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Season 6 Episode 5 "The Door" - "Non book readers"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    That was an epic episode. The season has been on an upward curve, I really enjoyed episode 4 also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    It wasn't actually "hold the door". It was hold the Dorne, as in, please don't ever resurrect that awful plot again.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Richard E Grant's cameo was very cute.

    Kevin Eldon also, the episode was already great and then... that all kicked off.

    I burst out laughing when the wolf died, pure trolling the animal loving viewers. It was a nervous laugh though. Those walkers give me the heebie-jeebies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭North of 32


    I'm nit picking because it was a great episode, but if the guy in the tree knew the Night King was coming for Bran, why were the two of them just lazing around in Winterfell's courtyard doing literally nothing. It was a weak way to set up the Hodor thing - we already knew Ned was sent to the Vale so it's not like Bran was learning something critical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Walter E GO


    386635.jpg:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,019 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Seems George R. R. Martin almost let slip Hodor's name origin a few years back...

    https://ventrellaquest.com/tag/what-hodor-really-means/

    That gives me faith at least that Martin has the whole complete story mapped out in his head, even small details, from an early stage, and this is not going to end up like "Lost" where the writers hadnt a breeze where they were going with it and it all turned to crap eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,089 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    between Connacht winning at the weekend and "Hold the Door" I've my quota for tears firmly met..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 55 ✭✭polluxspiky


    10/10 on that one.
    So Bran messed up Hodor for his own ends. No good guys in this are there?
    There was even something worth seeing in Meereen this week! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Anyone else get Aliens vibes near the end?

    The bit where Vasquez stays back with the grenade.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 55 ✭✭polluxspiky


    I burst out laughing when the wolf died, pure trolling the animal loving viewers. It was a nervous laugh though. Those walkers give me the heebie-jeebies.
    Not even sure what the point was there. Didn't seem to even buy a second for Bran.
    The Stark wolves have been overall a bit of a letdown IMO.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 55 ✭✭polluxspiky


    Falthyron wrote: »
    Either that, or the King believes Bran could be a threat to his plans. Perhaps he knows Bran could possibly change the past and eliminate the Whitewalker threat before it came to be?
    Well he should have done that while he had access to the tree. He can still warg (and maybe has other powers) but interacting with the past was tree only surely?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 55 ✭✭polluxspiky


    Essien wrote: »
    If the Night King could grab Bran, then surely he could have killed him no?

    I'm not sure it's as simple as them just wanting him dead. I agree with whoever said they want his power.
    Yeah, well old tree guy might have explained to Bran about touching in the dream world at some stage mightn't he? They've been there for bloody years and he never thought to mention it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I don't usually check this board.

    I came here to say Hodor.

    Hodor!

    Right, I'm off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭TooMuchWork


    I'm nit picking because it was a great episode, but if the guy in the tree knew the Night King was coming for Bran, why were the two of them just lazing around in Winterfell's courtyard doing literally nothing. It was a weak way to set up the Hodor thing - we already knew Ned was sent to the Vale so it's not like Bran was learning something critical.

    The Game of Thrones universe is in a continuous loop. Wyllis became Hodor because Bran was in the Winterfell courtyard during the White Walker invasion. The Three-eyed-raven brought Bran to Winterfell in order to keep the loop going. If he didn't bring him there then Wyllis would never have become Hodor. The events that happen in Game of Thrones are already set in stone, there is no changing them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭TooMuchWork


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    Does this explain the Hodor/Wyllis thing and why Bran was in the Courtyard during the White Walker invasion for anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭leggo


    Love when TV shows do time travel and it sparks conversations like this...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭youreadthat


    A moment of silence please. :eek::(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Well that hour just shot by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Ned, Robb, Cat, Grey Wind, Oberyn.

    None of them hurt as much as that did. Poor Hodor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,204 ✭✭✭PressRun


    What's the story with the voice Varys heard in the fire? Something creepy going on there.

    Also, if the Night King wanted to harness the kind of power that Bran has, couldn't they have just used the Three-Eyed Raven? I think they must see Bran and his ilk as a threat of some sort.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭leonil7


    meera possibly turns every weapon into valyrian.

    meera-spear.gif

    i mean its possibly not the sword or the spear, but the hand who wields it.


    jon-snow-white-walker.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    leonil7 wrote: »
    meera possibly turns every weapon into valyrian.

    meera-spear.gif

    i mean its possibly not the sword or the spear, but the hand who wields it.


    jon-snow-white-walker.gif

    It's dragon glass, just like Sam killed the Walker back in Season 2. Nothing more to it.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As a non-book reader I'm very confused by this timey-wimey stuff.

    Also I'm still lost about who the man in the tree was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭podgemonster


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    On the time travel, I believe he changes the past however its already set what will happen in destiny so he took over Hodor in past possibly by mistake as he heard them saying it in future. Hodor while didn't happen for Bran yet had always grown up with Hodor being affected by the takeover.

    Super episode, interested in seeing more of the Red Woman, so Iron Islands are not at civil war with some going, interesting to see where this comes back into things or will it fade out now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭OneOfThem Stumbled


    That was the first good episode this season. As usual it starts slow and builds towards a crescendo in episode 9 (last year they went off a bit early with Hardhome).

    For the first time I liked the inclusion of the children of the forest. They seem to have purpose now: but I'd love a glimpse of the war between them and men that they spoke of
    All we have is a couple of lines of backstory in the histories and lore videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-5onS0XB68

    I have no idea why I think that grenades in a fantasy setting are okay, but those were genuinely great.

    Littlefinger travelling the equivalent distance from Miami to New York in a day was slightly immersion breaking: but getting politics on screen is a good thing.

    Can't see how Bran and Meera can realistically survive. Imagine being in the equivalent of northern Norway, in a forest, in winter, at night, being chased by an army of zombies (with only a minute or two head start), one of you being a cripple, and there isn't a living human for a hundred miles? Hmm.

    Also, all the Hordor memes died last night.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Kind of funny how the new priestess is called after a village in Galway. I wonder does she have a little black donkey as a familiar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Also, all the Hordor memes died last night.

    And he never did get to say 'Women's Rights' in the end…

    http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/if-only-once-it-would-be-nice-if-hodor-said-womens-2235


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    It's dragon glass, just like Sam killed the Walker back in Season 2. Nothing more to it.

    Just reading the game of thrones wiki, Sam gave them weapons from beyond the wall made of dragon glass when they met in Season 3.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭PetKing


    Reading the books or not makes no difference to your understanding of what Bran sees.





    The 3 eyed raven communicated with Bran from the beginning, and has been awaiting his arrival north of the wall for some time. Obviously he saw some potential in him to hone his warging and seeing abilities and wanted to train him. Some people just have a connection to the earth and the heart trees, like the raven and Bran.


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