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African gang beat the sh*t out of two gardai with a baseball bat.

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    #92
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Well, your list consists of one case which is hysterically shouted about to whip up a bit of the ould outrage about a certain group.
    My concern is more that the Gardai are attacked at all, but you don't seem to care about those assualts, because they are carried out by Irish people, nothing wrong with that, ey?
    The Gardai need to be given teeth. As it stands they are a joke.
    This assault would have ended very diffenently in Europe, police here have more than a stick and a radio to defend themselves with.
    They need to be given proper uniforms first. The absolute state of them currently does not command respect.


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    #93
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Yep that was me taking a guess, it ticked all the boxes but I got it wrong

    have you been called racist yet for making that assumption?


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    #94
    Auguste Comte
    Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Auguste Comte


    thebull85 wrote: »
    thats all you have? what about the evidence that im funding African gangs?
    Dont tell me, you only buy yokes with a pointy white hat on them.


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    #95
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Did the ASU fire any rounds? I don't believe so - that in itself is quite remarkable. Talk about restraint.

    Police in Ireland always seem to act as if they're afraid to take action.
    It sets a bad signal for the criminals who are better equipped and trained it would appear.
    If they one day decided to walk into governemnt offices and say "listen here sunshine, from now on we're calling the shots" what will they do? Get the Gards to wave wooden batons at them?


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    #96
    Stovepipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    Gravelly wrote: »
    It's only a matter of time before the Gardaí will have to be tooled up like a SWAT team any time they are called out to any of the "diversified" housing estates. Another triumph of the multicultural experiment.

    It's already the case, really. Cops doing a raid in any "rough" estate or street with a likelihood of a kick-off will routinely have the armed Gardai tipped off. Firemen will routinely call the Gardai if they are tasked with quenching a burning car, as the chances of getting attacked are very high and the usually teenaged perps know that they will remain untouched. Nothing to do with skin colour or racial origin.


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    #97
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Just to make you aware, we cannot deport people born here.

    The State can deport anyone who's not an Irish citizen and being born here doesn't make you that. Not those born in Ireland from 01/01/05, anyway.


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    #98
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    It's already the case, really. Cops doing a raid in any "rough" estate or street with a likelihood of a kick-off will routinely have the armed Gardai tipped off. Firemen will routinely call the Gardai if they are tasked with quenching a burning car, as the chances of getting attacked are very high and the usually teenaged perps know that they will remain untouched. Nothing to do with skin colour or racial origin.

    Well, a lot of people are more concerned with the color of the attackers than the assault themselves...


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    #99
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Police in Ireland always seem to act as if they're afraid to take action.
    It sets a bad signal for the criminals who are better equipped and trained it would appear.
    If they one day decided to walk into governemnt offices and say "listen here sunshine, from now on we're calling the shots" what will they do? Get the Gards to wave wooden batons at them?

    I must disagree, Chief. The armed guys are the coolest, hardest, most level-headed of the lot, with no great interest in shooting anyone. That's why they get the guns. :D


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    #100
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Police in Ireland always seem to act as if they're afraid to take action.
    It sets a bad signal for the criminals who are better equipped and trained it would appear.
    If they one day decided to walk into governemnt offices and say "listen here sunshine, from now on we're calling the shots" what will they do? Get the Gards to wave wooden batons at them?

    Afraid of being thrown under the bus by their superiors and/or being sued if they pull the trigger.


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    #101
    thebull85
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    Auguste Comte wrote: »
    Dont tell me, you only buy yokes with a pointy white hat on them.

    Nah, just the ones with the Nazi symbols. Proper good they are too.


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    #102
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Well, your list consists of one case which is hysterically shouted about to whip up a bit of the ould outrage about a certain group.
    My concern is more that the Gardai are attacked at all, but you don't seem to care about those assualts, because they are carried out by Irish people, nothing wrong with that, ey? Your issue seems to be more with the color of the attackers than anything else? It seems to suit some kind of agenda you have.
    The Gardai need to be given teeth. As it stands they are a joke.
    This assault would have ended very diffenently in Europe, police here have more than a stick and a radio to defend themselves with.

    Wow - that's a good long list of assumptions. I'll make an assumption in turn, based on what you've posted - you don't care what happened to the Gardaí in this case, your only concern is that someone has highlighted the issue of Nigerian gangs in Dublin, and you want to pretend the problem doesn't exist because it goes against your agenda.


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    #103
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Well, a lot of people are more concerned with the color of the attackers than the assault themselves...

    That sums up your contributions perfectly!


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    #104
    RasTa
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    I knew this would happen if we let them in! I knew it! Things used to be so peaceful but now look at it, chaos on the streets and sure it's only going to get worse.


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    #105
    weisses
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    Going after a drug dealing gang ............ unarmed .... Only in Ireland :rolleyes:


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    #106
    weisses
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    RasTa wrote: »
    I knew this would happen if we let them in! I knew it! Things used to be so peaceful but now look at it, chaos on the streets and sure it's only going to get worse.


    hahahahaha .... you must be hit by a sulky


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    #107
    Enochwasright
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 27 ✭Enochwasright


    Do any of the people making excuses and shouting down any opinion as racist ever stop to think it's just people in fear and not coming from a bad/racist place? People have seem mass migration from Africa destabilising so many towns and cities across Europe and mabey just want to get a jump on it and stop it happening here? A while back we were promised by team liberal there would be no problem, now we are told there may be problems but it's to late to remove them as they are citizens now, with what's happening across Europe with crime/unemployment/benefit dependency etc from African immigrants should we not be allowed to analyse and debate this properly without the shrill screams of racism?


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    #108
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    weisses wrote: »
    Going after a drug dealing gang ............ unarmed .... Only in Ireland :rolleyes:

    Well yes, only in Ireland is right. The police in Ireland are unarmed, and long may they remain so. These gangs can get as thick as they like, the State, in it's own good time, will get thicker, with the ASU and eventually the likes of the ARW asked to clean up the shit.


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    #109
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Time for the feud to end lads…


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    #110
    [Deleted User]
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    Greyling wrote: »
    I'm not happy with any gangs here dealing drugs. I also don't use drugs.

    Anyone that does has no right to complain about them

    Absolute rubbish.


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    #111
    Greyling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Greyling


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Absolute rubbish.

    Why? I don't contribute financially to anyone I don't support. If you buy drugs you're supporting organised crime. You're part of the problem.


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    #112
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,997 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Pelvis wrote: »
    Because only Africans have baseball bats and big dogs.

    Indeed. Besides they should integrate and use the camán and slash hook.


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    #113
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Absolute rubbish.

    why ? if you buy drugs from drug dealers where do you think the money goes ?

    im speaking in general not specific to this case ?


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    #114
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    why ? if you buy drugs from drug dealers where do you think the money goes ?

    im speaking in general not specific to this case ?

    Brown Thomas


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    #115
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Would be great to use the Freedom of Information Act to see what this guy's argument for asylum here in Ireland was.
    Would also be interesting to see who granted it and the basis they used.

    I'd say it would be a right scéal greannmhar altogether.


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    #116
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Brown Thomas

    ooh, racist.


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    #117
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Brown Thomas

    are you saing you buy your drugs from a black fella called thomas ?


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    #118
    Obi_Wan_Kenobi
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Obi_Wan_Kenobi


    sweetie wrote: »
    Fixed your post.

    Wow , you must be such a woke liberal, I wish I was as sophisticated and as smart as you.


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    #119
    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    topper75 wrote: »
    Would be great to use the Freedom of Information Act to see what this guy's argument for asylum here in Ireland was.
    Would also be interesting to see who granted it and the basis they used.

    I'd say it would be a right scéal greannmhar altogether.

    The right to remain with or reunify with family is the most likely one. The wheels of the process turn so slowly that by the time somebody has exhausted the usual grounds on which refugee status can be sought they should have assembled a family of some description that can be relied upon to remain indefinitely.


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    #120
    Ush1
    Registered Users Posts: 11,461 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Trasna1 wrote: »
    In fairness, there is an arc of deprivation along the west of the M50 stretching from Clonee to Jobstown and beyond. There is also a racial integration issue in these areas which is not the cause but an added dimension.

    This happened in Ballyogan, Dublin 18. It's next to Foxrock.


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    #121
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,780 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    why ? if you buy drugs from drug dealers where do you think the money goes ?

    im speaking in general not specific to this case ?

    The money goes to helping cute puppies and fluffy kittens of course.


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