TD claims gardaí involved in drugs trade

DamagedTrax · 11-12-2014 4:49pm

buck65 wrote: »

I'm genuinely interested in hearing more about this, I wasn't aware of it tbh.
I like the guy but didn't always, saw him speak recently and he changed my mind about him and abou this country.

he got out owing a lot of people money in his wake.

now i know he went thru the proper channels and made a deal with revenue in the end but that doesnt excuse him in my eyes. the revenue are the very last people that needs the money in those situations.

GerB40 · 11-12-2014 4:52pm

FGR wrote: »

So have you reported this to the Ombudsman and/or local Garda Superintendent?

What do I do? Tell the Gardai that a Garda is crooked? They have always looked after their own and until that changes I won't be telling any officials. And the Garda I'm referring to has been suspended before. I don't know exactly why but I live in a fairly small town and plenty of people know what he/she gets up to. The Gardaí must be smart enough to know too but this person is in a high enough position that might frighten the average cop on the street into keeping quiet. And when it comes to drugs where I live nobody tells anyone what they don't need to know.. So unless this particular Garda starts killing people, I'll be keeping quiet. Safer that way.

Beano · 11-12-2014 4:53pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.

which is exactly what he has done. he gave the information he had to the garda ombudsman. Months ago.

Satriale · 11-12-2014 4:54pm

The Thin White Line?

mikom · 11-12-2014 4:55pm

If only Gerry Ryan was still on the air, then we could have had a phone in about this topic........

buck65 · 11-12-2014 5:03pm

GerB40 wrote: »

What do I do? Tell the Gardai that a Garda is crooked? They have always looked after their own and until that changes I won't be telling any officials. And the Garda I'm referring to has been suspended before. I don't know exactly why but I live in a fairly small town and plenty of people know what he/she gets up to. The Gardaí must be smart enough to know too but this person is in a high enough position that might frighten the average cop on the street into keeping quiet. And when it comes to drugs where I live nobody tells anyone what they don't need to know.. So unless this particular Garda starts killing people, I'll be keeping quiet. Safer that way.

Does the average Garda on the street give a damn?

buck65 · 11-12-2014 5:04pm

mikom wrote: »

If only Gerry Ryan was still on the air, then we could have had a phone in about this topic........

Gerry might have had some evidence himself?!

joe swanson · 11-12-2014 5:07pm

Tax cheat who took from his employees gives out about illegality. What's a disgrace is that this man has not been prosecuted.

He should back these allegations up immediately as if true are very serious and need to be investigated.

buck65 · 11-12-2014 5:16pm

joe swanson wrote: »

Tax cheat who took from his employees gives out about illegality. What's a disgrace is that this man has not been prosecuted.

He should back these allegations up immediately as if true are very serious and need to be investigated.

Read the ****ing thread homes

Beano · 11-12-2014 5:23pm

joe swanson wrote: »

Tax cheat who took from his employees gives out about illegality. What's a disgrace is that this man has not been prosecuted.

He should back these allegations up immediately as if true are very serious and need to be investigated.

OHFFS would you ever actually read the thread before posting. He has passed the info to the garda ombudsman and they are being investigated.

GerB40 · 11-12-2014 5:25pm

buck65 wrote: »

Does the average Garda on the street give a damn?

I'd say they care more about keeping their jobs than what their superiors get up to..

Viper_JB · 11-12-2014 5:34pm

GerB40 wrote: »

I'd say they care more about keeping their jobs than what their superiors get up to..

From what I've seen in the media recently if you break the status quo in the garda your career is done, snitches get stitches and all that....or fired, or bullied till they quit.

11-12-2014 5:36pm

Viper_JB wrote: »

From what I've seen in the media recently if you break the status quo in the garda your career is done, snitches get stitches and all that....or fired, or bullied till they quit.

The cops want us to come forward with reports of crime yet they treat people (whistle blowers) that badly. Why would I trust them to protect me?

Valetta · 11-12-2014 5:38pm

Viper_JB wrote: »

From what I've seen in the media recently if you break the status quo in the garda your career is done, snitches get stitches and all that....or fired, or bullied till they quit.

How many have been fired?

Viper_JB · 11-12-2014 5:42pm

Valetta wrote: »

How many have been fired?

I honestly have no idea probably quiet hard to be fired from the public sector/garda, was John Wilson just bullied till he quiet or was he let go?

Don Kedick · 11-12-2014 5:45pm

Look, I'm not the biggest fan of the gardaí

Valetta · 11-12-2014 5:46pm

Don Kedick wrote: »

Look, I'm not the biggest fan of the gardaí

Post of the week.

Fred Swanson · 11-12-2014 6:57pm

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Galwayguy35 · 11-12-2014 7:02pm

When he has all the millions he owes the taxpayer who bailed him and the other developers out maybe he might be worth listening to.

Until then he can sit in his little corner of the Dail in his pink t shirt and talk to himself or his number 1 fan Clare Daly.

The One Doctor · 11-12-2014 7:03pm

Wallace sounds like a man with paranoid delusions.

nxbyveromdwjpg · 11-12-2014 7:04pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

This coming from the politician who blew off two million in tax evasion as if it was nothing? He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.

Cool so the garda can go on dealing until Mick Wallace sorts out his tax.

Everyones a winner.

No.. wait..

My name is URL · 11-12-2014 7:16pm

The One Doctor wrote: »

Wallace sounds like a man with paranoid delusions.

And you sound like a plonker who's in no position to make such a diagnosis.

Why do you think he sounds paranoid? For repeating claims made by Garda whistle-blower Nicky Keogh?

Wise up ffs.

suicide_circus · 11-12-2014 7:26pm

I think it's clear from recent revelations that AGS are at best a long way from where they should be and at worst a fcuking shambles.

archer22 · 11-12-2014 7:28pm

More and more the Gardai are beginning to look like Punch cartoon characters come to life :eek:.

Tinkersbell · 11-12-2014 7:29pm

stevedublin wrote: »

Um, surely it would be the guards in trouble?

It's Ireland.
The whistleblowers are the bad guys.....

bjork · 11-12-2014 7:40pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

The last lad that broke the code had rats nailed to his front door by his distinguished collegues in the Gardai, if I'm not mistaken

Tinkersbell · 11-12-2014 7:46pm

bjork wrote: »

The last lad that broke the code had rats nailed to his front door by his distinguished collegues in the Gardai, if I'm not mistaken

AGS is rotten from the top down......

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CC0QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.broadsheet.ie%2Ftag%2Fkieran-boylan%2F&ei=_OWJVI6gMIu67galhoHgBA&usg=AFQjCNFHuCatnGxvgbBnMUZ1MMY4etBpDg

Little CuChulainn · 11-12-2014 7:46pm

The evidence produced to back up these claims is shocking .... Oh wait.

Tinkersbell · 11-12-2014 7:52pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

The evidence produced to back up these claims is shocking .... Oh wait.

LOL, you lads don't like the cosy little corrupt club being exposed, do you?
Whistleblowers must put the fear of God into you.

Have a read of the link in my previous post to see how squeaky clean your beloved AGS is.

Highflyer13 · 11-12-2014 7:55pm

Tinkersbell wrote: »

LOL, you lads don't like the cosy little corrupt club being exposed, do you?
Whistleblowers must put the fear of God into you.

Have a read of the link in my previous post to see how squeaky clean your beloved AGS is.

As I have posted before. There is a rot and it starts right at the feet of FF/FG/Lab. For us to make real change and move forward they need to go.

*Awaits Rabble Rabble Sinn Fein, Communists blah blah*

Little CuChulainn · 11-12-2014 8:10pm

bjork wrote: »

The last lad that broke the code had rats nailed to his front door by his distinguished collegues in the Gardai, if I'm not mistaken

You think? I'm pretty sure that with a short Google search I can find plenty of examples of Gardaí being prosecuted by their colleagues for a range of offences from minor traffic to drug dealing itself without any rodents involved.

Mesrine65 · 11-12-2014 8:26pm

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/local-news/limerick-based-detective-garda-will-not-face-prosecution-1-6350741

Little CuChulainn · 11-12-2014 8:33pm

Mesrine65 wrote: »

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/local-news/limerick-based-detective-garda-will-not-face-prosecution-1-6350741

“The DPP’s office is of the view that the evidence in the case is not sufficient to enable a reasonable jury to be satisfied to the criminal standard as to sustaining a conviction,” states the correspondence.

But here you go.

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/courts/ex-garda-jailed-for-string-of-offences-including-dealing-cocaine

My name is URL · 11-12-2014 8:43pm

Ex garda jailed for dealing cocaine, attempting to frame someone for car theft and insurance fraud

That headline isn't reflected in the article at all =/

Cooper of The Green, Kingswood Heights, Tallaght pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice at the festival between September 5, 2009 and September 2, 2010 by knowingly allowing Luke Barnett to be wrongfully prosecuted on September 2, 2010.

Cooper was also charged with stealing a bag of cannabis herb worth €560 from Sundrive Garda Station on May 27, 2010 but this count was withdrawn by the prosecution.

Doesn't mention anywhere that he was jailed for fraud or dealing cocaine.

bjork · 11-12-2014 9:05pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You think? I'm pretty sure that with a short Google search I can find plenty of examples of Gardaí being prosecuted by their colleagues for a range of offences from minor traffic to drug dealing itself without any rodents involved.

Yep and I can find examples of Gardai having their penalty points quashed

Reason given: They had no fixed abode

:pac:

Tinkersbell · 11-12-2014 9:15pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You think? I'm pretty sure that with a short Google search I can find plenty of examples of Gardaí being prosecuted by their colleagues for a range of offences from minor traffic to drug dealing itself without any rodents involved.

Can you find one for an assistant Garda commissioner, who went on to be commissioner and best buddy of a FG MoJ, running a drug dealer and being prosecuted?

The_Kew_Tour · 11-12-2014 9:29pm

I'm actually surprised this surprises people.

Little CuChulainn · 11-12-2014 9:38pm

bjork wrote: »

Yep and I can find examples of Gardai having their penalty points quashed

Reason given: They had no fixed abode

:pac:

Go for it.

Don Kedick · 11-12-2014 9:40pm

The gardaí have been up to far worse than drug dealing over the years. They even were in bed with the British sure ffs.

Kevin McCloud · 11-12-2014 9:42pm

Don Kedick wrote: »

They even were in bed with the British sure ffs.

Nothing wrong with a bit of riding.

kingchess · 11-12-2014 9:42pm

Don Kedick wrote: »

The gardaí have been up to far worse than drug dealing over the years. They even were in bed with the British sure ffs.

That is where the auld handcuffs cum in handy-know wot I mean?

Don Kedick · 11-12-2014 9:45pm

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a bit of riding.

Well you'd like to be using your own truncheon wouldn't ya?

Don Kedick · 11-12-2014 9:47pm

kingchess wrote: »

That is where the auld handcuffs cum in handy-know wot I mean?

I always thought the gardaí weren't allowed to unleash their weapons.

Muahahaha · 11-12-2014 9:51pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

Jaysis thats some high horse you're up on there Jack, careful you don't fall off.
Clearly you have never been in business for yourself Jack and lived in the real world. Because if you have then you'd fully understand why he fobbed the Revenue off so he could keep his company open and pay his employees their wages. What he did may not have been legal, but it was definitely honourable. When you're put in a choice of either laying staff off or 'borrowing' money from the Revenue many in business have done the latter and gotten away with it.

You seem to be up there in your ivory tower looking down on the likes of Mick Wallace because you hate the way he has exposed the Gardai as corrupt. But I;d hazard a guess that Mick Wallace has done far more for the community he lives in than most of us here will in our lifetimes. Wallace not only founded a football club he also built their stadium for free as well as a huge sporting complex. That football club produced one Kevin Doyle who later went onto score many goals for Ireland. How about you Jack, can you say you founded a football club and helped get hundreds of kids off the street, built them a stadium and faciities from your own pocket and your own time and then produced players good enough to do it for their country at international level? No you can't Jack, but Mick Wallace can and no-one can ever take that away from him

He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.

You conveniently forget to mention that Ming sent every TD in the country a rolled spliff with a note saying who it was from and what his legalisation campaign was about. AFAIR Ming is on record as saying only about 40 or so out of 166 TDs sent him the spliff back. Says alot really, I'd say they were all happy out

Dempsey · 11-12-2014 9:57pm

Is anyone actually surprised by these allegations?

bjork · 11-12-2014 10:08pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Go for it.

Are you sitting on the floor because you'll hurt yourself falling off your chair laughing when you read the following :pac:

http://www.thejournal.ie/maurice-mccabe-penalty-points-new-claims-1671562-Sep2014/ Sep 15 1:38 PM

He added that the allegations related to a “significant number” of points being cancelled on spurious grounds, including “no known address” being listed, despite the points pertaining to serving Garda members.

Tinkersbell · 11-12-2014 10:13pm

Don Kedick wrote: »

I always thought the gardaí weren't allowed to unleash their weapons.

Only in copper face jacks......

Muahahaha · 11-12-2014 11:17pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You think? I'm pretty sure that with a short Google search I can find plenty of examples of Gardaí being prosecuted by their colleagues for a range of offences from minor traffic to drug dealing itself without any rodents involved.

Links?

gene_slackman · 12-12-2014 12:01am

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

When he has all the millions he owes the taxpayer who bailed him and the other developers out maybe he might be worth listening to.

Until then he can sit in his little corner of the Dail in his pink t shirt and talk to himself or his number 1 fan Clare Daly.

Clare Daly who the guards tried to stitch up last year , you take a big risk by speaking up to AGS

gene_slackman · 12-12-2014 12:08am

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I'm actually surprised this surprises people.

Conditioning , media has always eulogised the police force in this country , they have a fulltime shill in Paul Williams , to even question the guards and any of their practices was sure to have you labelled a ner do well

TD claims gardaí involved in drugs trade

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