Eir rural FTTH thread

pegasus1

rob808 wrote: »

It does seem ridiculous hopefully they do FTTN (G.Fast) for the houses with in 500 meters.

And what about the other houses just beyond them and so on...Each fibre run has a limit on premises it will provide for...
As someone mentioned somewhere on here or another thread, re bluelines, an engineer said to him see that pole, that's where it stops! exactly where the blue line stops..

Nyum Nyum

pegasus1 wrote: »

They must know what they are doing...perhaps running another fibre at a later date..think NBP, up the R582, with a small branch off to do your gaff and other 4...

Well my contract ends in October so they'll be losing me as a customer if nothing happens soon. Not paying €45 per month just for crappy 3Mb any longer, especially as some of the neighbours will have fibre by the looks of it.

Cheerful Spring

Can they not provide FTTH to houses near or close to the blue lines? I noticed the blue lines where i live and in other locations near by, are just following roads. I live in a housing estate about 200 metres away from the blue lines does that mean i can't get it? I thought Eir FTTH was connecting to the exchange and there be some chance? There is roads leading into my estate and my house can be reached by a road, but it not showing any blue line at the moment.

Gonzo

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

I'm in Macroom. There were vans yesterday in my lane putting cables up on poles along where the blue line goes.

My lane has a pub and ten houses in it. The blue line has covered the pub and the first 5 houses - of course, I am in the section not covered....

I am hoping that they cover the remaining 5 houses as it seems totally stupid to leave us out for the sake of a couple of hundred metres more cabling

There is no sign of any vans there today so I don't know if that's the rest of us out of luck now or what.

I guess they stopped exactly where the blue line stops?
The last 5 houses that are not covered, is there much of a distance between each house?

ItHurtsWhenIP

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

Well my contract ends in October so they'll be losing me as a customer if nothing happens soon. Not paying €45 per month just for crappy 3Mb any longer, especially as some of the neighbours will have fibre by the looks of it.

Have you LOS to the "potential" last house?

If so why not have a chat with that neighbour and see if they'd be interested in doing a deal with the unserved houses whereby ye all pay for them to have the 1Gbps package and then use something like Ubiquiti Nanostations to share out their link to the unserved houses.

There was a discussion on doing this here recently.

Nyum Nyum

Gonzo wrote: »

I guess they stopped exactly where the blue line stops?
The last 5 houses that are not covered, is there much of a distance between each house?

Here's a pic which may help - it's hard to see the blue line which comes in from the left but you should just make it out. The red X is where it ends. You can see the other 5 houses to the right aren't covered. It's approximately 300 metres from the red X to the end of the lane on the right (to the R582 sign)

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MMFITWGDV - I might have to try something like that, thanks.

Gonzo

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

Here's a pic which may help - it's hard to see the blue line which comes in from the left but you should just make it out. The red X is where it ends. You can see the other 5 houses to the right aren't covered. It's approximately 300 metres from the red X to the end of the lane on the right (to the R582 sign)

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MMFITWGDV - I might have to try something like that, thanks.

There is a situation very similar to that near where I live. The blue lines in our area of Dunshaughlin are covering about 64 houses, but as the houses cross over into the Ratoath exchange area, the blue lines stop but there are still houses continuing along the road, about 9 of them all close to each other.

Johnboy1951

Near where I live the road splits in a V shape and then the ends of the V are joined making a triangle.

Houses are to be fed via blue-line along both sides of the V and the blue lines turn onto the third side from both legs.

Unfortunately for about three or four houses they are in the middle of that third leg and the blue lines (from both sides) stop before reaching them.

So the situation outlined above is not unique.

frozenfrozen

same type of deal on my road too, the blue line stops 350ish metres from my house, and they're missing out on 44 homes, in a distance of about 1km, it would be mental to not extend that surely. Obviously they wouldn't all go for the highest package but even so that seems like about as good as it gets for density of ribbon development in Ireland

Johnboy1951

frozenfrozen wrote: »

same type of deal on my road too, the blue line stops 350ish metres from my house, and they're missing out on 44 homes, in a distance of about 1km, it would be mental to not extend that surely. Obviously they wouldn't all go for the highest package but even so that seems like about as good as it gets for density of ribbon development in Ireland

The existing fibre can service a finite number of premises.
I you are beyond that, it seems you must wait for NBP to reach you.

WexIan

Spoke to a tech support guy today and he informed me if the blue line has stopped before your house you are not getting FTTH at present. Have to wait for NBP. Hope the old dial up modem keeps working lol.

marno21

Still no blue lines at all in my exchange area, however, it's not covered by the NBP.

All neighbouring exchanges have been covered, any idea what the story there is?

pegasus1

marno21 wrote: »

Still no blue lines at all in my exchange area, however, it's not covered by the NBP.

All neighbouring exchanges have been covered, any idea what the story there is?

Your area is the likes of where the NBP will be rolled out..

ED E

marno21 wrote: »

Still no blue lines at all in my exchange area, however, it's not covered by the NBP.

All neighbouring exchanges have been covered, any idea what the story there is?

Is your exchange an exchange or an RSU?

SmallBalls

marno21 wrote: »

Still no blue lines at all in my exchange area, however, it's not covered by the NBP.

All neighbouring exchanges have been covered, any idea what the story there is?

Similar in my area, Rush. 210 houses to be done for winter 2016 but blue lines stop on the outskirts of the town.

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Gonzo

Basically Eir's rural FTTH scheme only covers areas that:

1 - have no FTTC/Virgin media/Siro
2 - outlying area of FTTC cabinets with very low speeds
3 - rural areas with a medium density of housing, mostly ribbon developments

There are some exceptions, there may be a few lucky people who have decent FTTC but along blue lines and there are also areas that are hard done by that should have been covered by this blue line scheme.
Very few if any one off houses are covered and no urban areas are covered unless they are at the very edge of town with limited FTTC speeds.

Areas with houses spread apart mostly likely have to wait for NBP.
Urban areas have decent FTTC or Virgin Media and are good till at least 2020 so no need to FTTH those areas for a while yet.

ED E

Spot on Gonzo, the exception being Sandyford and maybe one area of Cavan town.

damienirel

hmmm not so sure about that. This is what eir are claiming alright and I would agree with the logic in it. However take a look at where this has gone live already - i.e Kilkenny etc. seems to be still fairly urban areas stretching out to rural. Also take a look at the proposed exchanges for the 2016 schedule they are all urban/semiurban areas.
The bottom line is uptake will be higher in higher density areas - even if they already have 100mb fttc - they still need to compete with Siro and Virgin. Looks like they will stretch out to more rural areas but that will be on the back burner.

jd

ED E wrote: »

Spot on Gonzo, the exception being Sandyford and maybe one area of Cavan town.

Are you talking about the urban ftth footprint?
Certainly available in parts of Wexford Town, also Kilkenny, as well as Donegal and Letterkenny amongst other. I'm not sure how much of these urban areas are covered, however.

daraghwal

damienirel wrote: »

hmmm not so sure about that. This is what eir are claiming alright and I would agree with the logic in it. However take a look at where this has gone live already - i.e Kilkenny etc. seems to be still fairly urban areas stretching out to rural. Also take a look at the proposed exchanges for the 2016 schedule they are all urban/semiurban areas.
The bottom line is uptake will be higher in higher density areas - even if they already have 100mb fttc - they still need to compete with Siro and Virgin. Looks like they will stretch out to more rural areas but that will be on the back burner.

A lot of blue lines are coming out of towns/villages but this does not mean that everyone along these blue lines is getting FTTH. Some may already have FTTC and the blue line is just the route it has to take from the exchange to the rural customer

damienirel

daraghwal wrote: »

A lot of blue lines are coming out of towns/villages but this does not mean that everyone along these blue lines is getting FTTH. Some may already have FTTC and the blue line is just the route it has to take from the exchange to the rural customer

I get what you're saying in that the blue lines can be interpreted as routes but the reality is the blue lines do actually mean everyone along them will be eligible for ftth. Handy by product of using a fibre route from the exchange out to the stix wouldn't you say.

niallb

KN up the pole outside my house right now!
Looks like they're tidying up the junction box.
They installed a pair of new poles a few days ago,
so seems they're on target in this area anyway.

Ron603

I went on a stroll along the blue line today and there are no signs of any work being done. The tree branches have yet to be cut down. This is in the Aghadoe region in Killarney, Kery.

legocrazy505

Ron603 wrote: »

I went on a stroll along the blue line today and there are no signs of any work being done. The tree branches have yet to be cut down. This is in the Aghadoe region in Killarney, Kery.

I'm afraid only God above controls the broadband down in Kerry.

I doubt much of the country is going to see any FTTH work being done until next year honestly. The places that are being worked on now are the first rollout.

daraghwal

Ron603 wrote: »

I went on a stroll along the blue line today and there are no signs of any work being done. The tree branches have yet to be cut down. This is in the Aghadoe region in Killarney, Kery.

Is your area supposed to be part of the first 100,000 homes?

daraghwal

Nice to see the national broadband issue finally getting a bit of recognition

http://www.thejournal.ie/working-day-rural-broadband-2757497-May2016/

http://www.thejournal.ie/rural-broadband-donegal-problems-2757498-May2016/

legocrazy505

daraghwal wrote: »

Nice to see the national broadband issue finally getting a bit of recognition http://www.thejournal.ie/working-day-rural-broadband-2757497-May2016/

To be fair though, I've never experienced anything in my life faster than 7mbps (in Donabate but they have 240mbps there now though) so the 1mbps-2mbps we have here at home is just something you get used to. You just have to plan downloads in advance, warn everyone the internet probably won't load anything and then you leave the computer on for days.

Downloading something like GTAV is a whole operation at our house. I've given up updating games on the PS4 too, steam updates I have to leave until the night and then leave the computer on to go through them.

It's an inconvenient, terrible experience but I've never had anything better so I never really get fed up of long uploads for pictures.

daraghwal

legocrazy505 wrote: »

To be fair though, I've never experienced anything in my life faster than 7mbps (in Donabate but they have 240mbps there now though) so the 1mbps-2mbps we have here at home is just something you get used to. You just have to plan downloads in advance, warn everyone the internet probably won't load anything and then you leave the computer on for days.

Downloading something like GTAV is a whole operation at our house. I've given up updating games on the PS4 too, steam updates I have to leave until the night and then leave the computer on to go through them.

It's an inconvenient, terrible experience but I've never had anything better so I never really get fed up of long uploads for pictures.

I'm on roughly the same connection as you. Had to leave my laptop uploading my stuff to the cloud. It took 4 days with the computer on for all 24 hours.

pegasus1

Well the rural one starts by being misleading.. Saying...'with the NBP being deayed until '22...is just plain wrong...and misleading the public...like its stating that it's delayed/not starting till then...plonkers!

Ron603

daraghwal wrote: »

Is your area supposed to be part of the first 100,000 homes?

Kerry: 8,010 premises

Killorglin 970
Killarney 820
Ballyspillane 400

The blue line goes from the exchange in Killarney town, splits into 2. One goes to Fossa and than up towards Barleymount/Aghadoe Forest and the second line goes up Tralee road. So I presume that my area is part of the first 100,000 homes, I hope.

Ballyspillane is a housing estate located off the Killarney bypass/Cork road and it's getting its own blue line which then goes up to Tiernaboul.