Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

The Enbalmer · 23-05-2019 11:24am

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

We already have armed gardai and rapid response teams etc, if we armed all gardai the criminals will just arrive with better weapons and shootouts will happen and gardai will be killed.

if we don't arm them more gardai are likely to be killed..crime is only going one way in this country..we're not quite a succesor to London yet but we might soon be a Bradford,for example.

El_Bee · 23-05-2019 11:31am

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

We already have armed gardai and rapid response teams etc, if we armed all gardai the criminals will just arrive with better weapons and shootouts will happen and gardai will be killed.

That only happens in really really corrupt nations like Mexico and maybe Brazil, if we continue on with that logic why have police at all? they only upset the criminals with their presence.

Hoboo · 23-05-2019 11:36am

realdanbreen wrote: »

Whether you trust them or not you should try living in a country with a really bent police force. You would be on your knees being thankful for the country that you live in.

I lived in Kingston, a more corrupt country (Jamaica) nevermind force you'll be pushed to find. I was never on my knees being thankful over there or when I came home. I don't have to pay bribes here when driving to work, that's pretty much the only difference.

realdanbreen · 23-05-2019 11:40am

El_Bee wrote: »

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

We already have armed gardai and rapid response teams etc, if we armed all gardai the criminals will just arrive with better weapons and shootouts will happen and gardai will be killed.

That only happens in really really corrupt nations like Mexico and maybe Brazil, if we continue on with that logic why have police at all? they only upset the criminals with their presence.

You think Mexico and Brasil are really corrupt? Try living in reality corrupt x 10 countries like half the countries in Africa, middle east and Asia!

listermint · 23-05-2019 11:51am

El_Bee wrote: »

That only happens in really really corrupt nations like Mexico and maybe Brazil, if we continue on with that logic why have police at all? they only upset the criminals with their presence.

You don't have a notion at all.

It's called escalation.

We don't need a fully armed police service here. We have units. We can have more of them but no we shouldn't arm all guards. It means all criminals will then want guns.

Understand that.

major bill · 23-05-2019 11:53am

The Enbalmer wrote: »

if we don't arm them more gardai are likely to be killed..crime is only going one way in this country..we're not quite a succesor to London yet but we might soon be a Bradford,for example.

how many Gardai have died from gunshot wounds in the last 10 years??? You forget 14 years ago we had the Drimnagh/Crumlin feud, how many Guards died then?

We have armed Guards, they do their job well, they are trained, I'd rather not live in a country where every thicko that comes out of templemore is handed a weapon.

Dublin is nothing like Bradford and nothing like London.

safeasparagus · 23-05-2019 11:59am

Any chance people who want to discuss the pros / cons of having an armed / unarmed police force can set up a new thread ??

I just want the shooting information

23-05-2019 11:59am

i take the mcdowell doctrine approach meself.

these lads taking each other out doesnt bother me one bit.

xzanti · 23-05-2019 12:03pm

They found the Darndale shooter's bike.

Chesty08 · 23-05-2019 12:05pm

Is that WhatsApp video doing the rounds of the two lads, legit and recent?

Boom_Bap · 23-05-2019 12:06pm

Chesty08 wrote: »

Is that WhatsApp video doing the rounds of the two lads, legit and recent?

a short synopsis of said video might be nice.

kingstevii · 23-05-2019 12:06pm

xzanti wrote: »

They found the Darndale shooter's bike.

Whats the chances we'll have a headline "Gardai find the shooter's e-scooter" soon?

.Charlo · 23-05-2019 12:07pm

Chesty08 wrote: »

Is that WhatsApp video doing the rounds of the two lads, legit and recent?

Its not. Some amount of shìte going around on that app.

IvoryTower · 23-05-2019 12:14pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

a short synopsis of said video might be nice.

it shows 2 lads throwing bricks through a car window in an estate, a young woman is trying to stop them and they throw her on the ground.

As above, no idea if it's actually connected

MrFresh · 23-05-2019 12:15pm

major bill wrote: »

how many Gardai have died from gunshot wounds in the last 10 years??? You forget 14 years ago we had the Drimnagh/Crumlin feud, how many Guards died then?

We have armed Guards, they do their job well, they are trained, I'd rather not live in a country where every thicko that comes out of templemore is handed a weapon.

Dublin is nothing like Bradford and nothing like London.

None died but two were shot. One was shot while preserving a shooting scene outside the home of a victim. The family came out and told him to stop bleeding on their driveway. There were also a number injured with other weapons. Dealing with explosives was also common enough. There were actually three separate feuds going on at the time.

El_Bee · 23-05-2019 12:19pm

listermint wrote: »

You don't have a notion at all.

It's called escalation.

We don't need a fully armed police service here. We have units. We can have more of them but no we shouldn't arm all guards. It means all criminals will then want guns.

Understand that.

Scaremongering and alarmist rubbish.

MrFresh · 23-05-2019 12:22pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

a short synopsis of said video might be nice.

it shows two lads smashing windows on a car and throwing a woman around. The description with it identifies them as Seán Little and Jordan Davis. It claims they were told to stop dealing in an area so went around to basically show they weren't afraid. Also claims a price was put on them afterwards. Couldn't tell you if it's actually them or not.

MrFresh · 23-05-2019 12:24pm

Video purporting to be of a fight in Darndale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwPZp9D_iqs

98q76e12hrflnk · 23-05-2019 12:28pm

MrFresh wrote: »

Video purporting to be of a fight in Darndale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwPZp9D_iqs

a fight? more like a game of run forward and away and repeat

El_Bee · 23-05-2019 12:35pm

I wonder if they'll be eulogised like Parker was as some saint from a good family who fell in with the wrong crowd.

The_Kew_Tour · 23-05-2019 12:37pm

That's the funniest video I have seen in long time

.Charlo · 23-05-2019 12:41pm

El_Bee wrote: »

I wonder if they'll be eulogised like Parker was as some saint from a good family who fell in with the wrong crowd.

I wonder if wardy and the boys will show up at the funeral in a stretch hummer like they did for parkers funeral.

Fan of Netflix · 23-05-2019 12:47pm

Whatever happened to Mr Big? And his associates the Taliban brothers. Mr Big was always in the news now nothing and this is all on his doorstep. Maybe he gave it all up and has a nice 9-5 office job.....:rolleyes:

.Charlo · 23-05-2019 12:49pm

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Whatever happened to Mr Big? And his associates the Taliban brothers. Mr Big was always in the news now nothing and this is all on his doorstep. Maybe he gave it all up and has a nice 9-5 office job.....:rolleyes:

Hes had a great run to be fair, avoided being murdered locked up and got rid of the RIRA in Dublin.

Hes a smart guy.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/trial-of-man-accused-of-600k-tiger-kidnapping-collapses-amid-fears-jury-getting-outside-information-35616961.html

Ash.J.Williams · 23-05-2019 1:00pm

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Exactly like the chap that shot dead Mark Hennessey when he could have been easily arrested and put up for murder. We could have had more answers than questions.

More guns isn't the answer.

that cop should get a medal

Feisar · 23-05-2019 1:16pm

Collie D wrote: »

Is there a full moon? Three shootings in 24 hours is pretty crazy. Little ****heads running around acting the hard man with guns with no respect for life.

Expect some tough talking tomorrow from Harris and Flanagan. Actions would be better.

What actions though? Their hands are tied by the thin veneer of democracy we supposedly live under.

Fan of Netflix · 23-05-2019 1:16pm

.Charlo wrote: »

Hes had a great run to be fair, avoided being murdered locked up and got rid of the RIRA in Dublin.

Hes a smart guy.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/trial-of-man-accused-of-600k-tiger-kidnapping-collapses-amid-fears-jury-getting-outside-information-35616961.html

Yes it all worked out very well for him and the Gardai, the whole RIRA in Dublin taken out and nobody charged or convicted of any of the murders, they make a very good partnership....;)

And never openly named in the media like many others. His cronies the Taliban bros getting away with other multiple murders and linked to at least 7. They must be back in Libya fighting in Gaddafis honour.....:rolleyes:

Telly · 23-05-2019 1:36pm

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Yes it all worked out very well for him and the Gardai, the whole RIRA in Dublin taken out and nobody charged or convicted of any of the murders, they make a very good partnership....;)

And never openly named in the media like many others. His cronies the Taliban bros getting away with other multiple murders and linked to at least 7. They must be back in Libya fighting in Gaddafis honour.....:rolleyes:

He was openly named in the papers

.Charlo · 23-05-2019 1:47pm

Telly wrote: »

He was openly named in the papers

Not as Mr Big.

El_Bee · 23-05-2019 2:00pm

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Yes it all worked out very well for him and the Gardai, the whole RIRA in Dublin taken out and nobody charged or convicted of any of the murders, they make a very good partnership....;)

And never openly named in the media like many others. His cronies the Taliban bros getting away with other multiple murders and linked to at least 7. They must be back in Libya fighting in Gaddafis honour.....:rolleyes:

I've never heard of these Taliban Bros who were they? Also why didnt they just get a new Jury?

Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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