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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    daraghwal wrote: »
    I doubt they would bring fibre all the way to that first house and then leave the other four that are left there. It wouldn't make sense but then again, you never know!
    Similarish situtation for me except that the blue line stops between two houses. Without knowing the logic behind how the lines were drawn, we just can't come to a conclusion. I would say they almost certainly used some sort of formula/system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Is there any company out there that we could speak to that would provide more information regarding the blue line and if that is 100% accurate, or if there is scope to go further?

    I would have no problem going around all of my neighbours and getting them to sign a declaration of interest in the service if they extended the blue line. Seeing as nobody around here has any internet other than mobile data, I would think the vast majority would be desperate to have it.

    Ive phoned Eir several times, but they cannot provide any information until the service is up and running. By that time it will almost certainly be too late to get them to do anything cost effective to extend the blue line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Is there any company out there that we could speak to that would provide more information regarding the blue line and if that is 100% accurate, or if there is scope to go further?

    I would have no problem going around all of my neighbours and getting them to sign a declaration of interest in the service if they extended the blue line. Seeing as nobody around here has any internet other than mobile data, I would think the vast majority would be desperate to have it.

    Ive phoned Eir several times, but they cannot provide any information until the service is up and running. By that time it will almost certainly be too late to get them to do anything cost effective to extend the blue line.

    Have your local TD contact OpenEir on your behalf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    ED E wrote: »
    Have your local TD contact OpenEir on your behalf.

    Are you serious? I have no way of doing it myself? I feel I would be way more motivated to fight my case than a TD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    Are you serious? I have no way of doing it myself? I feel I would be way more motivated to fight my case than a TD.
    Be realistic. Eir themselves probably only have firm plans for the first lot of the 100,000 houses.

    As to whether contacting your TD will work, it depends where you are. That at least is one advantage of being in Kerry.:pac::pac::pac:

    I actually think the companies are missing out on something here. You only have to read some of the excitement about Gonzo, to see what interest a company could ignite by daily postings of work schedules -which roads/ what is being done/ what the phases are/ when are they scheduled. This is the internet age after all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Be realistic. Eir themselves probably only have firm plans for the first lot of the 100,000 houses.

    As to whether contacting your TD will work, it depends where you are. That at least is one advantage of being in Kerry.:pac::pac::pac:

    I actually think the companies are missing out on something here. You only have to read some of the excitement about Gonzo, to see what interest a company could ignite by daily postings of work schedules -which roads/ what is being done/ what the phases are/ when are they scheduled. This is the internet age after all.

    Ah but we need to have internet to see the internet.... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Are you serious? I have no way of doing it myself? I feel I would be way more motivated to fight my case than a TD.

    You can try but OpenEir don't talk to end users unless its a safety issue.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Open Eir were fiddling with the telephone pole beside my house this morning, after KNN trimmed and cut branches last Friday. There is a black box near the top, does that box have anything to do with fibre? Im not sure anything has changed about the pole other than the cutting of the branches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    If I had to guess I'd say thats an 8(?) way passive optical splitter. But its possible its an old copper box too.

    Can you see what the text is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Open Eir were fiddling with the telephone pole beside my house this morning, after KNN trimmed and cut branches last Friday. There is a black box near the top, does that box have anything to do with fibre? Im not sure anything has changed about the pole other than the cutting of the branches.

    KNN had seen someone watching them, noting every movement...Me thinks its some sort of spy equip...Be careful Gonzo they are on to you...:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭niallb


    Open Eir were checking poles and hedges on the Kilcarty Rd yesterday.
    I believe they were also spotted down in Kiltale village...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Dr. Nick


    niallb wrote: »
    I believe they were also spotted down in Kiltale village...

    I can confirm this as fact ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    There was a lot of excitement in our area over the past 2 weeks but things haven't really progressed since last Friday evening. Basically they worked on the duct area between the edge of urban Dunshaughlin and the start of the ribbon developments laying fibre for about 1km to get ready for the rollout.

    They trimmed trees/branches/ checked poles ahead of where they were working in preparation and now the same exercise is being reported in other areas of Meath so I guess all this is prep work.

    The closing date for applying for the trainee scheme working with Eir ended today and work in that doesnt start till July so I guess it will be June/July when we will see them string fibre to the homes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    Gonzo wrote: »
    There was a lot of excitement in our area over the past 2 weeks but things haven't really progressed since last Friday evening. Basically they worked on the duct area between the edge of urban Dunshaughlin and the start of the ribbon developments laying fibre for about 1km to get ready for the rollout.

    They trimmed trees/branches/ checked poles ahead of where they were working in preparation and now the same exercise is being reported in other areas of Meath so I guess all this is prep work.

    The closing date for applying for the trainee scheme working with Eir ended today and work in that doesnt start till July so I guess it will be June/July when we will see them string fibre to the homes.
    There notting happening in summerhill all quite were pencil down for winter first FTTH live were as your autumn/winter there no activity on the Dunshaughlin to Ratoath road.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    rob808 wrote: »
    There notting happening in summerhill all quite were pencil down for winter first FTTH live were as your autumn/winter there no activity on the Dunshaughlin to Ratoath road.

    I think the only reason I saw work over past 2 weeks is that the area im on about everything is underground and it was constant manhole construction whereas all other areas along the blue lines is poles where they can simply string fibre from one pole to another and should be a quicker an easier distribution of fibre. This 1km section of underground ducting had to be completed in order to bridge fibre already in existence within Dunshauaghlin to the ribbon developments where I live. Im guessing we probably wont see the pole works for another few weeks, maybe even July before its started.

    Although KNN did trim/cut branches all the way along the blue lines here last week in areas where the branches would have goten in the way. I noticed this stopped where the blue line stops.

    Yesterday I also took a walk from my house down the Mooretown road and was amazed with the amount of new poles put up over the last few weeks. All these poles were very dark in colour with serial numbers carved into them and white boxs fixed to the top of each pole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭Tonio


    Lots of work being done on telecom poles this week by Eir staff on the FOTA to Midleton road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 damonmbk


    There has been loads of work in ballybunion in the last few weeks on the telecom poles. FTTC went live a few weeks back on an existing cabinet and work has started on two more cabinets. I would post images but I cant. The telecom poles have what looks like old copper cables coiled up hanging from the pole half way up.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    good to hear about upgrade work happening across the country!

    just noticed Eir's online fibre checker is down for 'essential updates'. Hopefully this is to do with the blue line scheme and will update phone numbers which will be connected within the next 12 months.

    The checker is back online and no change to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    May be related or not to FTTH but in my village a new cabinet was placed outside my home and all the entire main road was dug up. Seemed like a fairly big job, the blue line on the map is in line on where they were digging. FTTC is going live the 11th of May.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    I just put my number in the eir line checker and it says fibre will be available in the next year.I am not near any of the blue lines but the exchange is due for 1gb.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭brock92


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0426/784390-broadband/

    The Government's commitment to bring high speed broadband to every house in the country by the end of 2020 looks to be in doubt as a result of a delay in the procurement process.

    The Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources has confirmed that it will not now be in a position to award the contract to the winning bidder or bidders until 2017.

    That will be at least several months later than planned, although a spokesperson for the department said it does not believe that this will impact the anticipated construction time.

    The setback comes just two months after the General Election campaign, during which Labour and Fine Gael reaffirmed their commitment to delivering on the promise of bringing high speed broadband to every home and business in the country by 2020.

    The news will be met with disappointment among rural dwellers, many of whom are still without a basic reliable broadband service.

    The latest National Broadband Plan involves awarding contracts to commercial operators to build a network, with a minimum download speed of 30Mbps, to 757,000 premises occupied by 1.8 million people or 38% of the population which private companies are unlikely to ever serve because it would be too costly to do so.

    After formally launching the procurement process at the end of last year, the department, led by Minister for Communications Alex White, had pledged to conclude procurement by the middle of this year, with construction beginning soon afterwards.

    Minister White had consistently stated that by 2018 85% of premises would have access with 100% brought online by the end of 2020.

    The department said five responses to the pre-qualification phase of procurement were received by the 31 March deadline, and these are now being assessed to decide which should proceed to the next stage.

    It will involve an "Invitation to Participate in Dialogue" - but this is not now scheduled to take place until the summer.

    As a result the department said it does not now expect to be able to award a contract until next year.

    "Based on our extensive procurement planning, the granting of an earlier industry request for an extension to the PQQ submission deadline and the number of responses received, it is now envisaged that the Department will not be in a position to award a contract until 2017," it said in a statement to RTÉ News.

    "Building the network in the intervention area remains a priority and we are seeking the fastest possible deployment."

    The department said it will engage with the winning bidder or bidders on the optimum rollout strategy, and on the sequencing of the network deployment "to maximise efficiencies during network build".

    It said engagement with industry so far has indicated that rollout could be achieved within three to five years of the date of the contract award, meaning the process will be completed sometime between 2020 and 2022, up to two years later than hoped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Wrong thread buddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    ED E wrote: »
    Wrong thread buddy.

    Is there a thread about NBP and also will this have any effect on openeir's blue lines FTTH project


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    daraghwal wrote: »
    Is there a thread about NBP and also will this have any effect on openeir's blue lines FTTH project
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057332672

    And, Eir has longer to eat NBP's cake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭plodder


    It might be relevant to this thread as it gives Eir more breathing space to get the rural FTTH scheme up and running.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    I'm hoping thats the case. They stated they would do 300k houses in rural areas, NBP refused to remove them as they would not commit to it. However if they manage to get a number of those areas completed by then, then those houses will be removed from the NBP making it less attractive to other bidders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Hi could someone tell me how accurate the blue lines are?

    No, only openeir knows and they are not saying.

    Most believe they are indicative rather than exact.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    The delay of the NBP is not exactly surprising considering after 4 years there is still nothing to show but talk and a few reports. Whats really worrying me now is that this delay could also delay the rural blue line scheme. Lets hope Eir can complete as much of the first 100,000 homes as possible over the next 10 months. We really need to see widespread work starting within the next few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,084 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Gonzo wrote: »
    The delay of the NBP is not exactly surprising considering after 4 years there is still nothing to show but talk and a few reports. Whats really worrying me now is that this delay could also delay the rural blue line scheme. Lets hope Eir can complete as much of the first 100,000 homes as possible over the next 10 months. We really need to see widespread work starting within the next few weeks.

    I think it might push eir into a better position ..... they now have time to show they are serious without signing any binding documents.

    They also have plenty time to do the blue-line roll out, which they did not previously, if things had gone on the schedule announced.

    Smiles all around in the eir camp methinks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Lets hope Eir can complete as much of the first 100,000 homes as possible over the next 10 months. We really need to see widespread work starting within the next few weeks.
    What about the rest of the blue lines (200,000)Gonzo? just because you'll be laughing at the rest of us minions in a few months...:eek:


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