Eir rural FTTH thread

lawlerp

yabadabado wrote: »

Yeah I have the same message and we are part of the first 100K .No work being done around our area yet from what I can see.I live 600m from the cabinet.

No sign of work around our exchange yet either.

Gonzo

work was started here 1st April but nothings happened since April 11th. They completed the initial ducting section underground with manholes but haven't been back yet to start wiring up the poles to the houses.

mobil 222

Gonzo wrote: »

work was started here 1st April but nothings happened since April 11th. They completed the initial ducting section underground with manholes but haven't been back yet to start wiring up the poles to the houses.

Are you sure that this is not a core fibre job

pegasus1

Gonzo wrote: »

I'd say it will be September/October at the very earliest before anyone is connected. Building of the blue lines in each area could take months. Nowhere is planned for live switch on till Autumn/Winter 2016 as the first activation period.

Gonzo look up knocktopher in kilkenny..they are getting FTTH spring summer this year...and no its not FTTC..

tsue921i8wljb3

pegasus1 wrote: »

Gonzo look up knocktopher in kilkenny..they are getting FTTH spring summer this year...and no its not FTTC..

I think you may be mistaken. The little green dot is on the exchange KTR1_E01 indicating that it is FTTC being completed. The tooltip also makes no mention of FTTH just stating:

"Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is Spring/ Summer 2016"

Gonzo

pegasus1 wrote: »

Gonzo look up knocktopher in kilkenny..they are getting FTTH spring summer this year...and no its not FTTC..

I reckon that is FTTC as there is the little green dot right beside it. They probably need this activated first before they will work on the FTTH rollout in that area.

Gonzo

mobil 222 wrote: »

Are you sure that this is not a core fibre job

fairly certain! there would be no reason to run core fibre 1km to 1 house and stop. This section of road is all underground ducting and not a single pole along the way so this was needed in order to bring the fibre from the town to the poles where the houses start. Plenty of core fibre already around the town from multiple directions. Hopefully work will resume on this very shortly.

ED E

What you're seeing is the expected division of labour:

1. Civils: Digging and ducting, erecting poles
2. Build: Running the glass, installing splitters
3. Install: Pole/Splitter to house

Group 1 were rushing to cut hedges, now they're digging roads across the country. 2 and 3 will follow but they don't have to follow in the same order as 1 so no point making predictions based on that.

Gonzo

the KNN lads who did the 1km of ducting where also the same guys who where up checking poles and cutting branches down my road and past my house.

long_b

Curragh Camp scheduled for Winter 2016. Yuss!!

daraghwal

Bit off topic but just curious, when the whole country is covered by FTTH (eventually) and all the copper degrades and phones stop working will landline phones be converted to VoIP and used over the fibre as well or what will happen?

jd

daraghwal wrote:

Bit off topic but just curious, when the whole country is done with FTTH (eventually) and all the copper degrades and phones stop working will landline phones be converted to VoIP and used over the fibre as well or what will happen?

This is worth reading
http://www.comreg.ie/publications/transition_from_eir_s_copper_network.583.105043.p.html

plodder

daraghwal wrote: »

Bit off topic but just curious, when the whole country is covered by FTTH (eventually) and all the copper degrades and phones stop working will landline phones be converted to VoIP and used over the fibre as well or what will happen?

We have a "landline" and I can't remember the last time anyone in the house used it, other than the alarm system. So, I think eventually, if anyone wants a fixed location phone, then it will run over Voip and fibre, but most households won't have one. It's only a matter of time before the old phone network is just switched off and abandoned imo.

Johnboy1951

plodder wrote: »

We have a "landline" and I can't remember the last time anyone in the house used it, other than the alarm system. So, I think eventually, if anyone wants a fixed location phone, then it will run over Voip and fibre, but most households won't have one. It's only a matter of time before the old phone network is just switched off and abandoned imo.

For those of us who cannot afford, or object to, the high price for calls on a mobile network, VOIP is king.
A mobile phone can be used to make and receive VOIP calls as well as calls using the mobile operator.
You don't need a fixed or 'desktop' phone.

pegasus1

Gonzo wrote: »

I reckon that is FTTC as there is the little green dot right beside it. They probably need this activated first before they will work on the FTTH rollout in that area.

400 houses will have FTTH by march '17 and work is being completed by summer Openeir have been all over the place..
http://www.openeir.ie/news/First-rural-FTTH-locations-announced/

Gonzo

pegasus1 wrote: »

400 houses will have FTTH by march '17 and work is being completed by summer Openeir have been all over the place..
http://www.openeir.ie/news/First-rural-FTTH-locations-announced/

that is true but the people in that town should have FTTC first before the FTTH is live, perhaps a couple of months in the difference.

pegasus1

Gonzo wrote: »

that is true but the people in that town should have FTTC first before the FTTH is live, perhaps a couple of months in the difference.

It was never listed as getting FTTC before the the 100,000...just blue lines...
I shall take a peek today and see if any fibre tails hanging...

pegasus1

Its not a town but a village with ribbon development...

daraghwal

Gonzo wrote: »

that is true but the people in that town should have FTTC first before the FTTH is live, perhaps a couple of months in the difference.

8/45 Exchanges in Wexford that are on the FTTH list are not getting FTTC. They are ribbon developments with no central population and so there is no need for FTTC. 2 of these 8 exchanges are to be done by "Winter 2016". The other 8, 2017-2020. Overall in Wexford 16/45 exchanges are to be done by "Winter 2016"

tsue921i8wljb3

daraghwal wrote: »

8/45 Exchanges in Wexford that are on the FTTH list are not getting FTTC. They are ribbon developments with no central population and so there is no need for FTTC. 2 of these 8 exchanges are to be done by "Winter 2016". The other 8, 2017-2020. Overall in Wexford 16/45 exchanges are to be done by "Winter 2016"

I'm not doubting you but can you say how you know this to be the case? I have not seen any confirmation that exchange areas were transitioning direct to FTTH although it makes sense that it would happen.

daraghwal

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

I'm not doubting you but can you say how you know this to be the case? I have not seen any confirmation that exchange areas were transitioning direct to FTTH although it makes sense that it would happen.

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/wexford/ On this it has a list for FTTC and FTTH. The exchanges that are going directly to FTTH are small villages that do not have any need for FTTC as there is a lack of homes surrounding the cabinets. This information is mirrored on the where and when map when you hover over the villages. Also, if you want to know of other counties, you can look for them here: https://www.eir.ie/pressroom/press_releases/ I think any county that is getting FTTH on its own somewhere has an update on 04 June 2015 saying "eircom Expands Fibre Broadband Investment in [County]

EDIT: The http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/wexford/ website has the correct list of exchanges in each list but has not been updated in a long time in terms of what cabinets are live, in build or at the planning stage.

tsue921i8wljb3

daraghwal wrote: »

EDIT: The http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/wexford/ website has the correct list of exchanges in each list but has not been updated in a long time in terms of what cabinets are live, in build or at the planning stage.

Thanks. It is the same for my own county. Completely out of date.

daraghwal

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Thanks. It is the same for my own county. Completely out of date.

Yeah. The map is the only thing to go by for dates

Nyum Nyum

daraghwal wrote: »

Probably. It seems strange though some roads the blue line only goes for 2km with very few houses along it and then loads a little more up the road. Then at the other side of my exchange it goes for well over 8km to another village being done by the same exchange. I doubt it's limited by the cable.

I'm in Macroom. There were vans yesterday in my lane putting cables up on poles along where the blue line goes.

My lane has a pub and ten houses in it. The blue line has covered the pub and the first 5 houses - of course, I am in the section not covered....

I am hoping that they cover the remaining 5 houses as it seems totally stupid to leave us out for the sake of a couple of hundred metres more cabling

There is no sign of any vans there today so I don't know if that's the rest of us out of luck now or what.

pegasus1

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

There is no sign of any vans there today so I don't know if that's the rest of us out of luck now or what.

That's what donuts were invented for...;)
Looks like you will have to wait till the next phase...ie. NBP..

They have to stop somewhere like

Nyum Nyum

pegasus1 wrote: »

They have to stop somewhere like

Why do half a lane though? It's ridiculous.

pegasus1

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

Why do half a lane though? It's ridiculous.

is that the blue line, ie. the only one, with the big factory at the end of it...west of macroom

rob808

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

Why do half a lane though? It's ridiculous.

It does seem ridiculous hopefully they do FTTN (G.Fast) for the houses with in 500 meters.

Nyum Nyum

pegasus1 wrote: »

is that the blue line, ie. the only one, with the big factory at the end of it...west of macroom

Possibly. The blue line seems to turn back on itself at one point to cover one house and stop - totally ignoring the lorry test centre and other businesses there. It's baffling.

pegasus1

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

Possibly. The blue line seems to turn back on itself at one point to cover one house and stop - totally ignoring the lorry test centre and other businesses there. It's baffling.

They must know what they are doing...perhaps running another fibre at a later date..think NBP, up the R582, with a small branch off to do your gaff and other 4...