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A boat full of carbs

  • 03-09-2013 9:33am
    #1
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭


    The idea of starting this log came to me when I was in a 12 hour boat trip from Athens to Lesvos where the ferry had nothing but carbs to eat. I mean just sandwiches, cakes, croissants etc etc.. So i had to survive 12hour on the nuts I had with me, pretty amazing for me as I am hungry every few hours.

    Anyway, as I am thinking taking things a bit more serious this year, just for my self rather than anything else, I will write here all my daily battles with food and the training. If you are following Pete's food log, I am very strictly following the LCHF diet and we will see how this will affects things this year. I 've completely eliminated all carbs, I 've killed my cravings for sugar and generally I am a happy man. As of this morning, I weigh 79kgs which brings me a kilo down from the end of July with no exercise and a lot of food and drinks, but holidays are now over. I don't promise for this log to be very interesting but i ll do my best. I do plan to race cyclocross starting in a few weeks time (do you hear that holyboy? :P) but I am seeing it as training more than a race, I am not in a racing shape by any means.

    So to start off:

    Sunday

    Training: 50km spin, very low intensity, mostly flat with 1-2 very short sharp hills. Felt great.
    Food:Breakfast was few pieces of brie cheese with butter fried bacon and one apple. Lunch was two salmon fillets with mayo and spinach salad. Dinner two pork chops with two fried eggs on top, all done in butter. I had various nuts throughout the day.

    Monday

    Training: Back to the gym in the evening. I am doing twice a week a crossfit session which helps me deal with issues on my knee and my shoulders. 1hour of pain.
    Food: Breakfast was cheese with ham. Dinner was pork chops again with spinach/rocket salad. I wasn't hungry for lunch so I just nibbled on some cheese and ham.

    More later today.


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  • #2
    ford2600
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    An awful lot of pig. Mix it up with lamb and beef, for most part grass fed in Ireland?
    While I'm not in the Heaven hates ham brigade, the commercial pig has a life far removed from his natural environment, much like factory chickens.
    If your diet is for your health, and basically a return to pre farming way of eating(without the hunting!)why eat so much of an animal raised in an unnatural manner?


  • #3
    AstraMonti
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    Because I was just back from holidays and that's all I had in the freezer :D I am usually beef eater. I am going today to the butcher to stock up!


  • #4
    ford2600
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    Ask butcher for beef ribs. Paul Flynn, Tannery restaurant, slow cooks them for hours.
    Going to try myself over weekend.

    My butcher can also get pigs blood so home made black pudding on the way.

    When doing SKt tour last weekend all food stops had was carbs in one for or another, so not quite 12 hours, but between cycling in an out it was a long day on a handful of olives and nuts!

    If near Wicklow, venison should be easy enough to source. Need a hunter who knows what he's doing though, deer can often have TB infection


  • #5
    niceonetom
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    Good luck Astra, I'll be following with interest.

    I'm about 10 days into a pretty strict LCHF regime - I had an apple last night and nearly wept at the sweetness of it. I've been more or less paleo (in a broad form that allows dairy, fruit and some complex carbs like sweet potato and very occasionally a little rice) for nearly a year so it's not a massive shift from before but the reduction in carbs, especially fruit which I think I was using as a bit of a crutch is significant enough to make me feel very different.

    I've done several long spins on this, 5 hours in Wicklow being the most demanding, and have found it tough but doable. Performance is down and recovery is absolutely terrible. It's early days but I'm keeping in mind that LCHF is, for me, not going to be a long term approach. I'm going to continue through September as I feel that this is a time of year when I can experiment and I want to lose some weight so I can return to a decent racing weight while having a better body composition. Subjectively, even in these early days I appear to be losing body fat.

    It'll be interesting to see how you get on with CX - while I can crank out the long Z2 miles and do some short efforts up hills (rarely more than 10 or 15 minutes long in this country) I don't think I would do well at CX style intensity/duration. Maybe that's a question of adaptation but I'm still reasonably convinced that if performance is the goal then carbs are necessary for anything involving threshold-or-above exertion for more than a few minutes. Of course if immediate performance is secondary to other concerns like health or performance improvements next season or something that's different.


  • #6
    petethedrummer
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    AstraMonti wrote: »
    Training: Back to the gym in the evening. I am doing twice a week a crossfit session which helps me deal with issues on my knee and my shoulders. 1hour of pain.

    Be very careful with crossfit. Yes they extole the paleo diet, but they incorporate a lot of skill based movements to generate fatigue. A sure fire way to injure yourself.


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  • #7
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    I 've been doing crossfit since last Christmas and I am coping very well with it. I need to keep doing it as my shoulders and knees need the extra exercise I get from crossfit in order for them to behave properly. I 've seen a change to my body, especially my back. It's only two (brutal) hours a week and I think the intensity of it might help on the bike as well. I find a lot times myself gasping for air and it's the same feeling as on the bike.

    Food: Breakfast was in the work canteen, 2 eggs, 2 bacon 2 sausages and a bit of cheddar. But I ll stop eating here as they use vegetable oil to fry the stuff. Lunch was salmon fillet with green salad.


  • #8
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    AstraMonti wrote: »
    I've been doing crossfit since last Christmas and I am coping very well with it. I need to keep doing it as my shoulders and knees need the extra exercise I get from crossfit in order for them to behave properly.
    Well I hope it goes well for you, I toyed with idea of trying it but decided against it. I think most of the problem is around the olympic lifting exercises done with poor technique and high reps.
    http://breakingmuscle.com/crossfit/how-injury-proof-your-crossfit

    Or go to 21 mins in to this interview, he describe their approach to training as "butterfly hunting with a bazooka".
    http://www.philosophyinaction.com/archive/2012-12-05.html
    http://board.crossfit.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12


  • #9
    AstraMonti
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    Training: 1h:10mins. 15mins warm up, 4x4mins on/off intervals and the rest slowly get back to home. I felt great again, my legs felt fresh regardless of the squats yesterday on the gym. HR says I hit 210bpm, but I am not buying it, unless the fat diet unclogged all my arteries :D At exactly the 1h mark I start getting hungry, had nothing with me. Arrived home and ate a piece of cheese and a piece of 70% choco.

    Food: Dinner was 220grams of shrimps. Easy and super yummy. Butter, chopped garlic, a slice of thick bacon cut in small pieces. Cook them until bacon is golden, throw the shrimps, salt, pepper, chilly flakes.

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    Set a good amount of spinach on a plate and throw everything on, juices too. Fecking yummy too.

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  • #10
    ROK ON
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    Best of luck Astra.
    I have failed immeasurably. I moved house this weekend and as a result had a lot of heavy lifting and no gas in the cooker so ate takeaways for three days washed down with beer and g&ts.
    Met a very small man tonight who forced mento have a beer. I did find a gluten free beer - Estrella Dauro. Nice actually.
    One thing that I would be very interested in hearing about from you and the other advocates is energy levels.

    When I started a loose LCHF meal plan I noticed no change in energy levels. In fact on several very early morning cycles I set some PBs on local climbs - nit just slight PBS but absolutely killed my previous times.

    However in the past few weeks I have hit a brick wall. Colossally lethargic. Plagued with mouth ulcers and saddle sores. Generally feeling run down. Stopped cycling completely.

    I am not saying that it is related to food, in that I have been busy with work and the house. I am sleeping well but still consistently tired.

    Just wondering what other folks have gone thru in terms of energy levels.

    Anyway - best of luck. Also, more receipies and photos.


  • #11
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    Wednesday

    Training: 20mins ABS, 5mins chin ups and 45mins running with a bit of squats and sprint work in there. Felt amazing, better than ever. Had the garmin with me with a different HR strap today. What did it say? Max hr 197! WTF is going on? I 've never knew I could hit those numbers, I mean the last two years I was dying around 188, and now I felt I could push even harder if I wanted to. Recovery from the previous day seems good, but I think it's because my body is fresh from the holidays, we ll see as the weeks go by.

    Food: Breakfast was two sausages done on the grill not fried, boiled egg, piece of cheddar cheese. Had few nuts until lunch. Lunch was haddock with a buttery sauce and some greens but I was still hungry. Had some jerky beef and a square of dark chocolate. Unfortunately I saw later that the jerky had sugar in it and lots of it, so if you have any ideas of good jerky please share. Dinner was home made, chicken fillets cut in strips, on the pan with butter, garlic and cream cheese finished with peppers and spring onion. Rocket and spinach salad for the side. I might have another piece of dark chocolate or an apple, haven't decided it yet.

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    P.S. Day 32: "The honey" and the family still think I am mental and that I am going to die from heart attack. 7 books have been ordered from amazon and I would leave them hanging around, I hope they get read.


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  • #12
    AstraMonti
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    As of this morning my weight is the same 79kg. What I have been noticing is that I am sleeping much quieter. I used to snore all night like an asthmatic camel after a training session, this has been reduced to almost no snoring.


  • #13
    AstraMonti
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    Today's training: wanted to go out for a spin but left work a bit late so I went to gym. 1:15 mins of multiple 6x1mins intervals of squats with 50kgs, chin-ups, push ups, burpees. Very hard, felt dizzy and I feel exhausted now.

    Food: the same breakfast as yesterday, 2 sausages, 2 eggs, 1 piece of cheddar. Lunch at the work canteen was grilled chicken with green salad and parmesan cheese on top. I had cheese with grapes as a snack and more cheese with ham and olives before gym. Dinner was two fillets of salmon done in the oven with mayo and butter/bacon fried broccoli.

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  • #14
    Ryath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Cookery Forum this way ->
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=610

    Only joking Astra have found Petes log and your contributions very interesting and have really helped me clean up my diet. Never really any issues with my weight have always been fairly slim maybe a bit soft around the middle now and again but a long way from being being over weight. I'm 174cm and heaviest I've been is 76kg or so that was towards the end of school though when I training a good bit and carrying a good bit more muscle . Was around the 70kg mark for several years this quickly dropped when I started cycling regularly three years ago to being a fairly steady 65-66kg maybe a kg more or less depending on how much I was doing. I've always eaten fairly well mostly cook everything from scratch and don't have a sweet tooth. Only have the occasional drink and even less since the kids came along. I love my food though and eat absolutely everything and lots of it. If there's an animal on the menu I haven't eaten before I'll try it. I will eat crap though especially if I'm hungry I get very strong hunger pangs and get very irritable.

    Went back to college earlier this year and with the canteen and temptation of getting sausages wedges and beans for elevenses or a cereal bar with every latte the weight creeped back up to over the 70kg mark. Put some of it down to not getting out on the bike as much but when I started back training more and racing in the summer I wasn't getting any lighter even after month.

    Had seen Petes Cult log and started to take some of it onboard. I haven't gone full HCLF but have cut down on the carbs a lot and just eat healthier options. Used to have porridge every morning only have it now on a Sunday before a long spin. Breakast now is usually eggs of some description omlette or some scramble/fried with bacon and mushrooms, or a big bowl of blueberries nuts and natural yogurt. Lots of salads Nicoise, Black Pudding with apple and walnut, Goats Cheese with roasted sweet potato. Eat more veg with my meat dinners and less spuds. Snack on nuts and fruit a lot.
    Have almost entirely cut out bread the odd time though it has been my only option so it can be hard to avoid sometimes.

    I love my pasta dishes and curries with rice too much to cut them out completely but days I do have them I will try and make sure my other two meals of the day are low carb. Hard with a young family as-well as I can't make every meal to my requirements. Main thing I've taken from the log though is to cut out the sugar. What ever about all the arguments about carbs ,low fat paleo etc it really isn't natural or healthy to be eating and drinking the quantities of sugar we in the modern world consume. I wouldn't be even have been that bad compared to average and still reckon I consumed to much.

    End result after two months I'm back around my racing weight of 65kg. I was down to around 68 after a month but even at that weight I was leaner around the middle than I would have been at 65kg previous years. Have been training hard enough the last few weeks so it probably accounts for some loss the last month. Will be interesting to see what happens to my weight over winter with less training. Big difference I've noticed is getting hungry does not bring the same crash I don't get the same ravenous hunger pangs and would be a lot less irritable.

    I feel your pain of the boat load of carbs college canteen feels like that sometimes hot counter and snacks options are all high carb there is a salad counter but a limited selection to make a decent meal and some days I'd prefer something hot.

    Only intended to make a quick comment sorry it turned into a rant. Interested to see how you get on with it. Will probably try out to go full HCLF for a while at some point in the future to see how I get on with it.


  • #15
    AstraMonti
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    If you like your pasta and don't want to cut them off your diet try to make them yourself, they are not that hard, but take some time to roll out. The ready stuff is processed in such way that they can keep a shelf life for over a year and if bacteria don't eat it, then you shouldn't probably either :D. At the temperatures they're drying them out they kill out all nutritional stuff, so what you're body is essentially eating is sugar. At least try to eat whole-grain pasta, it's less bad. I was reading about pasta in a blog but I can't find it now.


  • #16
    Ryath
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    Never thought about the dried vs fresh pasta thing. Would be interested to see that blog as you say its dried at such high temperatures some of the nutritional value is gone. I'm sure some pastas are better than others though usually buy Decceco or Barilla. Used to make fresh pasta occasionally its good few years now though. As you say it is easy but pretty time consuming. Used to really only bother for making stuffed pastas like ravioli and tortellini. Do use fresh refrigerated pasta a fair bit but for some dishes the dried is nicer. Will try and stick with the fresh stuff now though still keeps for a week or two in the fridge. You can't beat Pasta for convenience though tin of tomatoes few bits and pieces you have in the fridge and cupboard you can make quite a decent meal.

    Your right about the bacteria saw this afew months ago
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  • #17
    AstraMonti
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    Here it is http://bodyecology.com/articles/avoid_pasta.php
    I 've no idea about the statements regarding noodles.


  • #18
    Zyzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    Goddam you have some sexy plates.

    Where to buy?


  • #19
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    LOL! Dunnes' finest.


  • #20
    AstraMonti
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    Training: sort spin on the new cx bike, up and down the hill. My legs were not in bits by yesterday's session in the gym so happy days.

    Food: Brie with bacon and an egg for breakfast. Two salmon fillets with salad from last night for breakfast. For dinner we went out and the miss chose The counter. I had a burger with salad instead of a bun and some onion rings I shouldn't have eaten. I also had some coated peanuts that messed up my stomach.


  • #21
    AstraMonti
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    Saturday

    Training: None, rest day

    Food: I woke up really late which is very surprising for me and for breakfast I had an egg with bacon and some cheese. I had no lunch and for dinner there was a massive t-bone steak with some horrific hollandaise sauce I made along with some green salad. I ll need to revisit the sauce.

    I only have a pic of the precooked steak.. so yummy..

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    Today:

    Training: 74kms spin with RokOn. I was feeling fine and I wasn't really pushing at all, but at the 62k mark I was completely drained from energy. I had a banana and two handfulls of brazil nut (i would guess around 12-15) but they didn't really help. Need to bring more food with me next time, but I don't know what yet.

    Food: Breakfast was 3 slices of ham along with two boiled eggs and some cheese. Dinner was some lamb cooked in olive oil and fresh oregano, just amazing, with green leafy salad with walnuts. Also there was another dish made with orzo and beef but I barely had two bites out of it. I have no pics because it disappeared quite quickly :D After that the table filled with 7-8 different kinds of sweets but none of them appeal to me, so I just had a piece of dark chocolate.

    Weight is still at 79kgs.


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  • #22
    ROK ON
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    ^
    100k for me at a very easy pace.
    Then I was abducted back to Astras place where after some truly excellent olives, cheese and lamb with salad I was force fed chocolate and various types of home made preserves and jams with Greek yoghurt.
    It was disgusting how Mr & Ms Monti simply forced me to eat all of this sugary goodness.

    Seriously you haven't lived if you haven't had MsMontis lamb and beef.
    You have never seen heaven if you haven't had Turkish delight jam. Seriously addictive.

    Thanks man.


  • #23
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    ;)


  • #24
    AstraMonti
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    Yesterday

    Training: none, was working late and then had no interest of going out. My legs kinda felt heavy too.

    Food: Boiled eggs, cheese, sausage for breakfast. Lunch was beef steak with salad. I had grapes, nuts and cheese for a snack. Dinner was aromatic duck with egg noodles. As I found out later egg noodles have flour in them (yes I am an idiot for not knowing :rolleyes: )

    Today

    Training: 1h crossfit, half an hour running and half hour on the bike.

    Food: 2 eggs and some ham. Lunch was an omelette with cheese,onions, ham and peppers. Pecan nuts for snack and a piece of dark choco. For dinner I had butter fried prawns with greens.


  • #25
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    AstraMonti wrote: »
    Yesterday

    Training: none, was working late and then had no interest of going out. My legs kinda felt heavy too.

    No wonder, over the 8 days from Sunday to Sunday you trained 7 days! Off the back of doing nothing for a month. When are you going to schedule in rest?


  • #26
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    I had a rest day on Saturday as well, but I might needed another day as I was back after holidays, you're right on that.


  • #27
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    AstraMonti wrote: »
    I had a rest day on Saturday as well, but I might needed another day as I was back after holidays, you're right on that.

    Why don't you try not exercising until you feel like it. In a few days when you have fully recovered you should be jumping out of your skin wanting to exercise hard again. If you are tired and you do more exercise, you are going to just get more tired. Or you're going to adapt to this schedule by performing it at a less than optimum intensity and not actually get much fitter despite all the work. IMO!

    You don't need to maintain a calories in vs calories out deficit as you've already demonstrated last month that you can maintain weight with no exercise or hunger.

    Or you could start taking steroids.


  • #28
    AstraMonti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    I am not worried about my calories intake or my weight, I 've been stable the past two years, going 76 to 81.

    But I followed your advice and didn't go out today as I had plan because I wasn't feeling like it. Now I am thinking that I should have gone out, so I am going to leave the house tomorrow very early for an hour an half spin to the office.

    So training nada today.
    As for food, I had brie with bacon, an apple, steak with broccoli and feta cheese, more cheese, salami and nuts for snack and I planning to have another steak with an egg now.


  • #29
    niceonetom
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    Getting to that time of the year when my mind turns to crosstraining and saw this

    AstraMonti wrote: »
    Really interesting article on squats.

    http://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/2012/08/29/squat-depth/


    What are you taking from that, for a cyclist? I did a bit of heavy weights last winter and felt generally better for it (though I don't know that it helped on the bike at all). This year I'm planning on lifting again but am trying to navigate all the advice on the net to figure out what kind of lifts, depth, reps v load I should do that might translate to more power on the bike.


  • #30
    AstraMonti
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    My humble and very unscientific opinion is that probably deep squats with low weight and many repeats will work better for road racing. My trainers always push me for really deep heavy squats (even if it goes just 1 repeat) but I am not sure if they have studied anything out of the norm. I ll chat with them today and see their response.


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  • #31
    niceonetom
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    Yeah - light, deep and high rep was what I was taking it to mean too. I've been doing a few pistol squat sessions as prep for going heavy next month but now I'm thinking that the pistols (which are ass-to-ground) might be enough in themselves. Maybe combined with heavy deadlifts to target the glutes/hip abductors etc.


  • #32
    petethedrummer
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    Arthur Jones on squats. http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/Bulletin1/8.PDF

    http://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/2012/08/29/squat-depth/


  • #33
    AstraMonti
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    Yesterday
    Training: 60k roundtrip commute in a medium tempo. Energy levels were low on the way back, I was starving 10 mins away from home.

    Food: 2 eggs, bacon and sausages for breakfast. Moroccan lamb with salad for lunch. Cheddar cheese with parma ham and a apple for snack after the spin. 15 Chicken wings in the oven for dinner. I had 4 spoons of ice cream just before I went to bed, I felt I need it for some reason so I didn't think it twice.


  • #34
    AstraMonti
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    Friday

    Training: Nada
    Food: Breakfast was bacon with brie, lunch was chicken curry with peas and carrots and for dinner I had pork ribs with salad.

    Today:

    Training: Well.. I didn't officially do anything, but I spent 3 hours working on the garden and the shed so that must account for something
    Food: Egg, bacon, gluten free sausages and brie. Lunch was a big sin, even Epic Meals would be proud of it.

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    Bacon, chicken, chorizo, cheese.. so yummy but I gotten so full. A bit of cheese and grapes for dinner, way too full from that thing.


  • #35
    AstraMonti
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    Sunday
    Training: Playing Borderlands 2 on the pc aka nada. I was planning to go out but I woke up with again heavy legs, saw the weather and entered the wimp list.

    Food: Almond and coconut flour pancakes with a bit of honey, I expected worse. For lunch sirloin steak with spinach salad. For dinner I made chicken with cream, chives, coconut milk and cream cheese but I wasn't hungry so I had some cheese.

    Today
    Training. 1,5h in the gym. We had the 400 today. 50 pushups, 50 burpees, 50 pullups, 50squats with 50kgs, 50 kettlebell thrusters, 50 kettlebell swings and 50 more of something that I don't remember the name. I was fresh from not doing much over the weekend so I went through all happy enough.

    Food: For breakfast it was last nights chicken that I didn't have. Lunch was the other sirloin steak I cooked on Sunday and after the gym I just had some cheese, olives, salami and grapes. Ah.. I also had a spoon of nutella before gym :o


  • #36
    AstraMonti
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    Paleo Protein

    supreme-nutrition-paleo-protein-500x500.jpg

    This might start becoming (if it's not already one) a sales trick. Did they start seeing that they are losing customers? What's next? Paleo offerings from McD :D


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  • #37
    AstraMonti
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    http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2013/08/chicken-mcnuggets-under-microscope.html

    Holy sh!t they are even more disgusting than from what I originally thought.


  • #38
    colm_gti
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    I remember you asking for an energy bar recipe in pete's thread and thought I'd send this on to you...

    http://livinghealthywithchocolate.com/desserts/paleo-blueberry-muffin-grain-free-gluten-free-low-carb-997/

    I know the recipe has a bit of honey in it, which is essentially sugar, but I've halved the amount and they still turn out ok (read addictive), and a little bit of sugar while out on a long spin is no harm anyway.


  • #39
    AstraMonti
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    Training: 60k commute with a good enough pace, was soaked to the bone, welcome back normal irish weather :) Legs felt fresh on the way out (despite yesterdays massacre in the gym) but on the way back I could feel them getting tired. Maybe it's the position too as I am on commuting with the CX bike.

    Food: 2eggs, 2sausages, 2 bacon and cheese for breakfast. Pollock with spinach and broccoli for lunch. Dinner was a steak with oven cooked cauliflower (with bacon, salt, pepper, garlic and cheese on the top). I hated cauliflower but damn that was tasty.

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    So I tried Colm's recipe for the muffins. When I had everything done, I found out that I don't have any berries left, so instead I added a bit of vanilla extract and some cocoa nibs. I think the recipe can do with a bit of tweaking, the two spoons of coconut oil was a bit too much I think. And I also used only one spoon of honey.

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    Anyway there were tasty enough!

    And for the grand finale of this post, the denver diet doctor in one of his lectures. You don't have to agree with him, but just listen to him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jKXO8-laHQ


  • #40
    AstraMonti
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    I just found a reason to start eating carbs again! http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/09/17/223345977/auto-brewery-syndrome-apparently-you-can-make-beer-in-your-gut

    Mental Joe, mental!


  • #41
    AstraMonti
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    Double post, but unfortunately Pete's thread closed down so I ask here. What's the take on adding more protein in your diet by taking whey protein?

    I only did 60k on Tuesday and my legs still feel tired and heavy, and I think it's two things, I either don't get good recovery or I don't stretch enough, or both.


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  • #42
    Ole Rodrigo
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    Its generally accepted a ratio of 3 to 1, carbs to protein, is ideal for recovery after cycling, within a 30 minute window. Anything outside of that can leave you a bit sore next day. Nesquik in low fat milk hits the spot for me.

    I have no idea how paleo folks fare if they are cutting out carbs during and after exercise though. Not too good I would guess. I don't think adding more protein will help you.


  • #43
    colm_gti
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    Yeh I found my legs felt heavier than usual after a long spin when I first started toying with LCHF, so I reintroduced some post-workout carbs and everything was good again


  • #44
    petethedrummer
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    AstraMonti wrote: »
    I only did 60k on Tuesday and my legs still feel tired and heavy, and I think it's two things, I either don't get good recovery or I don't stretch enough, or both.

    AstraMonti wrote: »
    50 pushups, 50 burpees, 50 pullups, 50squats with 50kgs, 50 kettlebell thrusters, 50 kettlebell swings and 50 more of something that I don't remember the name.

    That is a heavy interval session. Any more of this and you'll be on the scrap heap by Christmas.


  • #45
    AstraMonti
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    Yesterday's training didn't happen. Heavy legs and a relatively busy day at the office gave me no mood of doing anything.

    As for the food, I didn't eat much, breakfast was few pieces of Brie with greek salami at around 11am, "lunch" was around 5 and had chicken with peppers, carrots and cashews done in coconut oil. For dinner I had two muffins.

    Today's training was an hour on the gym doing 40s on/off and 30s on/off intervals of squats-bag punching, pushups-boxing, burpees-boxing, two trx exercices and a balance squat.

    For breakfast I had a nice fry with 2eggs, 2 bacon, 2 sausages and cheddar cheese. Lunch was very small, a bit of tuna with two boiled eggs and some spinach. As a snack later I had some olives, cheese and salami and for dinner a bit of leftovers from yesterday's chicken and the two last muffins.


  • #46
    AstraMonti
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    So Friday there was no training. I don't remember the food but it was in the usual lchf schedule.

    Yesterday again no training. Food was bacon and brie for breakfast, no lunch (wasn't hungry) and unfortunately I had aromatic duck with pitas and noodles for dinner. And I am saying unfortunately because I paid dearly the carbfest this morning in the toilet, I ll spare you the details.

    Today I was supposed to race cx. Well I did go there, had 3 warm up laps and started the race. Not even middle way I rolled the tub, luckily I didn't cause any major accidents and I only fell at the grass so it wasn't overly bad, apart from that I had to abandon the race. Oh well, at least it was an amazing venue and a perfect day for it.

    Food, eggs with sausages and cheese for breakfast. Lunch was "light", some cheese, olives, a chorizo and some salad. I am not hungry for dinner so I think I ll be having maybe two paleo muffins I made.

    I 've noticed the last few days that my appetite has gone down, although the calories are still there the quantity isn't. I just don't feel very hungry.

    The weight also has gone down to 78kgs, 3kgs down since the start of August. What's also interesting is that my body fat has been reduced from 18% to 14%, or that's what my cheap-ass scale says, no idea if it stands for anything, I wouldn't personally trust it.


  • #47
    AstraMonti
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT_1dCbbR4I


    funny and so true :D


  • #48
    petethedrummer
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    Man I've had that conversation about 200 times in the last 7 months. I'll just send people that vid from now on.


  • #49
    AstraMonti
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    CrossFit’s Dirty Little Secret

    hmmmmm....


  • #50
    AstraMonti
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    So back to the gym today. 1h of 3mins intervals with 1m breaks of TRX squat jumps, kb squats, kb thrusters, ball press ups and chinups. Throw in there around 50 more press ups and that's it for today. The guys in the gym also bought a fancy scale that measure body fat in 4 different parts of your body and it agreed with my cheap ass scale, my body fat is down to 14%. Well look at that, eating fat makes you lose fat.

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    For breakfast I had two boiled eggs, two sausages and a piece of cheese and few nuts before lunch. Lunch was salmon with crème fraîche sauce and green leaves. The portion was small though so after an hour I had a bag of jerky beef, cheese and brazil nuts. Before the gym I had two paleo muffins and a milk protein shake after it. Again, not overly hungry.


  • #51
    AstraMonti
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    How Grains Are Killing You Slowly
    It all boils down to this: Grains are not healthy and they are toxic to the body. That is the way they were designed. The non-digestible proteins that wreak havoc in our system allow grains to pass un-harmed through the intestines of animals and emerge victorious and in a pile of fertilizer at the other end. Good for the grains-bad for us! Studies have shown, and I have seen in my own work with clients, that a no-grain diet can lower cholesterol, lower blood pressure, reduce inflammation, promote weight loss, alleviate dermatitis or acne, end digestive disturbances like heart disease, increase fertility and dramatically improve energy levels.


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