Eir rural FTTH thread

Gonzo · 27-04-2016 01:05PM

pegasus1 wrote: »

What about the rest of the blue lines (200,000)Gonzo? just because you'll be laughing at the rest of us minions in a few months...:eek:

I was just refering to the first 100,000 as that has a completion of only 10 months away and very little sign of much ground work carried out so far! The quicker the 100,000 homes are done, the quicker the other 200,000 will follow!

If Eir really are committed they will finish the first 100,000 by March 2017 and hopefully sometime around Christmas or early January may announce the second phase of another 100,000.

plodder · 27-04-2016 03:34PM

Update on the website

http://fibrerollout.ie/open-eir-maintains-commitment-2020-fibre-rollout-plan/

... The change to the Department’s timelines, does not affect open eir’s Rural Fibre Rollout Plan announced in June 2015 which added 300,000 premises across rural Ireland to our already extensive network. We remain focussed in our efforts to bring high speed broadband to communities across Ireland as quickly as possible....

legocrazy505 · 27-04-2016 05:20PM

Gonzo wrote: »

The delay of the NBP is not exactly surprising considering after 4 years there is still nothing to show but talk and a few reports. Whats really worrying me now is that this delay could also delay the rural blue line scheme. Lets hope Eir can complete as much of the first 100,000 homes as possible over the next 10 months. We really need to see widespread work starting within the next few weeks.

Honestly for me it's all or nothing. 100,000 homes is really poor compared to the actual number of homes that will be stuck without any decent broadband for years. By the time anything decent comes around rural Ireland will still be behind the times.

1gbps by 2020 or else no plan is honestly worth talking about. If 1gbps isn't demanded then sure scale down the speeds delivered but the network needs to be there.

Eir will probably only do the announced areas and then take it easy and sit on the ancient cooper network for years to come.

ED E · 27-04-2016 05:31PM

legocrazy505 wrote: »

Eir will probably only do the announced areas and then take it easy and sit on the ancient cooper network for years to come.

You make it sound like its a small task, the 100k premises is a massive job. There'll be no thumb twiddling involved.

Ron603 · 27-04-2016 05:43PM

There are several Open Eir vans driving around Killorglin nearly everyday. One of the vans has a roll of black cable attached to the back, the cable is rather thick and it seems to be 2 cables attached to each other side by side.

daraghwal · 27-04-2016 06:55PM

I see them at least 4 or 5 times everyday driving around Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford. I would only be around the town going into work, 35 min break and going home again so they are obviously busy

Gonzo · 27-04-2016 07:51PM

ED E wrote: »

You make it sound like its a small task, the 100k premises is a massive job. There'll be no thumb twiddling involved.

that's what worries me, it is a massive task to be completed within 10 months, can they really do it? They will need a very large workforce to get this done on time considering most areas aren't even started yet!

I get the feeling each exchange promised to be completed by next March will take several months to complete, some of the bigger ones could take 6 months or more and there are approximately 200 of these exchanges promised in this first phase by March 2017!

Machinehead · 27-04-2016 07:56PM

Had a guy from call to our place today from eir. He was checking poles in the area. He said the pole nearest us needed to be replaced due to a large crack running the entire length of the pole. He went on to say that his job was to highlight issues with poles for the ftth rollout. When asked re timescale, he said perhaps six months - definitely before the end of the year. We're 5km southwest of Tralee, 2.2km from the nearest cabinet & just on the tail end of eir's thin blue line in our area.

legocrazy505 · 27-04-2016 08:25PM

Machinehead wrote: »

Had a guy from call to our place today from eir. He was checking poles in the area. He said the pole nearest us needed to be replaced due to a large crack running the entire length of the pole. He went on to say that his job was to highlight issues with poles for the ftth rollout. When asked re timescale, he said perhaps six months - definitely before the end of the year. We're 5km southwest of Tralee, 2.2km from the nearest cabinet & just on the tail end of eir's thin blue line in our area.

Well we all know about timescales here. We've been told for two years faster broadband (efibre) was coming within 12 months.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 28-04-2016 12:02AM

Here is a Silicon Republic interview with Openeir's wholesale chief Carolan Lennon. According to her they will be pushing ahead with the original 100000 premises.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIUBi2mCJg8

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/2016/04/27/eir-ireland-national-broadband-plan-fibre

Gonzo · 28-04-2016 12:28AM

certainly that interview video is very positive. Im not surprised Eir is committed to rolling out to the 300,000 homes, its a license to print money when its finished. Most families on our road will sign up to Eir's FTTH immediately once launched and no more wireless dongles and ADSL connections to different providers.

guil · 28-04-2016 06:50AM

Gonzo wrote: »

certainly that interview video is very positive. Im not surprised Eir is committed to rolling out to the 300,000 homes, its a license to print money when its finished. Most families on our road will sign up to Eir's FTTH immediately once launched and no more wireless dongles and ADSL connections to different providers.

There's no guarantee anyone will sign up with eir, they could go with any other provider.

Varik · 28-04-2016 08:25AM

guil wrote: »

There's no guarantee anyone will sign up with eir, they could go with any other provider.

Who've to pay eir for the privilege.

guil · 28-04-2016 08:25AM

Varik wrote: »

Who've to pay eir for the privilege.

They pay openeir

Varik · 28-04-2016 08:46AM

guil wrote: »

They pay openeir

Who are a subsidiary of Eir

Gonzo · 28-04-2016 12:08PM

I dont think Vodaphone will be reselling Eirs FTTH, read that here somewhere a while back.

plodder · 28-04-2016 01:18PM

Gonzo wrote: »

I dont think Vodaphone will be reselling Eirs FTTH, read that here somewhere a while back.

Is that because they don't want the hassle of actually connecting customers to the network? I remember enquiring from Vodafone before about a POTS line and they weren't interested unless the line was already installed (which it wasn't).

ED E · 28-04-2016 01:24PM

plodder wrote: »

Is that because they don't want the hassle of actually connecting customers to the network? I remember enquiring from Vodafone before about a POTS line and they weren't interested unless the line was already installed (which it wasn't).

Nah, they'll do that now, even sky do (with TV).

The reason they wont offer Eir FTTH is they're in it 50:50 with the ESB. Their investment requires SIRO has good uptake and also their profit per sub is likely much higher with SIRO vs Eir as they're paying wholesale costs to themselves. With the current rollouts SIRO isnt rural so it'll overlap with the other operators.

plodder · 28-04-2016 01:27PM

ED E wrote: »

Nah, they'll do that now, even sky do (with TV).

The reason they wont offer Eir FTTH is they're in it 50:50 with the ESB. Their investment requires SIRO has good uptake and also their profit per sub is likely much higher with SIRO vs Eir as they're paying wholesale costs to themselves. With the current rollouts SIRO isnt rural so it'll overlap with the other operators.

Duh, of course

Are there other operators who will sell the FTTH product then?

ED E · 28-04-2016 01:31PM

If recent history is anything to go by Sky will, 24 months after its significantly deployed.

I believe Magnet may already resell eir FTTH, not sure as they have their own FTTB too. Gaelic/Pure/IFA who knows.

yfaykya · 29-04-2016 09:10AM

The road in the centre of the pic on the north side has ducting down the road. Does a lack of a blue line mean anything here? The road has already got FTTC.

daraghwal · 29-04-2016 10:30AM

yfaykya wrote: »

The road in the centre of the pic on the north side has ducting down the road. Does a lack of a blue line mean anything here? The road has already got FTTC.

If all of those homes have FTTC then they probably won't be getting FTTH. Maybe a few of the houses don't have it?

snowstreams · 29-04-2016 12:13PM

How do you know which exchanges are going to be included in the first 100,000 and which in the next 200,000?
I cant see that distinction on the open eir website.

Johnboy1951 · 29-04-2016 12:21PM

snowstreams wrote: »

How do you know which exchanges are going to be included in the first 100,000 and which in the next 200,000?
I cant see that distinction on the open eir website.

http://www.openeir.ie/news/First-rural-FTTH-locations-announced/
Scroll down ........ those listed are said to be completed by March 2017, so those are the 100k out of the 300k premises.

Johnboy1951 · 29-04-2016 12:22PM

snowstreams wrote: »

How do you know which exchanges are going to be included in the first 100,000 and which in the next 200,000?
I cant see that distinction on the open eir website.

http://www.openeir.ie/news/First-rural-FTTH-locations-announced/

First locations to be reached as part of rural 300,000 roll out. Work to be completed by March 2017.
Scroll down ........ those listed are said to be completed by March 2017, so those are the 100k out of the 300k premises.

Scroll down ........ those listed are said to be completed by March 2017, so those are the 100k out of the 300k premises.

snowstreams · 29-04-2016 08:41PM

Thanks Johnboy. I see Athenry is on the list.
Thats great to know that I can expect it within the year!
I did see a few KN vans around lately alright.

tazzzZ · 30-04-2016 12:13AM

Is there anyway to know what estates they are going to install it in first? Rathcoole is scheduled to get 370 and I'm just curious if my estate is likely to be upgraded.

MiskyBoyy · 30-04-2016 12:25AM

tazzzZ wrote: »

Is there anyway to know what estates they are going to install it in first? Rathcoole is scheduled to get 370 and I'm just curious if my estate is likely to be upgraded.

Maybe check your local exchange on here. A few of my local ones when hover over them, tell me they're supposed to get 1000mb/s by Autumn/Winter 2016 whilst some others say 2017-2020.

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

Gonzo · 30-04-2016 01:54AM

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Maybe check your local exchange on here. A few of my local ones when hover over them, tell me they're supposed to get 1000mb/s by Autumn/Winter 2016 whilst some others say 2017-2020.

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

wouldn't go by that website, it hasn't been updated much since June of 2015 except for the news page.

tazzzZ · 30-04-2016 02:11AM

yea there is literally no indication on any exchange in the area. nearly tempted to ring kn networks at this stage

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