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January 2020 Recruitment.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 SausageDog33


    MrChew wrote: »
    Same and same.

    Just got word I passed my vetting and all - three weeks on the button.

    Great news! I'm still waiting nervously


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    CoAntrim24 wrote: »
    Congratulations mate - another step down. Did you pass the vetting as part of this recruitment campaign?

    The 2002 campaign, yeah.


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    Great news! I'm still waiting nervously

    I was really surprised it completed so soon. Things are starting to feel very real!


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Wyl91


    No vetting my end yet but got the learning. Think that’s a positive sign they want to progress quickly but just depends on vetting I guess.


  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭mariyapsni


    Wyl91 wrote: »
    No vetting my end yet but got the learning. Think that’s a positive sign they want to progress quickly but just depends on vetting I guess.

    Good for you, lucky you, fast-trackers. I wonder why don't they process us, the ordinary, not fast-tracked poor souls, quickly as well and at least tell us the results from our A/C, so that they can progress us quickly :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 PSNIhopeful1


    This might be being very hopeful (hence the name!) But I think the first batch of fast trackers could be on track to start in January.

    PCAs soon, online learning sent out early and my medical was only 2 weeks after pca in 1710, so it could be the same this time.

    If all that is done, we could get notice of appointability at the end of November, induction in December and start 4 weeks later in January. Fingers crossed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Columbo1234


    I am fast track group 2 who were notified of fast track last Friday and I also got online learning today. No sign of vetting forms or PCA date yet but maybe by the end of the week. Things feel like they are going fast.

    I feel for those still waiting on results and AC. Hang in there folks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Klaus2020


    MrChew wrote: »
    Same and same.

    Just got word I passed my vetting and all - three weeks on the button.

    Congrats! Week 7 and counting...


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 Newbieee


    I would be very surprised if any FT start before Feb.

    Good to see they are moving things pretty quickly though!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭SMS19


    Newbieee wrote: »
    I would be very surprised if any FT start before Feb.

    Good to see they are moving things pretty quickly though!

    I would agree with February at the earliest . December calls have already gone out and there are still a lot of people in 1810 who would be offered a place first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 RustInPeace90


    Hi folks, couple of queries if anyone can set my mind at ease:

    1) Missed the PCA familiarisation due to work commitments. Would someone mind posting the top tips or helpful info they received on the day from the people running the event.

    2) Medical - If someone could explain the eye test in detail, namely the bare minimum to pass. My good eye is 20/20, my bad eye can't read the fourth row down and I don't wear glasses or contacts. Also what else does the medical entail? I know there's a list on pg. 38 of the applicant guidance but it's vague. I don't smoke or drink or have ever taken drugs so those aspects I'm not worried about.

    Sorry if I've asked info that's already been doled out, just have some anxieties about the unknowns. Can't wait for all this to be over frankly!


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 CMAG90


    So have the online learning to do... just wondering if it makes a difference to submit the cert for this sooner? Can't imagine it taking me the 4 weeks to go through it... if I submit next week will it allow the next stage to come quicker or not... thanks 😊


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Wyl91


    Hi folks, couple of queries if anyone can set my mind at ease:

    1) Missed the PCA familiarisation due to work commitments. Would someone mind posting the top tips or helpful info they received on the day from the people running the event.

    2) Medical - If someone could explain the eye test in detail, namely the bare minimum to pass. My good eye is 20/20, my bad eye can't read the fourth row down and I don't wear glasses or contacts. Also what else does the medical entail? I know there's a list on pg. 38 of the applicant guidance but it's vague. I don't smoke or drink or have ever taken drugs so those aspects I'm not worried about.

    Sorry if I've asked info that's already been doled out, just have some anxieties about the unknowns. Can't wait for all this to be over frankly!


    Hey sorry I haven’t got much advice about the medical as I don’t know!

    My fam day we were just told it’s a max effort test so give it stacks all the way round.

    On the day you’ll get a chance to see the course and have a go on anything before the actual test so don’t be worrying about that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 Newbieee


    At 4 minutes 30 everyone should pass the PCA. No training would be required for it tbh.

    Put it this way I went sub 3 minutes and I don’t go to the gym or work out. There’s a video on YouTube outlining the course which is handy though

    The medical is very in-depth and the do check quite a few things from lung capacity to urine samples. I think you have to achieve the top 4/5 lines on the chart each eye unaided and the both together. In short it differs from person to person but if you’re over a -2.00 in each eye you could struggle


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 RustInPeace90


    Newbieee wrote: »
    At 4 minutes 30 everyone should pass the PCA. No training would be required for it tbh.

    Put it this way I went sub 3 minutes and I don’t go to the gym or work out. There’s a video on YouTube outlining the course which is handy though

    The medical is very in-depth and the do check quite a few things from lung capacity to urine samples. I think you have to achieve the top 4/5 lines on the chart each eye unaided and the both together. In short it differs from person to person but if you’re over a -2.00 in each eye you could struggle

    Do they let you know during the medical if you’ve failed the eye test etc? I know obviously the SMT has to be sent away etc but will the doctor let you know then and there if for example your eyesight is too poor for your application to progress?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 SausageDog33


    CMAG90 wrote: »
    So have the online learning to do... just wondering if it makes a difference to submit the cert for this sooner? Can't imagine it taking me the 4 weeks to go through it... if I submit next week will it allow the next stage to come quicker or not... thanks 😊

    I've done mine and sent it off, its just another thing out the way with now. Won't mean anything else will be faster.


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 Newbieee


    Do they let you know during the medical if you’ve failed the eye test etc? I know obviously the SMT has to be sent away etc but will the doctor let you know then and there if for example your eyesight is too poor for your application to progress?

    Usually a few days to a week later. May differ for this campaign though


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    Do they let you know during the medical if you’ve failed the eye test etc? I know obviously the SMT has to be sent away etc but will the doctor let you know then and there if for example your eyesight is too poor for your application to progress?

    I don't think they do, you'll wait a few days.

    However, the standards are there in black and white- why not take them along to an optician and see what they say? And if you don't meet the standard as is, then what might be done to help you. No point going into the medical with such a big question mark hanging over your head.

    You need to be able to read down to the bottom of the Snellen chart with both eyes, with one eye able to make it to at least the second last line, and the other the fourth last line. If you wear glasses, you need to be able to read the top two lines without glasses with both eyes, then the above standard with your glasses on.

    They ask you to read the chart six times if you wear glasses, three if you don't. Once with each eye and once with both eyes, then repeated with glasses on if you wear them. It's a changing chart so you arent doing the same letters each time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Wyl91


    Deffo advise going to your optician. I’ve went to get eyes tested and hearing done to make sure I meet the requirements. Saves any extra worry!


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    Newbieee wrote: »
    The medical is very in-depth and the do check quite a few things from lung capacity to urine samples. I think you have to achieve the top 4/5 lines on the chart each eye unaided and the both together. In short it differs from person to person but if you’re over a -2.00 in each eye you could struggle

    Do you still need to strip down to your keks at the end of the medical?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 RoboCop123


    Hey everyone, I received my fast track email last Friday. Does anyone have a rough idea when they expect medicals to take place? Also, good luck to everyone and those waiting for their AC, wishing you all the best!


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Columbo1234


    RoboCop123 wrote: »
    Hey everyone, I received my fast track email last Friday. Does anyone have a rough idea when they expect medicals to take place? Also, good luck to everyone and those waiting for their AC, wishing you all the best!

    I’m thinking we might get our vetting forms tomorrow or Monday and then a PCA date shortly after maybe for early December ish. If we pass PCA my guess is Medicals could be just before or just after Christmas.

    November and December is going to be like a rocky montage between training and dieting for me. Roll on January lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Marcus767


    Hi all,

    Big of a long winded one but I’m at my wits end with anxiety about the next stages.

    Found out I was fast tracked last week and was buzzing to say the least. Did a bit more research into the next stages specifically the medical/SMT

    I’m not sure if I’ve been naive or just bloody stupid on this matter but long story short I hurt myself in the gym just over a month ago. My mother who has also a damaged shoulder gave me some painkiller medication to take for the pain these were codiene 30mg says on the pack. Took them few weeks on and off, saw a physio and got a few sports massages and I was then dead on. Back up and training no issue and no need to take painkillers.

    Now from what I’m reading and I’m no chemistry buff but codiene falls into an opiate bracket! Now I’m pure Kecking myself. Should I see my dr to back me up? Will I fail a drug test? Has this ruined my chances. Feel sick with worry so any advice would be appreciated.

    TIA Marcus


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    Marcus767 wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Big of a long winded one but I’m at my wits end with anxiety about the next stages.

    Found out I was fast tracked last week and was buzzing to say the least. Did a bit more research into the next stages specifically the medical/SMT

    I’m not sure if I’ve been naive or just bloody stupid on this matter but long story short I hurt myself in the gym just over a month ago. My mother who has also a damaged shoulder gave me some painkiller medication to take for the pain these were codiene 30mg says on the pack. Took them few weeks on and off, saw a physio and got a few sports massages and I was then dead on. Back up and training no issue and no need to take painkillers.

    Now from what I’m reading and I’m no chemistry buff but codiene falls into an opiate bracket! Now I’m pure Kecking myself. Should I see my dr to back me up? Will I fail a drug test? Has this ruined my chances. Feel sick with worry so any advice would be appreciated.

    TIA Marcus

    They ask you to list pretty much everything that you are taking, both medications and supplements. You're not going to get binned over a medication that can be obtained over the counter, albeit at lower doses. Just declare it and you'll be grand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Marcus767


    MrChew wrote: »
    They ask you to list pretty much everything that you are taking, both medications and supplements. You're not going to get binned over a medication that can be obtained over the counter, albeit at lower doses. Just declare it and you'll be grand.


    Thank you Mr chew. You’re a beacon of knowledge mate really appreciate you taking the time.

    I may go look at my supplements etc lol I want to be ready! This whole process makes you doubt yourself like I would never take anything illegal ever or misuse anything so I’m hoping that’s clear.

    Appreciate it again mate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    Marcus767 wrote: »
    Thank you Mr chew. You’re a beacon of knowledge mate really appreciate you taking the time.

    I may go look at my supplements etc lol I want to be ready! This whole process makes you doubt yourself like I would never take anything illegal ever or misuse anything so I’m hoping that’s clear.

    Appreciate it again mate.

    No worries, this process drives you to distraction. Good luck with the next stages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Belfast86


    Drug screening

    Drug screening refers to the analysis of biological materials to detect the presence or absence of drugs within the human body.

    The process involves samples of hair being collected and analysed to determine whether any of the following six core substances are present

    Cannabinoids (cannabis)
    Amphetamines (including ecstasy)
    Cocaine
    Opiates (eg. morphine and heroin)
    Benzodazepines
    Methamphetamines
    Before this you will be required to complete a consent form to confirm that

    you consent to the screening taking place
    you accept that a positive screening will be recorded on your medical file (if applicable)
    you have declared if you have taken any medicines within the period relevant to the history
    you consent to results (positive or negative) being passed onto the Resourcing department team responsible for your application
    you understand that a positive result could affect a successful application.


    ——-

    Assuming your medical isn’t going to be this side of Christmas. If you still have other stages to complete. Anyway a quick google search will show you what the active life of codine is

    Codeine can be detected for up to 48 hours in urine, 21 hours in saliva, and 10 weeks in hair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Marcus767


    Belfast86 wrote: »
    Drug screening

    Drug screening refers to the analysis of biological materials to detect the presence or absence of drugs within the human body.

    The process involves samples of hair being collected and analysed to determine whether any of the following six core substances are present

    Cannabinoids (cannabis)
    Amphetamines (including ecstasy)
    Cocaine
    Opiates (eg. morphine and heroin)
    Benzodazepines
    Methamphetamines
    Before this you will be required to complete a consent form to confirm that

    you consent to the screening taking place
    you accept that a positive screening will be recorded on your medical file (if applicable)
    you have declared if you have taken any medicines within the period relevant to the history
    you consent to results (positive or negative) being passed onto the Resourcing department team responsible for your application
    you understand that a positive result could affect a successful application.


    ——-

    Assuming your medical isn’t going to be this side of Christmas. If you still have other stages to complete. Anyway a quick google search will show you what the active life of codine is

    Codeine can be detected for up to 48 hours in urine, 21 hours in saliva, and 10 weeks in hair.


    Hey. I did do a google search and found a lot of different opinions many stating 90days being more the norm for retention.

    Are you suggesting then this would be a cause for concern for me? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Klaus2020


    Marcus767 wrote: »
    Hey. I did do a google search and found a lot of different opinions many stating 90days being more the norm for retention.

    Are you suggesting then this would be a cause for concern for me? Thanks

    I'm sure its looking to find anything over and above a regular prescribed dose. You just state you have taken it so that the ingredient might show up and they know its been declared.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Marcus767


    Klaus2020 wrote: »
    I'm sure its looking to find anything over and above a regular prescribed dose. You just state you have taken it so that the ingredient might show up and they know its been declared.


    Yeah that’s what I’m hoping because I never took anything beyond a regular dose and won’t be taking anymore so hoping just being open about then it will be okay. I think I was worrying it’s presence alone would be cause for concern


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  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭sharon1986


    Marcus767 wrote: »
    Yeah that’s what I’m hoping because I never took anything beyond a regular dose and won’t be taking anymore so hoping just being open about then it will be okay. I think I was worrying it’s presence alone would be cause for concern

    Wouldnt be worried at all unless you have been abusing them! Recommended dosage will be fine and as long as u declare uv taken them and what for


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Marcus767


    sharon1986 wrote: »
    Wouldnt be worried at all unless you have been abusing them! Recommended dosage will be fine and as long as u declare uv taken them and what for


    Thank you Sharon that helps ease my mind. Such a worrying process you just don’t want anything slipping you up when you’ve got this far. Thank you


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Belfast86


    Marcus767 wrote: »
    Hey. I did do a google search and found a lot of different opinions many stating 90days being more the norm for retention.

    Are you suggesting then this would be a cause for concern for me? Thanks

    No concern at all. One your medical probably won’t be this side off Christmas which means the codine will be out of your system. Two it’s not like you are abusing the medication. It was used for injury rehabilitation which you openly state when you declare your medication.

    The biggest issue is you not declaring and it coming up. If your open about it all it shows your integrity to the situation.

    In all honest if you were taking the low end of prescribed dosage it will more than likely be out of your system by medical.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 RoboCop123


    Great information surrounding the SMT. Does anyone know if there is a cut-off limit for the test? My concern being, I was outside a shop recently and a couple of young people were clearly smoking a joint. The smell was very strong and I was close by for a few minutes and my concern being could the secondhand smoke show up on the SMT? I don't touch or use any drugs whatsoever.

    Apologise if I'm coming across as extremely paranoid.

    Thanks everyone


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    RoboCop123 wrote: »
    Great information surrounding the SMT. Does anyone know if there is a cut-off limit for the test? My concern being, I was outside a shop recently and a couple of young people were clearly smoking a joint. The smell was very strong and I was close by for a few minutes and my concern being could the secondhand smoke show up on the SMT? I don't touch or use any drugs whatsoever.

    Apologise if I'm coming across as extremely paranoid.

    Thanks everyone

    This came up on the Medical thread iirc and I think the general consensus was that there was no way in hell that would show up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 RoboCop123


    MrChew wrote: »
    This came up on the Medical thread iirc and I think the general consensus was that there was no way in hell that would show up.

    Exactly the reply I wanted to hear, thanks pal - apologises if I sounded like a fruitcake lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    RoboCop123 wrote: »
    Exactly the reply I wanted to hear, thanks pal - apologises if I sounded like a fruitcake lol.

    Like I've said, if this process doesn't turn you into a fruitcake, nothing will. It's an indicator of how much you want it - if you weren't arsed, you wouldn't be freaking out at this sort of thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    For SMT they ask what you have taken in the last 3 months, as others have said for painkillers you will be fine as long as you weren't overdoing them. Declare everything and you will be 100% I even declared Lemsip that I thought I had taken 3 months before lol
    There was somebody else that was worried that some strangers smoking cannabis near them would get them a fail but they passed so don't worry about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Marcus767


    NornIron74 wrote: »
    For SMT they ask what you have taken in the last 3 months, as others have said for painkillers you will be fine as long as you weren't overdoing them. Declare everything and you will be 100% I even declared Lemsip that I thought I had taken 3 months before lol
    There was somebody else that was worried that some strangers smoking cannabis near them would get them a fail but they passed so don't worry about it.


    Thanks guys. Feeling much more confident now! Appreciate you all taking the time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Klaus2020


    MrChew wrote: »
    Same and same.

    Just got word I passed my vetting and all - three weeks on the button.

    For the vetting process did this show up on your credit report? I'm keeping an eye out but not sure if it will show or not


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭MrChew


    Klaus2020 wrote: »
    For the vetting process did this show up on your credit report? I'm keeping an eye out but not sure if it will show or not

    I've no idea - not currently signed up with xperian or the like!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    Klaus2020 wrote: »
    For the vetting process did this show up on your credit report? I'm keeping an eye out but not sure if it will show or not

    Yes it will show up as ACPO police vetting, wasn't until week 8 for me


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 Newbieee


    For the Vetting it will show on your Experian Account.

    For the SMT make sure you declare everything you have taken within the time frame. If they find something in your system and you haven’t declared it you’re straight out. Also if you’ve taken prescribed medication that wasn’t for you you are a straight fail.
    Cannot emphasise enough about declaring everything, too many candidates have failed for not declaring something


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Wyl91


    This is all v helpful as I had been worrying about taking OTC painkillers a number of times the last month or so as I also did a number on my shoulder trying to get PCA fit. A lot of good info this process is deffo a melt a times lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Si_zx10r


    I'm guessing there's still no update for the guys that have been postponed? Is it possible for a result on whether you've passed or failed the a/c on 4th December without giving a placement until everyone has attended?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 SausageDog33


    Si_zx10r wrote: »
    I'm guessing there's still no update for the guys that have been postponed? Is it possible for a result on whether you've passed or failed the a/c on 4th December without giving a placement until everyone has attended?

    Potentially, everything is possible this year!


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Si_zx10r


    Suppose we can live in hope lol been a long haul so far for everyone and can't imagine the frustration/worry for anyone who hasn't attended as yet. I think everyone who has attended should already have a score against their name, would be good to know either way if we've passed or not come 4th December. Nearly 10 months of hanging in there lol not really bothered about how long the remaining stages are away, just hoping for good news on a/c


  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭mariyapsni


    Si_zx10r wrote: »
    Suppose we can live in hope lol been a long haul so far for everyone and can't imagine the frustration/worry for anyone who hasn't attended as yet. I think everyone who has attended should already have a score against their name, would be good to know either way if we've passed or not come 4th December. Nearly 10 months of hanging in there lol not really bothered about how long the remaining stages are away, just hoping for good news on a/c

    Very well said Si_zx10r! I also think that the recruiters should have already assessed us, the people who already attended A/C like more than a month ago. It seems that the following stages are quick enough as the police managed stages seem to be very efficiently managed. Let's just hope that we will soon get the good news! Good luck everyone :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Columbo1234


    Vetting forms arrived this morning. Not bad. Hopefully get them sent away ASAP.
    How soon after arrival of vetting forms did the first fast track group get their PCA date through and will it come
    by email or post?


  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭sharon1986


    Vetting forms arrived this morning. Not bad. Hopefully get them sent away ASAP.
    How soon after arrival of vetting forms did the first fast track group get their PCA date through and will it come
    by email or post?

    By email, around a week later. Ul probably get it this week id say


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