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Are Jay-Z, Beyonce and Rihanna devil worshippers??

  • 07-02-2010 11:24pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭


    Recently I've been plagued by more and more reports of Jay-Z in particular and more recently Beyonce and Rihanna being involved in devil worshipping.
    YouTube is filled with videos about this and I've seen it on alot of other websites too.
    Is my fragile mind being corrupted?!;)
    This video is just after surfacing by a new rapper.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzqnRiK1hx0


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    Who really gives a **** tbh....


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Neasha


    Agree..Who really gives a ****.



    Rhianna is funky and I find whenever I hear her I cant turn her off. (Downloading albums now)

    But Jay-z or whoever else. I'm sure that Free mason/satanic stuff is just a gimmick they are adopting to appear mysterious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    KingKenny wrote: »
    Who really gives a **** tbh....

    Why waste my time and yours by posting then?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Moved to...


    ...Conspiracy theories? :confused:

    Mods, if you want to move this somewhere else, feel free :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Yes OP they are satanic, google jay-z and co. backmasking, or load some tunes onto your computer and play them backwards, clearly satanic, welcome to the madhouse enjoy your stay.

    jayz and co are illuminati, princehall freemasons, and devil worshippers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Yes OP they are satanic, google jay-z and co. backmasking, or load some tunes onto your computer and play them backwards, clearly satanic, welcome to the madhouse enjoy your stay.

    jayz and co are illuminati, princehall freemasons, and devil worshippers.


    is that masonic symbolism in your signature image uprising?
    (i don't believe bob marley was a mason, but the cover is bizzarely like the freemason logo, no? maybe it's a deliberate play on the symbolism?)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    RGDATA! wrote: »
    is that masonic symbolism in your signature image uprising?

    Have I attracted the wrong crowd here?! Is there insider information?!:P

    From what I understand of the freemasons they prohibit devil worshipping and require belief in a deity of some kind....can anyone correct me on this?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    Have I attracted the wrong crowd here?! Is there insider information?!:P

    From what I understand of the freemasons they prohibit devil worshipping and require belief in a deity of some kind....can anyone correct me on this?!

    The CT goes that as you go higher and higher, you find out you are actually worshipping Satan/Baal/Lucifer/what have you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    RGDATA! wrote: »
    is that masonic symbolism in your signature image uprising?
    (i don't believe bob marley was a mason, but the cover is bizzarely like the freemason logo, no? maybe it's a deliberate play on the symbolism?)

    Yes it is very similar, sun, rays and a kinda pyramid shape, but my take on it is an uprising to destroy babylon (freemason's, illuminati etc), which I believe will occur in the not too distant future, Bob Marley was well aware of the evil cabal that think they rule this world, he called for it's destruction, the CIA got to him after a failed assasination attempt, Carl Colby son of William Colby (CIA), slipped in with a tv crew bearing a gift of a pair of boots, Bob put them on, ouch, something stuck in his toe, it was a piece of copper wire, thats the same toe his cancer spread from.

    "So they build our world is great confusion, to force on us the devil's illusion"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Have I attracted the wrong crowd here?! Is there insider information?!:P

    From what I understand of the freemasons they prohibit devil worshipping and require belief in a deity of some kind....can anyone correct me on this?!

    From what you understand of the freemasons is what your supposed to understand, they must believe in a supreme being, who it is doesnt matter, be it lucifer,baal, satan.

    Look deeper and you will be surprised, look at famous freemasons, who built washington dc and placed a giant pentagram into the layout, who built the statue of liberty, the founding fathers of usa, it's all about deceit and double meaning, dark is light and light is dark.

    And I am NOT a freemason.;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    uprising2 wrote: »
    From what you understand of the freemasons is what your supposed to understand, they must believe in a supreme being, who it is doesnt matter, be it lucifer,baal, satan.

    So they're open to members of differeing religious faiths? Seems pretty good.

    uprising2 wrote: »
    Look deeper and you will be surprised, look at famous freemasons, who built washington dc and placed a giant pentagram into the layout, who built the statue of liberty, the founding fathers of usa, it's all about deceit and double meaning, dark is light and light is dark.

    What, the French? ALL of them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Undergod wrote: »
    So they're open to members of differeing religious faiths? Seems pretty good.




    What, the French? ALL of them?

    Yea they are open to members of different religious faiths, hindu, buddah, roman catholics are not allowed join although strangely the vatican is run by freemasons. And look into the initiation a little maybe, what man of God would be into that satanic sh1t?.

    It was a gift from french freemason's to american freemasons.

    Not all the french, designed by Brother Frederic A. Bartholdi
    http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/statue_of_liberty.htm
    When his famous statue "Liberty Enlightening the World"

    Lucifer is a Latin word, literally meaning "light-bearer
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

    The Statue of Liberty — A Masonic Goddess from Top to Bottom
    The Babylonian Ishtar, Imperial Rome’s goddess Libertas was Papal Rome’s “MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH” and the template for America’s Statue of Liberty.


    Also it was sent to newYORK.....www.YORKrite.org


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Yes it is very similar, sun, rays and a kinda pyramid shape"
    also the upstretched arms are in the place of the rulers in the mason logo and obviously the letter G is on there too!
    thanks for the response. it struck me recently when i saw it in your sig and i thought surely i'm not the first person to notice this, but i couldn't find anything about the story behind the cover design.

    it's a pretty clever take on the logo by whoever the artist was.

    the only thing i would add to this is that sometimes people can use masonic/satanic symbology ironically or to subvert it, in other words for purposes other than spreading the masonic/satanic message.

    I have always thought the school of thought where, for example, every single pyramid in any image has to have some kind of masonic connotation is a bit ridiculous.

    As Freud supposedly said "Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe"


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    RGDATA! wrote: »

    As Freud supposedly said "Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe"

    Well sometimes an all-seeing eye in a pyramid is an all-seeing eye in a pyramid.

    Such as the Rothschild built Israeli Supreme Court. How would you explain these?

    supremecourtpyramid.jpg

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    Same symbolism here
    rihanna-rated-r-album-cover1.jpg


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    RGDATA! wrote: »

    As Freud supposedly said "Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe"


    Yea sometimes a pipe is just a pipe, I found an old book from school in my ma's attic a few years ago and I was looking at my own doodlings on it, there were scribbles of pentagrams, pyramids, eye's, I wondered why I had chose these symbols, I can only presume they got there subliminally, it was a revelation to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Ken_Is_Here


    If you look at a map of D.C. you can make out a pyramid shape lined out by roads or landmarks (this might be stretching a bit)

    If you take this to be the pyramid of 'the gret seal' and add in the 'all seeing eye then the building you've circled is a masonic lodge.

    The Supreme Council, 33°, S.J. USA1733 16th Street Northwest, Washington, DC 20009(202) 232-3579‎
    scottishrite.org


    Couldn't find any rap/hip hop/pop on this site:
    http://www.masonmusic.org/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    If you look at a map of D.C. you can make out a pyramid shape lined out by roads or landmarks (this might be stretching a bit)

    If you take this to be the pyramid of 'the gret seal' and add in the 'all seeing eye then the building you've circled is a masonic lodge.

    The Supreme Council, 33°, S.J. USA1733 16th Street Northwest, Washington, DC 20009(202) 232-3579‎
    scottishrite.org





    You sure can!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Truely no-one could give a fuhk if these loons are satanists, however I would say that the previous post (youtube vids etc...) are particularly dark and negative. There is no need to spread their' negative energy here IMO. The 'artists' are over eighteen and can make their own choices. Why bother telling the good people here of the links these people may have Uprising? Ultimately you're just lending your voice to their' cause.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    Uprising2 .... 'And I am NOT a freemason.;)'

    I'm afraid to ask what the wink is about ....:)

    Thanks everyone for the replies, very interesting and a little depressing that everything I love always turns out to be evil.
    Have a look at this link those of you who seem to know alot about this stuff and tell me what you think .....
    http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Over the last decade now the music industry is moving into really dangerous territory.The previous agenda was to promote gang violence and narcotics through the hip hop/rap artists that kids all over the world are listening and aspiring to.This is designed to create an acceptance of damage to society.Now the latest is they are moving into open acceptance of satanism with Lay Gaga at the forefront blatantly promoting the evil agenda onto the next level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    squod wrote: »
    Truely no-one could give a fuhk if these loons are satanists, however I would say that the previous post (youtube vids etc...) are particularly dark and negative. There is no need to spread their' negative energy here IMO. The 'artists' are over eighteen and can make their own choices. Why bother telling the good people here of the links these people may have Uprising? Ultimately you're just lending your voice to their' cause.

    Sorry, I know they are dark and negative, but it needs to be shown to show people of the darkness that invisibly surrounds us, it may be dark and depressing, but it need's to be exposed for what it is, evil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Uprising2 .... 'And I am NOT a freemason.;)'

    I'm afraid to ask what the wink is about ....:)

    Forget the wink, I am not one of those filthy animals, dull and boring I think you've just stepped over into the looney side of life and the shock is still fresh, be not afraid, educate yourself, look and you will find, this world is not what you've been led to believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Forget the wink, I am not one of those filthy animals, dull and boring I think you've just stepped over into the looney side of life and the shock is still fresh, be not afraid, educate yourself, look and you will find, this world is not what you've been led to believe.

    Sorry if i offended you uprising2. Guess I am just a little over-suspicious given the information I've just received! Thanks for your replies.....I thought after the first 2 posts I got I was just going to be ridiculed and nobody was going to give me a real answer.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Sorry if i offended you uprising2. Guess I am just a little over-suspicious given the information I've just received! Thanks for your replies.....I thought after the first 2 posts I got I was just going to be ridiculed and nobody was going to give me a real answer.:D

    No worries, I wasn't offended, you have to be thick skinned on this forum, you will be ridiculed here for saying anything away from the norm, even though it is CT, some people just come here to ridicule anything that bursts their little illusion bubble they are happy to live in.
    Look into "skull and bones" a satanic little group that includes a few ex presidents of the US.
    Welcome to the awakening, try stay sane along the the way, the rabbit hole runs deep.

    Here's a link posted in the links section, some good stuff there to mess up your view of the world.
    http://www.kokomotion.com/TWH/docs/library.html

    Links link
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=291444


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    I'd almost be happy if Rihanna turned out to be a devil-worshipper as it would be at least something interesting about an otherwise very bland individual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Wow thats a lot of videos there in that link!! I couldnt help noticing that Alex Jones "Fall of the Republic" was missing though.I think anybody starting off in their investigations should watch this.It really exposes the criminal enterprise we call government while not going too deep into the whole secret society subjects.A must watch.........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    a little depressing that everything I love always turns out to be evil.]

    If you're interested in all this CT stuff you should watch the esoteric agenda on youtube. Pay special attention to the last three videos. In fact skip the other 10 and go straight to 04:05 in video 11.

    I used to worry my self and get anxious about CTs until I watched this. If there really is a conspiracy then you are letting ''them'' win by letting it affect you and worry you. The only way to ''fight'' is to live your life in peace and love. If you fear and hate evil then you are only hurting yourself.
    Alex Jones and the like empower the very people they're trying to destroy by creating fear and hatred.

    The fact is you can't have good with out evil, light with out dark, hot with out cold, yes with out no, 1 with out 0, yin with out yang. If there was nothing but good in the world how would you know what good was with out having evil to compare it to? How stupid and boring would Batman be if he didn't have the evil Joker to fight. If there was one ultimate sports team that could never be beaten that sport would cease to exist. Even Brazil looses, even the All Blacks loose.

    The ''battle'' between good and evil will never be won, but will go on for eternity. It is merely shifting patterns of negative and positive, on and off, love and hate, yes and no, yin and yang, 1 and 0.

    A storm is a conflict between a cold front and a warm front. We don't see weather men blaming the evil warm front for attacking the good cold front.

    War is evil, how ever, far more lives have been saved by wartime medical developments (triage, surgery, etc) compared to the amount of lives war has taken. Therefore war is good.
    Medicine is good, how ever, how many murderers, rapists and jedwards has medicine saved? Millions. Therefore medicine is evil

    Don't let the fear of evil take something you love away from you. If Rihanna is ''Evil'' then she is doing the side of ''Goodness'' a favour by giving goodness something to fight against, therefore Rihanna is good.

    The ''battle'' between good and evil is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it like you would a film or else you'll drive your self and those around you crazy with conspiratorial rants. I've been there and done that. Now I focus on taking care of myself and the people I love and I enjoy life.

    Learn to be comfortable with contradiction. Evil is Good, Good is Evil

    If you want to get more into what I've been talking about I would recommend Allan Watts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    DeBunny wrote: »
    If you're interested in all this CT stuff you should watch the esoteric agenda on youtube. Pay special attention to the last three videos. In fact skip the other 10 and go straight to 04:05 in video 11.

    I used to worry my self and get anxious about CTs until I watched this. If there really is a conspiracy then you are letting ''them'' win by letting it affect you and worry you. The only way to ''fight'' is to live your life in peace and love. If you fear and hate evil then you are only hurting yourself.
    Alex Jones and the like empower the very people they're trying to destroy by creating fear and hatred.

    The fact is you can't have good with out evil, light with out dark, hot with out cold, yes with out no, 1 with out 0, yin with out yang. If there was nothing but good in the world how would you know what good was with out having evil to compare it to? How stupid and boring would Batman be if he didn't have the evil Joker to fight. If there was one ultimate sports team that could never be beaten that sport would cease to exist. Even Brazil looses, even the All Blacks loose.

    The ''battle'' between good and evil will never be won, but will go on for eternity. It is merely shifting patterns of negative and positive, on and off, love and hate, yes and no, yin and yang, 1 and 0.

    A storm is a conflict between a cold front and a warm front. We don't see weather men blaming the evil warm front for attacking the good cold front.

    War is evil, how ever, far more lives have been saved by wartime medical developments (triage, surgery, etc) compared to the amount of lives war has taken. Therefore war is good.
    Medicine is good, how ever, how many murderers, rapists and jedwards has medicine saved? Millions. Therefore medicine is evil

    Don't let the fear of evil take something you love away from you. If Rihanna is ''Evil'' then she is doing the side of ''Goodness'' a favour by giving goodness something to fight against, therefore Rihanna is good.

    The ''battle'' between good and evil is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it like you would a film or else you'll drive your self and those around you crazy with conspiratorial rants. I've been there and done that. Now I focus on taking care of myself and the people I love and I enjoy life.

    Learn to be comfortable with contradiction. Evil is Good, Good is Evil

    If you want to get more into what I've been talking about I would recommend Allan Watts.

    I like your way of looking at this, definitely a positive approach to a negative subject .......in particular since I bought tickets to see Rihanna for her May concert before I heard of all this stuff.....so I'd like to adhere to your approach and view her as good.....although perhaps that would be me showing a little too much support.....my depression is coming back....what do you think?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    I like your way of looking at this, definitely a positive approach to a negative subject

    I think you missed my point. Positive and negative are the same and you can't have one with out the other. If you notice in my earlier post I turned war into a positive and medicine into a negative.

    Become comfortable with contradiction.

    The glass isn't half full or half empty it's both and neither at the same time. It's about how you decide how to look at it.

    You can't have good with out evil and vice versa so do what makes you happy. Look after number one, love yourself and create goodness in your own life and that will spread to others.

    I'm starting to sound like a hippy now but early morning waffling will do that.
    Just have a listen to the likes of Dr wayne Dyer, Deepak Chopra and Allan Watts instead of Alex Jones, etc.

    My basic point is that good and evil will never defeat each other so do what feels good to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Good is Evil, and Evil is Good?, WTF?, Good is Good and Evil is Evil, that's a way of accepting evil, fukking people being blown to pieces in war is good?, people starving while buzzards look on is good?, we don't need evil to balance fukking anything, what this world need's is less of that new age bullsh1t and a fukking reality check, evil is bad, always has been, always will be, it's ok to say evil is good, just as long as some evil basstard doesnt do anything to you, if an evil basstard came to your house and tortured and killed your family, chopped them up, how would you balance that out as good?, listen this BS is great just aslong as your ok with evil, and accept evil, give evil a great big hug and show it who's boss, evil is a force that must be destroyed from this planet one way or the other. Mankind has repeatedly been made do evil things by evil men who fool them into doing them, war is an example.
    Although I know these things must be, I cannot simply accept them and let evil become even more normal than it already is, people must resist evil not see it as good, we all know right from wrong, same as good from evil, I cannot say right is wrong and wrong is right, that's for a twisted mind to do, "It was wrong of me to kill that child, therefore it was right, without doing it what could I compare it too", NO it was fukking wrong, so bottom line is evil is evil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Futureadvocate


    Well considering that the Devil has all the best tunes i would say that it's highly unlikely that these two twits are Devil worshippers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Just to assure you it aint the clan making this nonsense up.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Thats an excelent Post DaBunny

    @Dull & Boring, welcome to the Forum have a look around, there are stages we all go through as we research the Truth, eventuallyyou will get a better handle on it and life wont be SO Depressing


    @ Uprising, Right and wrong, good and Evil, they are Subjective, I think tyhats what Dabunny means, but you are right about the intent being the issue.
    as for the balance from someone murdering your Family, I am reminded of an aulfella from Eniskillen called Gordon Wilson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Thats an excelent Post DaBunny

    @Dull & Boring, welcome to the Forum have a look around, there are stages we all go through as we research the Truth, eventuallyyou will get a better handle on it and life wont be SO Depressing


    @ Uprising, Right and wrong, good and Evil, they are Subjective, I think tyhats what Dabunny means, but you are right about the intent being the issue.
    as for the balance from someone murdering your Family, I am reminded of an aulfella from Eniskillen called Gordon Wilson.

    I have great respect for Gordon Wilson, and he was a strong man, a forgiving man, but ultimately a good man, there wasn't an ounce of evil in the man, he forgave and prayed for his daughters killers.

    I think dabunny is delving into white witch/ nature goddess territory there, which is another form of devil worship, I'm sorry, but I cannot and won't accept anything that takes away from God as good, evil happens when good men do nothing, if I happen to be in a position to stop somebody from doing something bad to another, I will stop them, I will not accept it and balance it by handing out love hearts on O'Connell street.

    Sorry this thread has been derailed, dull and boring get used to it here.
    Here's your thread........sorry
    train_wreck-782867.jpg


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    OK Besides the GodBotherin aspects we share a similar philosophy, but I dont subscribe to this God v The Divvil eternal battle malarky, we Humans are ultimatley the be all and end all of the situation, Morals, Good/Evil Right and Wrong are all Human constructs and as such are very maleable, just look at History, then look at nature, the Lion dosent Feel Guilt for the Wildebeast, the Wildebeast Feels Fear tho, so thats what drives the whople thing FEAR.




    Anyway Back OT Rhianna/Gaga Et Al are products of MassMarketinMediaManupulation.

    We are givin them Free advertisin by discussin their Sh1te, Apparently that GaGa yoke is Number one here In Australia, I heard the song A Couple of days ago, does anyone remember a time when Songs had Lyrics instead of Random Ramblings


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    uprising2 wrote: »
    I think dabunny is delving into white witch/ nature goddess territory there, which is another form of devil worship,

    Uh.......? That would be funny if it wasn't genuinely sad. It's carry on like this that gives CTists their wack job image. It's obvious from my posts that I don't "worship" any thing and there was never a mention of any thing pagan. Your comment was a crass demonstration of your willful ignorance. If you want to comment on my posts at least read them properly.

    And as for your video of the preacher playing the reversed songs, yes I am now convinced that other people are making this nonsense up. Judging by the looks on their faces, I think the congregation would agree with me.

    I would have to agree with Mahatma coat (my hat and my coat, just got it). If JayZ's PR people were reading this now they would be rubbing there hands with glee. The more likely conspiracy is that all this devil worship symbollix is a sophisticated PR stunt. Perhaps a subtler version of Marilyn Manson's PR campaign.
    The fear and hatred of devil worship is the exact thing that give's it its power. The good reverend, by playing JayZ in his church, is empowering JayZ and giving him some the best publicity possible. JayZ's PR people truly understand the power of positive and negative and how to manipulate it.
    Dull and Boring started this thread because he was fearful of devil worship and thereby by created even more free publicity for JayZ etc. How many thousands of extra hits has JayZ's website and videos gotten because of conversations like this?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    DeBunny wrote: »
    I think you missed my point. Positive and negative are the same and you can't have one with out the other. If you notice in my earlier post I turned war into a positive and medicine into a negative.

    Become comfortable with contradiction.

    The glass isn't half full or half empty it's both and neither at the same time. It's about how you decide how to look at it.

    You can't have good with out evil and vice versa so do what makes you happy. Look after number one, love yourself and create goodness in your own life and that will spread to others.

    I'm starting to sound like a hippy now but early morning waffling will do that.
    Just have a listen to the likes of Dr wayne Dyer, Deepak Chopra and Allan Watts instead of Alex Jones, etc.

    My basic point is that good and evil will never defeat each other so do what feels good to you.

    Whether you know it or not, you yourself are advertising the ideals of modern satanism - "do what makes you happy" i.e. hedonism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Yea they are open to members of different religious faiths, hindu, buddah, roman catholics are not allowed join although strangely the vatican is run by freemasons. And look into the initiation a little maybe, what man of God would be into that satanic sh1t?.

    As I understand it, only monotheists are allowed join, so Hindus are out. Buddhists too.

    Catholics are prevented by the rules of Catholicism from joining Masonic orders, not by any Masonic rules.

    To clarify, what do you mean when you say Satanism? Do you mean worship of Satan? What does it entail?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭DeBunny


    Whether you know it or not, you yourself are advertising the ideals of modern satanism - "do what makes you happy" i.e. hedonism

    Eh.. you're missing the point. This seems to be a recurring theme on this thread. There is a lack and logic and reason here. (What else should I have expected?)
    I say again, make an effort to understand what I've written and don't just see what you want to see.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    DeBunny wrote: »
    I think you missed my point. Positive and negative are the same and you can't have one with out the other. If you notice in my earlier post I turned war into a positive and medicine into a negative.

    Become comfortable with contradiction.

    The glass isn't half full or half empty it's both and neither at the same time. It's about how you decide how to look at it.

    You can't have good with out evil and vice versa so do what makes you happy. Look after number one, love yourself and create goodness in your own life and that will spread to others.

    I'm starting to sound like a hippy now but early morning waffling will do that.
    Just have a listen to the likes of Dr wayne Dyer, Deepak Chopra and Allan Watts instead of Alex Jones, etc.

    My basic point is that good and evil will never defeat each other so do what feels good to you.

    Chopra woo isn't for me, woo woo nonsense.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    DeBunny wrote: »
    Eh.. you're missing the point. This seems to be a recurring theme on this thread. There is a lack and logic and reason here. (What else should I have expected?)
    I say again, make an effort to understand what I've written and don't just see what you want to see.

    Satanism is a very broad term. In fact some satanist groups are atheist.

    The central theme of this group is that they accept the inherent flaws of man, and don't try to be perfect, but rather embrace the nature of man, and as you put it, do what makes you happy. See LeVeyan Satanism. Its pretty close to what you've been posting about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Undergod wrote: »
    As I understand it, only monotheists are allowed join, so Hindus are out. Buddhists too.

    Catholics are prevented by the rules of Catholicism from joining Masonic orders, not by any Masonic rules.

    To clarify, what do you mean when you say Satanism? Do you mean worship of Satan? What does it entail?

    We are Masons, but we are also Christians, Jews, Buddhists and members of various faiths and beliefs.
    http://www.thaifreemason.com/pollresults.htm

    Yes catholics are prevented by the vatican, which is run by mason's, isn't it ironic.

    satanism, has different forms, like christianity, all christians are not the same, and yes the ritual worship of satan, black masses, child sacrifice etc, although some satanists claim not to worship a deity, yet have rituals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Dull and Boring


    DeBunny wrote: »
    Dull and Boring started this thread because he was fearful of devil worship and thereby by created even more free publicity for JayZ etc. How many thousands of extra hits has JayZ's website and videos gotten because of conversations like this?

    First of all.....it's she!:P

    Second...I'm not fearful, I'm curious....there's a difference! I don't believe myself to be easily influenced by it. We're all influenced constantly by advertising anyway and are for the most part completely oblivious to that. I studied Marketing and the evidence of that is clear. In fact it would be difficult to determine what society would be like now without all these subliminal influences via marketing and music. We're all puppets unfortunately.

    Thirdly, it's not my intention to promote Jay-Z by talking about it. Would you have preferred me to keep quiet, not question what I'd heard and continued oblivious and in doing so had avoided promoting Jay-Z??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    First of all.....it's she!:P

    Second...I'm not fearful, I'm curious....there's a difference! I don't believe myself to be easily influenced by it. We're all influenced constantly by advertising anyway and are for the most part completely oblivious to that. I studied Marketing and the evidence of that is clear. In fact it would be difficult to determine what society would be like now without all these subliminal influences via marketing and music. We're all puppets unfortunately.

    Thirdly, it's not my intention to promote Jay-Z by talking about it. Would you have preferred me to keep quiet, not question what I'd heard and continued oblivious and in doing so had avoided promoting Jay-Z??

    Well said Miss!, and your not dull and boring after all, question everything!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    DeBunny wrote: »
    Eh.. you're missing the point. This seems to be a recurring theme on this thread. There is a lack and logic and reason here. (What else should I have expected?)
    I say again, make an effort to understand what I've written and don't just see what you want to see.
    Make an effort to be polite!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    uprising2 wrote: »
    It was a gift from french freemason's to american freemasons.

    I bet it came with a really sinister mob style gift tag that said "From our brothers to your brothers".:D

    Alleged devil worship is nothing new in the music business, from Paganini (18th century violin maker and maestro) to Mick Jagger (Sympathy for the Devil), AC/DC (satanism in schoolboy shorts), now JayZ and Lady GaGa. It baffles me that the devil-worshipping stunt still shocks people!

    I hate to say this, but look at any decent old building in this town and there's a good chance the Freemasons had a hand in designing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Emme wrote: »
    I bet it came with a really sinister mob style gift tag that said "From our brothers to your brothers".:D

    Alleged devil worship is nothing new in the music business, from Paganini (18th century violin maker and maestro) to Mick Jagger (Sympathy for the Devil), AC/DC (satanism in schoolboy shorts), now JayZ and Lady GaGa. It baffles me that the devil-worshipping stunt still shocks people!

    I hate to say this, but look at any decent old building in this town and there's a good chance the Freemasons had a hand in designing it.

    Very true and sadly I agree with everything you say, I'm not sad I agree with you, just sad it's true, and yes they did design our grand oul buildings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Yes catholics are prevented by the vatican, which is run by mason's, isn't it ironic.

    satanism, has different forms, like christianity, all christians are not the same, and yes the ritual worship of satan, black masses, child sacrifice etc, although some satanists claim not to worship a deity, yet have rituals.

    Well some of them are atheist yeah. What sort are Jay-Z and Rihanna? So what if they are Satanist? As long as they're not the child-sacrifice sort, what's the problem with them having their own religious beliefs? If they are the child-sacrifice sort, then take issue with that and show us evidence that they kill children, rather than just (alleged) evidence that they are Satanic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    I dont think we can doubt that they worship a something in there music.
    I notice that nearly all of these "stars" are involved with bahomet symbolism in there videos and album pictures.
    Like the Rhianna umbrella video where she is inside a triangle in the shape of Bahomet(obviously photoshopped) 2 pointing up 2 pointing down (as above so below).
    Or the umbrella poster where is spells sex between her and the umbrella makes me sure that i wasnt being silly thinking she or her handlers are attempting to control her fans.
    Ah il just let lennon honor do the talking :)
    http://www.lenonhonorfilms.com/TheWorkingsOfEvilPart1.html

    Also http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/11/rihanna-imprisoned-mannekitten.html covers Rhianna, although i have not read this piece yet i am sure it will be entertaining and/or informative.

    Some things for people to note.
    In movies and music videos a Monarch butterfly is ussually symbolic of mind control and a change of personality or allegiance.

    Black and white checkered squares are considered special to freemasons because of the dualism i think.This doesnt mean all black and white chequered squares are evil just that in cases like the lady gagas video about her papas rocket it ties in well with other symbolisms in that video. (italian translation of song titled Papa Razzi iirc).
    For more info see http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/05/lady-gagas-dissociation-from-papas.html

    Heres a piece on Christina Aguilera who i think started out in the disney camps along with Britney Spears and many more.
    http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2010_01_01_archive.html

    Now i think it is pretty clear there is a trend occuring.And its fair to say those people should be free to have there own beliefs and even act on them....as long as they do no harm to or limit another humans growth or wellbeing.
    This is where i like to stand seperate from most people i know.
    Alot who see this satanic influence will dissmiss it as a stunt for publicity?
    Or something else, im not sure what excuse warrants what i have seen...i just cant think of any really,apart from the obvious to me.

    I honestly believe that all this subliminal material IS effecting people on a crazy scale.Its so extreme in my eyes the changes in the last 10 years its laughable.I remember the days when i could look up a dating site and most people would be registered as straight.
    Nowadays the majority or women seem to be bi-sexual like its a cool way to be(i have noticed a massive rise in this trend around ireland myself too)..not quite understanding where its cool but i could probably guess
    this latest cool way to be is directly and inderictly the cause of the media.
    Anyone remember Britney and Madonna kissing on stage?
    Tons of music and music stars are guiding young fans into there future models.
    I believe there is an effect on the mind when repeating song lyrics that have double meaning,especially when they come with a subliminal video.
    I would guess that the subconcious sees what you dont and takes it in.
    The brain after all can only conciously cope with 7 things at a time iirc.
    That might be why you can bypass the concious mind by flashing fast images or using images hidden in plain sight,which appeal to the subconcious brain imo because of the picture inside the picture type symbolism or pattern but isnt noticeable to the concious unless you are looking.Sometimes its so fast i dont even see them without pausing.

    Remember the phrase you are what you eat?
    Well i am starting to think you are what you watch/listen to.
    Next time you hear someone sing along with Rhianna or katy Perry have a think about the lyrics and what effect they might have on teenagers and kids who are exposed to this hypnotic media and repeat it within themselves!
    It doesnt matter to me if they want to worship Satan,Rainman,Bahomet etc
    It does matter when that corrupt influence spreads to Kids and in effect corrupts there minds teaching them to have a belief system (which imo is severely flawed!) at such a young age when in my opinion someone should not have such a system imprinted at all but should be reserved until old enough to understand not only the information put before them but also what goes on behind that.
    It really really is like the matrix.I mean that symbolically not literally :P
    Theres what you see in plain sight and then theres this whole other world of sh1t going on with so many levels to it.


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