,000 feet over Rennes in France and continued to Shannon, dumping fuel before landing.

    The Examiner has a story up on it
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/caribbean-bound-holiday-flight-diverts-to-shannon-with-ill-passenger-885553.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭md323


    Todays flight to boston EI135 says unknown on flightradar...cant follow it.
    Any reason for this?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    md323 wrote: »
    Todays flight to boston EI135 says unknown on flightradar...cant follow it.
    Any reason for this?

    It's being operated by EI-CJX, this plan has intermittent problems on FR24 for some reason


  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭hobie14


    Nice to see an Airbus A319 neo doing circuits today ... ☺


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  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭hondabanner


    Norwegian gone January February and March


  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭tv221


    Wow looks that way. Got to go JFK to get to Boston for a few weeks. Talking with someone working at Edwards Lifesciences. Settling for the main facility to be located in Limerick, left them 20 mins closer to Cork and Dublin for necessary travel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Norwegian gone January February and March

    Wow, to go from 10x weekly to nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Cargo jet diverts to Shannon with engine problem (Clare Herald)

    A cargo jet has made an emergency landing at Shannon Airport after the crew was forced to shut down one of the aircraft’s engines over the Atlantic.

    United Parcel Service (UPS) cargo flight UPS-209 was travelling from Philadelphia in the US to Cologne in Germany when the crew declared an emergency. There were three crew members on board.

    Shortly before 10.00am, the crew of the twin-engine Boeing 767-300 freighter contacted air traffic controllers to advise they had a problem with their right engine and had shut it down. The crew also told controllers that they would require airport crash crews to be standing by for them when they landed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭hondabanner


    New East Midlands route 2x weekly


  • Registered Users Posts: 768 ✭✭✭SNNUS


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Wow, to go from 10x weekly to nothing.

    Wow don’t fly to SNN :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Aviation Statistics (Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport)

    There will be no repeat of the cargo tonnage for October and November this year after they shipped high volumes of coke concentrate to the U.S. lasty year.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭holly8


    Norwegian gone January February and March

    I went to book n March and no flights showing past mid-Jan .. what happened there? Bummer .. Dublin is a nightmare compared to Shannon


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    holly8 wrote: »
    I went to book n March and no flights showing past mid-Jan .. what happened there? Bummer .. Dublin is a nightmare compared to Shannon

    Low demand, resumes on the 31st of march


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,755 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    FR add EMA next summer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    FR add EMA next summer.

    Already posted


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Dublin closed due to radar failure, multiple flights diverting to SNN


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    The following flights were diverted and landed in Shannon.
    • Ryanair FR663 Birmingham to Dublin
    • Aer Lingus EI203 Manchester to Dublin
    • Aer Lingus EI263 /EIN26M Birmingham to Dublin
    • Ryanair FR505 Bristol to Dublin
    • Ryanair FR7045 Malaga to Dublin
    • SAS SK537 Copenhagen to Dublin

    The following flights were planned as diversions, went on hold over or towards Shannon, but could land in Dublin.
    • Air France AF6735 Chicago to Dublin
    • Delta Air Lines DL44 /DAL44 JFK to Dublin
    • Air Arabia 3O173 /MAC173 Agadir to Dublin
    • Turkish Airlines TK1975 Istanbul to Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    And still Shannon will be ignored by airlines despite saving asses so regularly.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    And still Shannon will be ignored by airlines despite saving asses so regularly.

    Airlines just want to make money and if they can get routes that make more money they will set them up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    And still Shannon will be ignored by airlines despite saving asses so regularly.

    I'm not sure that airlines choose their destinations based on how many times they've diverted there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭jasper100


    And still Shannon will be ignored by airlines despite saving asses so regularly.

    I doubt the existence of shannon has ever saved many lives. Dublin cork and knock are not much further.

    If a person gets into difficulty 3 hours out another 20 minutes will hardly matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    jasper100 wrote: »
    I doubt the existence of shannon has ever saved many lives. Dublin cork and knock are not much further.

    If a person gets into difficulty 3 hours out another 20 minutes will hardly matter.

    Well you would be wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭notharrypotter


    jasper100 wrote: »
    I doubt the existence of shannon has ever saved many lives. Dublin cork and knock are not much further.

    If a person gets into difficulty 3 hours out another 20 minutes will hardly matter.

    Hate to disagree but Knock and Cork for years were irrelevant when it came to aircraft diverting on the North Atlantic.
    20 min is a lot, go look in Galway Bay😟


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    jasper100 wrote: »
    I doubt the existence of shannon has ever saved many lives. Dublin cork and knock are not much further.

    If a person gets into difficulty 3 hours out another 20 minutes will hardly matter.

    The runways in Cork and Knock are too short to take fully laden heavys, which is what most of these diverts are. And Dublin is closed over night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭jasper100


    Makes no odds, if it wasnt shannon they would divert somewhere else. Its over 3000 miles new york to shannon, another 1 or 200 miles to dublin or manchester wouldnt make much difference.

    If shannon closed down tomorrow aircraft would just divert elsewhere.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    jasper100 wrote: »
    Makes no odds, if it wasnt shannon they would divert somewhere else. Its over 3000 miles new york to shannon, another 1 or 200 miles to dublin or manchester wouldnt make much difference.

    If shannon closed down tomorrow aircraft would just divert elsewhere.

    That's true, but to say that the extra time would make no difference to a sick passenger is blatantly wrong.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    jasper100 wrote: »
    Makes no odds, if it wasnt shannon they would divert somewhere else. Its over 3000 miles new york to shannon, another 1 or 200 miles to dublin or manchester wouldnt make much difference.

    If shannon closed down tomorrow aircraft would just divert elsewhere.

    True, you always hear in a medical emergency that time doesn't matter and emergency services can take their time, that's why you never see ambulances in a rush :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    jasper100 wrote: »
    Makes no odds, if it wasnt shannon they would divert somewhere else. Its over 3000 miles new york to shannon, another 1 or 200 miles to dublin or manchester wouldnt make much difference.

    If shannon closed down tomorrow aircraft would just divert elsewhere.

    Take it from someone regularly involved in medical diversions, you're talking absolute ****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Hopefully it happens, hopefully some more routes or expansion from airlines still to come for 2019


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    EU airport baggage rules to cost regional airports at least €14m (Irish Times)

    New security regulation to come into force in 2020

    New EU rules requiring tougher security screening of air travellers’ baggage will cost the Republic’s regional airports at least €14 million.

    The new regulations demand that, by 2020, airport screening systems for baggage that passengers check in must match detection levels similar to medical CAT scans, which produce more detailed images than X-rays.

    Installing the equipment needed to scan the baggage will cost Donegal, Kerry, Knock and Shannon airports a total of €14.3 million.

    . . . . . . . The new system would cost State-owned Shannon Airport about €10 million, the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Shane Ross, told the Dáil recently.

    ‘Financial difficulties’

    Mr Ross said the figure would present “significant financial difficulties” for the airport’s owner, Shannon Group, which had not included the money in its forecasts.

    He added that the department was unlikely to provide the airport with cash for this, but said his officials were discussing the issue with Shannon, which handled 1.75 million passengers last year.

    The group would not say how much it would have to spend on the new system, but said the cost would be significant.

    “As Shannon does not receive any State subvention, the airport will fund development from its own resources,” the group added.

    EU law allows the department give cash to regional airports to cover costs such as ensuring security systems comply with the bloc’s standards.

    However, the rules bar the Government from aiding the three State airports, Cork, Dublin and Shannon, which operate commercially. . . . . . .

    ground-floor-new.sflb.ashx

    There are five baggage belts in the arrival baggage hall dating from the early 1970's. I presume this would be earmarked for a total overhaul too after over 45 years in use?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman



    There are five baggage belts in the arrival baggage hall dating from the early 1970's. I presume this would be earmarked for a total overhaul too after over 45 years in use?

    Not including this in forecasts is a bit of an oversight, in my limited knowledge of European directives there are very few surprises, changes are usually flagged years in advance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭OfTheMarsWongs


    ground-floor-new.sflb.ashx

    There are five baggage belts in the arrival baggage hall dating from the early 1970's. I presume this would be earmarked for a total overhaul too after over 45 years in use?

    There’s some construction work going on in the arrivals hall. Only two (as far as I recall, was there last week) in use at the moment. The others are behind hoarding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,859 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Hopefully it happens, hopefully some more routes or expansion from airlines still to come for 2019

    http://www.clare.fm/news/call-shannon-france-route-brexit-looms/

    Call for a route to France (Paris, I presume!) as well!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Clareman wrote: »
    Not including this in forecasts is a bit of an oversight, in my limited knowledge of European directives there are very few surprises, changes are usually flagged years in advance.

    It's curious alright, especially when they are often to the forefront in introducing new technologies.

    Shannon becomes first European airport to have facial recognition installed for US preclearance (September 2018)

    World’s first trials of a new security screening system taking place at Shannon Airport (September 2016)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Balf


    The runways in Cork and Knock are too short to take fully laden heavys, which is what most of these diverts are. And Dublin is closed over night.
    I'm a wee bit puzzled. Dublin only closes on Christmas Day.

    In extremis, even Cork might be used in an emergency.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/dutch-plane-makes-emergency-landing-at-cork-airport-117973.html

    Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:03 AM
    A KLM jumbo jet with 432 passengers on board has made an emergency landing at Cork Airport.

    The plane was en route from the West Indies to Holland when the captain radioed ahead to report a problem on board.

    It’s believed that a fire broke out on board around 250 miles off the south coast of Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Balf wrote: »
    I'm a wee bit puzzled. Dublin only closes on Christmas Day.

    In extremis, even Cork might be used in an emergency.

    Dublin closes at night. So if a divert station is needed at 2am, its useless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,755 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Dublin closes at night. So if a divert station is needed at 2am, its useless.

    No it doesn’t, even on Christmas day they could accept a divert if the emergency was so bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭notharrypotter


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    No it doesn’t, even on Christmas day they could accept a divert if the emergency was so bad.
    There will be no Air Traffic Control on Christmas Day.
    Unlikely Fire Crew either.


    Very desperate emergency to opt for Dublin on Christmas Day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Ennisman


    Dublin is closed on Christmas Day. The Ethiopian flight on Christmas Day landed at Shannon last year (and previous year too I believe). That's not to say that Dublin couldn't accept a diversion if it really had to or there was no other option.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,755 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Yes its closed but ATC and Fire are on duty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Ennisman wrote: »
    Dublin is closed on Christmas Day. The Ethiopian flight on Christmas Day landed at Shannon last year (and previous year too I believe). That's not to say that Dublin couldn't accept a diversion if it really had to or there was no other option.

    And this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Norwegian gone January February and March

    It's now official.

    New York Stewart will take a winter break from from January 12th until March 31st.

    There is no mention of Boston Providence winter schedule, but it seems from their website that there are no flights available from December to the end of March too.
    Norwegian Air to reduce Dublin and Shannon services to US (Irish Times)

    Decision base on cost savings, says airline

    Norwegian Air is to halve the number of flight from Dublin to New York for the winter with two daily flights resuming at the end of March.

    Daily flights from Shannon to New York Stewart International Airport in Newburgh, New York, will cease on January 12th. The service will resume at the rate of five times per week on March 31st, the airline intends to maintain the route as a summer-only service from 2019 onwards.

    Up to 100,000 passengers have flown with the airline to and from Shannon Airport since July, 2017 when they commenced services with four weekly direct flights to New York Stewart International Airport and Providence International Airport.

    However their decision to scale back comes as it reduces flights from Europe to Stewart International Airport to 11, the least it has offered since first landing at the airport 17 months ago. This coming January will see Norwegian terminate its London Gatwick to Singapore route after 15 months of operation.

    Head of Communications with Norwegian, Anders Lindström said the decision was cost based. “In order to ensure a more successful and profitable operation, Norwegian will shorten parts of its winter schedule from Newburgh, during periods when demand is much lower. As a cost disciplined company, we continuously monitor and evaluate our route network and these changes have been made as part of our commitment to reducing costs”.

    “We are seasonally adjusting routes across our entire network to be even more competitive, including a number of other US routes as well, so not just to Ireland. And it’s only effective during the most quiet travel period,” Mr Lindström added.

    He explained that the decision not to return Shannon to its original volume of flights in the busier season is due to a greater demand in Dublin. “Our route capacity is always based on demand in the market”.

    Customers that have already booked flights have been informed of the changes and offered a full refund or a rebooking option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Shannon Airport chief criticises lack of Government support (Irish Times)

    Airport will have to spend €10m on baggage screening upgrade.

    The chief executive of State-owned Shannon Airport has criticised the Government’s policy of not supporting it for infrastructure projects, calling it “counter-intuitive”.

    Speaking to The Irish Times, Matthew Thomas said new security equipment the airport needed to satisfy EU rules would cost the airport €10 million but would not add any commercial value.

    While the Government could support the airport for this project and not breach EU state-aid rules, he said its stated policy was not to support semi-State airports in this regard.

    The Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport did not respond to a request for comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,755 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Surely users of the airport should fund it!


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