M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

Sam Russell · 22-08-2018 9:29am

jordata wrote: »

This article says "the Gorey to Enniscorthy bypass road is ready to open in the coming weeks".

Didn't look that near completion at all last time I was out that side. Are they opening it in sections? Hardly.

Are there local elections next May?

That is a FF councillor quoted in that article.

L1011 · 22-08-2018 9:35am

Sam Russell wrote: »

Are there local elections next May?

That is a FF councillor quoted in that article.

Yes.

FF Councillors in Wexford are claiming credit for the entire project going ahead (posts passim here) when it was authorised under a previous Government they had zero influence on and with the final decision strangely enough being made by a Minister from Wexford...

kneemos · 22-08-2018 10:37am

Wexford County Council has applied for funding.

VR6 · 22-08-2018 10:44am

Yes the motorway will be open in weeks - 50 weeks !!!
Weasel words as ever....

serfboard · 22-08-2018 1:40pm

kneemos wrote: »

https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/enniscorthy-guardian/20180821/283948883460045

That "article" has all the hallmarks of a simple a copy-and-paste from a press release by a lone councillor.

"I am calling on the Gubbermint" yadda yadda etc. etc. yawn.

Typical pisspoor county council stuff that you see up and down the country. Unfortunately local media has been downgraded so much that they can't afford to employ journalists so all you get is interns copy-and-pasting press releases.

m17 · 22-08-2018 7:47pm

Drone shots from the m11gote.ie website August 18

m17 · 22-08-2018 8:04pm

VR6 wrote: »

I'm not on the ground, but from the pictures some parts look almost finished while others are barely excavated.
Shades of the M17/M18 when it was one year from completion ?

Here is the m17 at sheeaunpark 01/03/17

27/09/17

Cantona's Collars · 04-09-2018 4:00pm

Hard to get new photos but the word is that all structures are completed.

Lackey · 08-09-2018 6:25pm

I cant wait for this and the New Ross bypass to be up and running.

marno21 · 18-09-2018 1:54am

M11 Gorey-Enniscorthy Newsletter Issue 11 September 2018:

https://www.m11gtoe.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/11-m11-Enniscorthy-WEB-corrected.pdf

Fair play to the author:

We are aware of the public interest on this important project and we would like to thank the people, who through forums like Boards.ie and other platforms are following the progress of the works and how the construction activities are changing the landscape of the area

josip · 18-09-2018 9:58am

marno21 wrote: »

M11 Gorey-Enniscorthy Newsletter Issue 11 September 2018:

https://www.m11gtoe.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/11-m11-Enniscorthy-WEB-corrected.pdf

Fair play to the author:

I read that as 'Boardsies, we know who you are, and we're watching you."

Donegal Storm · 18-09-2018 11:57am

The following two paragraphs should probably be emphasised as well!

It is also very important to be aware that the land being developed for the M11 Gorey to Enniscorthy project is not open to the public until the road is completed.

There are significant dangers that could be present on a construction site, especially at this stage of the works with multiple construction crews and subcontractors on site, working on earthworks, drainage, pavement, barriers and finishing works, resulting in heavy construction trafic.

jd · 18-09-2018 3:32pm

Here's one in today's Wexford People from 40 years ago (BTW Noel Dillon was generally quite progressive)

Enniscorthy ring road is ‘unlikely’
September 1978

A campaign by Councillor Andy Doyle for a byepass road of Enniscorthy that would run from Scarawalsh and via the Milehouse area, to join up with the New Ross road, has been deemed ‘unlikely to every happen’.

Cllr Doyle’s alternative plan, that traffic bound for New Ross should travel from Blackstoops via Summerhill, the Duffry, Patrick Street, and Ross Road, on an ‘unofficial’ ring road route, instead of going right through the town centre and out the other side, has also been labelled ‘unworkable’.

..

Mr Doyle concluded by saying that the large volume of heavy traffic was seriously undermining foundations of houses in several parts of Enniscorthy. He said he was aware of gaps in the foundation of houses in the Island Road.

The Co. Manager (Mr. Noel Dillon) said there was no doubt that ‘ideally’ they could ‘ring’ or bye-pass Enniscorthy, but there was little use in spending much time talking about it now because of the sheer lack of funding. In fact, he thought it unlikely that such a plan would ever go ahead.

josip · 18-09-2018 4:46pm

In 1978 the country hadn't 2 shillings to rub together.
And it got worse before it got better.
One upside of waiting this long is that it's gotten a proper by pass and not some ring road effort obstructed with 20 traffic lights and roundabouts which is what it would have gotten back in the 80s.

The same goes for New Ross which at one stage was going to get a concrete pipe under the river between Raheen and Marshmeadows.

Cantona's Collars · 30-09-2018 8:16pm

A huge amount of the road has been tarred. Even one carraigeway down near the Oylegate end,they were still driving diggers along the haul road there only last week.
I was told that they are way ahead of schedule,if the weather is kind over the winter this project should be ready well before the projected finish time.

Cantona's Collars · 07-10-2018 11:41pm

The project is well ahead of schedule and could be open by April.

Nate--IRL-- · 07-10-2018 11:49pm

Just want to say thanks for the updates CC, much appreciated.

Nate

Cantona's Collars · 08-10-2018 9:00am

Nate--IRL-- wrote: »

Just want to say thanks for the updates CC, much appreciated.

Nate

It's gotten harder to get pictures of new areas of the scheme as security is so tight on it. The main interchange just outside Enniscorthy takes up nearly 30 acres of land but is nigh on impossible to get to due to it's location and 24 hour security as so much plant is parked there.

m17 · 11-10-2018 1:06pm

September 2018 pics form the m11gtoe.ie website

Silent Running · 13-10-2018 6:46pm

Hi all, Anyone got a copy of the detail drawings of the junctions? I had a copy, but it seems to have got lost between old and new laptops. The early link to wexford.ie goes to 404.

Thanks.

MichealD · 15-10-2018 2:13pm

Silent Running wrote: »

Hi all, Anyone got a copy of the detail drawings of the junctions? I had a copy, but it seems to have got lost between old and new laptops. The early link to wexford.ie goes to 404.

Thanks.

I noticed that those links were broken last week.

This one seems to be working now. Detail drawings at the end.

https://www.wexfordcoco.ie/largefiles/M11_Gorey_EIS/M11%20G2E%20EIS%20Volume%201%20NTS.pdf

Silent Running · 15-10-2018 3:08pm

MichealD wrote: »

I noticed that those links were broken last week.

This one seems to be working now. Detail drawings at the end.

https://www.wexfordcoco.ie/largefiles/M11_Gorey_EIS/M11%20G2E%20EIS%20Volume%201%20NTS.pdf

Perfect! Thank you.

MichealD · 15-10-2018 3:36pm

Its great to see so much progress on the project but I'd reckon April finish is optimistic.

Just around Enniscorthy end there are new on line roundabouts which haven't started construction yet on N30 at Clohass, R702 at Milehouse, N11/N80 at Scarawalsh and on the N11 at Oylegate. I don't think the new on line roundabout to be built on the end of the existing M11 at Clogh/Frankfort has begun yet either (open to correction). Given winter and traffic management issues I wouldn't imagine they will be the quickest builds.

It will be interesting to see how much can be completed in the next 6 months. Looking forward to it being completed.

kneemos · 15-10-2018 3:49pm

MichealD wrote: »

Its great to see so much progress on the project but I'd reckon April finish is optimistic.

Just around Enniscorthy end there are new on line roundabouts which haven't started construction yet on N30 at Clohass, R702 at Milehouse, N11/N80 at Scarawalsh and on the N11 at Oylegate. I don't think the new on line roundabout to be built on the end of the existing M11 at Clogh/Frankfort has begun yet either (open to correction). Given winter and traffic management issues I wouldn't imagine they will be the quickest builds.

It will be interesting to see how much can be completed in the next 6 months. Looking forward to it being completed.

Wouldn't take long to knock out a roundabout I'd imagine.
The two at Scarwalsh will be extremely close to each other though

Chris_5339762 · 17-10-2018 4:32pm

The mainline might well open in 6 months, they just have to do the tie-ins apart from finishing the mainline part. The N80 bit and all the connecting stuff can wait. Get the M11 bit open, Enniscorthy unclogs anyway and the rest of the project can follow a touch later.

Bigus · 18-10-2018 8:47am

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

The mainline might well open in 6 months, they just have to do the tie-ins apart from finishing the mainline part. The N80 bit and all the connecting stuff can wait. Get the M11 bit open, Enniscorthy unclogs anyway and the rest of the project can follow a touch later.

No advantage to the contractor to open parts early , this only causes health and safety, security, and logistics issues, which are a no no in 2018. They'll be completely finished on time however, as they've more resources to throw at less and less issues.

Cantona's Collars · 23-10-2018 12:49pm

Farmers protesting on parts of the scheme. According to SE Radio there's a pond for runoff near Camolin that's leaking into land.
Gates aren't right somewhere else.

oceanman · 23-10-2018 2:02pm

Bigus wrote: »

No advantage to the contractor to open parts early , this only causes health and safety, security, and logistics issues, which are a no no in 2018. They'll be completely finished on time however, as they've more resources to throw at less and less issues.

there may be a built in bonus in the contract for finishing early.

Cantona's Collars · 23-10-2018 3:47pm

oceanman wrote: »

there may be a built in bonus in the contract for finishing early.

€1.3 million per month penalty clause if there's an over run.

oceanman · 23-10-2018 3:53pm

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

€1.3 million per month penalty clause if there's an over run.

yeah that as well im sure..

kneemos · 23-10-2018 7:02pm

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Farmers protesting on parts of the scheme. According to SE Radio there's a pond for runoff near Camolin that's leaking into land.
Gates aren't right somewhere else.

One of them had a flood in June apparently.

Where there's a farmer there's a grievance.

http://enniscorthyguardian.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/iphone/homepage.aspx#_article53e657ec-c5f1-4424-a883-99eb30107338/waarticle53e657ec-c5f1-4424-a883-99eb30107338/53e657ec-c5f1-4424-a883-99eb30107338/0/true

L1011 · 23-10-2018 8:25pm

oceanman wrote: »

there may be a built in bonus in the contract for finishing early.

Was stopped years ago as tenders were deliberately over-estimating so they would get the "early completion bonuses"

Now its fines for not delivering on time. Still lets tenderers overestimate but at zero cost to the state.

kneemos · 25-10-2018 7:02am

kneemos wrote: »

One of them had a flood in June apparently.

Where there's a farmer there's a grievance.

http://enniscorthyguardian.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/iphone/homepage.aspx#_article53e657ec-c5f1-4424-a883-99eb30107338/waarticle53e657ec-c5f1-4424-a883-99eb30107338/53e657ec-c5f1-4424-a883-99eb30107338/0/true

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/third-blockade-in-place-as-wexford-farmers-up-the-ante/

When one blockade doesn't work.

serfboard · 25-10-2018 1:58pm

kneemos wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/third-blockade-in-place-as-wexford-farmers-up-the-ante/

When one blockade doesn't work.

To me, there's only two possibilities here:

1. Farmers in Wexford are exceptionally unrealistic or demanding, compared to farmers in other parts of the country, or

2. The company is not doing what it committed to do.

I don't think the first is likely, so it looks like the second to me:

Farmers want the deals that had been agreed initially to be carried out as originally planned.

and

farmers are frustrated as the road construction company is “making no effort whatsoever to cooperate with farmers”.

Murphy said that, to date, requests to meet with BAM Construction have received no response.

Reuben1210 · 25-10-2018 2:30pm

It's ridiculous that some of the subbies and workers on the scheme are getting into the photo-op too!

serfboard · 25-10-2018 2:35pm

Reuben1210 wrote: »

It's ridiculous that some of the subbies and workers on the scheme are getting into the photo-op too!

It's also possible that some of the farmers are subbies!

JohnC. · 25-10-2018 4:57pm

Is it actually BAM they would be talking to, or TII (or whoever is in overall charge)?

MichealD · 25-10-2018 5:04pm

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/agreement-reached-between-wexford-farmers-and-bam-construction/

Agreement reached between Wexford farmers and BAM Construction.

Cantona's Collars · 27-10-2018 4:21pm

MichealD wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/agreement-reached-between-wexford-farmers-and-bam-construction/

Agreement reached between Wexford farmers and BAM Construction.

According to one farmer that I know,the head man for BAM on the project was refusing to meet them until his hand was forced by the blockades stopping work.
Work is continuing today on parts of the project by what I can only assume are the Portuguese workers as all the Irish lads have their vehicles and equipment parked up.

Cantona's Collars · 31-10-2018 4:11pm

Work back in full swing as BAM and farmers reach agreement.

thethinker · 09-11-2018 2:18pm

Does anyone have a proper map or text detailing the interchange with the R744. Looking at the crudely drawn map on the Wex CoCo website, it looks like you can't join the motorway, and can only exit if travellinging south.

Silent Running · 09-11-2018 4:26pm

MichealD wrote: »

I noticed that those links were broken last week.

This one seems to be working now. Detail drawings at the end.

https://www.wexfordcoco.ie/largefiles/M11_Gorey_EIS/M11%20G2E%20EIS%20Volume%201%20NTS.pdf

I asked this recently and the quoted post has the link for a detailed map.

The junction can be accessed by a 2 way link road.

Edit, just tried that link again and it seems to be dead. I'll try to find the PDF. I'm sure I downloaded it.

IsaBrown · 09-11-2018 4:49pm

Silent Running wrote: »

I asked this recently and the quoted post has the link for a detailed map.

The junction can be accessed by a 2 way link road.

Edit, just tried that link again and it seems to be dead. I'll try to find the PDF. I'm sure I downloaded it.

You won't be able to join the motorway directly from the roundabout at finchouge/oulart road. There'll be a link road, running parallel to the motorway, to the ballydawmore junction where you can then go north/south on m11 or link up to n80

MichealD · 09-11-2018 4:51pm

thethinker wrote: »

Does anyone have a proper map or text detailing the interchange with the R744. Looking at the crudely drawn map on the Wex CoCo website, it looks like you can't join the motorway, and can only exit if travellinging south.

Thats correct. Exit only from the motorway to the R744 at Tomnafunshoge. A road parallel to the motorway however will bring you from this R744 junction to the Ballydawmore junction where you can access the M11 north or southbound or on the the N30/N80 link road.

kneemos · 09-11-2018 4:57pm

Not a great design if you've got to travel all the way North to the interchange to backtrack south.

MichealD · 09-11-2018 5:28pm

kneemos wrote: »

Not a great design if you've got to travel all the way North to the interchange to backtrack south.

Its probably less than 2 kms to the Ballydawmore junction. Will still be much quicker than the current situation if heading south to Wexford from that point.

thethinker · 09-11-2018 10:21pm

So I reckon anyone from east side of town will use the R744 to access/exit the motorway. I wonder if people from the west side will do the same or use scarawalsh roundabout instead - definitely longer but perhaps quicker.

Cantona's Collars · 12-11-2018 3:40pm

thethinker wrote: »

So I reckon anyone from east side of town will use the R744 to access/exit the motorway. I wonder if people from the west side will do the same or use scarawalsh roundabout instead - definitely longer but perhaps quicker.

Probably handier to use the existing N11 to Scarawalsh or the Monart interchange to get onto the N30 section then travel along it to Scarawalsh and on to the M11.

m17 · 14-11-2018 1:43pm

The n80 Slaney crossing October 18 pics form the m11gtoe.ie website

m17 · 15-11-2018 1:01pm

The m11 30/10/18

M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

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