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Cancelled and Rescheduled gigs

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 CELBRIDGE HOOP


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Fear and cowardice from our government, We all know who's calling the shots

    Who's calling the shots Mr Know all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Who's calling the shots Mr Know all?

    Jesus and the Bishop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Blut2 wrote: »
    Ah thats nonsense. Different population genetically from the UK? Or the rest of Europe?
    It does not have to be genetics it can be cultural. In which case I would think gig wise it would be similar to the UK.

    I did wonder if they would have any attempt to distinguish gigs somehow, like theatres were allowed in places, and I think national concert hall gigs were permitted, where they might have just presumed they would be more sedate, when there is no law preventing the NCH having moshpit and having some death metal band play...

    I was at Belle & Sebastian at Iveagh gardens and the bar had no real queue and was a far less packed crowd than at other gigs. It will be interesting to see if they have any legal mechanism to try and factor for this sort of thing. Like how the 9 euro meal laws have been in place for decades now (i.e, price limits not 9 euro), but many were oblivious to their existence. Just as many are unaware we have "jaywalking" laws simply as its not a big issue so not enforced much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Has there been any mention of next month's Ricky Gervais show being rescheduled? I know it obviously won't go ahead, just wondering if a new date has even announced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Has there been any mention of next month's Ricky Gervais show being rescheduled? I know it obviously won't go ahead, just wondering if a new date has even announced.

    https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1397581427282169864?s=20


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Lads, keep it civil. Don't bait people. This forum is normally grand so to those being dicks, revert to the norm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭hkjohn


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Fear and cowardice from our government, We all know who's calling the shots


    While everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion, PTH,
    you can't just base those opinions around quasi conspiracy
    theories without providing some kind of factual context.

    So who is "calling the shots"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,511 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Starting to get a few gigs postponed TBC which is a bit annoying. Was meant to be going a twice rescheduled comedy gig next week but Ticketmaster have said it's just TBC.


  • Registered Users Posts: 392 ✭✭SoundOfSilence


    Lads the pilot festival in phoenix park have the coronas and picture this written all over it. Normally id be disgusted however given the times, ill be up the front, top off, chewing the face off myself


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,826 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Lads the pilot festival in phoenix park have the coronas and picture this written all over it. Normally id be disgusted however given the times, ill be up the front, top off, chewing the face off myself

    A seated gig apparently! ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    PTH2009 wrote: »

    Who are you mad at in this situation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    The issue reportedly centres around the bill allegedly presented by the promoters, which Dublin Live understands is for €670,000.

    With just 3,500 tickets for the event going on sale, the average cost will be just under €200 per ticket to put on the show.

    A source told Dublin Live: “It looks like the concert is off after the row.

    “They (Department of Culture officials) didn’t take it too well with the bill they were presented with.

    “You’d get U2 and Coldplay together at your wedding for that price.
    :pac:

    Try another zero on the end there at least :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Who are you mad at in this situation?

    Pure annoyance that this could delay things further in terns of festivals/gigs


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Pure annoyance that this could delay things further in terns of festivals/gigs

    Yeah well, take a number and suck it up along with the rest of us.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭Blut2


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Who are you mad at in this situation?

    Trying to charge €670,000 to put on a gig for 3500 people would put the blame pretty squarely on the promoters surely?

    I know covid measures will increase the costs significantly over a normal gig, but thats surely about 5-10 times the cost it should be. Especially bearing in mind its going to be fairly low-cost Irish artists playing, not expensive international headline acts. And when there are no marketing costs to pay for the gig, which is usually also a significant expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Blut2 wrote: »
    Trying to charge €670,000 to put on a gig for 3500 people would put the blame pretty squarely on the promoters surely?

    I know covid measures will increase the costs significantly over a normal gig, but thats surely about 5-10 times the cost it should be. Especially bearing in mind its going to be fairly low-cost Irish artists playing, not expensive international headline acts. And when there are no marketing costs to pay for the gig, which is usually also a significant expense.

    Oh absolutely, trying to charge nearly 700k for Gavin James or the riptide movement should be tantamount to a war crime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭pottokblue


    Not cancelled but SOC announces her retirement after her next tour she hopes to get a spot on the Irish Voice. I hope she doesnt give up the LIVE performances as I've enjoyed her gigs many times most recently Vicar St 2019. Hopefully this announcement is a simple combination of whiskey and twitter and she doesnt give up all love performances.


  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭hkjohn


    pottokblue wrote: »
    Not cancelled but SOC announces her retirement after her next tour she hopes to get a spot on the Irish Voice. I hope she doesnt give up the LIVE performances as I've enjoyed her gigs many times most recently Vicar St 2019. Hopefully this announcement is a simple combination of whiskey and twitter and she doesnt give up all love performances.

    Don't worry. SOC will be back announcing new dates before you know it!

    Her rationale for her return will either be "the time was right" or "the fans demanded it" or "I felt as though I had unfinished business" (all synonyms for "I need the money")


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,152 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    hkjohn wrote: »
    Don't worry. SOC will be back announcing new dates before you know it!

    Her rationale for her return will either be "the time was right" or "the fans demanded it" or "I felt as though I had unfinished business" (all synonyms for "I need the money")

    she has already "un"retired according to her twitter account I believe....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    pottokblue wrote: »
    Not cancelled but SOC announces her retirement after her next tour she hopes to get a spot on the Irish Voice.
    ohhh, and did she mention she has a new book out.

    Grand bit of free advertising she is getting out of the media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,826 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    hkjohn wrote: »
    Don't worry. SOC will be back announcing new dates before you know it!

    Her rationale for her return will either be "the time was right" or "the fans demanded it" or "I felt as though I had unfinished business" (all synonyms for "I need the money")

    Don't think she or any artist owes fans anyone especially after how long she has toured for and issues in personal life. Wouldn't be unusual for an artist to do any of the above anyway so it's her choice at the end of the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    The latest Ricky Gervais reschedule:

    Hello

    We have just been advised that Ricky Gervais - Supernature at the 3Arena which was rescheduled to Friday 25th June 2021 (originally 29th May 2020) has been rescheduled due to COVID-19.

    Take note:

    This event will now take place at the same venue on Wednesday 6th October 2021.

    All original tickets remain valid for the new date.

    Anything else?
    That's all for now, if anything else comes up, we'll be in touch.

    Kind regards
    Ticketmaster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    The latest Ricky Gervais reschedule:

    Hello

    We have just been advised that Ricky Gervais - Supernature at the 3Arena which was rescheduled to Friday 25th June 2021 (originally 29th May 2020) has been rescheduled due to COVID-19.

    Take note:

    This event will now take place at the same venue on Wednesday 6th October 2021.

    All original tickets remain valid for the new date.

    Anything else?
    That's all for now, if anything else comes up, we'll be in touch.

    Kind regards
    Ticketmaster

    They were very slow yet again officially announcing the postponement.
    Gervais announced on twitter ages ago that the dates were going to be moved to October.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,826 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Zardoz wrote: »
    They were very slow yet again officially announcing the postponement.
    Gervais announced on twitter ages ago that the dates were going to be moved to October.

    And you'd wonder about chances of 13,000 being allowed indoors by then. Maybe UK part of tour could go ahead but at current pace not sure it's a guarantee that indoor events of that size will happen here but hopefully once vast majority vaccinated by then they may be able to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Eod100 wrote: »
    And you'd wonder about chances of 13,000 being allowed indoors by then. Maybe UK part of tour could go ahead but at current pace not sure it's a guarantee that indoor events of that size will happen here but hopefully once vast majority vaccinated by then they may be able to.

    Here's hoping, have a few concerts in the Autumn

    I'd head over to the UK if the Dublin dates are cancelled

    Elbow in the 3Arena in August will hopefully be the return of full capacity gigs in Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Any news on Michael kiwanuka at trinity? Ticketmaster still selling tickets but it's only 3 weeks away?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,511 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Any news on Michael kiwanuka at trinity? Ticketmaster still selling tickets but it's only 3 weeks away?

    It ain't happening in three weeks anyway.

    Probably still trying to find a date. I've had a gig postponed with no new date once the initial date came with no announcement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭hkjohn


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Don't think she or any artist owes fans anyone especially after how long she has toured for and issues in personal life. Wouldn't be unusual for an artist to do any of the above anyway so it's her choice at the end of the day.

    While they might have frightened the horses when Frank Sinatra did it in the 60s, artist announcements that they are retiring have not been taken seriously for many a year.

    While it is indeed SOC's choice to make - and then rapidly back pedal on - such "dramatic" announcements about her career, it's my choice, your choice, everybody's choice whether or not to take such pronouncements seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    with news of the funding for promoters in which modified versions of festival's could take place where would that leave stuff for the 3Arena which are still scheduled for Q4 in 2021 (i have posted those events below).

    Elbow- 28th Aug 21
    Genesis- 15th/16th Sep 21
    Dua Lipa- 18th/19th Sep 21
    Erasure- 4th Oct 21
    Ricky Gervais - 6th/7th Oct 21
    Professor Brian Cox- 15th Oct 21
    The Black Crowes- 21st Oct 21
    Jools Holland- 22nd Oct 21
    Biggest 90s Disco #3- 23rd Oct 21
    Bon Iver- 29th Oct 21
    AJ Tracey- 13th Nov 21
    JLS- 15th Nov 21
    Nightwish- 17th Nov 21
    Yungblud- 20th Nov 21
    The Offspring- 21st Nov 21
    Alanis Morissette- 25th Nov 21
    MK- 26th Nov 21
    Gary Barlow- 28th Nov 21
    Madness- 29th Nov 21
    James- 1st Dec 21
    Elton John- 3rd/4th Dec 21
    Versatile- 5th Dec 21
    Michael Ball and Alfie Boe- 6th Dec 21

    A few of those would not be full sell outs and they could spread people around. Who knows really what the world will be like by mid July never mind the Autumn. Id be over the ****ing moon if any of those events (particularly the ones i have tickets for) happened as scheduled


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    The way I see it is that all this funding is there to help promoters/musicians over the final hurlde until the majority of us are fully vacinnated. Once we hit over the 80% then there should be no reason for social distancing or restrictions at gigs. So I'd say from Oct onwards the gigs already on sale should be fine, maybe some sort of testing but apart from that I can't see anything else in the way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭hkjohn


    Much as I would love be wrong and be able to start going back to gigs, cannot see any way that any will happen this year.

    Forgetting social distancing, vaccination rates and variants, etc, etc, for a moment, I think the one factor everyone is over looking
    is that artists are going to need to play a lot more countries than just Ireland if touring is going to be financially viable for them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,511 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009



    Great news no doubt

    I wonder is this given clarification that big mass gatherings will be kicking off from then on, ruling out indoor gigs scheduled for August/September


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,039 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭Accidentally


    Any news on Michael kiwanuka at trinity? Ticketmaster still selling tickets but it's only 3 weeks away?

    Was cancelled yesterday. They're looking to reschedule, but no dates yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,826 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,646 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Penfailed wrote: »

    It looks like the proper Stendhal Festival is going ahead in July and another one in August. I've tickets for the August one. Here's the lineup for July -

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CQRI7wRna_P/?utm_medium=copy_link

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES(x2), And So I Watch You From Afar



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    from Body & Soul on Facebook 4 hours ago. TL;DR Cancelled until 2022.

    "Reflecting on a solstice weekend that could have been, the celebrations not far in our future and a decade of days spent in Ballinlough with you!
    While it tugs at our heartstrings to miss out on another year of Body&Soul, we expect our patience will be rewarded with a reunion for the ages in 2022.
    From the tops and bottoms of all of our hearts, thank you to everyone who attended, contributed, shaped, danced and laughed at Body & Soul throughout the years.
    You’re the reason why we’ll raise our glasses this weekend, and the reason why we’ll return to Body&Soul to do it all over again.
    Until we meet again, raise your flag!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Biffy Clyro just rescheduled there European tour to 2022
    'With the ongoing uncertainty around travel restrictions, we have made the decision to postpone our upcoming European tour until February/March 2022.'

    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=357655072385069&set=a.304167411067169

    Reckon this same fate will hit a lot of tours that are scheduled for Autumn/Winter 2021. Elton John has a major tour announcement tomorrow although it states 'Elton’s final ever tour returns to the road this autumn' im still not overly confident esp with so many dates all over Europe/UK and Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,511 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Biffy Clyro just rescheduled there European tour to 2022
    'With the ongoing uncertainty around travel restrictions, we have made the decision to postpone our upcoming European tour until February/March 2022.'

    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=357655072385069&set=a.304167411067169

    Reckon this same fate will hit a lot of tours that are scheduled for Autumn/Winter 2021. Elton John has a major tour announcement tomorrow although it states 'Elton’s final ever tour returns to the road this autumn' im still not overly confident esp with so many dates all over Europe/UK and Ireland

    It's really those older artists that I worry I'll never see now. Also had tickets for Santana and Jeff Lynne over the last 18 month which were cancelled and I reckon they'll never come again :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,826 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭corm500


    Retro Festival Ireland postponed to next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,826 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Westlife gigs in Pairc Ui Caoimh in August postponed to next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Westlife gigs in Pairc Ui Caoimh in August postponed to next year.

    Suppose that was to be expected but doesn't look good for other shows here in 2021

    With the panic of this new variant, it's not good


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,826 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Suppose that was to be expected but doesn't look good for other shows here in 2021

    With the panic of this new variant, it's not good

    Agree, it doesn't. Hard to see how gigs that size could go ahead indoors in September and October but maybe increased vaccination might make a difference.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Suppose that was to be expected but doesn't look good for other shows here in 2021

    With the panic of this new variant, it's not good

    Id say once we have the 80% or over fully vaccinated we will just have to live with covid and any further variants, I will agree any gigs outdoor or indoor will no a go for the rest of the summer (excluding the pilot or social distance shows) but by September/Oct all going well after that we should be able to have indoor shows.
    I feel the big panic on the new variant is because we(or the majority of the world) havent gotten to herd immunity yet as it has been proven if you have your 2 jabs or 1 J&J you are fine but until then we still have to be cautious as we are as so close to the finish line at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,926 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Rescheduled - Elbow's upcoming Irish shows will now happen in June 2022. Original tickets remain valid for new dates - https://bit.ly/35Qatq7
    3Arena - 20 June 2022
    Waterfront Hall & Ulster Hall - 21 June 2022


    Slowly August/September 2021 shows are starting to get rescheduled to 2022 :(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,826 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Rescheduled - Elbow's upcoming Irish shows will now happen in June 2022. Original tickets remain valid for new dates - https://bit.ly/35Qatq7
    3Arena - 20 June 2022
    Waterfront Hall & Ulster Hall - 21 June 2022


    Slowly August/September 2021 shows are starting to get rescheduled to 2022 :(:(

    When was it meant to be happening?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Eod100 wrote: »
    When was it meant to be happening?

    August sometime


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