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African gang beat the sh*t out of two gardai with a baseball bat.

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    #62
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users Posts: 18,090 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Blame Cosby he's a bad influence


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    #63
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Greyling wrote: »
    Taken in context of who made the post it's a perfectly fair comment.

    He started this ****e over in the Islam thread but as the slow hateful wheels in his head started to turn he realised it wasn't right for there so had to make a thread here.



    What s***e did i start? What problem do you have with me starting a thread about an assault on members of the gardai.

    I bet if it was carried out by natives you wouldnt have a problem with the thread.


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    #64
    Christy42
    Registered Users Posts: 7,868 ✭✭✭Christy42


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Christy42 wrote: »
    Of course we are not talking about Irish people. If Irish people did this no one would have bothered to start the thread.

    It is designed to over emphasize crimes by minorities to push an agenda under false pretences. Yes the thread title is technically accurate but it is designed to be misleading about what is going on.



    So why dont you tell us all whats going on?
    Burden of proof is on the other side here mate. I pointed out the reasoning behind the thread and the cherry picked data.

    If someone wants to highlight an issue with immigration it is up to them to prove their point (without cherry picking data).

    I said that this thread was designed to be misleading about what is going on. If we have had 1000 assaults on Garda then we would need to check those out to get a better picture. Not hop on whichever one happens to be done by people from a certain segment of society that we want to give out about.


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    #65
    super_furry
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    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    What then is your problem in this thread. Mostly I see strawman arguments and ad hominems. And the trick of quoting a post by “fixing it”.

    My problem is that the thread is racist in tone and content from the very first post and was only created because it was a black person involved.


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    #66
    Greyling
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    thebull85 wrote: »
    What s***e did i start? What problem do you have with me starting a thread about an assault on members of the gardai.

    I bet if it was carried out by natives you wouldnt have a problem with the thread.

    You wouldn't have started the thread if it was carried out by natives.


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    #67
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,321 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    thebull85 wrote: »

    I bet if it was carried out by natives you wouldnt have a problem with the thread.

    If it was "carried out by natives" you wouldn't have created it.


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    #68
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    super_furry wrote: »
    My problem is that the thread is racist in tone and content from the very first post and was only created because it was a black person involved.

    You mean people. It was a Nigerian gang.


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    #69
    thebull85
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    Christy42 wrote: »
    Burden of proof is on the other side here mate. I pointed out the reasoning behind the thread and the cherry picked data.

    If someone wants to highlight an issue with immigration it is up to them to prove their point (without cherry picking data).

    I said that this thread was designed to be misleading about what is going on. If we have had 1000 assaults on Garda then we would need to check those out to get a better picture. Not hop on whichever one happens to be done by people from a certain segment of society that we want to give out about.



    Again i think you are overlooking the seriousness of this incident. Maybe have a look at the whole story.

    This was not just an average assault.


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    #70
    Conservative
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    Christy42 wrote: »
    punisher5112 wrote: »
    super_furry wrote: »
    So you're okay with Irish-born people committing crimes or do the government get to revoke their citizenship too?
    up

    But we aren't talking about Irish are we.....

    Irish people of course do wrong and should be punished and much more so then they are.
    Of course we are not talking about Irish people. If Irish people did this no one would have bothered to start the thread.

    It is designed to over emphasize crimes by minorities to push an agenda under false pretences. Yes the thread title is technically accurate but it is designed to be misleading about what is going on.


    What is so difficult to grasp here? Just because Irish people have done similar or worse doesn't change the fact that we have non EU born people living here engaged in drug dealing and general criminality.

    We have no choice when it comes to dealing with our own.

    These people owe this country big time and the first signs of behaviour like this they should be returned to the slums they came from, no questions asked.


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    #71
    thebull85
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    super_furry wrote: »
    If it was "carried out by natives" you wouldn't have created it.

    Maybe i wouldnt, but you certainly wouldnt have a problem if i did.

    Would you?


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    #72
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,321 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Maybe i wouldnt, but you certainly wouldnt have a problem if i did.

    I feel like you're so close to a breakthrough here.....


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    #73
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    super_furry wrote: »
    I feel like you're so close to a breakthrough here.....

    i dont know what you mean, but carry on..


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    #74
    Greyling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Greyling


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Maybe i wouldnt, but you certainly wouldnt have a problem if i did.

    Would you?

    Why do you think anyone wants to hear what a deluded drug user like you has to say anyway? You're the lad funding these gangs and then you're whinging about them. Take some personal responsibility.


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    #75
    Vladimir Poontang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Vladimir Poontang


    We have enough scum of our own without importing more and straining our already thin resources.

    Deport them now


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    #76
    thebull85
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    Greyling wrote: »
    Why do you think anyone wants to hear what a deluded drug user like you has to say anyway? You're the lad funding these gangs and then you're whinging about them. Take some personal responsibility.

    Wow hitting me where it hurts there, and quite a few people are interested in what ive said.


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    #77
    Greyling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Greyling


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Wow hitting me where it hurts there, and quite a few people are interested in what ive said.

    Why do you fund these gangs if you don't want them here?


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    #78
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Greyling wrote: »
    Why do you fund these gangs if you don't want them here?

    have you any evidence for that accusation guard?


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    #79
    Greyling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Greyling


    thebull85 wrote: »
    have you any evidence for that accusation guard?

    Yeah.
    thebull85 wrote: »
    MDMA has been my go to for years now, but from what im hearing from some friends the pills that around now are the strongest that have been around in years.

    Care to respond?


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    #80
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Greyling wrote: »
    Yeah.



    Care to respond?


    thats all you have? what about the evidence that im funding African gangs?


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    #81
    Greyling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Greyling


    thebull85 wrote: »
    thats all you have? what about the evidence that im funding African gangs?

    How do you think gangs make money? I'll give you a clue, it's drugs.


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    #82
    dr.fuzzenstein
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    It's only a matter of time before the Gardaí will have to be tooled up like a SWAT team any time they are called out to any of the "diversified" housing estates. Another triumph of the multicultural experiment.

    Ah yes, because nothing bad ever happens to Gardai, Fire brigade, ambulance, postmen or passing trains whenwhen it comes to dealing with Irish people.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/passengers-face-delays-after-train-windows-are-smashed-with-large-rocks-35226262.html

    http://www.thejournal.ie/garda-welfare-3925874-Mar2018/

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/please-respect-our-crews-dublin-fire-brigade-attacked-while-attending-bonfire-call-36268458.html

    This took 2 seconds of googling.
    I would say that as far as assualting public services, the Irish are number one ion Europe. You'll beat anyone who wants to help you to a pulp, gardai, nurses, firemaen, train drivers, postmen, doesn't matter, smash it.


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    #83
    Franz Von Peppercorn
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    Christy42 wrote: »
    Burden of proof is on the other side here mate. I pointed out the reasoning behind the thread and the cherry picked data.

    If someone wants to highlight an issue with immigration it is up to them to prove their point (without cherry picking data).

    I said that this thread was designed to be misleading about what is going on. If we have had 1000 assaults on Garda then we would need to check those out to get a better picture. Not hop on whichever one happens to be done by people from a certain segment of society that we want to give out about.

    How many were hospitalised?


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    #84
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Ah yes, because nothing bad ever happens to Gardai, Fire brigade, ambulance, postmen or passing trains whenwhen it comes to dealing with Irish people.

    Throw me a list there of the cases where a gang of Irish people beat up a couple of Gardaí with baseball bats, set dogs on them, and their backup had to flee due to the numbers ranged against them, before armed support came to the rescue.


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    #85
    pleas advice
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    Throw me a list there of the cases where a gang of Irish people beat up a couple of Gardaí with baseball bats, set dogs on them, and their backup had to flee due to the numbers ranged against them, before armed support came to the rescue.

    hey hey, careful now...


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    #86
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Graces7 wrote: »
    and quoted here as being travellers who did it?

    Yep that was me taking a guess, it ticked all the boxes but I got it wrong


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    #87
    Badly Drunk Boy
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    Greyling wrote: »
    How do you think gangs make money? I'll give you a clue, it's drugs.
    So you're happy with African gangs being allowed to stay here dealing drugs?


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    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Greyling wrote: »
    How do you think gangs make money? I'll give you a clue, it's drugs.

    You are very much behind the times my friend.


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    Greyling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Greyling


    Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »
    So you're happy with African gangs being allowed to stay here dealing drugs?

    I'm not happy with any gangs here dealing drugs. I also don't use drugs.

    Anyone that does has no right to complain about them


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    #90
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Throw me a list there of the cases where a gang of Irish people beat up a couple of Gardaí with baseball bats, set dogs on them, and their backup had to flee due to the numbers ranged against them, before armed support came to the rescue.

    Well, your list consists of one case which is hysterically shouted about to whip up a bit of the ould outrage about a certain group.
    My concern is more that the Gardai are attacked at all, but you don't seem to care about those assualts, because they are carried out by Irish people, nothing wrong with that, ey? Your issue seems to be more with the color of the attackers than anything else? It seems to suit some kind of agenda you have.
    The Gardai need to be given teeth. As it stands they are a joke.
    This assault would have ended very diffenently in Europe, police here have more than a stick and a radio to defend themselves with.


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    #91
    jimgoose
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    Did the ASU fire any rounds? I don't believe so - that in itself is quite remarkable. Talk about restraint.


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