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TD claims gardaí involved in drugs trade

  • 11-12-2014 3:26pm
    #1
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭


    If Mick Wallace wasn't in trouble before, he might be now.
    Independent TD Mick Wallace has claimed that some members of the Garda are involved in drug dealing.

    The claims include allegations that a senior garda in the Midlands supplied drugs for distribution to his girlfriend; that gardaí supervised the removal of drugs from boats and that gardaí have tasked drug dealers with selling seized drugs.

    Speaking this week at an event in Dublin called Banter, Mr Wallace said he and TD Clare Daly and then TD Luke Ming Flanagan “didn’t bring a quarter of what information we actually have from serving guards, ex-guards, members of the public of some terrible things that have been going on and are still going on in the country that involve malpractice”.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/mick-wallace-claims-garda%C3%AD-involved-in-drugs-trade-1.2034029


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  • #2
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Mick Wallace strikes me as a guy who tests substances himself from time to time.


  • #3
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Mick Wallace strikes me as a guy who tests substances himself from time to time.

    Could be how he knows?


  • #4
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    I'm sure somebody will be along shortly to say that the guards were just using their discretion.


  • #5
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Mick Wallace strikes me as a guy who tests substances himself from time to time.

    play the man and not the ball. good man.


  • #6
    stevedublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭stevedublin


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    If Mick Wallace wasn't in trouble before, he might be now.

    Um, surely it would be the guards in trouble?


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  • #7
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    stevedublin wrote: »
    Um, surely it would be the guards in trouble?

    you do know how this country works, right?


  • #8
    kerry4sam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    If Mick Wallace wasn't in trouble before, he might be now.

    Time will tell...


  • #9
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Even if it's true then it'll get no attention as the biggest dumbest prick the history of politics broke the story.


  • #10
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Imagine if they were. considering how delusional they are about the street value of every haul they catch they'd just rip everyone off anyway.

    "Can I've an eighth there guard?"

    " that has a street value of 500,000 euro. And if you don't buy it I'll arrest ya."


  • #11
    DeadHand
    Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    I know of a few Gardai who abuse illegal drugs as happily as anyone but never even heard rumours of them being involved in dealing.

    Wouldn't surprise me.


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  • #12
    milltown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,616 ✭✭✭milltown


    If he had raised it in the Dail previously, wouldn't it be on public record already?


  • #13
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    This coming from the politician who blew off two million in tax evasion as if it was nothing? He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.


  • #14
    ROCKMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    Ah the cheap /free supply source could explain the Club card point system of the other thread ,,


  • #15
    Joe prim
    Registered Users Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Joe prim


    I demand Wallace names the guilty parties, as i need to get my stash for xmas want to write an angry letter to my local TD, dude. Also, what's he done with Gromit?


  • #16
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    This coming from the politician who blew off two million in tax evasion as if it was nothing? He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.

    Yes lets just change the topic from more criminal corruption of your colleagues .


  • #17
    chrysagon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭chrysagon


    wow..corruption in Ireland....... say it aint so


  • #18
    GerB40
    Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    I won't go into any detail but I know for a fact that this is true. I don't know if it's the same person as Mick is referring to but at least one Garda in the midlands does dabble in "pharmaceutical supplying".


  • #19
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    milltown wrote: »
    If he had raised it in the Dail previously, wouldn't it be on public record already?

    it is. and apparently currently under investigation by the garda ombudsman.


  • #20
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Cops have made Wallace' life difficult since Shattergate, to the point where they watch his house and follow him.
    Not surprised by this at all - we all know crooked cops at a local level.

    And for that guy who brought up Wallace's tax evasion? Are you seriously saying that because Wallace evaded tax he can't speak?


  • #21
    hfallada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Is he aware there is a revenue hot line to report drugs or the garda confidential line. There is no point giving out about the garda without reporting it properly


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  • #22
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Like to the ombudsman??

    FFs revenue hotline


  • #23
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    hfallada wrote: »
    Is he aware there is a revenue hot line to report drugs or the garda confidential line. There is no point giving out about the garda without reporting it properly

    he has reported it to the garda ombudsman. do you think he should ring the garda confidential line and tell them that one of their own is selling drugs?


  • #24
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    buck65 wrote: »
    Cops have made Wallace' life difficult since Shattergate, to the point where they watch his house and follow him.
    Not surprised by this at all - we all know crooked cops at a local level.


    What's this 'we' business? Any Gardaí I know, aren't involved in any alleged criminal activity.

    And for that guy who brought up Wallace's tax evasion? Are you seriously saying that because Wallace evaded tax he can't speak?


    That'd be me, and I'm not suggesting at all that he can't speak. Of course he can. I'm saying that I have no interest in taking his allegations seriously because of his attitude to his own misdeeds in his own past.


  • #25
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    buck65 wrote: »
    Cops have made Wallace' life difficult since Shattergate, to the point where they watch his house and follow him.
    Not surprised by this at all - we all know crooked cops at a local level.

    And for that guy who brought up Wallace's tax evasion? Are you seriously saying that because Wallace evaded tax he can't speak?

    Are you seriously suggesting that Wallace only brought up this unfounded allegation because of his perceived harassement by the guards?

    If so he should be prosecuted for withholding information.


  • #26
    FGR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭FGR


    GerB40 wrote: »
    I won't go into any detail but I know for a fact that this is true. I don't know if it's the same person as Mick is referring to but at least one Garda in the midlands does dabble in "pharmaceutical supplying".

    So have you reported this to the Ombudsman and/or local Garda Superintendent?


  • #27
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Valetta wrote: »
    Are you seriously suggesting that Wallace only brought up this unfounded allegation because of his perceived harassement by the guards?

    If so he should be prosecuted for withholding information.

    No, Wallace has had this information for a while but persistent badgering by the boys in blue has perhaps made his say "**** this" here goes...

    Shatter misjudged Wallace badly to the point where it cost him his job, the bully boys are doing the same.

    Have a look at the **** going on in the Ian Bailey case and what has happened in Donegal in the past.


  • #28
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    What's this 'we' business? Any Gardaí I know, aren't involved in any alleged criminal activity.





    That'd be me, and I'm not suggesting at all that he can't speak. Of course he can. I'm saying that I have no interest in taking his allegations seriously because of his attitude to his own misdeeds in his own past.

    what exactly was his attitude to his own misdeeds?


  • #29
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    buck65 wrote: »
    No, Wallace has had this information for a while but persistent badgering by the boys in blue has perhaps made his say "**** this" here goes...

    Shatter misjudged Wallace badly to the point where it cost him his job, the bully boys are doing the same.

    Have a look at the **** going on in the Ian Bailey case and what has happened in Donegal in the past.

    So do you have a problem with Wallace withholding this information he supposedly has until now?


  • #30
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Valetta wrote: »
    So do you have a problem with Wallace withholding this information he supposedly has until now?

    Until now?

    It's been brought up in the Dail before by himself and Ming

    http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/officers-linked-to-heroin-dealing-30256807.html


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  • #31
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    I can understand why he did, but as stated earlier this is an investigation ongoing into his claims and perhaps these allegations are also in play there.
    This might be just going public. Let's see , but dismissing a fella who evaded tax and might have different political / fashion beliefs coming out with this is ridiculous.
    He exposed Shatter and the Commissioner to an extent also, most people would agree that these 2 guys had to go because of their arrogance but people are still quick to slam Wallace.
    We need more Mick Wallace's in this ****ing corrupt toilet of a country.


  • #32
    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    Oh no, the Gardai are colluding with drug dealers.



    Kieran Boylan Anyone??


  • #33
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Until now?

    It's been brought up in the Dail before by himself and Ming

    http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/officers-linked-to-heroin-dealing-30256807.html

    Listen, this is all they've got...witholding evidence and tax evasion.

    The point of this is the Gardai , not Wallace.


  • #34
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    buck65 wrote: »
    Listen, this is all they've got...witholding evidence and tax evasion.

    The point of this is the Gardai , not Wallace.

    Seriously???

    You dismiss that as trivial?


  • #35
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    This leaves the legalise drugs people in an awful quandry...

    They are pro drugs... but they also hate gardai.


  • #36
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    buck65 wrote: »
    what exactly was his attitude to his own misdeeds?


    He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

    He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.


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  • #37
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,805 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    buck65 wrote: »
    And for that guy who brought up Wallace's tax evasion? Are you seriously saying that because Wallace evaded tax he can't speak?

    That's just the usual tarnish the accuser in a pathetic attempt to belittle them. Sadly most people fall for it.


  • #38
    DamagedTrax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    What's this 'we' business? Any Gardaí I know, aren't involved in any alleged criminal activity.





    That'd be me, and I'm not suggesting at all that he can't speak. Of course he can. I'm saying that I have no interest in taking his allegations seriously because of his attitude to his own misdeeds in his own past.

    are you a cop? if so are you also judge, jury and executioner?

    do you not think that it is your job to investigate, provide the evidence gathered and let the judicial system decide who is guilty and what they are guilty of, rather than deciding that you're not going to take an elected official's claims seriously (despite your personal opinion of him)?


    (if you're not a cop then i apologies as ive obviously read the post wrong).


  • #39
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    he is known locally as Garda Greenthumb


  • #40
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    are you a cop? if so are you also judge, jury and executioner?

    do you not think that it is your job to investigate, provide the evidence gathered and let the judicial system decide who is guilty and what they are guilty of, rather than deciding that you're not going to take an elected official's claims seriously (despite your personal opinion of him)?


    (if you're not a cop then i apologies as ive obviously read the post wrong).


    Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.


  • #41
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

    He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.


    Was it not the bank that basically pulled his credit and forced him into liquidation? Thought the 2m tax was used to pay subbies/suppliers etc? Don't think he went out of his way to ****
    anyone over bar the Revenue.

    But what about the good work he's done, should we continue to focus on his tax evasion. Also did the Revenue not agree a settlement with him that he is honouring?


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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
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    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    It's true of the drug squad higher ups.

    Link or evidence that proves this?


  • #43
    DamagedTrax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.

    it is, as stated a few times in the thread, an ongoing claim thats currently being investigated.

    (dont get me wrong, i dont like the guy, he f'd over too many in the past but this isnt about him).


  • #44
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.

    Is this what he's doing? stoking up anti Garda sentiment? And as has been mentioned before he did go to the authorities before.

    But hey keep you're head in the clouds, you have obviously made up your mind about this case so don't let any facts get in the way.

    Move on.


  • #45
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    OP
    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    If Mick Wallace wasn't in trouble before, he might be now.
    buck65 wrote: »
    Listen, this is all they've got...witholding evidence and tax evasion.

    The point of this is the Gardai , not Wallace.
    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    it is, as stated a few times in the thread, an ongoing claim thats currently being investigated.

    (dont get me wrong, i dont like the guy, he f'd over too many in the past but this isnt about him).

    :rolleyes:


  • #46
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    it is, as stated a few times in the thread, an ongoing claim thats currently being investigated.

    (dont get me wrong, i dont like the guy, he f'd over too many in the past but this isnt about him).

    I'm genuinely interested in hearing more about this, I wasn't aware of it tbh.
    I like the guy but didn't always, saw him speak recently and he changed my mind about him and abou this country.


  • #47
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.



    Why?


  • #48
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Valetta wrote: »
    OP







    :rolleyes:

    er...what?


  • #49
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

    He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.

    And sitting across the Dail from Fiann Fail leader Michael martin who had large sums of developers money lodged into he's wife's account!


  • #50
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    buck65 wrote: »
    er...what?

    The opening post was specifically about Mick Wallace.


  • #51
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    michael999999 wrote: »
    And sitting across the Dail from Fiann Fail leader Michael martin who had large sums of developers money lodged into he's wife's account!

    What's wrong with that?

    I've had developers' money lodged into my account on numerous occasions.


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