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Seems like a good deal on firewood....

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  • #902
    Billydoc
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Billydoc


    DavyD_83 wrote: »
    Off be interested if he's delivering to Dublin. Not sure where you are yourself

    I contacted him last week. He was expecting a delivery after Xmas and it hasn’t come yet. He doesn’t know when it’ll come. He was blaming covid.


  • #903
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Hi all,

    Does anyone know were is a good deal to order kiln dried oak? I want at least 2m3

    Thanks


  • #904
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Okay I ordered this, not to sure if it is a good price but I was running out of options.



    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Crates-Of-Firewood-And-Pallet-Deals/Premium-Oak-Log-25cm-Crate-18m-850kg-0051927


  • #905
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    stevek93 wrote: »
    Okay I ordered this, not to sure if it is a good price but I was running out of options.



    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Crates-Of-Firewood-And-Pallet-Deals/Premium-Oak-Log-25cm-Crate-18m-850kg-0051927




    €375.00 delivered ??


  • #906
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    Coop superstores is 50 euro to deliver one or two pallets of wood, it's 75 euro for three or more.

    That's the killer and makes it go from.good value to not.


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  • #907
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    tnegun wrote: »
    Yeah its shady alright, looking around even short changed the price is about average for kiln dried hardwood. I'll push them again tomorrow and see will they offer an acceptable refund. I just saw red when he said €6 and were doing me a deal as it should be costing me more!

    What happened in the end?


  • #908
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    I know someone previously posted a comment about these and said they were good. Does anyone else have feedback on them. I normally but a couple of pallets of hardwood, but I've enough until the end of February, maybe early March. Instead of ordering now and having the shed filled up as a result, I was looking at these:

    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Crates--Hardwood-Firewood-Logs/Premium-Oak-Hardwood-Logs-6-Pk-10kg-0051920

    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Firewood--Wooden-Logs/Premium-Beech-Hardwood-Logs-6-Pk-10kg-0051919

    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Wooden-Logs-And-Briquettes/Premium-Wood-Logs-10kg-0051913


    No going by weight alone, there's 5 for 20 euro, so for 200 euro, you get 50 packs, that's 500kg. Most of the pallets are in weight approximately, 400 kg roughly I believe and are coming out that price or dearer. Am I missing something here but this is great value and you don't need to bulk buy. You can get 50 kg worth for 20 euro.

    I'd be interested in peoples thoughts or experiences with these logs. Thanks.


  • #909
    tnegun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭tnegun


    bailey99 wrote: »
    What happened in the end?


    I ended up keeping it as I was stuck, they did give a €20 refund and honestly believed they were doing me a great deal! They also wouldn't entertain any conversation about the different timber, less volume extra pallets etc. in their mind the differences were completely insignificant.


  • #910
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    tnegun wrote: »
    I ended up keeping it as I was stuck, they did give a €20 refund and honestly believed they were doing me a great deal! They also wouldn't entertain any conversation about the different timber, less volume extra pallets etc. in their mind the differences were completely insignificant.

    They sound like a bunch of cowboys to be honest, not only sending out the wrong type of wood ordered but also leaving you short on the volume. That kind of carry on is just stupid on their behalf as when people find a good supplier they will order there year after year. At least you'll know to avoid them next winter and other posters here can make up their minds on them too, I wouldnt be touching them with a barge pole based on how they treated your legitimate complaint.

    Will you at least have enough wood to see you through the rest of the winter or will you go back to Monahans for another order instead?


  • #911
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭stevek93


    bailey99 wrote: »
    Coop superstores is 50 euro to deliver one or two pallets of wood, it's 75 euro for three or more.

    That's the killer and makes it go from.good value to not.

    The delivery for me was 25 euro but that is each pallet.


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  • #912
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭stevek93


    bailey99 wrote: »
    Coop superstores is 50 euro to deliver one or two pallets of wood, it's 75 euro for three or more.

    That's the killer and makes it go from.good value to not.

    The delivery for me was 25 euro but that is each pallet.


  • #913
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    I usually burn ash burn was offered a deal on beech instead this time. I hear it's as good as oak/ash so I'm going to go for it and make up my own mind.


  • #914
    tnegun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    They sound like a bunch of cowboys to be honest, not only sending out the wrong type of wood ordered but also leaving you short on the volume. That kind of carry on is just stupid on their behalf as when people find a good supplier they will order there year after year. At least you'll know to avoid them next winter and other posters here can make up their minds on them too, I wouldnt be touching them with a barge pole based on how they treated your legitimate complaint.

    Will you at least have enough wood to see you through the rest of the winter or will you go back to Monahans for another order instead?
    I should have enough to get this month out of it at least maybe a week or two more depending what the weathers like. Will definitely be back to Monahans later in the summer I can only store about 1.5-2m3 though so can't buy enough for the whole season in one go.


  • #915
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Well hopefully it gets you through to about Paddys day and then it should get a bit warmer then. I ran out on Paddys weekend last year but didnt order again. I just got a five bags of firewood from Woodies for the odd really cold night in April and that did me grand as the fire isnt my main heating, Ive a heat pump there as well.

    Last summer Monahans sent me a text around the end of July offering 10% off crates. I didnt take it up at the time but I think if you are buying a 2m3 crate in the middle of summer theres no harm in asking for a bit of a discount.


  • #916
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭stevek93


    bailey99 wrote: »
    I usually burn ash burn was offered a deal on beech instead this time. I hear it's as good as oak/ash so I'm going to go for it and make up my own mind.

    I have ash and oak but I much prefer the oak am I right? I find the oak embers much longer so if you forget about the fire with the oak you are okay for a while with the ash it’s gone and you have to light it again.


  • #917
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,963 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    bailey99 wrote: »
    I know someone previously posted a comment about these and said they were good. Does anyone else have feedback on them. I normally but a couple of pallets of hardwood, but I've enough until the end of February, maybe early March. Instead of ordering now and having the shed filled up as a result, I was looking at these:

    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Crates--Hardwood-Firewood-Logs/Premium-Oak-Hardwood-Logs-6-Pk-10kg-0051920

    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Firewood--Wooden-Logs/Premium-Beech-Hardwood-Logs-6-Pk-10kg-0051919

    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Fuel--Heating/Solid-Fuel/Wooden-Logs-And-Briquettes/Premium-Wood-Logs-10kg-0051913


    No going by weight alone, there's 5 for 20 euro, so for 200 euro, you get 50 packs, that's 500kg. Most of the pallets are in weight approximately, 400 kg roughly I believe and are coming out that price or dearer. Am I missing something here but this is great value and you don't need to bulk buy. You can get 50 kg worth for 20 euro.

    I'd be interested in peoples thoughts or experiences with these logs. Thanks.

    They are reconstituted from chippings/sawdust similar to a peat bricket from turf dust.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #918
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    They are reconstituted from chippings/sawdust similar to a peat bricket from turf dust.

    So are you saying they are rubbish and I should avoid them. I was gonna get these to tide me through end if winter season. But I was offered beech there earlier.


  • #919
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    I got similar wood logs from topline and they were utter shi7e
    Try a small pack as a tester

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • #920
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    Cheers for the tip. I'll leave them off do. Thanks. In I'll try the beech wood, see how it goes.


  • #921
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    bailey99 wrote: »
    Cheers for the tip. I'll leave them off do. Thanks. In I'll try the beech wood, see how it goes.

    beech isnt too bad tbh i had that last year delivered in a tonne bag

    The internet isn’t for everyone



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  • #922
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,963 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    bailey99 wrote: »
    So are you saying they are rubbish and I should avoid them. I was gonna get these to tide me through end if winter season. But I was offered beech there earlier.

    Any reconstituted material will not give out the heat of an solid state material. They burn faster than the solid material as well. Most people only used brickets to start a fire seldom as the main fuel source.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #923
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    OmegaGene wrote: »
    beech isnt too bad tbh i had that last year delivered in a tonne bag

    Well I was offered beech or ash. I looked them up and beech actually had a higher output of heat. Small price difference with ash being slightly dearer approximately 6% dearer in price.


  • #924
    lenscap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭lenscap


    OmegaGene wrote: »
    I got similar wood logs from topline and they were utter shi7e
    Try a small pack as a tester

    Not all briquette logs are the same. Some burn well, some expand dangerously and are useless.

    I have tried a lot of different types and (for me) have found ones that don't expand and burn well. I also think they are best suited to a stove where you can control the burn rate.

    I gave a detailed post in this thread #627
    Others have also given their opinions on these types of logs.
    They may suit some people but not others.

    I use them because I couldn't get consistently good quality wood for my stove.


  • #925
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    It's not 616, if you locate it let me know.


  • #926
    lenscap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭lenscap


    bailey99 wrote: »
    It's not 616, if you locate it let me know.

    Sorry, should have put on my reading glasses. :pac:
    It's #627 and I have edited the post to correct that.


  • #927
    J_A_F_A
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭J_A_F_A


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115208432&postcount=627
    lenscap wrote: »
    Sorry, should have put on my reading glasses. :pac:
    It's #627 and I have edited the post to correct that.


  • #928
    inthehole1
    Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭inthehole1


    Hi all
    Just wondering would anyone know where would be best value to order pallet of peat briquettes
    Thanks


  • #929
    john_doe.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭john_doe.


    Got a pallet of Kiln dried beech delivered from CO-op for €199 , problem is the timber is covered in mould.

    Also it's very difficult to burn, the logs feel heavy and all mould - quench after a while.

    Have had two stoves and been burning ash and beech and birch for years no problem.

    What should I do here - complain ? Or will they not care.

    If was my own timber I'd be okay, but I payed 200 euro for Kiln dried timber which doesn't seem to be kiln dried at all.


  • #930
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    john_doe. wrote: »
    Got a pallet of Kiln dried beech delivered from CO-op for €199 , problem is the timber is covered in mould.

    Also it's very difficult to burn, the logs feel heavy and all mould - quench after a while.

    Have had two stoves and been burning ash and beech and birch for years no problem.

    What should I do here - complain ? Or will they not care.

    If was my own timber I'd be okay, but I payed 200 euro for Kiln dried timber which doesn't seem to be kiln dried at all.

    Complain absolutely. If you ordered a fillet steak but were given a pound of mince, would you accept it. When it was delivered you shouldn't have accepted it and raised concerns there and then.


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  • #931
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Yeah Id agree, take a few photos and email them to the Co-op. Its probably a genuine mistake from the Co-op and you'd expect them to sort it. They may ask for a delivery fee to replace it and thats probably fair enough as the issue wasnt raised upon delivery but Id still expect them to make it right.

    Thing about mould is it will keep growing in our damp climate so by the time you get to the end of the crate those last logs will be even worse than what you are trying to burn now. And if they arent burning properly now you are in for a frustrating time with smoky fires that will produce little heat and leave creosote deposits on your chimney flue. Theres also a higher risk of carbon monoxide poisoning from burning wet wood.


  • #932
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    I ordered a crate of kiln dried beach I think it was from PJ O'Mahoney, it was delivered wrapped in plastic. When I ripped it open to start stacking in the shed it looked like great wood, dry, clean and nicely packed. But unfortunately as I got through the crate I found that about half the wood was soaking wet, looks like it must have got wet in storage or transport. Unusable stuff and I have no means of letting it dry out.

    That was over a week ago, I'm still waiting to hear back from them. I guess it's a lesson learned to check the delivery before they leave.


  • #933
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    How can you check the wood in the middle of the crate?! The delivery driver won't hang around for 20 mins while you check the crate.


  • #934
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    bailey99 wrote: »
    How can you check the wood in the middle of the crate?! The delivery driver won't hang around for 20 mins while you check the crate.

    Yeah true but in my case all the wood and the crate was wet down two sides, if I had removed the plastic when it was delivered I would have seen it. It got wet from the outside in (I'm positive the wood had been kiln dried) and then at some stage after that it got wrapped in plastic.


  • #935
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Sconsey wrote: »
    I ordered a crate of kiln dried beach I think it was from PJ O'Mahoney, it was delivered wrapped in plastic. When I ripped it open to start stacking in the shed it looked like great wood, dry, clean and nicely packed. But unfortunately as I got through the crate I found that about half the wood was soaking wet, looks like it must have got wet in storage or transport. Unusable stuff and I have no means of letting it dry out.

    That was over a week ago, I'm still waiting to hear back from them. I guess it's a lesson learned to check the delivery before they leave.

    I know this is no use right now but if you leave the wood in the shed over summer it should dry out a bit. Just ensure there is some ventilation like an open window or door. If you've space to store it indoors in the same room as the fire it will dry out even quicker. It will take about 3 to 4 weeks but it will get drier so you can use it. Ive tested wood that has been about 20% moisture coming from outside and after about 3-4 weeks inside near the fire it has dropped to 8-10%

    Still pretty bad the company havent got back to you though, maybe follow it up.


  • #936
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,963 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    It looks like this wood was stored outside for a while at some stage in the last while. . When water got into it the outside of the stack dried. This left the middle wet as the logs are stacked, the centre has failed to dry. However hardwood is slow to soak water...unless these stacks were out in the rain for a longtime. You would be amazed how fast they will dry out but it is annoying when you are paying a premium price. Try to store a few under or near your stove after 3-4 days they should be dry enough to burn.do not put them in at the start of the fire but rather after 90 minutes when it is well going . This way you may mange the issue

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • #937
    skydish79
    Registered Users Posts: 843 ✭✭✭skydish79


    Who are the top wood suppliers - could we make a list

    http://www.monahans.ie/kiln-dried-logs.php


  • #938
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    skydish79 wrote: »
    Who are the top wood suppliers - could we make a list

    http://www.monahans.ie/kiln-dried-logs.php

    Galway based suppliers...

    https://www.ecofuel.ie/
    Never had any quality issues, always dry, well packed, great service, etc. But they are way more expensive than their competitors. I appreciate the good service but the extra cost is too much. I don't buy logs from them anymore, because of the price, but all their options might suit some.

    http://www.connollysawmills.com/firewood-galway.html
    This guy has good quality logs at a great price (cheapest I've got) but he only delivers locally, or collection with a trailer. Obviously collection is not a runner at the moment.

    https://www.mcdonoghdirect.ie/wood-c102x2898624
    Only bought one crate off them in the past but it was good quality, fair price.


  • #939
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    It looks like this wood was stored outside for a while at some stage in the last while. . When water got into it the outside of the stack dried. This left the middle wet as the logs are stacked, the centre has failed to dry. However hardwood is slow to soak water...unless these stacks were out in the rain for a longtime. You would be amazed how fast they will dry out but it is annoying when you are paying a premium price. Try to store a few under or near your stove after 3-4 days they should be dry enough to burn.do not put them in at the start of the fire but rather after 90 minutes when it is well going . This way you may mange the issue

    I would not do this, unwanted moisture in living areas is not good


  • #940
    Scruff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭Scruff


    I'm still pretty green when it comes to buying firewood so this looked like good value to me for people in the Galway-clare-limerick region: 8m^3 loose load of Larch for €450
    https://midwestfirewood.ie/store/Aged-Larch-8-Cubic-Meters-p255736337

    if using the conversion rate of loose = 0.6 stacked volume and soft = 0.7 calorific of hard (found that some where on here)then
    8 x 0.6 x 0.7 = 3.36m^3 of stacked hardwood?

    Which still seems like great value at that price but am wondering if it its as its Larch? Anyone any experience of that wood?


  • #941
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
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    Not a personal experience, but I expect similarity to pine or spruce.

    https://www.stovesupermarket.co.uk/blogs/the-learning-center/whats-the-best-wood-to-burn-in-your-stove
    Larch - Rating: 3 / 5
    A nice scented hardwood when burnt, Larch is a very crackly firewood. It emits a good amount of heat however, it needs to be well seasoned. The oil and sap emitted when burning can clog up flue systems very fast if used regularly.


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  • #942
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Your calculation is correct and as you know larch is softwood so it will burn quicker and not produce as much heat log for log. 3.35m3 hardwood equivalent for 450 is good but before buying that volume of wood it might be an idea just to ask for enough for a couple of fires and test it yourself.

    Ive burnt softwood before (the stuff that petrol stations/supermarkets sell) and tbh Ive found it a bit frustrating. You throw a log or two on, they blaze up with flames for about 6 or 7 minutes and then the flame dies out and the heat output drops. Its also more smokey. Whereas with hardwood the flame gets less after the initial burst but is still there flickering away all the time and the logs eventually end up as glowing embers which give off a lot of heat. Also with softwood you find yourself having to top up the fire more often, if you forgot about it for 20 or 30 minutes the fire could go out.

    Thats not to say there arent good softwoods out there that might burn differently to that but before buying such a large load of it have a test of it and do your research. I've a neighbour who burns another softwood (pine) and while he knows he needs a lot more of it he still likes it, his wife loves the pine smell it sends throughout the house. But he does say it burns pretty quickly.


  • #943
    ciarsd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭ciarsd


    Has anyone purchased from https://www.buyfirewooddirect.ie/ ?


  • #944
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    ciarsd wrote: »
    Has anyone purchased from https://www.buyfirewooddirect.ie/ ?

    A poster here did a few weeks back and they received the wrong species of wood and the crates were not full up as advertised. Read post #860 and the few after it and also #909 onwards for more details. Up to yourself but Id avoid them given the experience that they had, the company never rectified their mistake when given the opportunity.


  • #945
    ciarsd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭ciarsd


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    A poster here did a few weeks back and they received the wrong species of wood and the crates were not full up as advertised. Read post #860 and the few after it and also #909 onwards for more details. Up to yourself but Id avoid them given the experience that they had, the company never rectified their mistake when given the opportunity.

    Thanks, I don't know how I missed those, even in a search. Appreciate it


  • #946
    Gizit
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭Gizit


    Scruff wrote: »
    I'm still pretty green when it comes to buying firewood so this looked like good value to me for people in the Galway-clare-limerick region: 8m^3 loose load of Larch for €450
    https://midwestfirewood.ie/store/Aged-Larch-8-Cubic-Meters-p255736337

    if using the conversion rate of loose = 0.6 stacked volume and soft = 0.7 calorific of hard (found that some where on here)then
    8 x 0.6 x 0.7 = 3.36m^3 of stacked hardwood?

    Which still seems like great value at that price but am wondering if it its as its Larch? Anyone any experience of that wood?

    Yes it is Larch used him a few years back, never again wood was really bad to burn and had to be dried out in the hot press before it could be used


  • #947
    Scruff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭Scruff


    €350 for 1.8m3 kiln dried oak delivered (probably external measurements)
    works out at €195/m3 delivered

    https://eireecofuels.ie/product/kiln-dried-oak-firewood-double-pallet/


  • #948
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    That's never scruff from ballincollig is it?


  • #949
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Scruff wrote: »
    €350 for 1.8m3 kiln dried oak delivered (probably external measurements)
    works out at €195/m3 delivered

    https://eireecofuels.ie/product/kiln-dried-oak-firewood-double-pallet/

    For an extra 20 euro Monahans do a 2m3 crate of oak which is slightly better value.

    And yeah any time a crate is measured it is the external dimensions they are referring to. Ive been meaning to measure the internal of mine just to find out how much we are losing on it, might be about 10% Im guessing.


  • #950
    franglan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭franglan


    Monagans seem to be out of stock on their website for a good bit of the dry kiln stuff - anyone rang them recently to see what they have in stock? Anyone buy the 2m oak pack for 370 recently?


  • #951
    cianaldo_
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭cianaldo_


    First time ordering a crate of wood as I've just had a stove installed. Has anyone used Coughlans Fuels in Cork https://www.coughlanfuels.com/woods-and-timbers.html and is 1.2cubic meters for 230e delivered good value? Any other better suggestions for Cork area?

    TIA!


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