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Fire at Metro Hotel in Ballymun

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    The planning ref. is 1052/03 but no documents seem to be uploaded other than the grant permission notice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭muckbrien


    kravmaga wrote: »
    It was completed in 2007 by Pierse contracting and a group of investors, its 15 floors in height.

    The hotel was sold in 2014.

    I don't know if the hotel has sprinklers but I would imagine it has a Fire Detection alarm system and evacuation system in place .

    Used to be the Days 3 star hotel and it was a new build.

    That's a whole other can of worms too

    Fire spreading and everyone being evacuated by alarm

    None of that should be happening ideally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    sdanseo wrote: »
    The planning ref. is 1052/03 but no documents seem to be uploaded other than the grant permission notice.

    Planning would be silent on fire cert - they’re maintained at Dublin City fire brigade in Townsend street. Be interested to see if there’s a reference to a sprinkler system in the planning application.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Mark Henderson


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    There's a chopper flying over there now that I'd guess one of the TV stations hired.

    Haha. This isn't America. It's the Gardai helicopter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    The rubbish shoots were the way out if there had of been a big fire in the towers

    the way out for people?? are you mental?:eek:


    What saved the flats many many times was that they were bare, thick concrete that made it difficult for a blaze to spread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Great_one


    No they wouldn’t.

    Ya day wood


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Garda

    No it didn't look like one of theirs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭HONKEY TONK


    Just looked at the photo gallery on the website.

    I see fire detection systems in the rooms bot no sprinklers as far as I could see.


  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Video just posted of what looks like a family still in a room 2-3 floors below. Would like to believe it's entirely empty


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭HONKEY TONK


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Residential / hotel use and over 30m high, sprinklers would be mandatory

    Can you post a link to that as I’ve been checking everywhere for that information


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭AGC


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    No it didn't look like one of theirs.

    Didn’t think anything else would be going up after dark? Or allowed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Haha. This isn't America. It's the Gardai helicopter.

    Wait and see which station has footage from a chopper so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,672 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Grenfell now on Sky News (Youtube), hope nothing similar here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    Wait and see which station has footage from a chopper so.

    TV3 can barely afford to put petrol in cars, and RTE aren't going to bother their arses crossing the liffey so who do you suggest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    Wait and see which station has footage from a chopper so.

    They’re all finished for the night. The Irish ones anyway. Maybe sky.


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    Weepsie wrote: »
    Video just posted of what looks like a family still in a room 2-3 floors below. Would like to believe it's entirely empty

    Seriously? Wonder if video is from hours ago when fire just started?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Can you post a link to that as I’ve been checking everywhere for that information

    https://www.nsai.ie/Our-Services-(1)/Standardization-(1)/2017-Standards-Promotion/201712-NSAI-FSS-Seminar-CB.aspx

    Slide no 10. Would also be in part B of the technical guidance documents (fire)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Seem to be getting it under control going by images on Twitter. Looks like firefighters inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Just looked at the photo gallery on the website.

    I see fire detection systems in the rooms bot no sprinklers as far as I could see.

    Most likely sprinklers on escape routes only. Bedrooms most likely to have one hour fire rated walls from room to room and room to corridor


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,146 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Few brazzers gone offline tonight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭jimmy180sx


    I see fire detection systems in the rooms bot no sprinklers as far as I could see.


    Sprinklers will likely be in corridors on escape routes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    TV3 can barely afford to put petrol in cars, and RTE aren't going to bother their arses crossing the liffey so who do you suggest?

    Rte can pay what they like to send people anywhere at your expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    AGC wrote: »
    Didn’t think anything else would be going up after dark? Or allowed
    Coastguard is at airport, they could have provided relief (I think I may have heard them, not sure)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    Rte can pay what they like to send people anywhere at your expense.

    Not the north side though. Be crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,286 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    'Around 150 guests were staying in the hotel at the time, and all have been accounted for, along with all those living in the hotel.

    The hotel guests have been relocated to the nearby Carlton Hotel for the evening.'

    according to RTE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    There's a chopper flying over there now that I'd guess one of the TV stations hired.

    Thats the Garda Helicopter dude, ive just reviewed the footage on youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zesUB7Y69Y


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    Wait and see which station has footage from a chopper so.

    So what past experience have you seen of an Irish TV station taking a helicopter into a live incident area?

    BTW just as an aside Garda helicopter is in the area, that's the one being talked about.

    But where on earth are you getting the example of Irish TV ever taking a chopper into the air over a live incident?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Not the north side though. Be crazy.

    Well I guess flying in there in a chopper and hovering for a while would be safe enough for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    More gardai arriving in vans - presumably to deal with idiots?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭muckbrien


    More gardai arriving in vans - presumably to deal with idiots?

    They'll be maintaining a cordon I presume

    Garda won't be allowed in or close for safety reasons obviously


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Looking at the Tweets it just shows how much the job can change in the blink of an eye lid, one second your entertaining the kids down the station, next your risking life and limb in an apartment complex fire.

    Great respect for our Fire Fighters.

    https://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/976538360146726917

    https://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/976560250869420032


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    Well I guess flying in there in a chopper and hovering for a while would be safe enough for them.

    Any chance you can give an example of an Irish TV channel sticking a chopper above a live incident? (as per one of your previous posts).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    All were evacuated on time and are staying in a different hotel. :)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    TV3 reporting live there from the scene on the Tonight show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,995 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Great to hear of no fatalities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭rafatoni


    TV3 reporting live there from the scene on the Tonight show.
    are they in a helicopter?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    All were evacuated on time and are staying in a different hotel. :)

    Were they airlifted by the TV chopper?


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    rafatoni wrote: »
    are they in a helicopter?

    Doubt they'd be allowed they reported 3 in the air to assist the fire brigade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    humberklog wrote: »
    Were they airlifted by the TV chopper?

    no The network tv choppers were busy following all the multiple police, sorry cop car chases down the highway m50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    hoping the reports are true that no one is injured or killed and all safely evacuated. Hope the firefighters are able to extinguish it without injury. Local residents should keep windows closed and check on family/friends/neighbours with respiratory problems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    OK I got a slagging but the chopper was heading there fast and didn't put the light on.

    I was wrong.


    Can't wait to see tomorrow on TV that I was right. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,995 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Just looking at the images, it would appear that the fire is on 2 separate floors, 3 floors apart? Seen in this image.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/fire-brigade-tackles-major-blaze-at-hotel-in-north-dublin-1.3435687

    How would that happen, unless there are 2 separate fires?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Fire looks out from where I'm looking. Which is about 300 meters away.

    Fingers crossed it doesn't flare up again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Oops69 wrote: »
    no The network tv choppers were busy following all the multiple police, sorry cop car chases down the highway m50.


    Back to Ron Burgundy in the studio


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,795 ✭✭✭sweetie


    NIMAN wrote:
    Just looking at the images, it would appear that the fire is on 2 separate floors, 3 floors apart? Seen in this image.

    Article written by Sarah Burns!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Just looking at the images, it would appear that the fire is on 2 separate floors, 3 floors apart? Seen in this image.



    How would that happen, unless there are 2 separate fires?
    Two open windows/balcony doors , with curtains?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Greybottle


    humberklog wrote: »
    So what past experience have you seen of an Irish TV station taking a helicopter into a live incident area?

    BTW just as an aside Garda helicopter is in the area, that's the one being talked about.

    But where on earth are you getting the example of Irish TV ever taking a chopper into the air over a live incident?

    They had choppers flying over floods a couple of years ago, live reporting going on there.

    Some people may remember the Eye in the Sky chopper that flew over Dublin every evening in the 90's giving traffic reports. This wa before we were all connected via CCTV and mobile phones.

    No TV station has one as we are a relatively peaceful city compared to many others.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I thought Twitter would have been interesting for an event like this.

    Nope, full of gob****es taking a pop at the government about front line workers pay, construction and the housing crisis, including one MEP claiming the hotel is housing lots of homeless families despite there actually being none.

    And when people then realise there's no homeless families that seems to be the end of it for them, not a thought for those who may actually be living in those apartments in the process of losing their homes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    By the way if we did have eye in the sky choppers they wouldn't be allowed next or near Ballymun by Airport ATC.


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