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05-03-2020, 13:41   #61
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It doesn't have to be said so often.

I didn't start the thread reminding everyone.
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05-03-2020, 13:43   #62
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when have SF ever claimed to be the oldest political party in ireland then?
right here

https://www.friendsofsinnfein.com/about/


"We are the agent in the United States for Sinn Féin, Ireland's oldest political party (www.sinnfein.ie).

selling a line of lies to Americans might account for some of the money I guess
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Why has the media nothing to say about the fact that Mary Lou owns a second home in France?

Wouldn't do her "Woman of the people" act any favours now would it.

She probably knows she has a better chance of becoming president of France than becoming Taoiseach!
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right here

https://www.friendsofsinnfein.com/about/


"We are the agent in the United States for Sinn Féin, Ireland's oldest political party (www.sinnfein.ie).

selling a line of lies to Americans might account for some of the money I guess

Splits or no splits or whatever you want to call it Sinn Fein are the oldest party in Ireland (est. 1905). What's your big hang up about this?
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Splits or no splits or whatever you want to call it Sinn Fein are the oldest party in Ireland (est. 1905). What's your big hang up about this?
I was replying to a request for proof that sf were claiming something that is not true , from another shinnerbot .


lies in politics should always be called out imo


the fgff mafia have a lot more to do with the SF of 1905 that the OCG that is SF today.

I get the feeling that you cant see that at all
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05-03-2020, 13:55   #66
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I’ve no idea how he made his money but he went from being a former unemployed convict living in a council house to owning and running many cash based businesses.
Is there something wrong with a cash based business???

Is there something wrong with someone working their way up to running a business.

Because I am both and I want to ask you why you are insinuating that someone who runs a cash based business is doing something illegal?
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Is there something wrong with a cash based business???

Is there something wrong with someone working their way up to running a business.

Because I am both and I want to ask you why you are insinuating that someone who runs a cash based business is doing something illegal?
did you do time of terrorism offences too ? just for a fair comparison like lol
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I was replying to a request for proof that sf were claiming something that is not true , from another shinnerbot .


lies in politics should always be called out imo


the fgff mafia have a lot more to do with the SF of 1905 that the OCG that is SF today.

I get the feeling that you cant see that at all

FF formed in mid 1920s to enter Government. FG formed in the 1930s as a loose amalgamation of various factions (in a desperate attempt to have some sort of 'founding father' hilariously connected themselves to Michael Collins who was dead by a good 15 years...better optics than the fascist Blue Shirts I suppose).

So the FF/FG of today more connected to SF of 1905? That is interesting...let's compare the 1905 manifesto with the FF/FG manifesto of today.

Whether you like it or not and spin it all you like but Sinn Fein has been in existence since 1905.
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This has nothing to do with FG. It’s asking where SF gets the money to own 50 properties and employ 200 people. Very valid questions to ask. They promised new politics. This smells very old.
Ya right. Suddenly establishment party voters give a toss about corruption
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What are the 200 employees doing and why didn’t some of them run for the Dail considering they let folks like your one in Clare and your man in Tipperary run for them?

200 people - that’s more full time employees than the Conservative or Labour parties in Britain.

Something not right here. Hope the Irish Times keep digging - like the media should.
We will never know nor will it be investigated how many employees FG have as they pay their staff cash under the counter.

The great "investigative" journalists in the ITs "missed" that scoop.

This is another smear from the IT as they ran the same king of articles before the last elections for three days running featuring on the first 3-5 pages each morning.
Was waiting each day for the big scoop but nothing and even on the last day nothing,they actually had to admit that the SF fund in America releases more information that they have to and that their accounts are way more open than FF/FG.
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Likely robbing banks Johnny or kidnap ransoms and the like.

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ah the irish times such a source of unbiased reporting when it comes to the shinners
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1. Corona Virus.
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3.Corona virus
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5. Brexit

TBF RTE have nothing on the shinners. And their number 3 is on FF saying they'll go in with FG. That news worthy.
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did you do time of terrorism offences too ? just for a fair comparison like lol
I know you are a neo Unionist/Loyalist but I didn't think the makey uppey Ni Scotch Gaelic was your first language.

English down here please.
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FF formed in mid 1920s to enter Government. FG formed in the 1930s as a loose amalgamation of various factions (in a desperate attempt to have some sort of 'founding father' hilariously connected themselves to Michael Collins who was dead by a good 15 years...better optics than the fascist Blue Shirts I suppose).

So the FF/FG of today more connected to SF of 1905? That is interesting...let's compare the 1905 manifesto with the FF/FG manifesto of today.

Whether you like it or not and spin it all you like but Sinn Fein has been in existence since 1905.
your ignoring the facts again but that not surprising

FF formed by devala who left the original sf to do so

FG formed by o duffy who was also a former original SF td

where as the SF that you are supporting was formed in 1970 from the group using the name "Original SF " (OFFICAL )

for a party who rely so much on history SF are hilariously bad at it.

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We will never know nor will it be investigated how many employees FG have as they pay their staff cash under the counter.
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Really?
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I know you are a neo Unionist/Loyalist but I didn't think the makey uppey Ni Scotch Gaelic was your first language.

English down here please.
that's your reply tom ? really ?

ye are even running out of ways to deflect.

didn't think you'd be as big a fan of the Queens English though lol
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