Severe Wind Storm late 26th-27th December

kerrywez · 26-12-2013 10:37am

kerrywez wrote: »

About time too, but better than nothing.

Regards Wez

Sorry seems I got that wrong it was the UK Met Office which issued that warning.

Can't be ME they are saying possible violent storm 11.

Regards Wez

maquiladora · 26-12-2013 10:42am

kerrywez wrote: »

Sorry seems I got that wrong it was the UK Met Office which issued that warning.

Can't be ME they are saying possible violent storm 11.

Regards Wez

Met Eireann sea area forecast does mention force 11.

Of course these are winds at sea. In the historic Dec 1997 storm Cork and Shannon airports had violent storm force winds. We are not looking at something like that extreme happening today!

ninebeanrows · 26-12-2013 10:43am

6z GFS ups the ante a little bit.

Looks like a widespread storm. Maximum gusts near 140km/hr but suggest there could be higher gusts in peak gusts on exposed coasts.

What is noteworthy is the chance of widespread inland gusts to 110-120km/hr. Which is very uncommon.

Also storm only slowly abating tomorrow afternoon.

A red warning advised from me on latest output.

dopolahpec · 26-12-2013 10:49am

kerrywez wrote: »

My oh my you all seem to not like our so call met service being run down, but if my memory serves me right, there are many on here who agree with me when it comes to them giving early enough warnings. As a matter of fact the explanation given for an orange waning on the ME sight is not anywhere near as severe as that given on Meteoalarm. Time will tell who is right, by now, with less than 6 hours till the storm is supposed to hit here, I would have thought that little time to put a red warning, as suggested by the experts on here, is very small. And You can keep winking Jerry and his mates, I shall take my advice from here, and MT in particular.

Anyway, I shall say no more on the subject unless I feel there is a need to.

Wez

Met Eireann cannot become regarded as the boy who cried wolf. On a rising scale of severity it is of the utmost importance than the integrity of the red warning is maintained for a widespread emergency situation. Today's storm will be bad but it's certainly not far past the marginal side of a red warning (if at all) for a few places on the basis of publically available weather data. It has been many years since we've had a really really bad storm in Ireland yet if you get caught up in the hype on rolling news channels, tabloids and indeed message boards you can end up thinking that youtube footage of a trampoline rolling down a road is an indication of 'hurricane force red warning extreme weather'

It may well be the case we see red warning later. But if so, met Eireann have not made a blunder by not calling it earlier. They have to make a call on probabilities

Pangea · 26-12-2013 10:56am

How come M.T labelled this an extreme event, is it because its hitting the south where they are not used to these winds or because of the heavy rain accompanying it? The wind gusts predicted aren't as strong as the ones predicted for two storms ago.

Storm 10 · 26-12-2013 10:59am

last night in the sea area forecast Met Eireann said "backing westerly and increasing to violent storm force 11" would that not warrant a red warning

maquiladora · 26-12-2013 10:59am

06Z GFS catches up with the stronger winds the hi res models had been showing since yesterday.

A very stormy night ahead for the Kerry coast.

Cliky · 26-12-2013 11:00am

What time is this hitting dublin

sunflower3 · 26-12-2013 11:00am

Met eireann have yellow warning now, down from orange.

Lumi · 26-12-2013 11:01am

They've just updated the warning

STATUS YELLOW

Wind Warning for Countrywide
Update
Becoming very stormy this evening with gale force southeast winds veering southwest early tonight and further veering westerly early tomorrow morning. Severe and damaging gusts of 110 or 130 km/hr expected, with violent gusts of 140 or 150km/hr in some exposed western and southern coastal areas.
Very high seas also with significant danger of coastal flooding also.
Winds moderating Friday afternoon and evening but gales continuing in the north until early Friday night.

Issued:Thursday 26 December 2013 09:00
Valid:Thursday 26 December 2013 16:00 to Friday 27 December 2013 15:00

ninebeanrows · 26-12-2013 11:01am

Pangea wrote: »

How come M.T labelled this an extreme event, is it because its hitting the south where they are not used to these winds or because of the heavy rain accompanying it? The wind gusts predicted aren't as strong as the ones predicted for two storms ago.

A much more widespread area is going to be hit by severe winds. The severe winds 2 events ago was affecting coastal districts of the west/northwest.

Widespread gusts to 70mph are more than possible, which is significant.

JanuarySnowstor · 26-12-2013 11:02am

Met Eireann haven't done a whole lot wrong BUT.....as all models this morning continue with the storm and as WC says the 06z ups the ante a red alert is needed for at least the southern half of the country

ninebeanrows · 26-12-2013 11:02am

Lumi wrote: »

They've just updated the warning

Certainly going by the update, they meant it to be red rather than yellow

Oscar Bravo · 26-12-2013 11:03am

That met eireann warning should be red. They will fix it soon.

dopolahpec · 26-12-2013 11:04am

Weathercheck wrote: »

Certainly going by the update, they meant it to be red rather than yellow

Yeah see that now

JanuarySnowstor · 26-12-2013 11:04am

Yes typo error there folks we have our red alert.
The pubs wont be happy tonight

maquiladora · 26-12-2013 11:06am

HIRLAM has been rock solid on track and intensity since 06Z yesterday. The latest run continues that trend.

I cant see any significant downgrades or track changes happening now.

kerrywez · 26-12-2013 11:07am

Lumi wrote: »

They've just updated the warning

No Need to say more. I have even put a little Jerry at the top for you. Well I never, some way to go about an update, but respect to ME and well done.

Wez

Villain · 26-12-2013 11:13am

Updated to red now

Lumi · 26-12-2013 11:15am

Weathercheck wrote: »

Certainly going by the update, they meant it to be red rather than yellow

Thought as much given the text of the update

Should be 'interesting' over this side of the country later tonight

maquiladora · 26-12-2013 11:16am

Red warning is for Wexford, Galway, Mayo, Clare, Kerry and Waterford.

They will probably put out an Orange for other counties soon.

noah45 · 26-12-2013 11:16am

Would travel Athlone-Dublin and back be advised today?

aboyro · 26-12-2013 11:17am

thats some prediction. kerry, waterford and wexford getting hit on the south coast and ok for cork!! thats narrowing it down a bit too much i would have thought?

JanuarySnowstor · 26-12-2013 11:17am

They've a red alert for kerry and Waterford but skipped cork lol. Explain that one haha

Cliky · 26-12-2013 11:18am

noah45 wrote: »

Would travel Athlone-Dublin and back be advised today?

No. You'd be taking your life in your hands. Cheak out what red warnings mean

Storm 10 · 26-12-2013 11:18am

Villain wrote: »

Updated to red now

Not wanting to knock them but that is very late given the storm is not too far away

sunbabe08 · 26-12-2013 11:18am

how has cork escaped from this?

Pacing Mule · 26-12-2013 11:21am

sunbabe08 wrote: »

how has cork escaped from this?

Cork snow shield converts to storm shield in milder weather !

Weathering · 26-12-2013 11:21am

Orange warning for rest of the Country plus the risk of coastal flooding for the NW

maquiladora · 26-12-2013 11:21am

Is there any chance we can take out the "seek shelter" part of the thread title or change it to something else? I just think that wording is too dramatic rather than being helpful.

Villain · 26-12-2013 11:23am

Tbh the warning is misleading while the red alert covers those counties a yellow alert for the rest of minster and Leinster should be in affect.

Ahh just updated with orange alert for the rest of the country.

Weathering · 26-12-2013 11:23am

maquiladora wrote: »

Is there any chance we can take out the "seek shelter" part of the thread title or change it to something else? I just think that wording is too dramatic rather than being helpful.

Ze Germans are coming

faktisperminute · 26-12-2013 11:26am

MET changed the warning to status RED now

leahyl · 26-12-2013 11:26am

What the hell is the deal with an orange alert for cork and red for the rest of the counties along the south coast?! The mind boggles!!

Lumi · 26-12-2013 11:27am

maquiladora wrote: »

Is there any chance we can take out the "seek shelter" part of the thread title or change it to something else? I just think that wording is too dramatic rather than being helpful.

No can do unfortunately - if we want to use the red warning thread heading the text is set.
I agree btw, the 'seek shelter' element is overly dramatic
Best I can do is remove the preset warning and type it in ordinary font - thoughts?

Tactical · 26-12-2013 11:28am

noah45 wrote: »

Would travel Athlone-Dublin and back be advised today?

Depends on when you need to be back in Dublin by.

If back by tomorrow is necessary then plan to leave soon.

Plan for the worst, hope for the best.
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

I know this is something I say a lot but it really does help. For example last night it rained on a freezing and untreated motorway. The road surface tirned into a skating rink. I stopped and got my vehicle off the road. With me I carry a "winter pack". Last night the fleece top, hat and blanket were of use. I was able to stay warm without needing to have the engine running. So fuel was conserved. An hour or so later there was a heavy shower and a slight increase in temperature, which resulted in an improvement in road conditions allowing me yp get moving again.

So by planning for the worst situation, I had suitable items with me in the event of an interrupted journey. Which came to pass.

Redsunset · 26-12-2013 11:28am

The High Risk Seek Shelter can't be changed by us Maq. The tech team of boards have to do that.
However would you not want to seek shelter in areas with the red warning. Just my opinion.

Cosmo Kramer · 26-12-2013 11:28am

sunbabe08 wrote: »

how has cork escaped from this?

Independent Peoples Republic isn't it, therefore no longer covered by ME. You'll have to get your own met service.

munsterlegend · 26-12-2013 11:29am

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

They've a red alert for kerry and Waterford but skipped cork lol. Explain that one haha

Jumped over limerick as well!

Lumi · 26-12-2013 11:30am

Redsunset wrote: »

However would you not want to seek shelter in areas with the red warning. Just my opinion.

Maybe 'Avoid Unnecessary Travel' might be better

noah45 · 26-12-2013 11:31am

What time roughly is storm meant to hit us? Extremely calm at moment.

Cliky · 26-12-2013 11:31am

Lumi wrote: »

No can do unfortunately - if we want to use the red warning thread heading the text is set.
I agree btw, the 'seek shelter' element is overly dramatic
Best I can do is remove the preset warning and type it in ordinary font - thoughts?

This is a potentially life threatening event so it should be left as is

Redsunset · 26-12-2013 11:32am

Don't you know that Cork snow Shields have been upgraded to manage wind too.

faktisperminute · 26-12-2013 11:33am

Redsunset wrote: »

Don't you know that Cork snow Shields have been upgraded to manage wind too.

I didn't know heaven existed in Ireland :pac:

leahyl · 26-12-2013 11:33am

Serious question though, why are we not includes in the red alert? Not saying that orange isn't serous but can't see why we would not be included in red alert??!

Cosmo Kramer · 26-12-2013 11:35am

Lumi wrote: »

No can do unfortunately - if we want to use the red warning thread heading the text is set.
I agree btw, the 'seek shelter' element is overly dramatic
Best I can do is remove the preset warning and type it in ordinary font - thoughts?

I would say change it manually, we're talking about a borderline Orange/Red event, not a once in a generation type storm, it is a bit too dramatic sounding.

munsterlegend · 26-12-2013 11:35am

leahyl wrote: »

Serious question though, why are we not includes in the red alert? Not saying that orange isn't serous but can't see why we would not be included in red alert??!

Us rebels are always on red alert!

Bigcheeze · 26-12-2013 11:35am

Weathering wrote: »

Ze Germans are coming

"Duck and Cover"

Redsunset · 26-12-2013 11:37am

QUOTE=Lumi;88159692]Maybe 'Avoid Unnecessary Travel' might be better[/QUOTE]

But then there's a contradiction if we take it out because the red warning means to seek shelter as worded by Met Éireann

STATUS RED - Severe Weather Warning - Take Action

The issue of RED level severe weather warnings should be a comparatively rare event and implies that recipients take action to protect themselves and/or their properties; this could be by moving their families out of the danger zone temporarily; by staying indoors; or by other specific actions aimed at mitigating the effects of the weather conditions.

maquiladora · 26-12-2013 11:37am

Redsunset wrote: »

The High Risk Seek Shelter can't be changed by us Maq. The tech team of boards have to do that.
However would you not want to seek shelter in areas with the red warning. Just my opinion.

I just think it sounds too much like impending doom is at hand. Avoiding travel and staying indoors is good advice, but seek shelter sounds like people diving from their cars to avoid a meteor strike to me.

Severe Wind Storm late 26th-27th December

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