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    #812
    nice_guy80
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    It would be more logical to put South Roscommon from a line between Lecarrow and Ballinasloe into Westmeath and amalgamate South Leitrim with North Roscommon and Amalgamate North Leitrim with Sligo.

    I doubt any business owner in Roscommon would want any change considering the rates are much lower in the county than Westmeath


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    #813
    BrianBoru00
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    It would be more logical to put South Roscommon from a line between Lecarrow and Ballinasloe into Westmeath and amalgamate South Leitrim with North Roscommon and Amalgamate North Leitrim with Sligo.

    Jaysus this is the worst of some daft posts you've made on this thread.

    Westmeath county council has been in charge of Connacht street and the demise from a thriving thoroughfare to a ghost town and you think giving them control over a much wider area is a good idea ? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #814
    White lighting
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    It would be more logical to put South Roscommon from a line between Lecarrow and Ballinasloe into Westmeath and amalgamate South Leitrim with North Roscommon and Amalgamate North Leitrim with Sligo.


    {SNIP} Abuse removed.


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    #815
    Mearings
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    It would be more logical to put South Roscommon from a line between Lecarrow and Ballinasloe into Westmeath and amalgamate South Leitrim with North Roscommon and Amalgamate North Leitrim with Sligo.


    Too many County Councils. A system imposed on us by the Normans and perpetuated by the GAA.


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    #816
    BrianBoru00
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    There's no difference between county councils and city councils. Should we also jettison the English language that was imposed upon us?

    Where there's a will, there's a way. There's plenty of scope to have a city council spanning both counties with representatives of both and a clear plan on how to expand both east and west. and Offaly coco could also have representative.

    Co operation is what is required but Athlone is not suffering because part of Roscommon is not under the auspices of Westmeath coco. The opposite in fact as per Connaught Street.


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    #817
    veryangryman
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    BrianBoru00 wrote: »
    There's no difference between county councils and city councils. Should we also jettison the English language that was imposed upon us?

    Where there's a will, there's a way. There's plenty of scope to have a city council spanning both counties with representatives of both and a clear plan on how to expand both east and west. and Offaly coco could also have representative.

    Co operation is what is required but Athlone is not suffering because part of Roscommon is not under the auspices of Westmeath coco. The opposite in fact as per Connaught Street.

    Connaught Street thrived when there was horse and cart running through it. The street is narrow and all approaches to it are on inclines. The demise of the irish pub industry has also pushed it out as has ghettoising the neighbouring estates to discourage people to live nearby. Growth of Golden Island and TownCentre means that it has far more competition for the shopping buck too.

    I cant really blame that on Westmeath Coco. Anything gov related e.g housing was national policy and they were puppets of same.


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    #818
    BrianBoru00
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    veryangryman wrote: »
    Connaught Street thrived when there was horse and cart running through it. The street is narrow and all approaches to it are on inclines. The demise of the irish pub industry has also pushed it out as has ghettoising the neighbouring estates to discourage people to live nearby. Growth of Golden Island and TownCentre means that it has far more competition for the shopping buck too.

    I cant really blame that on Westmeath Coco. Anything gov related e.g housing was national policy and they were puppets of same.

    so did other streets.


    This is exactly the point being made.
    Westmeath Coco basically wanted to land grab the location of the highest rate payers in the neighbouring county with absolutely no intention of benefitting that location with resultant services.
    In fact if there was to be a re drawing of the boundaries I would suggest Roscommon coco taking over Athlone to the original boundary of the river and allow both sides to thrive.

    But a more realistic option is to sit down together and form a greater Athlone development plan outlining the inputs required from both councils and the respective responsibilities.


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    #819
    pawrick
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    BrianBoru00 wrote: »
    Jaysus this is the worst of some daft posts you've made on this thread.

    Westmeath county council has been in charge of Connacht street and the demise from a thriving thoroughfare to a ghost town and you think giving them control over a much wider area is a good idea ? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    We had our own town council until recently, they weren't up to much either as far as the west side was concerned.

    imo another solution which could potentially better balance the midlands and west midlands would be to extend the Roscommon border around Athlone.
    At the moment Athlone loses out due to rivalry with Mullingar which like it or not is a town of similar population and so similar representation in the council. Athlone as the main commercial/industrial town in Roscommon could benefit Roscommon co co and the town itself via more rates available to roscommon + a larger population, while Athlone would be unified under one local area allowing for better focus on it's own growth without the impediments it experiences at the moment.


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    #820
    pawrick
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    Wasn't Connaught street also meant to be widened with shops such as dooleys bought up only to be later sold for apartment development and thus loosing the opportunity to widen it? could be wrong on this but i thought that was the plan back in the mid 90's.


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    #821
    veryangryman
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    Anyone notice the amount of overlooking Athlone has been getting with live gigs recently?

    I see alot of nationwide tours from bands who dodge the midlands like the plague. Places of similar or even smaller populations like Wexford, Killarney, Sligo getting them.

    I'm personally blaming it on a lack of taste in the majority of locals here (which would put promoters off naturally) but what gives?

    Radison is a grand venue for it. Saw Stunning and Jimmy Carr last year. Has dried up recently barring country music type crahp


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    #822
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    veryangryman wrote: »
    Anyone notice the amount of overlooking Athlone has been getting with live gigs recently?

    I see alot of nationwide tours from bands who dodge the midlands like the plague. Places of similar or even smaller populations like Wexford, Killarney, Sligo getting them.

    I'm personally blaming it on a lack of taste in the majority of locals here (which would put promoters off naturally) but what gives?

    Radison is a grand venue for it. Saw Stunning and Jimmy Carr last year. Has dried up recently barring country music type crahp

    Nobody is booking them locally. Lack of venues.


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    #823
    Smashmouth
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    Christy Moore soon. Although I understand he's not everyone's cup of tea.


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    #824
    4ensic15
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    I says wrote: »
    Are you saying we should liquidate Leitrim altogether?

    Yes. It has to population of a town. It shouldn't be a county.


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    #825
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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    Yeah it's definitely something the town or wider region is badly missing is a proper venue for gigs for the likes of bands or acts that can draw even a couple of thousand people. It doesn't need to be the Three Arena. You'd think somewhere around Athlone or even Portlaoise would be ideally placed for such a facility.


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    #826
    veryangryman
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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »
    Yeah it's definitely something the town or wider region is badly missing is a proper venue for gigs for the likes of bands or acts that can draw even a couple of thousand people. It doesn't need to be the Three Arena. You'd think somewhere around Athlone or even Portlaoise would be ideally placed for such a facility.

    Plenty of facilities if used right. Both big hotels can host several hundred. Athlone town stadium for outdoor gig(s). With the plethora of festivals nationwide its like theyre allergic to landlocked counties


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    #827
    White lighting
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    Didn't Mcdonagh want to build an arena out the Dublin rd a few years ago which would have been excellent for the town. But due to a couple of clowns it couldn't get planning and never went ahead


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    #828
    4ensic15
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    White lighting wrote: »
    Didn't Mcdonagh want to build an arena out the Dublin rd a few years ago which would have been excellent for the town. But due to a couple of clowns it couldn't get planning and never went ahead

    Anything that is any good will get planning.


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    #829
    demanufactured
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    Anything that is any good will get planning.

    Like apple in Athenry?


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    #830
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    AFAIK that was scrapped in favour of the upgrade to the Point Theatre.

    The "Athlone is central and should get more" argument died when the Motorway Network to Dublin was built. Dublin is now central in terms of journey times from most places due to it.

    Of course with Dub overheating and packed out now, perhaps something midlands should be looked at venues-wise.


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    #831
    4ensic15
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    demanufactured wrote: »
    Like apple in Athenry?

    It got planning.


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    #832
    demanufactured
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    It got planning.

    Actually you are correct, my mistake.


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    #833
    White lighting
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    Anything that is any good will get planning.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/250m-leisure-complex-planned-for-athlone-1.1170789


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    #834
    Smashmouth
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    Once we get the international airport built we can fly in those Chinese lads to build their Chinese mega-city out at Kilmartin's. They might throw in a concert venue as well.


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    #835
    4ensic15
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    White lighting wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/250m-leisure-complex-planned-for-athlone-1.1170789

    Your point being?


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    #836
    cena
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    Bring a pro ice hockey and rink to Athlone. It would be different


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    #837
    demanufactured
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    cena wrote: »
    Bring a pro ice hockey and rink to Athlone. It would be different

    Is there a demand for it?


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    #838
    cena
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    I would say there is a demand. Plenty of people would enjoy watching the games.

    I myself play the game and have to travel from Galway to Belfast to play.


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    #839
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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    cena wrote: »
    I would say there is a demand. Plenty of people would enjoy watching the games.

    I myself play the game and have to travel from Galway to Belfast to play.

    I've been to a Belfast Giants game up there and it's a great evening out. If you were to do it down south it'd probably need to be Dublin though. You'd need a fair critical mass to get 5,000 rocking up to those games every week or 2.


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    #840
    nice_guy80
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    cena wrote: »
    I would say there is a demand. Plenty of people would enjoy watching the games.

    I myself play the game and have to travel from Galway to Belfast to play.

    I wouldn't go into the back garden to watch it.
    And i've been to blackhawk games in the states


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    #841
    charlieIRL
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    White lighting wrote: »
    Didn't Mcdonagh want to build an arena out the Dublin rd a few years ago which would have been excellent for the town. But due to a couple of clowns it couldn't get planning and never went ahead

    I remember seeing the plans for that back at the time, was more than just a venue for a concert, I think there was a hotel and shops planned.


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